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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:14:12 1997
From: WDSPC02@FRONT1.cpl.org
Subject: Magazines for preteen/teen girls


Alternatives to the usual;
Blue Jean
Empowered (Young Females)
New Moon

Amy Canadee, YA/Reference
Wadsworth PL, OH


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:14:13 1997
From: rgwd@sprynet.com
Subject: Unattended Children


I agree with the need for unattended children policies in this day and
age. Thank you to all of the practicing, on the job librarians who are
concerned and have responded to this issue.
Robin Davis
Youth Servicves Librarian
Hurst Public Library
Hurst, TX

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:14:14 1997
From: Jim Maroon <jmaroon1@mail.airmail.net>
ubject: Re: HUSTLER CHALLENGE JACKPOT GROWS TO $250!


At 09:25 AM 9/10/97 -0700, BURLINGTON LIBRARY wrote:
> I have not seen this post before, but I find the idea behind the
>premise interesting. I think the challenge is also flawed. The main reason

I agree. I find it interesting he has yet to take up my suggestion for an
alternative challenge, offering 5 years of Playboy. Apparently he's only
interested if he gets to choose the publication, which shows how weak his
position is.

Further, it isn't clear what he's trying to accomplish. My assumption is
he's trying to sell his product. Seems to me angering and irritating his
target audience by insulting its professional institutions and standards is
hardly the most effective way to go about that.

--Jim Maroon jmaroon1@airmail.net
The Storytelling Home Page: http://members.aol.com/storypage

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:14:18 1997
From: Ruth Lufkin <lufkin@gti.net>
Subject: Dewey Decimal Game?



Hello friends,

I would like to do some retraining with the teen pages who shelve in our
Children's Room, and wonder if any of you know of a computerized game for
teaching/learning the Dewey Decimal system? We used to have one back when
we had an Apple computer, but now have IBM clones in place.

Please reply directly to me. I will post a compiled response to the
list, if there are some sugestions.

Many thanks,

Ruth Lufkin
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( Ruth Lufkin ) [lufkin@gti.net]
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:14:41 1997
From: Marijo Kist <mkist@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us>
Subject: Re: The Jolly Postman



I debated on Jolly Postman a long time when it first came out. Our
solution was to make about 10 copies of each insert before it went out the
first time. Then I afixxed a note on the back near the barcode,
instructing check in staff to examine each envelope for items. Whenever
they were missing I replaced them with the photocopy.

The copies of course were dull and boring, but the content was there. And
I believe a book held under glass, in a back room or away from the kids is
useless, and I will not buy things for little kids that can not be checked
out and loved.

I hope this is not offensive, but it is one of my personal touch points,
paying money for materials that are look don't touch.

Marijo Kist mkist@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us
Acacia Branch Library
(602) 262-6224




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:14:49 1997
From: karen wendt <kmwendt@scls.lib.wi.us>
ubject: bad internet sites


The Assistant Director here is going to be doing at least one, and perhaps
several, classes for patrons on using Internet Resources. It is a very
basic, beginning level class. She is interested in finding a "bad" web site
as a warning example. Something that when pulled up, people look at, and
notice obviously incorrect information. If anyone can help, we appreciate
it. The class is Sept. 24. Sorry for the short notice. Do not post directly
to PUBYAC. Please send examples to:CAROL at carola@scls.lib.wi.us
TIA
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kmwendt@scls.lib.wi.us
Karen M. Wendt, Children's and Young Adult Coordinator
Monona Public Library
1000 Nichols Road, Monona WI 53716
608-222-6127
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:15:20 1997
From: "Christolon, Blair B" <bbc6251a@co.prince-william.va.us>
Subject: RE: David Burt - Hustler Challenge


David Burt is President and Founder of Filtering Facts.
http://www.filteringfacts.org

All comments expressed here are my own and may not reflect the policies
of Prince William Public Library System

Blair B. Christolon
Librarian-Collection Specialist J, YA &AV
Prince William Public Library System
13083 Chinn Park Drive
Prince William, VA 22192-5073
703-792-6251
FAX 703-792-4875
bbc6251a@co.prince-william.va.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:15:38 1997
From: Candy Bertelson <candyb@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Re: unattended children


