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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:02:10 1997
From: Susan Hall <shall@gcpl.lib.oh.us>
Subject: storytime topic -- NEW books
At least once a year, sometimes twice, I do a preschool storytime called
NEW BOOKS. Object is to read books new to the library in the last few months
that just seem like fun books or good read-alouds.
Happy reading -- SUsan
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:02:10 1997
From: Carolyn Caywood <carolyn@infi.net>
Subject: Re: YA books about desertion
This latest example of a request for a story to cure a problem prompts
me to send the email I'd thus far suppressed. I know that we have to
deal with what the customer requests even when the customer seems to
see books as the equivalent of aspirin, but this kind of thing
concerns me greatly.
First, it is an offense to literature to treat it as prescription
therapy. Good books are not written to cure problems and books that
are conceived as cures are invariably unreadable. Of course good
literature addresses problems -- how else would plots thicken and
characters grow? But when a writer mutilates a character to teach a
lesson or rescues a plot with a deus ex machina to drive home a moral,
the result is the ghastly stuff labeled didactic in reviews.
Second, to assume that it is needful, healthy or curative for a kid in
pain to read stories about similar pain is pop psychology at its
worst. To think that a kid who steals will stop if he reads of other
thieves coming to a bad end is ludicrous. To prescribe Blume's book
_Blubber_ for fat girls, as I once heard an eminent bibliotherapist do,
is insensitive to the point of sadism.
Some kids will choose to read about experiences similar to their own.
Others will find a refuge in stories that have nothing to do with their
present pain. Still others will draw life changing inspiration from books
that have nothing obvious in plot or setting to reflect their own lives,
but are written with artistry and sympathy to illuminate the human condition.
I don't write this to criticise those who have requested stories to
fix kids, but in the hope that we all try to help the customer move
beyond this narrow and ultimately futile view of books as "magic
bullets" to cure kids.
Stepping down from the pulpit, I remain,
Carolyn Caywood % Save the time of the Reader %
carolyn@infi.net % --Ranganathan's 4th Law %
http://www6.pilot.infi.net/~carolyn/ FAX:757-464-6741
936 Independence Blvd. Virginia Beach, VA 23455 757-460-7519
>
> Hi all,
>
> We have a request from a teacher. It is more geared to YA than childrens,
> and since we really don't have a YA dept. we are having problems.
>
> The teacher wants books to help a student, a 14 year old boy, deal with is
> Mother deserting the family. We found a few, and are sure there are many.
> Please write with your suggestions and I'll post a bibl.
>
> Thanks,
> Pam
> pkoehler@wcic.org
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:02:12 1997
From: vickerym@hhpl.on.ca (Marie Vickey)
Subject: Pizza Fingerplay
Here is a fingerplay that I use with the kids
Five leftover pizza pieces
>From the night before,
Dad came and ate one,
Gulp! and then there were
Four leftover pizza pieces,
One with anchovies,
Mom came and ate one.
Gulp! and then there were
Three leftover pizza pieces,
Cheese like sticky glue,
Brother came and ate one,
Gulp! and then there were
Two leftover pizza pieces,
Not having any fun.
Sister came to take one,
Gulp and then there was
One leftover pizza piece,
But I don't wanna be a hog,
So I went and got it,
And split it with the dog!
Hope this helps!
Marie Vickery
Halton Hills P.L.
Acton, Ontario
Canada
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:04:12 1997
From: kmadison@aztec.asu.edu (KATIE ODELL JONES)
ubject: Re: pubyac V1 #63
I was so impressed with the response of Caldecott considerations that I am
going to ask we do the same with the Newbery. I chair the Maricopa County
(AZ) Mock Caldecott and Newbery discussions, and right now our consideration
list for the Newbery is quite short. Please send any nominees you may have
directly to me and I will post the results ASAP. Thanks!
Katie O'Dell Madsion
kmadison@aztec.asu.edu
Tempe Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:04:26 1997
From: bridgett@sunrise.alpinet.net (Bridgett Johnson)
ubject: Re:Wonderstorms #
Thanks to those who responded, here is the info for any one else who might
be interested. > The toll free number is 800-321-1147. The fax toll free
number is
>800-321-1149. Yes, they still sell library promotion stuff. Hope this
>helps.
