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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:56:41 1997
From: Saroj Ghoting <sghoting@capaccess.org>
Subject: kidspeak
I am not sure if this is the kind of question you mean, but it is an
interaction I have remembered for many years.
A four year old boy came in with his mother. When I asked if I could help
find anything, the mother encouraged her son to ask. He said he wanted a
book on Australia. When I confirmed that he wanted books on the country,
he wanted to see what it looked like, I found some non-fiction books with
photos. He looked through a couple and said that Australia doesn't look
like that. He clearly did not want the books. He said there was a boy
who went to Australia, where it was good to live. When I showed him
Alexander and the Terrible, Horrible, No Good Very Bad Day, his face lit up.
Maybe he was having that kind of a day.--s.
Saroj Ghoting Head, Children's Services
sghoting@capaccess.org Rockville Regional Library
voice: 301-217-3869 Montgomery Co. Dept. of Public Libraries
fax: 301-217-3931 99 Maryland Ave., Rockville, MD 20850
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:56:39 1997
From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@hotmail.com>
Subject: thanks!
To all who replied to my "food for fines" question: Thank you very
much. Unfortunately our staff meeting was cancelled this morning on
account of the ice/snow storm we've got going here in MA and may not be
rescheduled until the first week in December. I shared everyone's
responses with my director, and I think he's all for the project. I'll
do an update when a decision has been made.
Thanks again for the input.
Lisa
Lisa Prolman
Assistant Children's Librarian
Greenfield Public Library
Greenfield, MA
(413)772-1590
lprolman@hotmail.com
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wonderful."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:56:40 1997
From: Joan Soulliere <joans@lis.pitt.edu>
Subject: Re: Library Course Question
To Terry re: course selection,
I would select the Public Library course because you will need an
overview of how the Children's Dept. fits into the overall scheme of
public library operation, as well as an idea of how budget and personnel
decisions are made. The Literacy course is also valuable and sounds
quite interesting. Think about the type of library you will work in.
If you feel strongly called to go to a large system with a wide variety
of outreach and community-based programs, then the Literacy course might
be of greater value. Keep in mind, though, that a larger system will
most likely have personnel in place to help you learn about local
literacy needs. Censorship, budget and personnel decisions and policies
will be with you no matter where you go. Also, the more information you
have about how public libraries work, the better you will be able to
choose which library is best for you because you will know which
questions to ask during an interview and what to observe.
I am also a graduate MLIS student but speak from a good bit of
experience before taking the academic plunge. If you have more
questions, feel free to email me directly.
Joan Soulliere
University of Pittsburgh
School of Information Sciences
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:56:40 1997
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Subject: damaged videos
Brenda Kohn asks about policies on charging for damaged videos.
I'm not absolutely sure on this, but I -think- what our circ desk does is
thank the borrower for alerting us to the problem.
We don't look at the videos between circs, so how can we tell if the
borrower damaged the video? Just as likely a bad video would damage the
borrower's VCR.
Bonita
--
Bonita Kale
bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:56:44 1997
From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: e-mail
Bonita:
Our library allows email access _IF_ the patron has an email account
through hotmail or the like. Before I started working here the problem
(so I have been told, but remeber this is third hand) was that certain
patrons were ordering things on the net and trying to use the library
email address for billing or delivery. I can't speak to the accuracy of
the story or the details, but the hotmail option seems to work for us.
Lisa Prolman
Assistant Children's Librarian
Greenfield Public Library
Greenfield, MA
(413)772-1590
lprolman@hotmail.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:56:39 1997
From: MARILYN CLARK <CLARKM@tlc.lib.oh.us>
Subject: teacher strike/Library activities
The Toledo-Lucas County Public Library serves 7 school districts. The largest
is the Toledo Public Schools which is contract negotiations with its teachers'
union (plus separate negotiations for principals and support staff). The
teachers' contract expires on Nov 30 and it appears that they are headed for a
strike.
Twelve of 18 branches and Main Library serve students who live in the
TPS school district.
My question - Have any of you been in a city where teachers were on strike or
schools closed for any extended period of time that was <not> regularly
scheduled like winter holiday or spring break? And what did you plan and do
with the students who came to the Library?
Your prompt response will definitely be appreciated! Please respond directly
to me at e-mail address or fax.
Marilyn Clark
Coordinator of Children's & YA Services
Toledo-Lucas County Public Library
325 Michigan St
Toledo, OH 43624
e-mail: clarkm@tlc.lib.oh.us
voice: 419/259-5388
fax: 419/255-1332
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:57:16 1997
From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: ornament ideas
Walter:
After growing up and then living as an adult in towns where I am one of
the only -- if not the only -- Jews around, I have to say that for me
personally the idea of a many holiday tree in a library doesn't bother
me. Kwanzaa and Hanukkah were hardly mentioned where I grew up and I
find it refreshing that with the predominance of Christmas that
librarians and teachers are taking the time to show that other holidays
are celebrated at about the same time and to show some of the things
attached to them.
Just my two cents.
Lisa
Lisa Prolman
Greenfield Public Library
**This idea, um, really bothers me. I've known a great many people who
celebrate Hannukah in my life, & the message I've always received from
them is that "Hanukkah is _not_ Christmas." Neither is Kwanzaa.
