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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 00:16:54 1997
From: Carolyn Caywood <carolyn@infi.net>
Subject: Youth Participation Guidelines press release (fwd)


If you have a youth participation group/teen advisory board/or
anything similar, please read through this press release and send in
the information on the group to Esther. (Don't send it to Pubyac or
me, please!)
If you don't have a teen group, think about it.
Carolyn Caywood

> According to Esther Murphy:
> Message-Id: <s44b46af.025@ala.org>
> Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 11:56:08 -0500
> From: Esther Murphy <emurphy@ala.org>
> To: Young Adult Library Services Association List <yalsa-l@ala1.ala.org>
> Subject: Youth Participation Guidelines press release
>
> YALSA plans youth participation in ALA programs
> When members of the American Library Association (ALA) want
> to include young adults, ages 12 through 18, in their programs and
> activities, the Young Adult Library Services Association (YALSA) can be
> of assistance.
> YALSA is, for the first time, making available guidelines to
> facilitate youth participation that will be beneficial to both young adults
> and ALA members.
> The guidelines state that, "young adults will benefit because
> participation will provide opportunities to gain confidence and
> self-esteem, and acquire knowledge and skills that will be useful in
> future endeavors. Members will benefit from the input of young adults in
> the creation and development of library activities, programs and
> publications, thus insuring the relevance of the products and services to
> the young adult population."
> The guidelines provide suggested activities and procedures for
> participation. Activities include: using young adults as presenters and
> participants in ALA programs; offering library advocacy training to young
> adults; and assisting in the development of recruitment materials.
> The guidelines can be used as a model for developing youth
> participation activities at state and local levels.
> A database of school and public libraries with active youth
> participation groups will be created, which will enable ALA members to
> contact YALSA for suggestions. The data base will also include Teen
> Friends groups from the Friends Of Libraries USA.
> To be included in the database, libraries should provide the
> following information to YALSA:
> Name of library
> Name of group
> Adult contact
> Mailing address, phone and fax numbers and e-mail address
> Type of group (book discussion, programming, advisory, advocacy, etc.)
> Average number of members
>
> Send information to YALSA, 50 East Huron Street, Chicago, IL
> 60611. Fax: 312-664-7459. E-mail: yalsa@ala.org.
>
> The guidelines are available from Fax-On-Demand:800-545-2433
> press 8. The document number is 898. The are also posted in the
> YALSA Web site: www.ala.org/yalsa. Look under "YALSA Handbook."
>
> YALSA office: (800) 545-2433 x 4390.
> -30-
>


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 00:23:20 1997
From: Brenda Hauck <hauckbr@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: comic books



We are considering adding comic books to our young adult collection in
1998. Is anyone currently circulating comic books? Is it a successful
circulation? Does anyone have any sources for purchasing them? I have been
given the source of Gemini. TIA

Brenda Hauck
Young Adult Librarian
Swanton Public Library
hauckbr@oplin.lib.oh.us



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 00:41:58 1997
From: Dave Davis <ddavis@tusc.net>
Subject: Job Opening


Children's Services Leader - MA in library science from ALA accredited
library school. Prefer 2+ years of successful children's service in a
public library setting. Considerable microcomputer skills. Work schedule
includes eveing and weekend hours. Annual salary $23,030 with additional
longevity supplement based on previous successful record of children's
services. Additional noncash benefits. Application closing date 5PM
Friday 19 December 1997. For more information and complete job
description, contact Dave Davis - Director, Tuscaloosa Public Library,
1801 River Road, Tuscaloosa AL 35401-1099, [205]345-5820 EX#204


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 00:55:25 1997
From: cp804@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Kara J. Cervelli)
Subject: Stumpers: Scarecrow / Caterpillar


I have a patron who is looking for two books. The first is about a
scarecrow. His clothing comes together one by one...the pants wiggle, the
shoes clump clump....A child walks through the woods as the clothes
accumulate. The child says "I'm not scared" but walks faster as the
clothes accumulate. The scarecrow ends up in the field (maybe with a
pumpkin for a head) and the child opens the door and says "you don't
scare me"

The second story (maybe w/ a religious tone or moral...) is about a
caterpillar, walking on the ground, envious of the butterflies he sees
overhead. The caterpillar makes a cocoon and changes to a butterfly
himself...sees other caterpillars on the ground and wonders if he should
tell them what is going to happen....says to himself" no, I wont spoil the
surprise" title may be something like Butterfly Surprise?