On Wed, 10 Sep 1997, Goodrich, Margaret - Canton wrote:

> I don't understand why people want to remain librarians when the
> roles of parole officer, policeman and political correctness officer are
> increasingly forced upon them.
>
I just have to jump in here after reading several of these responses
basically singing the praises of growing up in the 40s and 50s and
bemoaning the fate of today's children. Good grief! There were all
kinds of problems back then and there are all kinds of problems now -
some different, some the same. Some kids grew up back then neglected
and abused and some kids today grow up neglected and abused. On the
other hand there were parents and communities that nurtured and supported
their children then, and the same is true today. I shudder to think
the message children are getting from adults who are constantly talking
about how wonderful society used to be and how everything's going to
heck in a handbasket now!

Why do I want to remain a librarian? Because I feel strongly that
libraries and the services and materials they provide make a community a
better place for children and adults. Because I think libraries are
part of the solution to the problems in our society. Because working with
children and their families is rewarding, I learn from them every day,
and children continue to enrich my life and broaden my perspective.
Because I know that what libraries offer to children's lives is enriching,
enlightening, enjoyable and I am very proud to be a part of it. I've
worked in libraries for almost 25 years, and been a children's librarian
for over 15 of those years. Corny as it may sound, I continue to love
my job and take great pride in my role as a librarian in my community.
Yes, we have problems in our library and in our community with
unattended and neglected children, but that certainly does not dampen
my enthusiasm for my profession nor does it make me long for "the good
old days"!

Candy Bertelson Children's Library Manager
Multnomah County Library 801 SW Tenth Ave., Portland, OR 97205
(503)248-5340(v) (503)248-5226(f) candyb@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us





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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:16:03 1997
From: "Karen L. Simonetti" <karensue@mcs.net>
ubject: YA Volunteers & Recognition


I didn't post or respond earlier to the above-captioned topic & did indeed
appreciated Kathy Labadorf's compiled list (thank you for sharing!). I
realize some of the posters listed letters of recommendation, but I do
think that this area should NOT be overlooked or underestimated. (Start
groaning, I realize it may take more word processing than one would care to
tackle). YA volunteers usually need references for future jobs or
volunteer positions. A brief letter on library stationary, stating the YAs
duties, accomplishments, or whatever can go a long way towards helping
these YAs in the future (and again demonstrating to the patron
base/community how integral libraries can be in their lives).

Sometimes we put off writing the letter till it is required, but
administration changes and memories fail. Beyond "certificates of
appreciation", a letter of recognition/recommendation is something that
reflects our position as professionals, reinforces the YA's role in
contributing to the library and is something they can take with them in the
future.

Of course, may be the originals should be handed out separately so as not
to get chocolate ice-cream smears on the envelopes...Karen, who thanks all
those who have gone out of their way to write letters of recommendation!

Karen L. Simonetti
email: karensue@mcs.net
phone: 312.337.7114

"Walk gently, breathe peacefully, laugh hysterically."
Nelson Mandela, 1994 Inaugural Speech

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:16:22 1997
From: North Bay Cooperative Library System <nbclsref@sonic.net>
Subject: Who is David Burt?


Karen Stanley wrote:
>Who is David Burt? When I politely e-mailed him after his first post
>asking him questions about what library he is with, what type of
>librarian, etc. he never even replied to me.
>Karen Stanley
>Rosenberg Library
>>Galveston, TXkstanley@marlin.utmb.edu

David Burt is the head of a pro-filtering organization, Filtering Facts
(homepage at http://www.filteringfacts.org). He works at the Lake Oswego
Public Library, but I do not know what his position is. A news item in
the July 28 Library Journal commented that "his library has not yet
achieved Internet access".

Until very recently, he was a frequent poster to the WEB4LIB list. (When
I searched his name on the list archive at
http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/web4lib, I retrieved 634 hits for items
posted by him or mentioning him.) My impression is that his frequent and
sometimes inflamatory postings were a major factor in the decision to
spin filtering discussion off into its own list
(filt4lib@public.ci.escondido.ca.us).