<snip>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:57:23 1997
From: "Michael Konnert" <mkonnert@vigo.lib.in.us>
Subject: Book bags for home day care providers
I am the Ourtreach Services Librarian for Vigo Co. Pub. Lib. Terre
Haute, In. I realize this response is a little late. We put
together collections for 103 commercial and in home day care centers.
We include books 10 - 20, audiocassette - 1, big book - 1, Videos, A
puppet one month, alternated with a puzzle the next month. We put
the collection together ourself and deliver it to the daycare. The
used collection is picked up by us. This is done on a monthly basis.
We use heavy canvas bags for transporting the collections. We have
these bags sewn to our specifications by a local company. Feel free
to contact me if you have further questions.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:57:55 1997
From: "Carrie, Charlie & Travis" <eldridge@rockisland.com>
Subject: CD-ROm for preschoolers
I need some recommendations for CD-ROM programs for preschool
age. This will be loaded on a stand alone computer in the children's
area.
Thanks!
Carrie Eldridge
Acting Director
San Juan Island Library District
From: "Carrie, Charlie & Travis" <eldridge@rockisland.com>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:58:06 1997
From: cmediavi@ucla.edu (Cindy Mediavilla)
ubject: HOMEWORK CENTERS
Hello Fellow PUBYACers:
I am pulling together a grant application to study homework center programs
in public libraries across the country and need your input on outstanding
programs I should target in my research. I have a pretty good handle on
those programs which have appeared in the literature (e.g., Enoch Pratt;
Seaside Branch in Monterey County, CA; Long Beach PL, CA; PASS in Oakland,
CA; etc), so please don't forward those. I also have Mary K.'s _Excellence
in Library Services to Young Adults_, which lists several. What I need
from you are the names of model programs that have not appeared in the
national literature. Please send your responses directly to my e-address
below; and keep your fingers crossed that I get the grant! We all certainly
could use more info on how to successfully set up and run homework centers!
Many thanks!
Cindy Mediavilla
PhD student
UCLA, Dept. of Library and Information Science
cmediavi@ucla.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:58:24 1997
From: "new haven" <elmnewhaven@hotmail.com>
Subject: re tree decoration
Please, please,PLEASE reconsider your plan to decorate an evergreen with
Chanukah and Kwanza deocorations. I'm sure your heart is in the right
place - wanting to make sure all your library patrons feel included in
your craft program- but decorating a tree with Chanukah ornaments is
just not appropriate. As the story goes "There's no such thing as a
Chanukah Bush..."
Rachael Sherwood
Children's Librarian
New Haven Free Public Library
New Haven, Connectiut
elmnewhaven@hotmail.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:00:38 1997
From: "Kimberley Walker BTB BWTR Mkt WALKERK - BTMAIL" Subject: Baker
& Taylor Sues Hawaii and HSPLS
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For Immediate Release
Contact: Arnie Wight
(908) 429-6414 (office)
(800) 641-3507
Baker & Taylor Sues Hawaii and HSPLS
for Wrongfully Canceling Library Contract
Bridgewater, NJ--November 10, 1997--Baker & Taylor (B&T) today filed
suit in
Hawaii State Circuit Court claiming the State of Hawaii, the Hawaii State
Public Library System (HSPLS) and State Librarian Bart Kane wrongfully
terminated a library outsourcing contract with B&T. The complaint states
that HSPLS cited B&T for performance concerns which were not based on
contract
requirements to deflect political opposition to the outsourcing model designed
by HSPLS.
B&T is asking the court to hold that B&T's termination was factually and
legally unjustified. B&T is also asking the court to find that the
termination
of the contract was not made in good faith, was an abuse of discretion and was
itself a breach of the contract by HSPLS. B&T is seeking to recover damages
both in accordance with the contract terms and as the court may deem
appropriate for such a termination.
In the suit, B&T lists in detail all its efforts to comply with and exceed
its contractual obligations in the outsourcing contract, and cites examples
of how HSPLS failed to fulfill its requirements under the contract. B&T says
most of the problems cited by HSPLS with the outsourcing contract were in fact
created by the failure of HSPLS to provide B&T with information, access to
automation systems and cooperation required by the contract.
"HSPLS appears to be using Baker & Taylor as a political scapegoat to
cover
its unpopular decision to outsource book selection and other library
functions," said Arnie Wight, senior vice president of Baker & Taylor.
"We
have shown both the Department of Education Blue Ribbon Panel and HSPLS
specific information demonstrating our compliance with the contract. We
have also shown them evidence that the issues raised by HSPLS--including delays
in shipments and issues related to book selection--were actually caused by
HSPLS," Wight said.
"Unfortunately, the state has ignored this evidence and our good faith
efforts
to resolve all issues between us through mediation," Wight said.
"Consequently,
we had no choice but to defend B&T's performance in court."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:02:11 1997
From: Stacey Freedman <freedmas@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us>
Subject: Re: ornament ideas
> On Wed, 12 Nov 1997, A. Day wrote:
>
> > Hello, all. To celebrate our community's annual Cold Nights, Warm
Lights
> > kickoff to the winter holiday season we are having a tree trimming
event in
> > the youth services department. The plan is to have the kids create
three
> > different, but simple, ornaments that represent Kwanzaa, Hanukkah and
> > Christmas to decorate an evergreen in the department...
>
> This idea, um, really bothers me.