I hope either of these rings a bell to someone out there.

Thanks in advance for your help!

Kara Cervelli
cp804@cleveland.freenet.edu

--
Kara Cervelli "And a hey nonny nonny dum day!"
Perry Public Library -Tom Chapin-
3753 Main St. Perry, OH 44081 "The Troubador"
cp804@cleveland.freenet.edu

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 00:59:39 1997
From: Elaine Morgan <elainem@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Concept Books


In our library system we present a program called Building Blocks to
Literacy (formerly Reading Readiness). Each hour long session focuses on
a concept that preschool children need to grasp before they can learn to
read. We do not teach reading. We present the concept through books,
fingerplays, felt boards--the usual activites and include a playtime with
toys that reinforce the concept. This is also designed as a parent/child
program. (If you want more info on this, email me privately.) We have
been doing this program since 1984, with changes and modifications as time
has passed. It is a very popular program.
Recently we realized that our booklists for each concept had gotten pretty
old and needed updating. Many of our favorites were out of print or no
longer in our collections. Most of the concepts are easy to find title
for, i.e. colors, numbers. However two of them are more elusive and here
is where I need your collective help. The two concepts are as follows:

1. Following directions: to be able to follow simple directions and
recognize directional symbols. Examples of titles are RED LIGHT, GREEN
LIGHT by Brown and Hoban's I READ SYMBOLS and I READ SIGNS.

2. Spatial Relationships: to develop spatial awareness and an
understanding of position in space. Words like over, under, up, down,
beside, between, behind, etc. Examples of titles are INSIDE OUTSIDE
UPSIDE DOWN by Berenstain, ROSIE'S WALK by Hutchins, and WHERE'S JENNA by
Miller.
If you have any titles that you think would fit either of these concepts,
would you please send them to me at elainem@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us.
I will post the titles to the list. TIA!!

Elaine Lesh Morgan, Youth Librarian Rockwood Branch Library
Multnomah County Library 17917 S.E. Stark St.
(503) 248-5396 fax (503)248-5178 Portland, OR 97233
elainem@nethost.multnomah.or.lib.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 01:12:01 1997
From: Jeanette Carolyn Larson <jlarson@tenet.edu>
Subject: Texas/Videoconference


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:49:29 1997
From: DENWALL@aol.com
Subject: Follett bound books


Who has had experience using Follet Bound sewn or glued books at the lower
elementary
level? I am a new school librarian working in a PreK-3rd library (just
reconfigured from
K-8) and just used Follett's Title Wave to put together an order. I need to
replace alot of
"classic" books that have been trashed over the years and it appears that
Follett has
rebound a number of these that have been reissued in paperback. I am
wondering about:

-the quality of the graphics
-the durability of the books (they come without plastic covers and Follett
claims to
"guarentee" their bindings, whatever that means)

Books in my library get heavy use, and often, abuse, as most kids come from
nonliterate
homes where parents have not been library users and don't pay much attention
to what
kids do with books. On the other hand, given a choice between a publishers
edition and
a Follett bound book, the latter is less expensive.

Thanks for sharing your experience.

Pat Wallace
Mt Auburn ElementarySchool Librarian, Dallas Public Schools
denwall@aol.com

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:49:29 1997
From: mchelton@cadvantage.com (marykchelton)
ubject: Training All Staff to Work with Kids


Where "everybody-serves-all-ages" training falls apart, in my experience,
is in the requirement that all staff must read or view or listen to
materials of interest to all ages. Being a REAL all-ages generalist means
that staff who prefer adult materials will have a quota of childrens' and
YA books to read, the same as staff who prefer youth materials will have a
mandated quota of popular adult titles to read. I have yet to see
generalist training that mandates this crossover regarding content.
Usually, the assumption is that the catalog takes up the content slack,
which anybody who works with kids can tell you it doesn't.
Besides the reading, viewing, etc., there needs to be discussion so the
connection between types of users and materials can be made.

Why, by the way, is Ft. Collins doing this? I have often found that this
training idea surfaces when there are too little staff and a perception
that children's staff do not already work with adults, or a new building is
being built--with too little staff.

I am very jaundiced on this issue because I have seen such blatant
hypocrisy by library administrations who say one thing and do another.

Mary K.