His contacts with columnist Brock Meeks were apparently a major factor in
Meeks writing an online column that was highly favorable to filters and
critical of librarians. Meeks recently published a new column retracting
this, titled "A Reversal on Libraries and Filters: Parents Beware: The
Software Doesn't Really Work" (http://www.msnbc.com/news105923.asp).

As you may be able to tell from the above, I personally find Mr. Burt's
postings divisive and self-promoting. I consider them to be expressions
of his personal opinions, rather than a source of reliable information on
filters. This is my personal opinion, and does not reflect that of my
employers, nor am I acting as their representative in posting this.

Jean Hewlett
University of San Francisco & North Bay Cooperative Library System
Santa Rosa, California
Email: hewlett@sonic.net

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:16:59 1997
From: Lynn Foltz - Baldwin <foltzlyn@metronet.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Holiday storytime


I have a Winter Holiday storytime I have used successfully with ages 2 - 5
which talks about Hanukkah, Christmas and Kwanzaa and finishes with a
flannel story that incorporates all three holidays. If anyone is
interested, contact me.

Lynn Foltz - Youth Librarian
Baldwin Public Library
Birmingham MI
foltzlyn@metronet.lib.mi.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:18:34 1997
From: andrew or anne <paradis@jorsm.com>
ubject: Re: state CD-ROMS


At 01:36 PM 9/10/97 -0500, you wrote:
>Greetings - Thanks to all for answers to my query about the state CD-ROMS
>published by Gallopade. This must be a very new product as I did not get any
>replies from people who had actully seen or used this product. But I was
>strongly cautioned by several people that the books about the state's that are
> by Carole Marsh and published by Gallopade are of very poor quality. Buyer
>beware!
>~i sig
>
>We have a set on Indiana to fill local inqueries. Desk-top type publishing
and spiral bound in red plastic- all paper.
Anne
>
Andy or Anne
Andrew Paradise, Information/Reference Librarian, Medical Librarian, and
Children's Librarian by marriage: Anne Paradise, Children's Librarian,
mystery reader
Gary Public Library andrew@gary.lib.in.us work
220 West 5th St. paradis@jorsm.com home
Gary, IN 46402 anne@gary.lib.in.us Anne



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:18:51 1997
From: Michelle DiGiacomo <mdigiacomo@ci.sat.tx.us>
Subject: Thanks for help in finding review


I want to thank all of those who sent information on the
book by Bush on Elizabeth I.
Our juvenile collection development coordinator has decided
tha PUBYAC is to helpful to be without, and she will be joining
us.
Thanks again,
Michelle
Carver Branch
San Antonio Public Library


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:19:44 1997
From: Jane E Kurtz <jkurtz@badlands.NoDak.edu>
Subject: Pulling the Lion's Tail


I'm the author of Pulling the Lion's Tail that was on the list about
single parent families. Saying that also gives me the chance to respond
to the request for web sites for kids--I'm a little slow on this, as I
seem to be on everything since the Grand Forks flood. My web site is
geocities.com/Athens/5232/ I've been told it's a great one for kids to
visit, and since one of my books is set in Inca Peru, it might fit with the Spanish culture connection that was requested.

Jane Kurtz
jkurtz@badlands.nodak.edu

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:20:03 1997
From: JoAnne Dearin <dearin@noblenet.org>
Subject: STUMPER


Hi...Hope someone out there can help an elementary music teacher find an
old indian legend. here goes with what I know (???).: As far as we know
it is an old indian legend that is on a record that is dated 1947 (the
teacher has the music which she says is beautiful and would like to find
the actual story). All that is on the record for this song is FIRST WATER
LILY: AN OLD INDIAN LEGEND. Check all of our books on the various Native
Americans (But as she pointed out that term wasn't around in 1947!) and
did not even come close to anything. Thanks in advance...


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JoAnne Dearin | Peabody Institute Library
Children's Librarian | Danvers, Massachusetts
dearin@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange*
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:20:10 1997
From: jwall@norby.latah.lib.id.us (Jan Wall)
ubject: Re: stumper - somebody better


Thank you to all who saved my sanity and let me get on with my life! The
book about the prince who had to marry someone wiser than he is THE KING'S
EQUAL by Katherine Paterson.

