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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 00:05:39 1997
From: Denise Zielinski <dzielins@dupagels.lib.il.us>
ubject: Re: Teacher In-Service
We have teacher giveaways, almost anything. We also include anything that
we have weeded that we think they might be interested in and that seems to
pull them in.
Denise Zielinski
Head, Young People's Services
Helen M. Plum Memorial Library
110 W. Maple Street
Lombard, Illinois 60148
(630) 627-0316
FAX: (630) 627-0336
E-mail: dzielins@dupagels.lib.il.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 00:05:39 1997
From: Merilyn Thomasson <mthomass@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us>
Subject: CD-ROMS: access, process and duress
My library started using CD-ROM's on Public-access PC's about a year
ago. We've had some interesting, shall we say, experiences with certain
CD-ROM packages, particularly when they are loaded with in conjunction with
other releases from disparate manufacturers in CD-ROM changers holding 5 or
6 CD's in total. I've noticed that:
CD-ROM changers (specifically those made by Pioneer and Panasonic)
and WIN95 explorer do NOT play together well. Every time one is
likely to start the
explorer program the CD is likely to hold a "roll call" and check in
each of
the CD's in its bailiwick in succession. This forces the user to
wait until
each CD has been accessed before continuing on in an application.
CD-ROM manufactures seem to have agreed to standardize only on the
basic shape of the CD-ROM itself - the rest of the package,
including installation, the amount of hard disk space required
to run the program, and how required utilities are
installed, is totally up for grabs. If you install one CD that
requires the QuickTime movie player, for instance, and then you install an
older CD release that ALSO installs the same utility, you are likely
to end up
ONLY with the last-installed version of that utility. So, when you
fire up
the newer CD after installation, it tries to use the older utility
to play a hot-rodded movie with new bells and whistles, and it
generally locks up the machine.
CD-ROMs mounted on networks in what we like to call "jukeboxes",
which may
hold as many as 14 CD-ROM drives at once, are frequently viewed as the
panacea to the aforementioned problems. I just can't seem to find a
real-world
example anywhere that might work on my peer-to-peer Microsoft-based
(95 & NT) network.
Many databases presently available only on CD-ROM are quickly moving
to access through the Internet. This makes the whole CD-ROM conundrum
rather moot and the allows access to databases which are updated more
frequently anyway. This tempts one to simply want to wait until your
favorite
CD resource comes online and then simply purchase access through the
'Net.
Easy.
Can folks out there share with me and the list what they are doing
in real front-line places about this sort of problem? Are CD jukeboxes more
than neat-looking
toys? Do they put up with real-world patron use and abuse?
Are stand-alone CD-ROM-changer-based PC's worth the almost constant
attention they seem to require?
Does anyone have any thoughts on whether we should take the CD-ROM
LAN jukebox plunge, or whether we should continue to live with CD-ROM
changer challenges, or just wait until things come online?
ANY feedback, again, particularly from real-world experiences, would
be most welcome.
Brett Charbeneau, Systems Administrator Tel: 757-259-7750
Williamsburg Regional Library FAX: 757-259-7798
7770 Croaker Road brett@wrl.org
Williamsburg, VA 23188-7003 http://www.wrl.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 00:05:41 1997
From: mchelton@cadvantage.com (marykchelton)
ubject: Library Card Logos, Etc.
I once blew the Va. Beach Public Library's card up, pasted it on foamboard
and made a sandwich board to wear for a presentation. I named myself "LL
CARD" which stood for the "living library card."
Oh, the things one does...
Mary K.
Mary K. Chelton
Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Management
Emporia State University
1200 Commercial
Emporia, KS 66801
phone: (316) 341-5071 work
e-mail: cheltonm@esumail.emporia.edu (work)
mchelton@cadvantage.com (home)
fax: (316) 342-6391
"Outside of a dog, a book is man's best friend...
inside of a dog, it's too dark to read" Groucho Marx
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 00:05:39 1997
From: Adelaide Rowe <arowe@egvpl.org>
Subject: Fairy Tales
We do not have our 398's cataloged by country, and probably
won't be doing that any time this century (we have 24 shelves of them!). I
was thinking about labelling the books according to geographical location.