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Mary K. Chelton, MLS, PhD
Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Management
Emporia State University
1200 Commercial
Emporia, KS 66801
phone: (316) 341-5071 work
(316)342-9277 home
fax: (316) 342-6391 home
e-mail: mchelton@cadvantage.com





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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:49:29 1997
From: mchelton@cadvantage.com (marykchelton)
ubject: IF and youth


>For any library that is using filtering or blocking software...I am
>curious if you have had any "problems" with them. Specifically, any
>public complaint of access to an inappropriate site that slipped through
>the filtering software.

>I am gathering information for an upcoming meeting (Nov. 20).
>Please reply to me directly. Thanks for your time.


I find this post fascinating. Is it the position of most people on this
list that Internet filters are a foregone conclusion? Most of the ALAOIF
List discussion is, in one way or another, about kids and their rights to
information, but it rarely seems to be an issue here. Is "youth advocacy"
dead? Or is there some communal assumption that PUBYAC is only for
practical problems, not philosophical, as if managing IF problems were not
a practical issue. Has this concern been delegated "up" to library managers
and trustees?

Intellectual freedom has always been a central concern of the advocacy side
of young adult services, but you would think it wasn't even an issue
reading this list. What's going on? Other than Carolyn Caywood and myself,
are any of you lurking on the ALAOIF list? Is it now a waste of time to
teach IF issues in library school youth services classes. Should Patrick
Jones have left them out of the new edition of his book?

Mary K.



******************************************************************************
Mary K. Chelton, MLS, PhD
Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Management
Emporia State University
1200 Commercial
Emporia, KS 66801
phone: (316) 341-5071 work
(316)342-9277 home
fax: (316) 342-6391 home
e-mail: mchelton@cadvantage.com





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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:49:29 1997
From: rgwd@sprynet.com
Subject: Dragon Craft


I once did a dragon program at a community arts festival featuring
dragon books and a craft. The craft was easy because there were all age
children, including some that were mentally challenged.
Materials:
Glue, empty toilet paper tubes, crayons, 1/2" styrofoam balls, yellow,
red and orange crepe paper streamers, black marker.
1. Each child uses crayons to color the tubes however they wish, keeping
in mind that this will be the dragon's head.
2. On one end of the tube, glue the two styrofoam balls to act as eyes.
Draw pupils using the black marker.
3. Cut several length of the crepe paper streamers longer than the tube.
On the end of the tube where the eyes, carefully put a line of glue
arouns the inside of the tube. Now, put the streamers on the glue, going
all the way around the inside of the tube. The tube will have streamers
coming out of the end in front of the eyes.
4. After the glue dries, kids can make their dragon roar and breath fire
by blowing through the tube causing the crepe paper to move.

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:53:09 1997
From: HOKE@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us
Subject: Re: School Librarians


> I volunteered to stay after school and run this. I was told by the
> principal that the district has always paid for extras such as this and
> until contracts are negotiated and signed, teachers could not add extra
> duties. So it's not necessarily a matter of school librarians not wanting
> to stay after. Sometimes it's purely a matter of school politics. I think
> it's time we stop pointing fingers at each other, and start collectively
> pointing them (loudly) towards school administrators and boards. :-) This
> is how we'll be able to see a change made. Just my two or three cents
> worth. Thanks.
> Mary J. Konieczka
> Heritage Middle School Librarian
> maryjo9@aol.com

Mary -

A contract negotiated between a bargaining unit and management needs to be
upheld by both sides. I suggest that bargaining unit employees who feel
strongly about matters like this talk to their union representatives about
changing this part of the contract in the next negotiating cycle. Also
there might be a possibility of a side letter which amends the contract.

Management is not going to let itself wide open for a lawsuit (especially
this day and age) on something which may be expressly forbidden in the
contract. I believe that all employees are covered by a contract whether
you belong to a union or not (even in a right to work state). Talk to your
union representative about this.