Bridgett Johnson, Youth Services Librarian, Lewistown Public Library,
Lewistown Montana 59457 406 538-5212 bridgett@alpinet.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:04:38 1997
From: bridgett@sunrise.alpinet.net (Bridgett Johnson)
ubject: RE:Storytime process
Thanks for all the great ideas. Last year I went to a broad theme base and
thought it was pretty good, I still threw in my favorites or new books that
I liked and even changed the theme at the last minute.
After one storytime that my preschooler attended, he told me that I had too
many stories and songs about one thing. He wished I'd put other stories in
it. Out of the mouth of babes. So my story time may have a theme, at the
begining and a tye in at the end. But it now no longer has just one idea
running through it.
Bridgett Johnson, Youth Services Librarian, Lewistown Public Library,
Lewistown Montana 59457 406 538-5212 bridgett@alpinet.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:04:50 1997
From: Shannon VanHemert <shannonv@jefferson.lib.co.us>
Subject: Re: Storytime Process (and getting in trouble)
On Sun, 14 Sep 1997, Angela Reynolds wrote:
<snip> >More recently, I
> just find books I like, then go from there. (I just did a storytime on
> flies....)
I once did a storytime on flies too. There are great books--I Know an Old
Lady Who...., The Old Black Fly, etc. I was doing what I thought was a
wonderful storytime for a daycare group, and being of a scientific bent,
asked the kids if they knew what fly *babies* were. None did, so I got
into this discussion about maggots. Yes, how they are actually little
recyclers and part of the chain of life, and NO, I did NOT talk about how
doctors sometimes used them to keep wounds from developing terrible
gangrene (it's true).
WELL!! My boss gets a call about an hour later from the director of the
daycare wondering why on earth I did a storytime all about DEATH. Death?
Then I thought back over the stories and hmmm, yes, the old lady dies.
Hmmm, yes, the fly does get good and squished....Maggots, hmmm, yes.
>From then on, when we were grousing about reaction to a storytime, we only
had to say "maggots" and it set us all off laughing....
Shannon VanHemert
Head, Children's Dept., Columbine Branch
Jefferson County Public Library
7706 W. Bowles Ave.
Littleton, CO 80123
shannonv@jefferson.lib.co.us
Phone: (303) 932-2690 Fax: (303) 932-3041
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:05:08 1997
From: ewall@norby.latah.lib.id.us (Ellen Wall)
ubject: changing length of circulation period
We are considering changing the length of our circulation period for books
from 2 weeks to 1 month. There is speculation that this change will
decrease the number of people visiting the library and cut-back on
circulation. Currently, we check out between 600-2000 items a day, with a
very small staff. Has any other library of a similar size made this change?
What was/is your experience? Did the work load diminish or just shift? I
did do a quick search on Uncover, but did not find any relevant articles. TIA.
**********************************************************
Ellen Harter Wall
Youth Services Librarian
Latah County Library District
110 S. Jefferson
Moscow, ID 83843
208-882-3923
ewall@norby.latah.lib.id.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:05:34 1997
From: ewall@norby.latah.lib.id.us (Ellen Wall)
ubject: craft indexes
I'm interested in hearing from people who have craft indexes, specifically
Crafts Index for Young People and Multicultural Projects Index, both by Mary
Anne Pilger. We're considering purchasing one, but would like some input
before we spend the $$. Please send your comments/suggestions directly to
me. I have tried to ILL these, but since they're reference books, have had
no luck. TIA.
**********************************************************
Ellen Harter Wall
Youth Services Librarian
Latah County Library District
110 S. Jefferson
Moscow, ID 83843
208-882-3923
ewall@norby.latah.lib.id.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:05:51 1997
From: CHI_TONYA@dayton.lib.oh.us
Subject: Library-use videos for use with children
Hello! I work in the Children's Room of the Dayton and Montgomery County
Public Library in Dayton, OH. We've had a "rash" of teachers who have
requested videos or movies on library usage for their classes. Most of these
kids are in the first to fourth grades. We have a plethora of things that
talk about using the card catalog, etc. Only problem is, we've been automated
for about ten years, and got rid of the card catalogs altogether about
three-ish years ago. We'd like something that's kind of general on computer
use, but discusses the Dewey decimal system, and how to use the Children's
Room. (Unfortunately, I don't think we're creative enough to make our own
*AND* make it entertaining.)