Highsmith has colored
labels in 18 colors, and I was thinking about grouping the countries for
the most part into meaningful units. I already have Native American, and
African-American, and multi-cultural stickers on the appropriate ones. Has
anybody done anything similar? Any advice would be well-received. Thank you.
I know it won't be a perfect solution, but it would impose some order,
and help us with school assignments.
Adelaide Rowe
arowe@egvpl.org
Head of Youth Services
Elk Grove Village Public Library
Elk Grove Village, IL
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:23:30 1997
From: Fred Muller Newton <fmuller@saturn.planet.net>
Subject: Re: Fairy Tales
I have modified all my 398 cataloging. I add the country code without the
9. For example, folklore in US is 398.273. This has been a big help to
make sense out of my 7 shelves of folklore
Frederick Muller, Halsted Middle School Library
Librarian 59 Halsted Street voice (973) 383-7440x228
fmuller@planet.net Newton, NJ 07860 FAX (973) 383-7432
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:23:31 1997
From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
Subject: YA Magazines
Hi all!
I am in the process of updating our YA magazine subscriptions and could use
some quick advice. I am thinking of subscribing to either Blue Jeans or New
Moon magazine. Does anybody currently get these, have an opinion either way
or any pearls of widsom they can share? Also has anyone heard or seen
anything about Jump, a new YA magazine geared to girls who like sports?
Thanks in advance!
Ilene Lefkowitz
YA Librarian
Englewood Public Library
31 Engle Street
Englewood, NJ 07631
ILefkowitz@aol.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:23:31 1997
From: Charlotte Lesser <clesser@keene.edu>
Subject: First time cardholders
Greetings!
We are planning to start giving children who get their first library card
some kind of "goodie bag"/handout starting during Children's Book
Week.
We have ordered refrigerator magnets (shaped like a book with lib. phone
and hours) and thought about also giving out a bookmark and our Youth
Department brochure, plus a current flyer of children's programs.
Do other libraries do this? My questions are these:
1) What do you put in your packet?
2) Do you make different ones for different age levels (children can get
cards at any age in our library)
3) Who pays for the materials?
Thanks in advance! Please reply to me and I'll summarize for the list.
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Charlotte Lesser Phone (603) 352-0157
Head of Youth & Community Services Fax (603) 352-1101
Keene Public Library email clesser@keene.edu
60 Winter St.
Keene NH 03431
Check out the Youth Dept. Home page on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/library/jyouth.htm
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:23:31 1997
From: Jim Horan <jhoran@monroe.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Info on Ella Jenkins
Has anyone had Ella Jenkins in concert at their library? We're
having her in a joint schools-and-public library program and want to know
what grades to invite.
I'm assuming grades k-3 are appropriate, but would love to hear
comments from any Pubyakkers who have seen her.
Thanks,
Jim Horan
Monroe County Library System
jhoran@monroe.lib.mi.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:23:32 1997
From: "ANNA ZANARINI" <AZANARINI@slco.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Book Babies
Hi All!
I received such a great response from my last posting, I decided to
do it again! This time I am wondering if anyone has a handout that
is given to parents/caregivers when they register for infant
storytimes that lists rules, expected behaviors, etc. I'm doing my
first Book Babies session starting in October and have handouts with
the songs, fingerplays, stories, etc. that I'll be doing each week,
but would like to give participants something when they register
which would provide them with a feel for the program. If anyone has
anything they could send me, either through e-mail or through snail
mail, I'd very much appreciate it. I will create my own, but I'd
like to get ideas from those with experience. Thank you once again
for all your help!
Anna Zanarini
Salt Lake County Library System
Sandy Library
10100 S. Petunia Way
Sandy, UT 84092
(801) 944-7601
azanarini@slco.lib.ut.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:24:39 1997
From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
Subject: [Fwd: Re: [PUBLIB:4865] Group visits to the library]
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 1997 15:53:58 -0700
From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
Organization: Oak Lawn Public Library/Director
CC: Multiple recipients of list <publib@sunsite.berkeley.EDU>
Subject: Re: [PUBLIB:4865] Group visits to the library
Lynn Daugherty wrote:
>
> We need your advice. We have a small parochial school two blocks away.