The more I chased this stumper, the more elusive it got. It was a relief to
have it answered so quickly!

Jan Wall
Youth Services
Latah County Library
Moscow ID 83843
Phone: 208-882-3925 Fax 208-882-5098
email: jwall@norby.latah.lib.id.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:20:29 1997
From: Jeanette Carolyn Larson <jlarson@tenet.edu>
Subject: Texas Book Festival


Make plans now to attend the 1997 Texas Book Festival in Austin on
November 1-2, 1997. The Festival will feature book signings, readings by
well known Texas authors, panel discussions with featured authors,
entertainment by Texas singer-songwriters, storytellers, and other
literary events. Proceeds benefit Texas public libraries.

Featured authors include Larry McMurty, Diana Ossana, Carlos Fuentes, Jim
Lehrer, Naomi Shihab Nye, and more.

Children's authors include Joan Lowery Nixon, Felicia Bond, Angela Shelf
Medearis, Louis Sachar, John Erickson, Ouida Sebestyen, Rob Thomas, G.
Clifton Wisler, and more.

The festival is FREE and takes place on the Capitol grounds. For
additional information, go to http://link.tsl.state.tx.us/bookfest or call
512-477-4055.

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Submitted by Jeanette Larson, Texas State Library, jlarson@tenet.edu


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:20:43 1997
From: Tamatha Williams <twilliam@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us>
Subject: Core Competencies report



A big thanks to all who sent suggestions for us to look at!
They were a great help. We decided on using the ALSC list
in JOYS Spring 89 - and following is what we came up.

Again, thanks to everyone.

Tammy Williams
twilliam@cumberland.lib.nc.us


Task Force on Children's Librarian I
Core Competencies


Charge: Develop a set of written 'core
competencies' for Children's Librarian
I's For our Library System.


For our report we utilized the competencies
outlined in "Competencies for Librarians
Serving Children in Public Libraries," an
article in the Journal of Youth Services in
Libraries Spring 1989 issue, which were
excerpted from a document approved by ALSC
directors. Many of the competencies we
felt would apply to the whole library system,
not just to Children's Librarian I's. Others
were more applicable to a supervisory position
rather than to an entry level Children's
Services position. Therefore we selected and
arranged the ones we felt most applicable into
two categories - Behavioral and Technical.


Effective library service for children entails a
broad range of expertise and professional skills.
The librarian serving child is, first of all,
fully knowledgeable in the theories, practices,
and emerging trends of librarianship and has, as
well, specialized knowledge of the particular
needs of children as library users.1


TECHNICAL COMPETENCIES

1. Understands theories of infant, child, and
adolescent learning and development and their
implications for library service.

2. Recognizes the needs of a diverse community
as a basis for designing and implementing
services.

3. Understands and responds to the needs of
parents, care givers, and other adults who use
the resources of the children's department.

4. Participates in all aspects of the library's
planning process to represent and support
children's services.

5. Sets long- and short-range goals, objectives,
and priorities.

6. Documents and evaluates services.

7. Demonstrates a knowledge and appreciation of
children's literature, audiovisual materials,
computer resources, and other materials that
constitute a balanced, relevant children's
collection.

8. Keeps abreast of new materials and those for
retrospective purchase by consulting a wide
variety of reviewing sources and publishers'
catalogs, including those of small presses; by
attending professional meetings; and by reading,
viewing, and listening.

9. Is aware of adult reference materials and
other library resources which may serve the
needs of children and their care givers.

10. Applies library policies in acquiring
materials for the children's collection.

11. Understands and applies criteria for
evaluating the content and artistic merit of
children's materials in all genres and formats.

12. Keeps abreast of current issues in
children's materials collections and formulates
a professional philosophy with regard to these
issues.

13. Matches patrons with materials appropriate
to their interest and abilities.

14. Instructs children in information
gathering and research skills as appropriate.

15. Understands and applies search strategies
to give children access to information from the
widest possible range of sources - children's
and adult reference works, indexes, catalogs,
computerized databases, information and referral
files, and interlibrary loan networks.

