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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:45 1998
From: roger hall <rdhall@iclub.org>
ubject: Pooh's Birthday Celebration
I have planned a Pooh Birthday Party. I had anticipated only younger
children would register and so had not set age guidelines; however, I have
discovered that at least half of the young people registered are 9 and
older. I am in need of a craft and/or game or other activity that these
older students will enjoy. Thank you.
Anne Hall
rdhall@iclub.org
Anne & Roger Hall
Kentucky
rdhall@iclub.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:45 1998
From: "The Gareiss Family Of Centerville" <Gareiss@infocom.com>
Subject: Series
Hi
I'm getting ready to start BWI's standing order plan for paperback series.
We have several that we will be continuing but I would like to add a few
new series to our collection. Does anyone have a must have series to
recommend? I'm looking for Juvenile and YA. What about the historical and
internet series? Are they hot anywhere? The series don't have to be new
to the market, just new to us, so any series you have that are popular with
the kids is a help. Looking forward to your comments.
TIA
Connie Gareiss
Centerville Center Township Public Library
gareiss@infocom.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:03:16 1998
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: youth internet access
Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Susan C Melancon wrote:
> Charity and censorship should begin at home and in the community. The
> community should reenforce what is learned at home, otherwise those things
> learned at home would eventually become irrelevant. Censorship is not a
> dirty word. If fact, it is quite wholesome. Each of us censors what we
> read, eat
> and do everyday. This list, more than most others, should encourage the
> protection and edification of the young, impressionable minds we serve in
> our libraries. Librarians should not be political activists, but public
> servants. The First Amendment has stood erect for some 200 years now
> and it does not need librarians to protect it. The children do!
>
Oh ye gods and little green apples. Heinlein was right. People DO have
an irresistable urge to be fools. Ma'am, do you seriously believe that
individual liberty - of any kind - is likely to remain intact if we
don't safeguard it? I can't tell from your sig. if you're a government
employee - but if so the parents in your community should be up in arms.
You, madam, presume to dictate to them what they may and may not share with
their children?
You may believe that liberty is easily and happily sacrificed to one
woman's idea of safety - and desire to teach the children in your
community the same by example - but I'm still proud to be a citizen of the
U.S. - and as a librarian one of the integral defenders of that society's
nearly unique constitutional protections.
Kirsten Edwards "Democracy is three wolves and a sheep
kirstedw@kcls.org deciding on what to have for dinner.
Liberty is the wolves arriving to find
a well-informed, well armed bovine."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:45 1998
From: Joel Rane <jsmog@earthlink.net>
ubject: Our burden is lifted!
At 11.16 01/03/1998 -0500, you wrote:
>Charity and censorship should begin at home and in the community. The
>community should reenforce what is learned at home, otherwise those things
>learned at home would eventually become irrelevant. Censorship is not a
>dirty word. If fact, it is quite wholesome. Each of us censors what we
>read, eat and do everyday. This list, more than most others, should
encourage the
>protection and edification of the young, impressionable minds we serve in
>our libraries. Librarians should not be political activists, but public
>servants. The First Amendment has stood erect for some 200 years now
>and it does not need librarians to protect it. The children do!
>
>Susan C. Melancon
>School of Information and Library Studies
>University at Buffalo
>Buffalo, New York 14206-1020
I have read many interesting arguments regarding censorship, pro and con,
adult and juvenile, and yours is novel. So librarians do not need to
protect the First Amendment? Phew! I'll sleep better at night, knowing
that others will take that responsibility off my shoulders. Yeah, the
Government and the ACLU can hash that one out. I'll just concentrate on
usurping parental responsibility for the kids in my library, hell, the
parents around here are too busy working to care, they leave their kids
here until 6.00 anyway. Hey kid, ever read "Daddy's Roommate"?
Seriously, you need to look up "censorship" in your Webster's. There
was
nothing in there, the last time I checked, about eating,
"wholesomeness",
or about turning 18 either. There are no ambiguities about censorship in
the Bill of Rights, the Library Bill of Rights, the United Nations
Convention on the Rights of the Child, or the UNESCO Public Library
Manifest. The right of access to information is a basic human right, and
as children's librarians maybe we should promote the idea that children
have human rights.