Carol Hoke
Hoke@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:53:34 1997
From: Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: STUMPER: Cinderella


I am deeply sorry if I offended anyone with my response. "Beauty
and the Beast" is one of my favourite tales, and I am passionately fond of
almost all literary fairy tales and retellings. Which is exactly why I
wonder so many reviews in children's literature sources make a point of
criticizing some children's fairy tale retellings for NOT being authentic!
I understand the value of an author's note indicating sources of a tale,
and I suppose there are assignments which require "real" (?) myths and
legends. But, as Carolyn points out, this is a distinction which can be
hard to define. However, when you are trying to establish the "oldest"
fairy tale (I think that this was the original question), a literary
creation with a pretty identifiable "starting date" is probably not as
good a candidate as one whose origins are lost in the distant pasts of
folk tradition.
By the way, since I am NOT a folklorist or an expert on fairy
tales, can any one help me on what makes a tale a "variant" of another?
For example, is the lost shoe the defining characteristic of the
Cinderella story? (But this would leave out such well-known "versions" as
The Rough-Faced Girl). Or is it the stepsisters? Or simply the
despised-girl-makes-good-and-marries-prince theme (how many fairy tales
would fit under THAT category?) Does "variant" have a precise meaning? Or
does it, like "authenticity", reside in the eye of the beholder?

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] Lesley Knieriem [
# Reference/YA Librarian (516) 549-4411 #
] South Huntington Public Library lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us [
# Huntington Station, NY 11746 #
] ------------------------------------------------------------- [
# "Ordo languet, pudicitia sordescit, pietas refugit, #
= doctrina rarescit, sophia hebescit." -- CARMINA BURANA LXCIII [
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On Fri, 7 Nov 1997, Carolyn Caywood wrote:

> Please continue to be pedantic, Lesley, and tell me if "East of the
> Sun and West of the Moon," "The Lame Dog," and "The Black Bull of
> Norroway" qualify as authentic folk tradition? I understand your
> point, but when a literary fable so captures the folk imagination that
> is is echoed across a continent and a millenium, surely there is more
> going on?
> Carolyn
> >
>



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:53:44 1997
From: Tanya Ellenburg-Kimmet <tellenburg@gcpl.lib.oh.us>
Subject: comic books



I work at a small library in a college town. We currently have comics and
graphic novels. Depending on what titles we carry, sometimes we are cleaned
out of comics. You really have to see what will go well with your community
though. We currently receive Superman, Batman, Amazing Spiderman, Uncanny
X-men, JLA, Bone, Leave it to Chance, New Mutants, X-factor, and a few Archie
titles. The best way to know what might go well is to talk to your local
comic stores and talk to your local young adults. Between the two, you can
get a really good selection.

Good luck

Tanya Ellenburg-Kimmet
Young Adult Specialist
Yellow Springs Library

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:54:07 1997
From: PUB_YAC@mln.lib.ma.us
Subject: Re: comic books



Brenda--

I would not recommend using Gemini--they don't carry much beyond standard
DC or Marvel titles. I Would recommend that you set up an account with
your local comic book store, particularly if your patrons shop there.
Your local store should be able to recommend titles of local interest.
Many libraries are circulating comics; it gives libraries a currency
that is tactile. I have organized comic book collections in 2 libraries
serving very different populations--and can testify that comics do sig-
nificantly add value to the collection, especially if they circulate.

Steve Weiner, Director
Maynard Public Library, Maynard, MA
Author, 100 Graphic Novels for Public Libraries

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:54:51 1997
From: "Kimberly Bears" <kimbat@hotmail.com>
Subject: Weeding Children's Books


Hi all,

My name is Kim Bears and I am a member of the Continuing Education
committee for the Children's Librarians of New Hampshire group. We are
in the process of putting together a 2-hour workshop on the "hot" topic
of weeding a children's book collection for our spring New Hampshire
Library Association conference. It will be quite a diverse crowd that
attends this workshop. There will be some professional children's
librarians, non-professional children's librarians, as well as, some
school librarians too! A bulk of the librarians work in stand alone
libraries (no branches). Therefore, we need to start out basic and move
onto the specifics.

Do any of you wonderful people out there have any written words of
wisdom that you could share with us? (Ie: handouts with formulas for
weeding, and written policies or procedures for weeding children's books
specifically, etc.) We would also like to ask for copyright permission
as these handouts will be distributed to those attending our workshop.

If you do, please e-mail me at kimbat@hotmail.com or
fax them to me at 603-437-6610 or
snail mail them to me at Leach Library
276 Mammoth Road
Londonderry, NH 03053
"Weed" really appreciate it! Thanks so much!

P.S. Oh, and one more thing...any "creative" ideas on what to do with
the books once you've discarded them? Thanks again!