<snip>
> Walter Minkel, School Corps Technology Trainer
>
I have to say, as someone who celebrates Hanukkah, I whole-heartedly
agree with Walter. It reminds me of elementary school where we sang all
Christmas songs with an obligatory "Dredel, Dredel, Dredel." (This was
before Kwanzaa was really talked about in schools.) I was always very
upset about this because it seemed as if what I believed was less
important than Christmas. Putting these "ornaments" on the tree (even
if
you don't call it a Christmas tree) not only sends a message that
Christmas is more important, but it shows that you don't understand the
meaning of the other two holidays. If you want to show true respect of
all three traditions, you might have the children make decorations that
represent the different holidays and let them stand alone, not on a tree.
Or how about making a quilt where the children decorate patches for each
holiday? When you put the patches together you will have a quilt that
represents all three holidays in an equal and respectful manner.
Stacey Freedman
Children's Programmer
East Columbia Branch Library
410/313-7730
freedmas@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:02:28 1997
From: Park Ridge Public Library <cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us>
Subject: The Best Children's Librarians
Hello all,
I must put my 2 cents in and echo Janice Del Negro's post. The University of
Illinois at Urbana-Champaign Graduate School of Library and Information Science
(where I received my MLS) is a wealthy training ground for Children's
Librarians. Betsy Hearne and Christine Jenkins are indeed two incredible
professors who bring an amazing amount of experience and wisdom to the area of
Children's and YAs Literature/Services. As a former graduate assistant at the
Center for Children's Books, I came to this profession with a greater knowledge
of children's literature than I would have had I not been given that practicum
opportunity. I think I turned out okay :-).
Yeah for UIUC GSLIS!
Charlene Witek (formerly Downing)
Children's Librarian
Park Ridge Public Library
Park Ridge, IL
cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 16:56:40 1997
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: Training All Staff to Work with Kids
On Mon, 10 Nov 1997, marykchelton wrote:
I have yet to see
> generalist training that mandates this crossover regarding content.
> Usually, the assumption is that the catalog takes up the content slack,
> which anybody who works with kids can tell you it doesn't.
>
So I *didn't* need to read Zane Grey, Joanna Lindsey, John Grisham,
Bridges of Madison County and all the other adult cr--- -er, nevermind....
Nor did I need to read my way thru the magazine section from THE ADVOCATE
thru POPULAR SCIENCE? My library school instructors must just have their
heads in the sand...
Sorry. But I learned in library school that you need to read across
genres and age ranges and interests to be a top-notch reference librarian.
I won't say I'm there yet, but I'm working on it!
Kirsten (Who agrees with you in principle) Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:12:55 1997
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@zelda.walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
ubject: Shiloh, again
Posting for a school media specialist friend:
She is in a K - 5 elementary school and has gotten her first challenge.
I know how often this book has been challenged for young people, purely on
the h--- word and the d--- word.
Any defenses you can send me, case histories of use in context, etc., would
be greatly appreciated.
TIA,
Mary Ann Gilpatrick
Young Peoples' Librarian
Walla Walla Public Library
238 E. Alder
509-527-4550
fax: 509-527-3748
magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us
opinions my own, not WWPL, etc etc
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:12:28 1997
From: druthgo@sonic.net (Dr. Ruth I. Gordon)
ubject: School & public cooperation
PUBBERS: Lest anyone think that I was/am anti-public library, I want to
give an example of pro-child and pro-public cooperation. And, if possible,
suggest it is a good way for systems to work together.
When I was a county librarian for schools, our office was open all year
although the schools were closed in summer (it is an agricultural-ranching
county and many youngsters work during summer.) With the willing blessing
of the County Bd. of Ed., and the superintendent, we loaned as many books
as it wanted to the county public library to use as it saw fit in its
branches, spinner racks in stores, and the central library. We maintained
the inventory records, delivered the books, kept up with requests for
titles (as best we could) from people throughout the county, via the public
library, The county library checked out "our" books as it would check
out
its books. In short, we tried to help because all the children were our
children.
If books were lost--that's the way of it. It happens.
I did ask for one small bit of cooperation from the county librarian:
could we possibly consider this as inter-library borrowing and receive
funds? We would do the paper work. Nope--he wouldn't do it--why?-- I have
never ascertained. It was all perfectly legal, by the way. I had
checked. Nonetheless, the next summer we again loaned books. Our
collection was more current and better than the public's not because we had
more money, but because of my training and experience.
Anyway, it's an idea that might be put into practice by others, should
local school boards and local school administration, and local and state
education law permit.
Big Grandma
==================
"You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass
the guilty." Jessica Mitford (1917-1996)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:05:32 1997
From: Becky Smith <bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Re: damaged videos
Brenda Kohn asked about policies regarding damaged videotapes.
About two years ago, our library adopted what we felt was a truly
radical departure from standard practices for damaged materials -
we quit charging people for them. Period. (With one slight
exception: if the damage is deliberate - pages torn or razored
out of brand-new books, for example.)
We've found that the money involved is negligible when compared
to the benefits received. For example, this policy has improved
our public relations beyond belief! People are so delighted when
we tell them we don't charge for any but deliberate damage. (And
so little damage really is deliberate...) They're no longer afraid
to come back to the library with a book their toddler has scribbled
in, or a video with a broken hinge, or a cassette that's been
'stretched', or whatever. Damage happens. People don't mean for
it to happen. We don't charge them for it.