Hoping that you are not, as appears, a library school professor,
Joel J. Rane, Children's Librarian
Exposition Park Dr. Mary McLeod Bethune Regional Branch
Los Angeles Public Library, Los Angeles, California
http://home.earthlink.net/~jsmog/
_______________________________________________________________
"When the train left the station, it had two lights on behind,
the blue one was my baby, and the red one was my mind." -- Robert Johnson
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:51 1998
From: Kabil <Kabil@aol.com>
Subject: family reading month
Any great ideas for Family Reading Month?--In addition to having Families
sign up--we like to have weekly activities. We usually have some gimmick with
the sign up. We could use some new ideas--Thanks. kabil
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:02:44 1998
From: Tim Capehart <tdcape0@pop.uky.edu>
Subject: RE: youth internet access
This in response to Susan Melancon's recent post:
Who's idea of what is appropriate shall we apply to the community at large?
Shall we go with the Muslim ideas? Only have books in which women of a certain
age are shown with their faces covered? No of course not. What occurs in the
home is all but irrelevant to us since we serve so many different homes.
Your idea of what is appropriate is different from mine. As public librarians
and advocates for youth we are responsible to make available to children and
their parents a variety of materials. Some of those materials will be
inappropriate to some families. It is the responsibility of the parent to
police what their children have access to. We as librarians should never
presume to act in the place of parents. We should never act as censors for the
whole community. We select materials that are quality even if they are
"inappropriate" to our values system. Every library in the country
should own
or have access to Daddy's Roommate, Heather Has Two Mommies, et al. regardless
of how the religious right or the selecting librarian feels about those books.
There is an ever increasing number of families who need those books in
communities across the country. This same idea applies to internet access. Here
in Lexington, parents may bar their children from accessing the internet...they
may NOT bar other people's children from accessing the internet.
Children and families of all types need protection from censors and access to
the information they need and want. As public servants we need to serve the
PUBLIC, which is not a homogeneous entity. We do not need to force our morals
or the morals of a section of our service community on the whole service
community.
Censorship is not a wholesome word.
Timothy Capehart
tdcape0@pop.uky.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:48 1998
From: Dawn Rutherford <rutherfo@chipublib.org>
Subject: Re: youth internet access
On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Susan C Melancon wrote:
> ... Librarians should not be political activists, but public
> servants. The First Amendment has stood erect for some 200 years now
> and it does not need librarians to protect it. The children do!
In my personal opinion, the best way to serve the public, is to fight for
its rights and service its needs to the best of our abilities. By no
means need these things be exclusive.
And the best protection we can give children is to give them a broad
education and teach them evaluative skills which will prepare them to deal
with whatever they may encounter in their lives. Of course this means
giving them what they need when they need it, and not exposing them to too
much too soon...but once they seek out information on their own, be it the
internet or the stacks, assuring that they can find what they feel they
need...isn't that what being a librarian is about?
Of course, my opinions are my own...
Dawn Rutherford
rutherfo@chipublib.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:46 1998
From: "M. Neiman" <mellifur@tiac.net>
ubject: Re: youth internet access
> Each of us censors what we read, eat and do everyday.
Ah, but isn't that the point? Each of us censors what WE read, etc. every
day. One man's beets are another man's potatoes. And it's my brothers and
sisters-in-law's responsibiIity to determine what they want their children
to read and see. One sister-in-law won't let her children watch the Arthur
series on PBS because her daughter started picking up some habits from D.W.
that she doesn't like. She's in the minority, I think, and I wouldn't want
to see Marc Brown's books pulled off the shelf because *she* thinks they
are teaching children the wrong things.
I would much rather provide full access to the Internet (and other sources)
and allow parents to limit their children from taking advantage of it than
provide limited access and have all children prevented from taking full
advantage.
Miriam Neiman
mellifur@tiac.net
>Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:05:14 -0500 (EST)
>From: Susan C Melancon <melanco@acsu.buffalo.edu>
>Subject: Re: youth internet access
>
>Charity and censorship should begin at home and in the community. The
>community should reenforce what is learned at home, otherwise those things
>learned at home would eventually become irrelevant. Censorship is not a
>dirty word. If fact, it is quite wholesome. Each of us censors what we
>read, eat
>and do everyday. This list, more than most others, should encourage the
>protection and edification of the young, impressionable minds we serve in
>our libraries. Librarians should not be political activists, but public
>servants. The First Amendment has stood erect for some 200 years now
>and it does not need librarians to protect it. The children do!