> They have almost no library and bring their classes to the public library
> each week during the school year. These visits are scheduled and we have
> generally enjoyed serving them. HOWEVER, the third and fourth grade classes
> last year began coming together (about 28 children). The teachers and aides
> were not attentive and the group was uncontrolled and disruptive. We asked
> each class to again come separately and met with resistance and anger until
> we spoke with the principal who insured that the groups came separately. We
> then, of course, heard the teachers badmouthing our children's librarian
> whom they blamed for the problem and for "going to" the
principal.
>
> This year the same teachers have told us, we are a public library &
cannot
> deny them service, and they ARE coming together (35 children) and gave us a
> choice of two times, either of which would be convenient for them. They are
> angry, aggressive and unwilling to listen to our point of view.
>
> Obviously, this is not fair to the children, most of whom come to the desk
> for guidance in finding materials, nor to the staff, nor to other patrons
in
> the library who also need service. I plan to talk to the principal to see
> if we can find a non-confrontational way of resolving the conflict. But I
> would also like to know how other libraries handle similar situations. Do
> you have a special policy for group behavior problems? Obviously, our
> policy of denying library access to an individual causing a problem will
not
> work here. A teacher cannot leave one student at school and bring the rest.
> And we do not feel the staff should be responsible for disciplining
> individual children when the teachers and aides are in the building.
>
> How do you handle these situations? Any advice would help.
> Lynn Daugherty, Director....................ledaugh@netnitco.net
> Jasper County Public Library, 208 W. Susan, Rensselaer, IN 47978
> Phone: 219-866-5881; FAX: 219-866-7378
> http://www.jasperco.lib.in.us
Lynn,
You are correct in supporting your Children's Librarian in this
unfortunate situation where teachers in a k-12 school which provides
no library service at all are demanding that the public library
compromise its own service mission in order to address the particular
curriculum needs of one or two classes from one school in a community
which undoubtedly has many k-12 schools and thousands of persons of
all ages to serve.
While every one of those youngsters may be a patron and as such is
entitled to service, the public library is not a servant of the school
itself. Cooperation, yes. Subserviance, no. What you do for one school
-- particularly a privately funded school which is competing with other
parochial schools and the public schools for enrollment -- could set a
precedent which would effectively force you to undertake the same rule
bending for every school in your service area. If you didn't, the
services given to one parochial school could be construed as using tax
dollars to make one school more desirable than another. The ground rules
for classes using your facility as a part of the regular school day
should be applied consistently and firmly maintained.
If you can't get cooperation from the principal, you should confer
with your board and then approach the board or clergy group governing
the school. I have never had to go straight to the school boards myself,
but I have often gone to the Superintendent level in order to get
results.
James B. Casey -- My views as a public library director.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:24:50 1997
From: gwiseman <gwiseman@lib.ci.waco.tx.us>
Subject: school/public libraries
Hi
I've been reading with great interest the recent debate over school
libraries and whether they should be open and available on
evenings/weekends to students/community residents. I have a friend who is
currently establishing a local library for (mostly) schoolage children in
a housing project. It grieves her very much that the school (within easy
walking distance) has a library that is unavailable so much of the time.
She is looking for information on real-world library situations where the
school library is open some time whether summer or during the schoolyear.
If this happens in your community who runs the library, where do the
funds come from, what are the problems, etc? Please e-mail me and I'll
try to post a summary of responses to the list.
Gillian Wiseman (gwiseman@lib.ci.waco.tx.us)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:25:10 1997
From: Tiffany Schwartz <schwartz@noblenet.org>
Subject: YA software suggestions needed
I'm planning to set up two pc's entirely for young adults to use and need
some suggestions for software that this age group really enjoys / needs.
Besides Myst, Oregon Trail II, and a good encyclopedia...what might you
suggest for ages 10-16? Please respond to me at schwartz@noblenet.org
with both educational or recreational software suggestions.