There are decided benefits for the staff, as well. They no longer
have to deal with trying to place the blame for damage, or with
irate patrons who insist the damage was already there. Patrons
who really aren't to blame for the damage don't get charged for
something they didn't do, which creates much good will toward the
library. This policy has saved considerable time and headaches for
us as well as our patrons.
We've found that we have no more damaged materials now than we
did before this policy was instituted - and our working atmosphere
is just a little more pleasant because of it!
--
Becky Smith
Children's Librarian
Logan (UT) Library
bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us
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"We learn from history that we do not learn anything from history."
-Mark Twain-
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:08:07 1997
From: Carolyn Caywood <carolyn@infi.net>
Subject: Re: ornament ideas
I'm just catching up with a couple of days of email. I had the same
reaction as Walter. I applaud your desire to honor all the holidays
in December, but I feel you will do it better if you do it separately.
I am more familiar with Kwanzaa and it was most definitely not created
as a sort of Black Christmas. While the values of Kwanzaa are
certainly universal, the holiday draws on African harvest traditions
and is, if anything, closer to Thanksgiving in spirit. One major
aspect of Kwanzaa is that it encourages refocusing away from the
commercialization of holidays and a return to family celebration.
Homemade gifts and BOOKS are considered most appropriate.
Carolyn Caywood
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:06:49 1997
From: "Tammy Daubner" <tlvdinoh@hotmail.com>
Subject: WWW "treasure hunts"
Hi PUBYACers:
This may have been discussed before, but I searched through the PUBYAC
archives without any luck, so I'm going to bring it up again. Has
anyone out there done a WWW "treasure hunt" type of thing? I'm looking
for something where teens can search the internet for certain things
(trivia items, bits of information, whatever) and then enter their
answers to win prizes of some sort. If anyone can help me, please
respond to me directly, or post to the list if you think anyone else
will find it useful.
Thanks in advance!
Tammy Daubner
tlvdinoh@hotmail.com
Medina County District Library
Medina, OH
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:10:39 1997
From: suzette@mtlib.org
Subject: Re: High School Book Fairs
Hi! Just wanted to let you know that at my daughter's middle school,
a local book store provided an excellent book fair selection. I
would suggest you look around your community for an independent book
seller (if they are not extinct!) and ask them to handle your book
fair. From our experience with Barb over the years, she does a
terrific job - and helps out your local economy. If you have any
questions, please feel free to write and I or Barb will be glad to
answer your questions. Suzette Dussault YA Librarian, Missoula
Public Library, Missoula, Montana (the BEST little town in the West!)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:08:28 1997
From: Angela Reynolds <ajrcm@teleport.com>
ubject: Holiday programs/separation?
Walter Minkel brings up an interesting question, and one I have been
toying with. How do we present holiday programs without offending anyone?
And we DO have requests for them at my library. I was going to have kids
make stars and put them on a tree, but maybe we will just hang them up.
Also, how about reading Christmas and Hanukkah books at the same storytime?
(and if anyone knows of a good Kwaanza story, I'd love to have that title).
Is it better to just stay away from this holiday thing? Comments?
Angela Reynolds
Youth Services Librarian
West Slope Community Library
Portland, OR
ajrcm@teleport.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:03:13 1997
From: "Ginnie Hoover - Okolona Asst. Branch Mgr/Children's Librarian"
Subject: Snowglobes
I have heard of making snowglobes out of babyfood jars and karo syrup, but I
don't know what else it involves! If anyone out there has made snowglobes,
I would really like to know how it is done. TIA.
Ginnie Hoover
ginnie@louisville.lib.ky.us
Louisville Free Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:03:20 1997
From: Virginia Cooper <vcooper@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: XML and filters
Does anyone who has a better understanding of XML (extensible markup
language) than I, think that this advance may make filters actually do
what they are supposed to do? If so, does this remove the argument that
filters remove valuable information, too?
Can we be against them if they accurately remove only pornography? We
don't supply pornography in print form.
Virginia Cooper
Youth Services Librarian
Henrietta Public Library
vcooper@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:10:22 1997
From: katzen@juno.com (Lenora A Oftedahl)
Subject: Re: e-mail
I've wondered the same. The only thing that occurs to me is that
librarians fear other people will get as much mail as we do and tie up
the computers for hours. From what I've seen, a lot of people don't
ever sign up for lists and get little mail except from spammers.
Carolyn Caywood % Save the time of the Reader %
carolyn@infi.net % --Ranganathan's 4th Law %
http://www6.pilot.infi.net/~carolyn/ FAX:757-464-6741
936 Independence Blvd. Virginia Beach, VA 23455 757-460-7519
>
> Why do many libraries disallow e-mail access? Seems as if it could help a
> lot of people. Around here (Cleveland) you can sign onto Cleveland
> Free-Net for free, and you could use the library's computers for checking
> your mail, but for some reason, that's not entirely approved of.
>
> Bonita
>
> --
> Bonita Kale
> bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:03:06 1997
From: Vicky Schoenrock <vschoenr@nslsilus.org>
ubject: Puppet theatres and puzzles,,,
Case One- We are building a new childrens room. The architect has
included a puppet stage in the preschool/picture book area. When I
brought this up to my staff, they reacted in horror! I am not quite sure
why....but I promised them I would ask the collective wisdom about it. I
am looking for libraries that have puppet stages in the PUBLIC area (not
in the storyroom, safely locked away.) Does it work? Will children
refrain from pushing brother or sister through the stage? Will it become
an easy target for book throwing? AND how do you keep your (CHEAP)
puppets from being stolen? Any stories good or bad, please. I don;t need
stories about puppet stages in storyrooms.