>
>
>Susan C. Melancon
>School of Information and Library Studies
>University at Buffalo
>Buffalo, New York 14206-1020
M. Neiman
mellifur@tiac.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:48 1998
From: Peter Butts <pbutts@edcen.ehhs.cmich.edu>
Subject: Re: Internet Filters
>
I've mentally flirted with supporting the use of Internet filters off
and on over the past year and I can come up with many compelling
arguments in favor of them. As a school library media specialist, rather
than a public librarian, the most compelling for me is to allay the
fears of many of my teachers who might not let students in their
classrooms have access at all without some protection, even though our
Technology Code of Ethics clearly places the responsibility for mis-use
on the student.
What brings me back to opposing filters? Mostly it's the arguments of
pro-filter people. Chuck, with all due respect, what you are afraid of
is problem patron behavior, not Internet access. Would you accept the
behavior of a patron who was flashing the pages of the _Sports
Illustrated_ swimsuit edition in the faces of other patrons? Of course,
not. And I doublt you'd remove the material from the collection. What
you need is an Acceptable Use Policy and a way to enforce publically
acceptable behavior.
If I'm all wet, please tell me so....the debate so far is not
convincing.
-Peter Butts
> Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:31:34 -0500
> From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
> Subject: Re: Internet terminals
>
> I, personally, think that creationism,
> PU>astrology, ear-piercing, and long fingernails are all entirely
> yuckky--far
> PU>yukkier than pornography, and a couple of them likely to be more
> dangerous,
> PU>too. But I don't refuse to look for books on such topics.
>
> PU>Bonita Kale
> PU>bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu
>
> I would not quarrel with your deffinition of odious subjects; your
> discernment is commendable. Distasteful though they may be, however,
>
> patrons reading books about such topics are most unlilkely to distress
>
> other patrons, whereas patrons viewing all that there is to see of
> Pamela Anderson are likely to considerably stress many of their
> fellow
> patrons and send them away thinking very unhappy thoughts about the
> library and it's mission. Heretical though it may sound, I think it
> may
> behoove us on occasion to distinguish between patron's informational
> needs and their recreational inclinations, especially when their
> pursuit
> of the latter in our institutions may well cause other users to stay
> away. Do we need to remain committed to doing all that we can to
> meet
> our patrons informational needs, even the ones on subjects that we're
> uncomfortable with? You bet. Should we feel obligated to make
> available
> to adolescents for their recreational enjoyment visual materials that
>
> they couldn't watch at the movies unless they were accompanied by a
> parent ? Now I've got serious doubts, both as a parent and a
> librarian.'Tis a muddle of truly impressive proportions, my friends.
>
> Chuck Schacht
> Romeo Disstrict Library
> Romeo, Michigan
>
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* East Middle School * another man spills." *
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:02:05 1998
From: Harriett Smith <harriett@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Subject: snowglobes: the reality (fwd)
ah, snowglobes....or so we hoped. following instructions posted to this
list, several folks at my library tried to create holiday snowglobes. one
of them asked me to forward this account of their experiences to the list.
please reply to her or the list, not to me.
harriett
University of Oregon Library -- Technical Services
harriett@darkwing.uoregon.edu
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Mon, 22 Dec 1997 17:29:38 -0800 (PST)
From: Jean Margit Murphy <murphyj@OREGON.UOREGON.EDU>
Subject: snowglobes: the reality
several of us tried the instructions for snowglobes posted on this list
last month, but it didn't work. first, the glitter doesn't sink, it floats
-- it's made out of plastic, these days. So the craft store people helped
me find some shiny confetti-like stuff that almost works, but has a
tendency to clump. it's called "Jimmy Jem's Party sparklez" and it's
pretty ugly, but it's better than nothing: only SOME of it floats.
second, the hot glue that we used to glue plastic figures to the metal
lids of our jars, doesn't hold. Plastic on plastic seems to work -- so
far -- but not plastic on metal. it holds for a day or two, but then gives
way.
and we had a hard time avoiding bubbles -- we finally did the entire
process under water, by submersing jar and lid in a big bowl of water, as
we put on the lid -- but then some of the cornsyrup/water/glitter mixture
floats out into the bowl.
all in all it was an amusing experience but an artistic and technical
failure. i'd like to try it with better materials, if anyone has an idea
where to find better "snow" that sinks, not floats, and glue that
holds.
jean murphy
eugene oregon
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:03:05 1998
From: dorthybr@cadvantage.com (Dorothy M. Broderick)
ubject: The First Amendment
Susan Melancon is certainly entitled to her opinion, but a couple
of erroneous assumptions in her message need clarifying. First, she assumes
that all families have precisely the same set of values. That is far from
true and no library can possibly decide which of the family values it will
give priority to. I suggest reading Donna Crossland's letter in the January
American Libraries for an excellent discussion by one mother about values
and how they are instilled.