Of course...I'll post a list
Thanks
Tiffany
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Tiffany Schwartz | Lucius Beebe Memorial Library
Young Adults' Librarian | Wakefield, Massachusetts
schwartz@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange*
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:25:13 1997
From: Carolyn Caywood <carolyn@infi.net>
Subject: Re: Library Card Logos, Etc.
>
> I once blew the Va. Beach Public Library's card up, pasted it on foamboard
> and made a sandwich board to wear for a presentation. I named myself
"LL
> CARD" which stood for the "living library card."
>
> Oh, the things one does...
>
> Mary K.
>
What Mary K. doesn't know is that when we changed Library card styles
to add bar code, the big deal was getting new blow ups of "L.L.Card"
and imagine our surprise when we found that even at that size the card
still scans. Great for tour demos.
Carolyn Caywood % Save the time of the Reader %
carolyn@infi.net % --Ranganathan's 4th Law %
http://www6.pilot.infi.net/~carolyn/ FAX:757-464-6741
936 Independence Blvd. Virginia Beach, VA 23455 757-460-7519
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:25:57 1997
From: cchesh@tc3net.com (Cathy Chesher)
Subject: RE: CD-ROMS: access, process and duress
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Brett,
I'd be interested in hearing what kind of responses you get on your =
CD-ROM question. Our children's dept. recently received a grant to =
purchase 4 CD-ROM workstations for educational and children's reference =
software. We won't be networking (for various reasons), but I do want =
to make available more than one program at a time. I was thinking of =
purchasing CD changers for this and possibly daisy-chaining them; now =
I'm not so sure. I thought about jukeboxes too, but one area library had =
a lot of problems with theirs. They suggested purchasing a PC with a =
very large hard drive and storing programs on that. I'm not even very =
sure what a jukebox is, to tell you the truth. We're a very small =
library, so don't have any technical staff to help solve these =
complicated problems and answer my many questions. One problem I forsee =
with changers is not being able to "lock" them so sticky fingers can't
=
take our disks. Do you have this problem? Do you have a solution?
Thanks.
Cathy Chesher
Adrian Public Library
Adrian, Michigan
cchesh@tc3net.com
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From: Brett Charbeneau[SMTP:brett@mail.wrl.org]
Sent: Monday, August 25, 1997 12:02 PM
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: CD-ROMS: access, process and duress
My library started using CD-ROM's on Public-access PC's about a =
year
ago. We've had some interesting, shall we say, experiences with certain
CD-ROM packages, particularly when they are loaded with in conjunction =
with
other releases from disparate manufacturers in CD-ROM changers holding 5 =
or 6 CD's in total. <snip>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:29:56 1997
From: DownsReid@aol.com
Subject: 'Peace' Titles for Teens
Hello! I'm currrently detailed into the position of Young Adult Service
Coordinator for Minneapolis Public Library--it's a real education! You've
come through for me on a recent stumper, so I'm back with my proverbial hat
in hand.
I'm putting together a short young adult bookmark bibliography to support a
state-wide anti-violence campaign which is using as its slogan: "You're the
one who can make the peace."
Any ideas of recent (last decade) books for teens which proffer peaceful
resolutions? I'm looking for fiction titles as well as nonfiction, even
though they seem harder to come by.
Thanks for your help!
Pat Downs-Reid
downsreid@aol.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:30:04 1997
From: Vanston <jvanston@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Short Stories for reluctant YAs
Greetings.
I have a request from a teacher that teachers remedial reading to 12th grade
students. She's looking for recommendations for contemporary short stories
she can use with her students in the classroom.
Thanks in advance and I'll post a summary as needed.
Ann
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Ann D. Travers
Head of Children's Services
Beardsley & Memorial Library
40 Munro Place
Winsted, CT 06098
(860) 379-6043 Fax: (860) 379-3621
E-Mail: atravers@ct2.nai.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:30:40 1997
From: Dzierzbicki <dzierzbi@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: BOOK TRIAL--banned book week prog
I'm planning a book trial with the 1st through 4th graders for sept. 20.