16. Composes bibliographies, book talks,
displays, and other special tools to increase
access to library resources and motivate their
use.

17. Designs, promotes, executes, and evaluates
programs for children of all ages, based on
their developmental needs and interests and the
goals of the library.

18. Presents a variety of programs or brings
in skilled resource people to present these
programs, including storytelling, book talking,
book discussions, puppet programs, and other
appropriate activities.

19. Provides outreach programs commensurate
with community needs and library goals and
objectives.

20. Establishes programs and services for
parents, individuals and agencies providing
child care, and other professionals in the
community who work with children.

21. Keeps abreast of current trends and
emerging technologies, issues, and research in
librarianship, child development, and education.


BEHAVIORAL COMPETENCIES

1. Demonstrates problem-solving, decision-making,
and mediation techniques.

2. Defines and communicates the needs of
children so that administrators, other library
staff, and members of the larger community
understand the basis for children's services.

3. Demonstrates interpersonal skills in
meeting with children, parents, staff, and
community.

4. Adjusts to the varying demands of writing
planning documents, procedures, guidelines,
memoranda, reports, grant applications,
annotations, and reviews.

5. Speaks effectively when addressing
individuals as well as small and large groups.

6. Applies active listening skills.

7. Conducts productive formal and informal
reference interviews.

8. Communicates constructively with 'problem
patrons.'

9. Inspires children to become lifelong
library users by introducing them to the wealth
of library resources and enabling them to use
libraries effectively.

10. Creates an environment in the children's
department which provides for enjoyable and
convenient use of library resources.

11. Provides help where needed and respects
children's right to browse.

12. Promotes an awareness of and support for
meeting children's library and information needs.

13. Considers the opinions and requests of
children in the development and evaluation of
library services.

14. Practices self-evaluation.

15. Conveys a non judgmental attitude toward
patrons and their requests.

16. Demonstrates an understanding of and
respect for diversity in cultural and ethnic
values.

17. Preserves confidentiality in interchanges
with patrons.

18. Participates in professional organizations
to strengthen skills and contribute to the
profession.

19. Understands that professional development
and continuing education are activities to be
pursued throughout one's career.





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1. "Competencies for Librarians Serving Children in Public Libraries",
_Journal of Youth Service in Libraries_, Spring 1989, p.219-223.




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| Tammy Williams My opinions are my own - |
| Children's Librarian however odd they may be. |
| Cliffdale Branch Library My life is the product of a |
| twilliam@cumberland.lib.nc.us diseased mind, and I love it. |
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 21:45:07 1997
From: ab614@acorn.net (Laura Salmon)
Subject: other library listings


I am so amazed at the resources I have found on this network, that I
would like to find the addresses for Publib and ALAOIF, AS WELL AS THE
FILTER FACTS, if anyone would be so kind as to send them to me. I would
love to subscribe to them also. Thanks in advance.

Laura Salmon
ab614@acorn.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 22:39:48 1997
From: Sylvia Jadczak <sjadczak@mint.net>
ubject: French pen pals


Does anyone know where I can locate information about French speaking pen
pals, preferably with people who live outside of France, for young adults?
There are many sites on the web for e-mail pen pals but I am looking for
some that use snail mail since we have limited e-mail access.

Sylvia Jadczak
sjadczak@mint.net


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Sep 11 22:41:36 1997
From: Melton Kids <meltonkids@smithville.net>
Subject: library cards


Greetings,
Our library is in the process of automating. We are a small library in
a small community. It was decided that all patrons MUST now show their
library card when checking out. I said we'd have to exempt kids from
this edict for obvious reasons. Besides, there are enough obstacles to
getting kids in the library. I couldn't stand making kids leave empty
handed because they didn't have their cards with them. Then the
situation of an adult coming in w/a child with no card in their
possesion was mentioned. What then? Time to get input from you guys.
I only know I don't like sending any child out the door without getting
what they were looking forward to. Your thoughts and policies would be
appreciated!
Carol Thornton-Anderson
Youth Services Melton Public Library French Lick, IN

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