The second assumption is that the First Amendment does just fine
without libraries. Two things wrong here: 1) the assumption ignores how
much libraries need the First Amendment to remain in business; 2) the First
Amendment always needs support from as many individuals and organizations
as it can acquire. Maybe reading a little history, American that is, will
remind people of why we have the Bill of Rights in the first place. The
colonists were sick and tired of government telling them what they could
think, say, publish, and read, not to mention how to worship.
For people who think censorship isn't a dirty word, I suggest
becoming ministers. The school of theology is a better place for imposing a
set of values on others.
Dorothy M. Broderick
Dorothy M. Broderick Don't worry. Be crabby.
2025 Prairie Lane Maxine
Emporia, KS 66801
(316) 342-9277
(316) 342-6391 (also fax)
e-mail: dorthybr@cadvantage.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:02:18 1998
From: Cathy Sullivan Seblonka <cathys@uproc.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: wholesome censorship
Hi. In her posting of Jan. 1, Susan Melancon stated "Librarians should
not be political activists, but public servants. The First Amendment has
stood erect for some 200 years now and it does not need librarians to
protect it. The children do!"
I disagree. Librarians (and everybody else) need to be political
activists. Many of the rights that have been gained over the
course of history have come as a result of people working together to
improve life for the bulk of the population. Sometimes this working
together takes the form of political activitism. If I had been a
librarian a little less than 100 years ago, should I not have been
actively working for the right of women to vote? If my community decides
that the public schools don't need school librarians or that the public
library is no longer relevant, should I not get out there and work
actively to change these ideas?
More than 50% of our tax dollars go to support the military. Just think
of how much one nuclear submarine or a new bomber costs. How many
school and public libraries could be improved if the money spent on just
one sub or plane went to libraries instead? Should I keep quiet about
this situation? Or work actively to change it?
What about our environment? Shouldn't librarians care about it and work
to protect it? If we don't improve the care of our environment what will
our future bring? And the poor. Don't we care that people are hungry and
lack work that brings them dignity and a living wage and health care
coverage? If they had the basics perhaps they would then have the time
and energy to be library advocates.
These issues are only a few that librarians (and others) need to be
actively involved with. Our First Amendment does indeed need active
protection. Look at situations in countries all over the globe in this
last century. How many people lost their right to express their opinions
freely? How many Germans remained good and loyal "public servants"
rather
than risk speaking out about 60 years ago? Look at what is happening to
people in some Central American countries who teach the poor how to read.
Many have been and are still losing their lives in their work to bring the
power of the written word to those without an education. Ask them how
they feel about censorship.
It is one of our jobs as parents to discuss with our children what they
are reading. If they bring home something from the library that we don't
want them to read we can sit down with them and discuss it. These are
teaching moments. I respect your right to read with your children what
you wish for them to read, but please, allow my children the freedom to
read what they want. If I don't agree with my children's reading tastes,
I will do something about it.
So sorry for the long rant, but I really believe that everyone of us must
work actively to maintain and improve the world.
Cathy Sullivan Seblonka
Youth Services Coordinator
Peter White Public Library
217 N. Front St.
Marquette, MI 49855
(906) 228-9510
fax (906) 228-7315
e-mail: cathys@uproc.lib.mi.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:02:58 1998
From: "Gary L. Fraser III" <gfraser@intermind.net>
Subject: webpages
On the subject of webpages...I know many of you have kid's pages, as we do.
But, are there any of you that have separate pages for children and for
Young Adult? Also, do any of your libraries have pages devoted to homework
help and/or reference aimed at those in middle and high school? Please
respond to me privately and include the web address so that I may check
them out. Thanks.
Gary
Gary L. Fraser III
gfraser@intermind.net; www.hdpl.org
Henderson District Public Libraries
280 Water Street
Henderson, NV 89015
and Internet Public Library; www.ipl.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:49 1998
From: Carolyn Caywood <carolyn@infi.net>
Subject: Re: youth internet access
I find it fascinating that Ms Melancon believes the First Amendment is
so powerful it can survive without our support but families are so
weak that we must censor in order to keep them relevant.
