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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:07 1997
From: "Renee McGrath" <renee1023@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: bibliotherapy
This is a new one on us here at my library. A patron would like a picture
book about the amputation of a limb. This is for a 3 year old, yes I did
say 3. We cannot find anything. The grandmother is having a leg amputated
and the mother was trying to find something.
Yes, I know that the chances are slim, and yes, maybe bibliotherapy in this
circumstance would not be advisable, but this is what she would like to
try.
Any ideas? I knew that if there is something out there, pubyackers would
be able to help. We looked in all the familiar places, and then some.
Thank you.
Renee McGrath
Lynbrook Public Library
renee1023@worldnet.att.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:06 1997
From: RichardGuy@aol.com
Subject: Re: classic?
A classic is a book that's still in print......:-)
Richard Moore
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:07 1997
From: "Renee McGrath" <renee1023@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: intermediate books or whatever you call them
We are going to be making a separate section for all of those slightly
harder easy to read books, early chapter books, illustrated books for older
children and the like.
I would like to know, if you have a section like this, how do you
distinguish the book on the spine. Do you know of any labels out there for
this (and where did you get them) do you use colored tape, etc?
I know this is my second question in one day! Sorry.
TIA
Renee McGrath
Lynbrook Public Library
renee1023@worldnet.att.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:05 1997
From: Brenda <bkohn@sendit.sendit.nodak.edu>
ubject: Dial-a-Story
I know the subject of dial-a-story has come up at least 2 times this
summer, but searching the archives I could not find the answer I need.
If anyone has the Name and Address (telephone number if possible) of a
company that sells Dial-a-Story machines I would appreciate the information.
I have searched all the sources I know of this summer and come up with nothing.
Please reply to bkohn@sendit.nodak.edu or to the list.
Thank you!
Brenda Kohn
bkohn@sendit.nodak.edu
Children's Librarian
Jamestown, North Dakota
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:04 1997
From: "Mary Moody" <mmoody@vigo.lib.in.us>
Subject: Summer Reading Club Change
Greetings,
For many years our Summer Reading Club has given incentives to
children for the number of books read. We are ready for a change!
We have considered several options and have decided to to look
closely at a reading program that emphasizes the number of minutes
read vs. the number of books. We feel that this method would prove
to be less discriminating for all the children. This would allow
each child to read the books of their choice without the stress of
reading a certain number of books to receive a prize.
I am hoping that some of my fellow "pubyackers" have had experience
with this sort of program and would be willing to share whatever
perspectives, ideas, or concerns that you may have.
Please e-mail me privately.
Thank you in advance for your help.
Mary Moody
Children's Librarian
Vigo County Public Library
Terre Haute, IN
\o/ \o/ \o/ "Let everything that hath breath Praise the Lord!"
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:04 1997
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@zelda.walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
ubject: Re: classic?
I put color codes on the YA paperbacks -- all the genres are in the
catalog, so anyone looking specifically for Walder or Persuasion knew where
to look --
Mary Ann Gilpatrick
Young Peoples' Librarian
Walla Walla Public Library
238 E. Alder
509-527-4550
fax: 509-527-3748
magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us
opinions my own, not WWPL, etc etc
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:04 1997
From: "Elwood Public Library" <catalog@indy.net>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #80, pioneer days story request
In response to Carl Harvey's request for pioneer days story: I may have
misunderstood, but if you really meant you were looking for one, 30-minute
story; my first suggestion would be to plan several shorter stories &
related activities to fill your 30-minute time frame. For youngsters this
age, I find variety and a quick pace keeps their attention better focused.
Excepts from "Bears of Blue River," or the "Little House"
series could be
read aloud -- a good 'hook' to get them to want to borrow the book & read
the rest. Also, James Whitcomb Riley poetry (even though not quite the
same time period), especially "Little Orphant' Annie" at this time of
year.
"Hanna's Hog" by Jim Aylesworth makes a fun participation story when
the
kids 'call the hog' and make the bear noises -- just substitute horses &
wagon for the truck.
And because families used to make up their own stories and tell for
entertainment, I would have the kids spend some time *telling*, especially
if you're working in small group settings where the kids are rotating
through other pioneer activities. There are many different devices you can
use to initiate this activity. I like to have the kids 'spin a yarn.'
I use differently colored yarn -- each color a different length, from 3"
to 3' -- knotted and rolled into a ball. I seat everyone in a circle, and
explain that they put the ball in their lap, grasp the loose end between
one thumb & forefinger and make up/add to the story as long as they are
pulling the yarn through their other thumb and forefinger to the next knot.
(Much easier to show than to explain in writing!) Set any other ground
rules -- no modern conveniences in this case, for example -- and tell an
opening 'paragraph' or two before handing the yarn to the first child. Be
ready to prompt the shy little ones. You can go around as many times as
you like until you run out of yarn, or just end when it gets back around to
you, but be prepared to provide closure to the story.