Case Two- Puzzles. How do you store them? Does anyone have a great bag
that closes tightly so when susie returns it upside down, they don't fall
out? Does anyone use hanging bags to store their puzzles?
I thank you and my staff thanks you! I will try to post a reply from the
replies I get.
My favorite reference question- What goes around the world and stays in
the corner? (Otherwise known as a riddle). I also had a girl who had to
pick an animal to report on and picked a dragon.....What did they eat,
where did they live, etc.
Vicky Schoenrock, Youth Services Manager
Waukegan Public Library, 128 N. County St. Waukegan IL 60085
Phone: 847-623-2041 Fax:847-623-2092
vschoenr@nslsilus.org
***My opinions are my own, of course***
"Remain calm and share your bananas." - Anne Lamott
"If you can't say something good about a person,
come sit next to me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:10:28 1997
From: "Hudson, Sarah" <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>
Subject: Internet Accuracy
It is discouraging when you see teens writing a report straight off
the net.
It is also discouraging when you see the
"faith" that people of all ages put into the information found on the
internet, just
because it was found on the internet. And not to start back on teacher
bashing, but I find it discouraging when teachers tell their students: "Oh,
you
can find that on the internet" --without even checking to see if the
information
is there, or giving their students a clue on searching.
Because of the inaccuracies out there, our library published a short one page
flyer on this issue.
I was on a team that put together the flyer entitled "Evaluating Web Site
Content"
This flyer is to alert users that not everything on the web is accurate.
The points we included are:
Purpose: What is the site's purpose. Does the information appear
unbiased? Is the information there to inform? explain? persuade?
advertise?
Currency: Is the contents up-to-date ? When was the site last updated?
Authority: Who is the sponsor of the site? What are the goals/values of
the person or organization? What are the credentials of the author?
Documentation: Does the website provide well-documented information?
Are the sources of information cited? Is the content verifiable?
As a not so recent graduate of Library School, I have learned about the net
on the job. I applied the qualities of a good reference book to sources
on the net.
I'm not sure everyone reads our flyer, but we do have copies available all
the time. When we conduct seminars for new searchers, we always hand
these out.
Sarah
Sarah Hudson
Information Specialist
Independence Regional Library
Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County
shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us
Opinions are my own, and do not reflect those of the Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:04:04 1997
From: ALILIEN@ferg.lib.ct.us
Subject: Ornament ideas
I generally lurk on the internet instead of posting, but I felt that I needed
to respond to this post. I agree with Walter in that is it not approriate to
put a hannukah "ornament" on a Christmas tree. Personally, I stay away
from
religious holidays because there are too many of them and I am uncomfoatable
working with them. But I will say that I am Jewish and the idea of decorating
a tree for hannukah goes against everything I have been brought up with.
Regardless of how secular Christmas trees have become, they still represent
the birth of the Christ child in a celebration of a religious holiday in
which I do not believe. To have a child decorate a tree with Hannukah
ornamentssupports the misconceptions that Jewish children encounter every year
this time.
(What do you mean you don't have a tree?) If you feel that you want to do
a Kwanzaa/Hannukah/Christmas program, that is fine. Do something that is
unique to each holiday and hang them around the library. Hang the x-mas
ornaments on the tree.
I do not mean to "flame" the mailer of this post. I am sure this idea
was
planned with only good intent. However, I know that were I a patron there,
I would be uncomfortable with this idea, and perhaps the local Jewish
community shoudl be contacted to get ideas and feelings on this issue before
the program is set in stone. Perhaps they will feel differently than I do.
It is good to see so much education about different religions/ethnicities/
backgrounds etc. going on. I think that my children will be better educated
than my generation, and I was better educated than the one before me.
However, I think we need to remember to stay true to what we are educating
and not plan things that misinform. Despite the good education going on
today, I think kids growing up in homogonous communities are often sadly
unaware of the differences, simply because no one has ever explained them
to them.
I will get off of my soap-box now. I apologise if I have offended anyone,
that was truly not my intent. I thought that if I put in my two cents
it might help people see my side and perhaps prevent them from upsetting
a patron with view similar to my own.
Thanks for all of your patience and the length of this post.
--Amy Lilien
Ferguson Library, Turn of River Branch
Stamford, CT
alilien@ferg.lib.ct.us
These views are my own and do not reflect on my employer or place of work.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:10:05 1997
From: "Gale W. Sherman" <gale@poky.srv.net>
ubject: Magazines for Teen
What are the most popular magazines for teenagers in your library?
For you're help I'll post a composite list.
Thanks!
Gale
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
Children's Literature: Beyond Basals
http://www.beyondbasals.html
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
Gale W. Sherman / gale@poky.srv.net
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
Beyond Basals, Inc. * Early Childhood Librarian
4685 Flora Drive * Marshall Public Library
Pocatello, Idaho 83204 * 113 S. Garfield
* Pocatello, Idaho 83204
PHONE (208) 233-9717 * PHONE (208) 232-1263
FAX (208) 232-3603 * FAX (208) 232-9266
*~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~*
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:06:15 1997
From: "Linda Pitts" <LPITTS@stark.kent.edu>
Subject: Library Science Quote
Anne Nolan asked for a possible quote about the love of books &
reading. While this is not what she asked for, I thought with all
the discussion of intellectual freedom, you all would enjoy the
following quote from Robert Heinlein's "Have space suit - will
travel," published in 1958.