Carolyn Caywood % Save the time of the Reader %
carolyn@infi.net % --Ranganathan's 4th Law %
http://www6.pilot.infi.net/~carolyn/ FAX:757-464-6741
936 Independence Blvd. Virginia Beach, VA 23455 757-460-7519
>
> Charity and censorship should begin at home and in the community. The
> community should reenforce what is learned at home, otherwise those things
> learned at home would eventually become irrelevant. Censorship is not a
> dirty word. If fact, it is quite wholesome. Each of us censors what we
> read, eat
> and do everyday. This list, more than most others, should encourage the
> protection and edification of the young, impressionable minds we serve in
> our libraries. Librarians should not be political activists, but public
> servants. The First Amendment has stood erect for some 200 years now
> and it does not need librarians to protect it. The children do!
>
>
> Susan C. Melancon
> School of Information and Library Studies
> University at Buffalo
> Buffalo, New York 14206-1020
>
> On Sat, 27 Dec 1997, Toni Grow - Baldwin wrote:
>
> > I'd like to give a hearty cheer to both Joel Rane and Chuck Schacht
for
> > their recent postings regarding freedom of access to information for
ALL
> > library users.
> >
> > One of my favorite quotes is Clare Booth Luce's comment on censorship:
> > "Censorship, like charity, should begin at home. Unlike charity,
it
> > should end there."
> >
> > Toni Grow
> > Young Adult Librarian
> > Baldwin Public Library
> > Birmingham, MI
> > So many books, so little time!
> >
> >
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 11:01:46 1998
From: mchelton@cadvantage.com (Mary K Chelton)
ubject: Adolescent "Recreational" Interests
Mr. Schact makes two interesting claims about adolescent
"recreational"
Internet use. First of all, he assumes that it is "recreational," not
"informational," that wonderful dichotomy librarians invoke when they
want
to disapprove of something, (dare I say "something kids like") and
secondly, that these "recreational" uses will keep people away from
the
library. I'd like to know his proof of the second claim. The first one I've
heard for years.
Mary K. Chelton
On Dec. 30, Chuck Schact wrote, in response to Bonita Kale's post:
Date: Tue, 30 Dec 1997 16:31:34 -0500
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: Re: Internet terminals
I, personally, think that creationism,
PU>astrology, ear-piercing, and long fingernails are all entirely yuckky--far
PU>yukkier than pornography, and a couple of them likely to be more
dangerous,
PU>too. But I don't refuse to look for books on such topics.
PU>Bonita Kale
PU>bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu
I would not quarrel with your deffinition of odious subjects; your
discernment is commendable. Distasteful though they may be, however,
patrons reading books about such topics are most unlilkely to distress
other patrons, whereas patrons viewing all that there is to see of
Pamela Anderson are likely to considerably stress many of their fellow
patrons and send them away thinking very unhappy thoughts about the
library and it's mission. Heretical though it may sound, I think it may
behoove us on occasion to distinguish between patron's informational
needs and their recreational inclinations, especially when their pursuit
of the latter in our institutions may well cause other users to stay
away. Do we need to remain committed to doing all that we can to meet
our patrons informational needs, even the ones on subjects that we're
uncomfortable with? You bet. Should we feel obligated to make available
to adolescents for their recreational enjoyment visual materials that
they couldn't watch at the movies unless they were accompanied by a
parent ? Now I've got serious doubts, both as a parent and a
librarian.'Tis a muddle of truly impressive proportions, my friends.
Chuck Schacht
Romeo Disstrict Library
Romeo, Michigan
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Mary K. Chelton PhD
Assistant Professor (+25 years of public library experience)
School of Library & Information Management
Emporia State University
1200 Commercial
Emporia, KS 66801
work: (36) 341-5071
home: (316) 342-9277
fax/home: (316) 342-6391
email: mchelton@cadvantage.com
"Always make new mistakes."
-Esther Dyson, RELEASE 2.0
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 13:56:06 1998
From: Barb Scott <scottba@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Thanks for Stumper Information!
MANY THANKS to the many who responded to my stumper about the cat
family who was nervous about being invited to dinner because they thought
they would be the dinner. The title and author are Chato's Kitchen by
Gary Soto.
My teacher was very excited and very impressed!
Again, many thanks to all who took the time to respond!
Barbara Scott, Children's Librarian
Bucyrus Public Library
scottba@oplin.lib.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 13:56:06 1998
From: "Marianne Vandenbergen"
<MVANDENBERGEN@everest.acpl.lib.in.us>
Subject: Position Available--Allen County Public Library
December 10, 1997
POSITION AVAILABLE
Children's Librarian (full-time)
Dupont Branch
Allen County Public Library
RESPONSIBILITIES: Assist patrons in locating materials and
information. Provide readers' advisory to both adults and children.