************************************************************
Kim Bears Phone: (603) 432-1127
Head of Children's Services Fax: (603) 437-6610
Leach Library E-mail: kimbat@hotmail.com
276 Mammoth Road
Londonderry, NH 03053




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:55:22 1997
From: Susan McGowan <smcgowan@nslsilus.org>
ubject: Summary: YA ppbk preference


Thanks(!) to all who responded to my request for hints on how to find great
YA titles in paperback sooner. These are the ideas you sent:
*******************
here are some good places to locate listings of YA paperbacks:

KLIATT (reviews only paperbacks)
33 Bay State Road
Wellesley, MA 02181
617-237-7577

YOYA (Voice of Youth Advocates)
Scarecrow Press
4720A Boston Way
Lanham, MD 20706
1- 888-486-9297 (toll-free)

Lots of paperbacks included in their reprint list every issue.
*******************
Save the reviews for the titles you want. (most take about a year to appear
in pbk.) Order hardcover for the titles that will be so popular everyone
will want them as soon as they hit the stores, or ones that will be wanted
over a period of several years.

To keep on top of the paperback issue, I keep in contact with my local
independant bookstore. Their children's specialist and I get together once
every few months and she lets me know what's new in paperback, and I let her
know what things might work well for her in hardback. In fact, we have a
whole review council of booksellers, teachers, and librarians.
*********************
We use a jobber called Ingrams, they have a bi monthly/mothly microfiche
catalog as well as a quarterly paper catalogue. When I read a review, I go
to Ingrams to check the price. Libraries and schools get up to 38 - 40 %
off the list price when applied for when setting up an account. If it is in
HC, Lib ed, or paperback you can usually get all three, but mostly they sell
the paperbacks first, the pb's always have the big discount the HC sometimes
when new can only be discounted 10 - 15%. We only order 1 copy of a title,
they are very fast, and very good to work with for returns, and postage is
very reasonable, they use UPS.
********************
I understand why you want to buy paperbacks--would it help you to check
with Brodart? That's our source for all our book ordering, and they
can be checked on-line (I don't know the details of this; we order from
Brodart, so we are hooked into them to check on-line). They offer a great
deal in paperback. They also put out a print catalog a couple of times
a year which lists all their YA titles. (whoops--just checked--that seems
to be once a year)Their # is 800-233-8467.
*******************
Baker & Taylors Hotpicks. This has all the latest and
greatest in paperbacks for adults, ya's, and juv.
email at btinfo@baker-taylor.e-mail.com or call 1-800-775-1100.

******************
Baker & Taylor has a free monthly publication called Hot Pics which lists
ordering information and annotations for Adult, YA and Children's
paperbacks. Titles are not reviewed.

Another good source is a yearly catalog put out by The Bookmen
(1-800-328-8411) called Paperbacks for Young People. It is divided by age
range and includes non-fiction, big books, and Spanish-language books in
addition to standard paperbacks.
******************
"Keeping a list of great YA hardcovers and then
going into BIP or Amazon.com and looking them up a year later will turn
up the ones that have been published in pbk." Amazon can do even better
than this-- do a search on Amazon's catalog, and you'll see an option to
have e-mail sent when a new title matching your search enters the Amazon
catalog. You can do this if you want to make sure you know a new book by
a favorite author comes out, or if you want to be notified of any books on
a very specific or obscure subject, or, in this case, if you want to know
when a new edition (in this case, paperback) of a particular title comes
out. Just "register" hardcover titles that you want to buy in paperback,
and eventually you'll get a message. Not fool-proof, but exceedingly
helpful.
*****************
do you use or can you get "Books in
Print with Reviews" on CD-rom? We find it really helpful, it's updated
monthly and usually covers formats.
***************

Susan McGowan
Head of Reference
Morton Grove Public Library
Morton Grove, IL
(847) 965-4220
smcgowan@mgk.nslsilus.org
http://www.webrary.org
Opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect
official Library policy.



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:55:59 1997
From: StoryPage@aol.com
Subject: Re: Juvenile bindings


In a message dated 97-11-09 08:52:39 EST, you write:

<< I am wondering if anyone know of any statistics regarding library bindings
vs. trade bindings. The discount difference between the two is 20% and I
am curious whether or not the price difference is worth it. >>

Well, I have no statistics, but I do have a little personal experience. Two
thoughts: One, the cheaper binding lasts almost no time. Trade often lasts
only a few circs before it is trashed. Two, I buy almost all books via Bound
to Stay Bound, which lasts much, much longer than either. In fact, with
non-fiction, it often outlasts the currency of the information in it. I have
had to withdraw otherwise beautiful books because the information is no
longer current. And I believe it is cheaper than library binding.