"Dad claims that library science is the foundation of all sciences
just as math is the key - and that we will survive or founder,
depending on how well the librarians do their job."
Linda Pitts
lpitts@stark.kent.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:07:12 1997
From: Tami Chumbley <tchumble@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: kidspeak
One of my favorites is the mother who came and was rushing her child
through the choosing process. As he continued to search she indicated
that she was very concerned about his interest in war and weapons. In
fact..."the one he wants to read now is Thirteen Ways to Sink a Sub!"
It
was all I could do to keep from laughing as I explained the content of
Jamie Gilson's book. What fun to hear such stories!
Tami Chumbley
Bettendorf Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:09:21 1997
From: "Karen L. Simonetti" <karensue@mcs.net>
ubject: Ornaments for the Holidays
On whatever day it was that I managed to find time to read PUBYAC, Walter
wrote regarding ornaments for a holiday tree:
>This idea, um, really bothers me. I've known a great many people who
>celebrate Hannukah in my life, & the message I've always received from
>them is that "Hanukkah is _not_ Christmas." Neither is Kwanzaa. By
putting
>a few ornaments that nod at H & K on a big Christmas tree, you're
sending
>a pretty clear message which holiday is the most important, & which is
>subordinate.
I won't "um" about this idea...it does really bother me. I don't think
ornaments on a Xmas tree is a good idea. I think that mixing the
traditional celebration of the holiday is confusing for children of both
faiths. Hanukkah is not a celebration akin to Xmas and it is just
coincidence that the 8 days of Hanukkah usually occur near Xmas. (Okay,
I'll admit it the "L" in my name is for Levine & my grandparents
actually
got married on Xmas so our family would have something to do that day!)
I do think it is nice to celebrate each of the holidays. I can appreciate
the "time & energy" sense of having the celebration of all three
days
together being easier for the library and staff. And the posted craft
ideas have been great! Its nice that libraries are doing something to mark
each holiday and let kids participate in the celebration. But as Walter
said so much clearer, its probably a good idea to have the "integrity"
of
each holiday stand on its own.
Karen...who yes, is the "nice Jewish girl" married to the nice Roman
Catholic Italian man...
Karen L. Simonetti
email: karensue@mcs.net
phone: 312.337.7114
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:11:57 1997
From: Dzierzbicki <dzierzbi@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: RE: IF
Just FYI. I was searching internet the other day for a ref. question on
a poem titled "Afterglow". One of the hits that came up was an erotic
site named AFTERGLOW. Would this have been filter if I had a filter and
erotic was on of the blocked words?
******************************************************************************
"But wherever they go , and whatever happens to them on the way, in that
enchanted place on the top of the Forest, a little boy and his bear
will always be playing." A.A. Milne
Monica A. Dzierzbicki dzierzbi@sublibsy.sls.lib.il.us
Children's Librarian (708)448-1530
Palos Park Library
Palos Park, Il
(formerly from Grande Prairie Lib., IL)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:13:15 1997
From: Jeanette Carolyn Larson <jlarson@tenet.edu>
Subject: Re: Filters and Intellectual Freedom and YAs
One of the techniques I use when considering difficult issues is to try
and find similar situations under different circumstances. I am no longer
in a public library (I'm the youth services consultant at the state
library) so I can consider issues without having to face down an angry
parent, but I have been there as well. In thinking about policies on
filtering and dealing with patrons who want to look at pornographic images
in very public areas, I think we need to consider how we would handle a
patron who was sitting in the magazine or other reading area very
publicly admiring the centerfold in a "men's" magazine? While the
patron
has the right to view the images, it is disruptive to do so in such a
public manner. Many libraries have "disruptive patron" policies that
deal with behaviors that are not appropriate. Even activities that are
permissable in most circumstances can be disruptive in other
circumstances. How would those of you who are in public libraries deal
with a patron reading his magazine in the children's area or right next to
the circulation desk? Can those same strategies be applied to Internet
viewing?
Jeanette Larson
Texas State Library
jlarson@tenet.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:31:50 1997
From: Jeanette Carolyn Larson <jlarson@tenet.edu>
Subject: CREW Method
Thanks for the promo on our manual, Susan. Actually the price is less
than $20 (I'm not at work and can't recall exactly but it is under $12
plus actual postage). We are also more than happy to grant permission for
larger libraries, library associations, or regional library organizations
to print copies for distribution to staff/members. We are not trying to
make a profit but have to get cost recovery for out of state requests
since we are state tax supported. We'll even send a camera ready copy
from which to print. Our experience has been that if you need more than
50 copies you can probably print your own copies for less.
To order copies of THE CREW METHOD (revised in 1995) contact
Anne.Ramos@tsl.state.tx.us or to request reprint permission, send your
request to me at jeanette.larson@tsl.state.tx.us indicating how many
copies you want to make and to whom they will be distributed.
When we revised CREW we added some information specifically for weeding
Juvenile materials. I would like to get feedback from those who are using
the manual so that we can add even more in the next edition (it took 16
years to get a second edition but I don't want it to be that long before
the third).