Hope this helps!
Kathi Wittkamper
Elwood Public Library
Elwood, Indiana
catalog@indy.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:06 1997
From: CARENS@Queens.Lib.NY.US
Subject: Library Pets
First, I would like to thank all who responded to my posting regarding the
library fish. The tank holds water, an attractive new stand was made by our
maintainance staff, and a volunteer staff member came on his own time to clean
the thing out. It's not completely set up yet, but looking a whole lot better.
We still don't know about who is going to maintain it, etc., and that is why I
wrote you all.
37 librarians responded to my posting. They stated that they have an array of
animals in their children's roooms, including fish, African Underwater Frogs
(3), an iguana, birds, gerbils, a chameleon, hamsters, a rat, a gheko lizard,
rabbit, salamanders, guinea pigs, and in one library baby chicks were hatched.
Tanks ranged in sized from one fish bowl to 100 gallons. One library has a
fish pond. One library has a tank 20 feet long with flowing water to replicate
a river environment. Tow have salt water tanks. Some have more than one tank.
One has three. One has six tanks built into a castle. One coordinator wrote
that there are 10-20 fish tanks in her system, all 2 ft. long and 1 ft. deep.
Some have had their tank only 1 month, 4 have had animals for more than 10
years. The others range in between these time periods.
8 libraries have their tanks maintained by professionals, 3 by volunteers, 10
by library staff (most by custodial, hourly or paraprofessional staff). NOone
stated that they were forced to maintain the tank. Problems were reported with
staff maintained tanks such as tanks not being cleaned soon or often enough,
problems with water chemistry balance, and fish dying en masse. A couple of
people with fish said mammals would be easier to maintain, and others with fish
said exactly the opposite. ONe library switched from fish to mammals in the
same tank. One librarian banished the fish tank from the library as soon as
she arrived. Another librarian brought her fish and tank from home and set
them up in the library. All but one that mentioned feeding said that staff fed
the fish (18 out of 19). All but one that mentioned dead fish said that staff
takes the dead fish out of the tank (7 out of 8). Some (3+) said that their
Friends groups funded a professional to maintain the tank and suggested that we
ask our Friends group to raise money to pay for the same.
Two libraries reported animals being taken from tanks. Two reported children
hitting the glass. ONe reported children throwing things in the tank. Two
libraries had "name the fish" contests. Two librarians stated
"I'm not a
zookeeper." One person commented, "it is a real pain, more so because
we know
nothing about fish." Another said, "the kids seemed just as fascinated
by the
tank when we had no fish but just lots of bubbles." I could go on and on
...
I've leaned aplenty" and thank you all for your helpful responses. For the
first time we are thinking about this tank in realistic terms. We are planning
a program for the "unveiling" (an "ocean of peace" mural for
the stand come
holiday time) and fave fingers crossed that all will go smoothly. YOu guys are
the greatest!!!
----- Caren Shilling, Asst. Div. Manager, Youth Services
Queens Library, 89-11 Merrick Blvd., Jamaica, NY 11432
Carens@queens.lib.ny.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:05 1997
From: Victoria Kozich <vkozich@amon.pub-lib.ci.fort-worth.tx.us>
ubject: Children's Vietnamese Web sites
Does anyone know of any children's web sites in Vietnamese? We are
hoping to add some to our children's page if we can find any. Thanks in
advance.
-Victoria Kozich
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:07 1997
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: GREAT dog centered fiction
Friends unseen-
I would like to put together a bibliography of the best dog stories for
kids written in the last 50 years or so; which ones have moved you the
most/made you laugh the hardest/most earned your respect/would win the
ribbons if you were judging? With maybe a very brief annotation telling
what makes them worthy. In print is nice but not necessary, primarily
3rd-6th grade stuff. Please send responses to me privately; I will
publish the end result here. My favorite for the past few years has
been BILL, by Chap Reaver,but maybe one of you knows about an even more
wonderful one. I'm thinking that the main protagonist shouldn't have to
be a dog as long as a dog has a central role . Thanks in advance...
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
schachtc@LCM.macomb.lib.mi.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:07 1997
From: Victoria Kozich <vkozich@amon.pub-lib.ci.fort-worth.tx.us>
ubject: Spanish and Vietnamese ordering materials
Help!! Does anyone out there have any phone numbers or addresses to
vendors or publishers who deal with children's Spanish and/or Vietnamese
materials? I am currently using Mulitcultural Books and Videos out of
Michigan and Multicultural Distributing Center out of California, but am
desperately trying to widen my scope of options. Thanks in advance.
-Victoria Kozich
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 11:17:04 1997
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: classic?
On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Marijo Kist wrote:
> My pet peeve question is cropping up again and again. And I was wondering
> about the rest of you and how you respond. The question is: "Where are
> your classics? I need to read a classic."