If you have done one with this age group could you send suggestions on
what books worked best. Also, any suggestions on set-up and procedure
would be useful. (I am receiving material from ALA as well.)
TIA.
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"But wherever they go , and whatever happens to them on the way, in that
enchanted place on the top of the Forest, a little boy and his bear
will always be playing." A.A. Milne
Monica A. Dzierzbicki dzierzbi@sublibsy.sls.lib.il.us
Children's Librarian (708)448-1530
Palos Park Library
Palos Park, Il
(formerly from Grande Prairie Lib., IL)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:30:43 1997
From: "Carol Chamberlain" <c.chamberlain@nunet.neu.edu>
ubject: Outsourcing
I would like to offer a clarification concerning the recent posting from
Charles Willett. In his message he includes quotes from a letter I wrote. I
include here a copy of the letter for the listserv readers. The letter was
written last June 6 with the purpose of informing other ALA divisions and
members of ALA Council of ALCTS' roles regarding outsourcing. From a reading
of the full letter, I hope that readers can gain a complete and balanced
perspective.
Carol Chamberlain
Past-President, ALCTS
June 6, 1997
To ALA Division Presidents:
ALCTS, the Association for Library Collections & Technical Services, is the
ALA division most closely involved with outsourcing issues and vendor
relations. ALCTS provides leadership to ALA and the library community in
these and other areas including the acquisition, selection, description,
organization, and preservation of information resources. My purpose in
writing to you is to both clarify and to contribute to a greater
understanding of ALCTS roles regarding outsourcing and recent developments.
Through programs, discussion forums and publications, ALCTS fulfills an
important educational role. As the recent developments in Hawaii became
known, ALCTS moved quickly to initiate two very successful forums on
outsourcing at the ALA Midwinter conference. These latest efforts build on
our other initiatives. In 1996 the Commercial Technical Services Committee
held a conference program on current outsourcing projects, and the
Acquisitions Section conducted a highly successful preconference on
outsourcing technical services functions. The other ALCTS sections
(Collection Management and Development, Cataloging and Classification,
Serials, and Preservation and Reformatting) develop discussion groups,
conference programs and regional institutes which continue to address
contract services. ALCTS has several publications on outsourcing, including
Outsourcing Library Technical Services Operations, published in 1997.
Another important role for ALCTS is to develop and promote constructive
relationships among librarians, vendors, publishers and other producers of
information resources. The Publisher/Vendor Library Relations Committee
plays this role, serving as the review and advisory committee. Their work is
highly regarded in the association, particularly for the effective resolution
of complaints, for the development of fair and balanced guidelines, and for
the mutual respect they engender in the conduct of their work.
Outsourcing and other contract services for libraries are and have been an
integral part of librarianship for many years. Cooperative cataloging,
retrospective conversion, approval plans, binding and preservation are
leading examples. Today new models of contract services can be as
successful, with effective planning and implementation strategies, and with
open channels of communication among all participants. ALCTS is committed to
meeting the needs of its members, including those needs related to the
outsourcing of collections and technical services. Our members are
librarians, vendors, publishers and other individuals who are not only
working in libraries, but also are working in the publishing and supplier
communities. We recognize and celebrate this diversity of membership.
Through ALCTS, ALA achieves its goal of assisting librarians in providing
services responsive to the changing needs of society.
Sincerely,
Carol Chamberlain
ALCTS President
cc: ALCTS Board of Directors
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Aug 26 23:30:31 1997
From: Librarian <library@ksc8.th.com>
Subject: Stumper: Richard Bach
Hi Folks,
This is not really a stumper, because I know the name of the book, but
have an unusual query.
A client is reading Richard Bach's *There's no such place as far away* in
Hebrew. She is having trouble with the translation and had asked if we
had the English version so she could check something. We don't stock it.
If anyone does have the English version, would they mind checking to see
the name of the girl the narrator is going to visit, or just where the
narrator is going. Our young client would be most grateful.
Please reply direct to me if you can help. Many thanks
Yvonne Davidson
Librarian
New International School of Thailand
Bangkok
library@ksc8.th.com
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