Jeanette Larson
Manager, Continuing Education and Consulting Services
Texas State Library and Archives Commission
P.O. Box 12927
Austin, TX 78711
512-463-5456
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 17:42:59 1997
From: Kim Crowley <crowley@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us>
Subject: Positions extended
The closing date for a Lead Librarian for Reference and Adult Services
and Lead Librarian for Children's Services at the City of Fort Collins
Public Library has been extended to December 5, 1997.
Position Title: Lead Librarian - Reference & Adult Services - Job #97-128
Reference & Adult Services
Library
Salary Range: $2,188-$3,011 per month. Salaries are paid bi-weekly
Closing Date: December 5, 1997
Selection Process: Applications and resumes will be reviewed, and
selected candidates will be invited for an oral interview.
Position Title: Lead Librarian - Children's Services - Job #97-126
Library Children's Services
Salary Range: $2,188 - $3,011 per month. Salaries are paid bi-weekly.
Closing Date: Deccember 5, 1997
Selection Process: Applications and resumes will be reviewed, and
selected candidates will be invited for an oral interview.
If you are interested in the full job description (posted here on
November 3) please let me know and I will forward to you.
Kim Crowley, Systems Administrator
Fort Collins Public Library
201 Peterson Street phone: 970-221-6662
Fort Collins, CO 80524 fax: 970-224-6068
crowley@libsys.ci.fort-collins.co.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 18:31:54 1997
From: rdukelow@colosys.net (Rosemary Dukelow)
ubject: Student intern
I'm looking for a student intern at our library in Steamboat Springs,
Colorado. Please respond to me directly. Thank you. rdukelow@colosys.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 18:46:47 1997
From: "Children's librarians" <children@mtlib.org>
ubject: Stumper Solved: Penguin
Thanks everyone for the many responses we received to the penguin stumper.
The book appears to be The Penguin that Hated the Cold, by Barbara Brenner,
part of a Disney series. Random House 1973.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 19:05:09 1997
From: frankio@dsl.rhilinet.gov (Frank Iacono)
ubject: Titles Wanted
In preparation for a Young Adult Round Table meeting on "Preparing for
College or Employment," I would appreciate receiving any book or CD-ROM
titles that
folks would recommend. Many thanks, Frank Iacono.
////////////////////////////////////////
Frank Iacono
Office of Library & Information Services
Dept. of Administration
1 Capitol Hill
Providence, RI 02908
(401)277-2728, ext 116
(401)277-4195 (FAX)
frankio@dsl.rhilinet.gov
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 19:20:09 1997
From: "Sandy Whitmer" <whitmer@hotmail.com>
Subject: Stumper: frog school picture book
A patron is looking for a picture book about a girl frog who must go to
school to learn how to jump, croak, etc. He believes the teacher's name
may be Mrs. Polliwog.
Please reply to me directly. Thanks in advance for your collective
assistance.
Sandy Whitmer
Youth Services Librarian
Bartlett Public Library District
800 S. Bartlett Rd.
Bartlett, IL 60103
(630) 837-3348
whitmer@hotmail.com
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 19:30:07 1997
From: "F. Brautigam" <fbrautig@nslsilus.org>
ubject: Stumper: Barns
A patron remembers a book about a farmer who keeps building bigger and
better barns, much to the frustration of his wife who finally moves into
the last barn because it's nicer than the house.
Our staff person who handled the question looked under obvious subjects
in >Fiction, Folklore and Fantasy< while the patron was present, and
nothing there rang a bell. The patron is fairly sure it was original
fiction, rather than a folktale.
Please send any tips directly to me, and thanks in advance for your help.
Faith Brautigam
Gail Borden Public Library, Elgin, IL 60120
E Mail: fbrautig@nslsilus.org Phone: 847-742-2411 Fax: 847-742-0485
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 19:34:03 1997
From: Holly Willett <willett@rowan.edu>
ubject: Job announcement--Rowan University
I am posting this announcement to several listservs, and I apologize to any
who get duplicates. Interested persons may also contact me at
willett@rowan.edu for more information about the position.
>ROWAN UNIVERSITY
>
>Faculty Position - Library Education
>(School and Public Librarianship with a Media Emphasis)
>
>
>Full Time - Tenure Track; Assistant Professor
>
>Starting Date: September 1, 1998
>
>Application Deadline: February 1, 1998
>
>The Secondary Education/Foundations of Education
>Department, Rowan University, seeks applicants for a full
>time - tenure track faculty position in Library Education
>(School and Public Librarianship Program
>
>The successful candidate will teach graduate courses in
>school and public librarianship and media and supervise
>Library Media practicum students in school and public
>libraries. She/he will also advise students in this
>masters level graduate program.
>
>The department seeks applicants with a doctorate in Library
>Science/Media or a related field. (ABD's must successfully
>complete the dissertation defense and all requirements for
>the doctorate prior to September 1, 1998.) The candidate
>must also have a Master's Degree in Library
>Science or Library Education and recent experience in
>a public or school library. Experiences should
>reflect knowledge and practical applications regarding
>current trends and technologies in the field of media and
>library science
>
>Rowan University is an affirmative action/equal opportunity
>employer. Applications from women, minorities, and
>physically challenged individuals are strongly encouraged.
>
>How to Apply:
>
>Applicants should send a full resume, supportive materials,
>and the names, addresses, telephone numbers of at least
>three references to:
>
>Dr.John V. Gallagher, Chair
>Department of Secondary Education/Foundations of
>Education
>Rowan University
>201 Mullica Hill Road
>Glassboro NJ 08028-1701
>
>609-256-4754
>
>Why New Jersey?