My supervisor attempted to get a new video last year, but it has NEVER
arrived! Someone suggested I pick the collective brain of PUBYAC, so here I
am. Does anyone have any suggestions for us? Please E-Mail me at the address
below.
Thanks, in advance-
Tonya Lancaster
Reference Assistant
Dayton & Mont. Co. Public Library
Dayton, OH
chi_tonya@dayton.lib.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:06:59 1997
From: karen wendt <kmwendt@scls.lib.wi.us>
ubject: Copyright-Puppet shows, flannel stories
Steven Engelfried, West Linn Public Library wrote...
I'm a little confused about puppet shows and copyright laws. I'm not
sure why (as a recent post pointed out), librarians need to get
permission to perform a puppet show based on a copyrighted book.
....How far away from the actual book-as-it-is-printed can we go without
violating copyright?
I really don't want to break any laws, and I certainly respect the
authors' wish for control of their creations. ...doing a puppet show version
is always great promotion for the book it was based on. I don't see the
harm in it. Can anyone clarify this legal question for me, and maybe
explain the logic behind it? I'd also be interested to know how many
librarians adhere strictly to whatever the actual law is...
I hope to hear some replies on the list about this from all of you PUBYACERs
as I was wondering the same thing. Steven wrote it for me. Karen
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kmwendt@scls.lib.wi.us
Karen M. Wendt, Children's and Young Adult Coordinator
Monona Public Library
1000 Nichols Road, Monona WI 53716
608-222-6127
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 20:07:40 1997
From: Sally Kintner <skintner@wln.com>
Subject: ANCIENT CIVILIZATIONS - Booklist
Thanks to all who sent suggestions for a list of fiction set in "ancient
times" and appropriate for
teens. Here's the finished list, minus annotations. If you'd like a copy
of the booklist please request with your return mailing address:
skintner@wln.com
EGYPT:
Hunt, Angela "Dreamers"
"Escape from Egypt"
McGraw, Eloise "Mara, daughter of the Nile"
"The golden goblet
Rubalcaba, Jill "A place in the Sun"
Service, Pamela "The reluctant god"
Stolz, Mary "Cat in the mirror
Tarr, Judith "King and goddess"
"Pillar of fire"
Gedge, Pauline "Child of the morning"
MAYAN AND AZTEC
Duran, Gloria "Malinche: slave princess of Cortez"
Highwater, Jamake "The sun, he dies"
Odell, Scott "The feathered serpent"
Talbert, Marc "Heart of a jaguar"
GREEK
Alcock, Vivien "Singer to the sea god"
Alexander, Lloyd "The Arkadians"
Evslin, Bernard "The adventures of Ulysses"
Hoover, H.M. "The Dawn Palace: the story of Medea"
Renault, Mary "The king must die"
ANCIENT ISRAEL
Holmes, Marjorie "Three from Galilee"
Napoli, Donna Jo "Song of the Magdalene"
Speare, Elizabeth "The bronze bow"
ROMAN
Bradshaw, Gillian "The beacon at Alexandria"
"Bearkeeper's daughter"
"Horses of heaven
"Imperial purple"
Davis, Lindsey "Last act in Palmyra"
Saylor, Steven "A murder on the Appian Way"
ROMAN BRITAIN
Bradley, Marion Z. "The forest house"
Gedge, Pauline "The eagle and the raven"
Sutcliff, Rosemary "The eagle of the ninth"
"Frontier wolf"
"The mark of the horse lord"
"The silver branch"
"Outcast"
"Warrior scarlet"
NATIVE AMERICAN
Highwater, Jamake "Legend days"
Service, Pamela "Vision quest"
NON-FICTION
Alexander Renault, Mary "The nature of Alexander"
Fleischman, Paul "Dateline: Troy"
Sutcliff, Rosemary "Black ships before Troy: the story of the Illiad"
"The Wanderings of Odysseus"
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 23:15:19 1997
From: Vanston <jvanston@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Nappy Hair
I am not one of those censorship advocates, in fact, I shudder at
censorship. But when I saw someone list Nappy Hair as an award contender,
I had to write. Am I the only one who doesn't like this book? To me, it
seems to have an element of racism. Note: I would not pull this book! I am
just curious to see how others feel, and to see if I'm just oversensitive.