>
> I have lists generated by a variety of places, but how is a classic
> defined?
>
:::Tongue seriously in cheek::: "A book your teacher is forcing you to
read..."
But no. I usu. define it (to teens and parents who ask) as a book that
has withstood the test of time in one of two ways: (1) Despite decades,
even centuries passing, it's still interesting, useful, virtuous or true -
or some combination of the forgoing - OR - (2) It's considered by
teachers, critics and professors to be useful in understanding your
literary heritage.
HTH
Kirsten Edwards E-mail to kirstedw@kcls.org
Young Adult Librarian Voice: 206-888-0554 (North Bend)
North Bend, Snoqualmie and Fax: 206-296-0216 (North Bend Library)
Fall City Libraries
KING COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM
115 East 4th Avenue
North Bend, WA 98045
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 14:22:03 1997
From: smorris@denver.lib.co.us
Subject: Stumper: "and now I'll be six forever and ever"
Hi,
We have a needle in a haystack. If you can help, we would appreciate
it. A woman donated a book to a Michigan Library around 1971 in
memory of her son. That library no longer has the book, but she is
looking for it. The only thing she remembers about it is that "It had
a lot of pictures, and the final line in the book was 'and now I'll be
six forever and ever.'" If you have clues to help us find this book,
we would really appreciate it. Thanks
Sharon Morris
Denver Public Library
smorris@denver.lib.co.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 14:22:03 1997
From: andrew or anne <paradis@jorsm.com>
ubject: Fourth Little Pig
Thanks to all who answered, and for the bibliographic information! I will
pass the answer along to my colleague when next I see her. (She is a school
librarian who also subs in the public library).
Anne
"`You have no business wearing white to the Middle
Ages,' he'd said, `It will only get dirty.'"
Connie Willis
*Doomsday Book*
Andy or Anne -- Andrew Paradise, Information/Reference Librarian, Medical
Librarian, and Children's Librarian by marriage: Anne Paradise, Children's
Librarian, mystery reader!
Gary Public Library andrew@gary.lib.in.us work
220 West 5th St. paradis@jorsm.com home
Gary, IN 46402 anne@gary.lib.in.us Anne
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:12:26 1997
From: E Spicer <espicer@accn.org>
Subject: Re: classic?
Considering that our literary history and heritage has a definite
socio-political undertone [good or bad?], does the following definition
insure that all are represented? Is it inclusive? Is it dependent on a
definition of "interesting" etc and/or "teachers, critics and
professors?" Is "literary heritage" a bit like mercury?
"But no. I usu. define it (to teens and parents who ask) as a book
that
has withstood the test of time in one of two ways: (1) Despite decades,
even centuries passing, it's still interesting, useful, virtuous or true
-
or some combination of the forgoing - OR - (2) It's considered by
teachers, critics and professors to be useful in understanding your
literary heritage."
PS I very much enjoyed thinking about this post.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:13:00 1997
From: "Sharon Oliver" <smoliver@mailbox.syr.edu>
Subject: Brandeis Univ. National Women's Com. request
This is being cross-posted; sorry.
I am posting the following for Shirley J. Brickman. She is interested
in knowing if there are libraries in the country who have volunteers to
assist children in using computers, with or without a structured
program, and would like any information you could provide. The eventual
goal, as I understand it, is to fund such volunteer programs in public
libraries.
Please respond directly to Ms. Brickman, by Oct. 13, if possible.
Also, contact her for additional information. Thank you.
--
Monique A. King
Youth Services Librarian
Benicia (CA) Public Library
work: mking@snap.lib.ca.us
play: moniquek@goplay.com
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Since its inception in 1948, the Brandeis University National Women's
Committee, with 105 chapters and a membership of almost 50,000 men and
women, has not only committed itself to the support of the Brandeis
University's libraries, but via a network of members throught the
county, is participating in literacy programs, working as reading
mentors to children and adults in public libraries and schools.
In celebration of our 50th anniversary, with the advent of the computer
age, I would like to suggest a program where volunteers would offer
their services to libraries, teaching young children simple educational
games using the library's computers.
The plan for this type of program is already being implemented by the
Enoch Pratt Library in Baltimore, Maryland.
I can't think of a better means to support President Clinton's challenge
to prepare future students with the ability to read and comprehend.
We, the Brandeis University National Women's Committee are committed to
joing the fight against illiteracy today.
Sincerely,
Shirley J. Brickman
National Chairman of Community Service
17202 Ventana Drive
Boca Raton, FL 33487
(561) 995-9105
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:13:47 1997
From: jholm@thomaston.lib.me.us
Subject: Re: intermediate books or whatever you call them
At the Thomaston Public Library, as the Children's Librarian, I have
color coded with those little dots that noone ever knows what to do
with, in the following way - a red dot signifies that it is a
"beginning to read book" i.e. "Little Bear". I use an orange
dot for
a beginning chapter book, i.e. "The Brownie Series" I put them on the
spine on top of the designated spine label.