But when I can't find it in BTSB, I go with library binding.

--Jim Maroon

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:56:11 1997
From: North Bay Cooperative Library System <nbclsref@sonic.net>
Subject: Books in Malay or Indonesian


Does anyone know a U.S. distributor or bookstore that carries children's
books in Malay or Indonesian?

We have checked Multi-Cultural Books and Asia for Kids. The National
Library of Malaysia was very helpful and sent a nice list, but few of the
books on it appear to be available at U.S. libraries. We located three
bookshops on the web (in Malay, bookstores is buku kedai) but none seem
to list children's books. Our patron would prefer to purchase books in
this country, rather than ordering them from Malaysia. Thanks in advance
for any help you can provide.
Jean Hewlett
North Bay Cooperative Library System
55 E Street, Santa Rosa, CA 95404
Phone: 707-544-0142 ext.14
Fax: 707-544-8411
Email: nbclsref@sonic.net

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:56:31 1997
From: Cynthia Stilley <cstilley@ns.flint.lib.mi.us>
Subject: children's librarians


Here's a question? Which (if any) library schools emphasize children's
librarianship and turn out first-rate children's librarians?

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Cynthia S. Stilley (810) 232-7111 #234
Flint Public Library FAX: (810)232-8360
1026 E. Kearsley, cstilley@flint.lib.mi.us
Flint, MI 48502 http://www.flint.lib.mi.us/fpl.html
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:57:23 1997
From: "Tammy Daubner" <tlvdinoh@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: YA summer programs



Hi-

At the Medina County District Library where I am a YA librarian, we've
been doing separate YA summer reading for about 7 years now. We use a
"raffle" format for the games, and it's pretty informal. The teens fill
out a short entry form for each book that they've read. We expect them
to be honest about what they read and how much, but of course there are
some kids who try to take advantage. We draw a name or names (usually
weekly) from the pool of entries to be winners. I have on occasion
drawn a different name when I feel certain that the person whose entry
I've drawn was not honest (they read Roots and The Hobbit and Scarlet
Letter in a week?). We have used a variety of prizes over the years -
t-shirts, baseball caps, thermal cups, etc. In the past couple of years
we've moved towards gift certificates as prizes - Waldenbooks, local
record stores, movie theaters, and electronics stores. They are popular
because the kids can choose what they want to buy with them. Another
idea we tried this last summer that was popular was to let the kids
choose what prize they wanted to try for by having three different entry
boxes. They put their entry form in the box indicating the prize they
wanted to win. The movie boxes usually had the most entries, but some
kids were smart enough to look in the boxes and figure their odds were
better to win if they chose something else. Of course, they could
divide their entries between all three boxes and have a chance at all
three prizes.

If you have questions or want more information, don't hesitate to e-mail
me, call or write:

Tammy Daubner
Medina County District Library
210 S. Broadway
Medina, OH 44256
(330)722-4257
tlvdinoh@hotmail.com

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:59:41 1997
From: Dawn Rutherford <rutherfo@chipublib.org>
Subject: stumper: broom game?


Hello everyone!

I had a patron come in this morning looking for information on a party
game called the broom game. All her father-in-law told her was that it
involved a broom, a hat, and that they were going to play it at
thanksgiving.

Anyone heard of this one?

Thanks,

Dawn Rutherford
Carl B. Roden Branch
Chicago Public Library



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Nov 10 23:59:56 1997
From: Charlotte Lesser <clesser@keene.edu>
Subject: Stumper - village with "royal" child


Greetings!
I have a patron looking for a story she remembers:
a village is told that one of their children is actually a member of the
royal family. The villagers treat their children much more kindly after
being told that! She can't remember is the village ever finds out which
child/ or indeed if any child really is royal.

Almost sounds like a fable or parable.
I have checked _Storyteller's Sourcebook_ and _Index to Fairy Tales_
without any luck.

Ring any bells?

Thanks!

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Charlotte Lesser Phone (603) 352-0157
Head of Youth & Community Services Fax (603) 352-1101
Keene Public Library email clesser@keene.edu
60 Winter St.
Keene NH 03431

Check out the Youth Dept. Home page on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/library/jyouth.htm

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