Jen
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 23:15:20 1997
From: Monica Anderson <mand@vlc.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Video: teaching library skills
Pubyackers --
I still need help from a request I had made a couple of weeks ago...
I have a school media specialist who would like to find a video (although
she'd also use a filmstrip or CD-ROM) on library skills. She's
particularly interested in teaching the Dewey Decimal System. Does
anyone know of anything???
Thanks for your help
Monica Anderson
Bay County Library System
Bay City, MI 48708
mand@vlc.lib.mi.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 23:15:24 1997
From: Rebecca Rich-Wulfmeyer <rwulfm@ci.temple.tx.us>
Subject: jumper stumper
Thanks to the many people who responded to my question about the frog
who made butter by swimming at length in cream. Apparently, it is a
well known fable. It is mostly attributed to Aesop, but the story is
apparently recounted by other authors, as well. If anyone is interested
in more information, they can respond to me off the list.
Becky Rich-Wulfmeyer
Children's Librarian
Temple Public Library
rwulfm@ci.temple.tx.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 23:15:34 1997
From: Barb Scott <scottba@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Stumper: Zebras
A patron of ours has a question: why can't zebras be
domesticated? This patron heard Jack Hanna say something about the other
day on a program, but unfortunately, didn't hear the answer. Is it
because they are endangered or is it something in their physical make-up
that makes them unable to be tamed?
Many thanks in advance for the answer! Reply directly to me at
scottba@oplin.lib.oh.us.
Barbara Scott
Bucyrus Public Library
Bucyrus, Ohio 44820
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 23:16:28 1997
From: "James B. Casey" <jimcasey@lib.oak-lawn.il.us>
Subject: [Fwd: Membership discussion list]
Following is a report on initial implementation of the membership
discussion list, per Council's action in San Francisco. This is an
area of ongoing, rapid development. The details will, therefore,
continue to change -- and improve. We will keep you
informed.
Let
me
know
if
you
have
questions
or
concerns.
mg
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 23:16:45 1997
From: Carolyn Caywood <carolyn@infi.net>
Subject: Stumper: turnips and shoes
This question has already been to the Stumpers people. Now we're
turning to you as a last resort!
Forwarded message:
> We are trying to help our customer locate a children's book she
> read about 1970 when she was a child. It may have been a picture
> book or a short chapter book. All that she remembers is that
> turnips were traded for shoes. One of our staff members
> remembers, vaguely, reading something like this as a child
> herself and thinks it may have been in a school reader. There's
> a possibility it may be one of Lois Lenski's books. We have
> checked Caroln Shankle at UNC Greensboro and Karen Hoyle of the
> Kerlan Collection at the U. of Minnesota who is still checking
> her sources. I think our best hope to identify this book is
> from the memory of a teacher or librarian. Does anyone remember
> this book?
>
Please respond to Theresa Dunleavy, tdunleav@leo.vsla.edu
on whose behalf I am posting this. I'll let y'al know the answer if
we get one.
Carolyn Caywood % Save the time of the Reader %
carolyn@infi.net % --Ranganathan's 4th Law %
http://www6.pilot.infi.net/~carolyn/ FAX:757-464-6741
936 Independence Blvd. Virginia Beach, VA 23455 757-460-7519
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Sep 17 23:16:54 1997
From: Beth Peaden <peadenb@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: "Tear Jerkers" Bib
I am interested in duplicating a display where kleenex tissues were used
to rate the "cry" appeal of certain books. A piece of kleenex was
attached to a piece of tagboard indicating the the titles with "one tissue
appeal", two tissues for titles with "two tissue appeal", and
finally
three tissues for the most challenging tear jerkers. I am interested in
Easy and Juvenile Fiction titles. Here is what I have so
far:
Fly Away Home. Eve Bunting. (*)
The Wall. Eve Bunting. (**)
Something Very Sorry. Arno Bohlmeijer. (***)
Cages. Peg Kehret. (***)
Missing May. Cynthia Rylant (**)
Gift of the Girl Who Couldn't Hear. Susan Shreve. (*)
*represents tissue
I want a fairly contemporary set.
Any input on the ratings applied to these or other titles would be
appreciated.
Beth Peaden, Youth Specialist
Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library
Tampa, FL
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