Hope that helps.
Jane Holmsen
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:13:57 1997
From: "Cathy S. Lichtman" <cathyl@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Go Cart plans
Does anyone know of a good place to find plans for building a go-cart? I
have searched Infotrac & First Search and have come up empty handed. You
may reply to me and I will post replies. Thanks in advance.
Cathy Lichtman
Orion Township Public Library
Lake Orion, MI 48362
cathyl@tln.lib.mi.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:14:30 1997
From: "Alison Hendon" <ahendon@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: classic?
> On Wed, 1 Oct 1997, Marijo Kist wrote:
>
> > My pet peeve question is cropping up again and again. And I was
> > wondering about the rest of you and how you respond. The question
> > is: "Where are your classics? I need to read a classic."
> >
> > I have lists generated by a variety of places, but how is a
> > classic defined?
We have a section of books called "Assignment Fiction". Most of the
"classics" or books on reading lists are shelved here (with dark
green tape on the spine, all in paperback). How are these books
determined? I don't actually know. The authors include Austen,
Cormier, Morrison, Zindel, etc.
Alison Hendon
Brooklyn Public Library
Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org
"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:14:57 1997
From: "Alison Hendon" <ahendon@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: intermediate books or whatever you call them
Renee asked:
> We are going to be making a separate section for all of
those
> slightly harder easy to read books, early chapter books, illustrated
> books for older children and the like.
>
> I would like to know, if you have a section like this, how do you
> distinguish the book on the spine. Do you know of any labels out
> there for this (and where did you get them) do you use colored
> tape, etc?
At my branch we use red foil stars on what we call "Bridge" books
(early chapter books that are harder than "I Can Read" books). We
buy them from the stationery store I think.
Alison Hendon
Brooklyn Public Library
Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org
"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:15:48 1997
From: Sherri Douglas <sherrid@muskox.alaska.edu>
Subject: Volunteer Storytellers
We have received two requests in the past month from adults who would
like to "read to children". We had a discussion about this at our last
staff meeting and the general consensus was that our storytimes and
lapsit programs are run by professional librarians and that isan integral
part of our role as Youth Services Librarians in a public library. At
one point in time, we hoped to train volunteers to serve as a
"Storytelling Guild" so that we could pull from this group of trained
volulnteers when we receive requests for outreach to the community that
we are unable to fullfill ourselves due to scheduling conflicts.
I would like to hear how other libraries deal with such requests from
adults wanting to read to children. Do any of you utilize volunteers to
read to children on a regular basis? Have any of you created a
volunteer core of trained readers?
Please respond directly to me. I will summarize responses for the list.
Thank you for your time and thoughts.
Sherri Douglas
Anchorage Municipal Libraries
sherrid@muskox.alaska.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:16:32 1997
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: seasonal clip art
For anybody who needs Halloween clip art and hasn't yet fully utilized
the possibilities of the web in this regard, if you get on Altavista
and do a search for +Halloween +"clip art", they'll steer you to a
whole
bunch of promising pages with readily copyable stuff. This technology
business may well be leading us in the direction of a place where
snowballs don't stand much chance, but I can't argue with the fact that
along the way it does have useful applications...
CBS
Romeo District Librasry
Romeo, MI.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:16:53 1997
From: cchesh@tc3net.com (Cathy Chesher)
Subject: Board books - processing
Hello, this is a how do you do it at your library question. That is, how do you
and where do you put pockets on board books? We still use date due cards and
have security labels underneath pockets. As you know, most board books don't
have a title page. We're left with putting a clear, plastic pocket on one of the
pages or putting in a swing pocket (which is a pain and doesn't seem to be very
durable). Is there another solution we're just not thinking of? How about on the
back of the book? It seems the pockets would be easily torn.
Thanks for the advice. I can summarize comments if anyone is interested.
Cathy Chesher
Adrian Public library
143 E. Maumee St
Adrian, Michigan
cchesh@tc3net.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:17:06 1997
From: Carolyn Caywood <carolyn@infi.net>
Subject: Re: classic?
Another way to define a "classic" is as an opportunity. You, the
librarian and great literary authority, have just been given carte
blanche to recommend a book dear to your heart. Make the most of it!
Carolyn
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Oct 6 22:17:30 1997
From: "Marion Dodson" <wackeegirl@hotmail.com>
Subject: Reference Tools on CD-ROM
Hello! Does anyone know what company puts out the following reference
CD-ROMs:
1. Something About the Author
2. Chuildren's Literature Review
3. Something About the Author (Autobiography Series)
4. Major Authors and Illustrators
Please reply directly to me! Thanks!
Marion Dodson
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