>
>New Jersey, the Garden State, is NOT all urban. Rowan is
>located in the southern part of the state, mostly rural
>with bedroom communities for the greater Delaware Valley
>and the Philadelphia area. Within five minutes of campus,
>one is in beautiful farm country, apple and peach orchards,
>and forested areas. Philadelphia, 17 miles to the
>northeast, provides all of the advantages of a major city
>with many historical and cultural sites and entertainment,
>business, and transportation amenities. One can reach New
>York City, Baltimore or Washington, DC in about two hours.
>Atlantic City is only 40 miles from campus.
>
>Rowan has the best of rural/suburban living with nearby
>metropolitan area services. Excellent housing is available,
>affordable and reasonable. Taxes are lower than most areas
>in the northeast.
>
>Why Rowan?
>
>Rowan University provides exciting opportunities for all
>connected with this community of scholars. The Rowan
>Vision includes the recent transition to university status
>in 1997, the admission of the first class to the new School
>of Education Doctorate in Educational Leadership, and the
>growth in the size and quality of our student body. The
>Rowan family gift of $100 million places Rowan University
>endowment among the highest in the nation and allows the
>college to implement new programs, faculty development, and
>special events of importance to the education of Rowan
>students. The new Rowan College of Engineering accepted its
>first class in 1996 and the new College of Engineering
>Building is under construction. Rowan University is on the
>move to provide educational leadership in the southern New
>Jersey area as we enter the new century.
>
>Rowan's College of Education, fully accredited by NCATE,
>provides quality undergraduate and graduate programs in
>elementary/early childhood teacher education, special
>education, reading education, secondary education, library
>education, educational leadership and other programs.
>
>We invite you to visit the ROWAN HOMEPAGE on the world wide
>web to find out more about our community of scholars. We
>are located at:
>
> http://www.rowan.edu/
>
>For further information or questions, please contact:
>
>Dr. John V. Gallagher, Chair
>Secondary Education/Foundations of Education
>
>609-256-4754
>
>or please e-mail to both:
>
>home e-mail > gallagher@snip.net
>
>and
>
>college e-mail > gallagher@rowan.edu
>
>FAX 609-256-4918
>
>
>John V. Gallagher
>Secondary Education/Foundations of Education
>College of Education
>Ext. 4754
>home e-mail> gallagher@snip.net
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 19:35:14 1997
From: Robyn Lupa <rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us>
Subject: Stumper-Dinosaurs
Hi!
A patron is looking for a fictional book on dinosaurs that has detailed
artwork, little to no words, and portrays dinosaurs in human situations
such as driving, skiing, hang gliding, etc. This may have been part
of a series of 2-4 books with yellow covers, probably published in the
late 70's-early 80's. The artwork is busy, similar to the "Where's
Waldo" books.
We have checked our catalog, First Search, Books in Print, and other
reference sources with no luck.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Robyn Lupa rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us
Children's Librarian (303) 232-9507
Jefferson County Public Library
10200 W. 20th Avenue
Lakewood, CO 80215
t the site, and if you have a sale we don't know about, fill out
the online form. Tell us as soon as you plan the sale, no matter when it is
to be held. We will keep the information in our database, and will place it
on the web site close to the date.
We are getting many hits, and I have been told this is being reflected in
the attendance at your sales.
Thanks and best wishes,
Helen & Tom Oram
BAYSYS Publishing, publishers of: BOOK SALES in America, Your Guide to Used
Book Bargains
PO Box 452, Hudson,MA 01749 Tel: 508-562-3400 Fax: 508-562-1233
e-mail: publisher@Book-Sales-in-America.com Web page:
http://www.Book-Sales-in-America.com/
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Nov 16 19:49:24 1997
From: Robyn Lupa <rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us>
Subject: Stumper-Dinosaurs
Hi!
A patron is looking for a fictional book on dinosaurs that has detailed
artwork, little to no words, and portrays dinosaurs in human situations
such as driving, skiing, hang gliding, etc. This may have been part
of a series of 2-4 books with yellow covers, probably published in the
late 70's-early 80's. The artwork is busy, similar to the "Where's
Waldo" books.
We have checked our catalog, First Search, Books in Print, and other
reference sources with no luck.
Thanks in advance for your help!
Robyn Lupa rlupa@jefferson.lib.co.us
Children's Librarian (303) 232-9507
Jefferson County Public Library
10200 W. 20th Avenue
Lakewood, CO 80215
t the site, and if you have a sale we don't know about, fill out
the online form. Tell us as soon as you plan the sale, no matter when it is
to be held. We will keep the information in our database, and will place it
on the web site close to the date.
We are getting many hits, and I have been told this is being reflected in
the attendance at your sales.
Thanks and best wishes,
Helen & Tom Oram
BAYSYS Publishing, publishers of: BOOK SALES in America, Your Guide to Used
Book Bargains
PO Box 452, Hudson,MA 01749 Tel: 508-562-3400 Fax: 508-562-1233
e-mail: publisher@Book-Sales-in-America.com Web page:
http://www.Book-Sales-in-America.com/
Featured at: Librarians' Site du Jour April 17
<http://sashimi.wwa.com/~jayhawk/sitejour.html>
"Library Media & PR" <http://www.ssdesign.com/librarypr/>
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