Develop, plan, and actively carry out a program of activities for
children, including storytelling, puppetry, craft sessions, and other
events to support the library's mission. Assist in collection
development. Lead other staff in providing a warm and energetic
program of services for children and adults. Visit schools to talk
about programs available at the library. Encourage participation in
the summer reading program and provide library tours and special
programs or classes tailored to visiting groups of children. Serve
on system-wide committees.
MINIMUM QUALIFICATIONS: ALA/MLS degree and one year's library
experience. Strong interpersonal communication skills for working
with both children and adults. Strong interest in and knowledge of
children's literature. Keen ability to listen actively to patrons and
interpret their questions in such a way that they receive what they
need. Genuine liking and understanding of children and the general
public served. Basic knowledge of computer fundamentals (Windows and
Mac) and CD-ROM products. Analytical ability sufficient for
analyzing the community's information and material needs and planning
to meet those needs with programs, materials, and reference service.
Ability to work day, evening and weekend hours. Friendliness,
enthusiasm, energy, initiative, resourcefulness, tact, good judgment
and a sense of humor.
COMPENSATION: Range minimum is $28,129. Library-paid single
membership HMO program, dental insurance, life insurance, and long-
term disability plan. Cumulative sick leave. Library-paid retirement
fund. Personal business leave. Four weeks vacation. Deferred
compensation plan. Federal credit union. Free parking. Employee
assistance program. Relocation allowance. Optional term life
insurance, flexible spending account, or accident/sickness disability
insurance. Long-term care insurance.
APPLICATION: Letter of qualifications, resume, and the names of three
work references to Human Resources, at 900 Webster Street, Fort
Wayne, IN 46802, or e-mail to cholly@everest.acpl.lib.in.us. Further
information is available on our homepage: http://www.acpl.lib.in.us.
Equal Opportunity Employer
Marianne H. Vandenbergen
Secretary/Receptionist
Human Resources
Allen County Public Library
900 Webster Street
Fort Wayne, IN 46802
(219) 421-1230
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:07:43 1998
From: Tracey Firestone <tfiresto@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: wholesome censorship
> I disagree. Librarians (and everybody else) need to be political
> activists.
I agree and disagree at the same time. I believe (and let me stress that
this is IMVHO) everyone should be a political activist but I do not
believe that as librarians we are under any moral obligation to do so.
There is a line between the "political scene" that effects our lives
as
humans and the politics that impact out lives as professionals. The
latter we should work to change but through organizations like ALA.
Become a member of the professional groups that share your goals and work
through them.
> If I had been a librarian a little less than 100 years ago, should I not
> have been actively working for the right of women to vote?
As a human, yes. As a "librarian" utilizing collection development
(and
other means within the library) as a tool to sway the public toward your
view, no.
> If my community decides that the public schools don't need school
> librarians or that the public library is no longer relevant, should I
> not get out there and work actively to change these ideas?
With this and the other examples which impact the library profession I
believe that from 9-5 (minus a lunch break) I am an employee and it is
not my place to bring in politics. From 5-9... it's my game and I'll
do everything in my power (as a private citizen) to bring about change.
Don't get me wrong, I will have materials reflecting my view in the
collection but I will also have materials representing the "other"
view.
FWIW, I believe that if someone can gather my personal views (on any
subject) from my collection or dealing with me at the reference desk then
I am doing something wrong.
> So sorry for the long rant, but I really believe that everyone of us must
> work actively to maintain and improve the world.
Don't apologize for saying what you feel. I believe the same things
that you seem to, but I think your passion for political change and
political voice is getting mixed in with your passion for providing
excellent library service.
Tracey
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tracey Firestone MLS Suffolk Cooperative
Young Adult Specialist Library System
tfiresto@suffolk.lib.ny.us 627 N. Sunrise Service Rd
Phone: (516) 286-1600 Bellport, NY 11713-1540
FAX: (516) 286-1647
If there I can't find materials in my
collection which offend me -
then I'm doing my job wrong.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:07:50 1998
From: Robin Del Guidice <guidicr@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Re: youth internet access
On Thu, 1 Jan 1998, Susan C Melancon wrote:
> Charity and censorship should begin at home and in the community. The
> community should reenforce what is learned at home, otherwise those things
> learned at home would eventually become irrelevant.
And which family within your community would you choose as a model for
what is reinforced in the library? It would seem to me that most
communities have a broad range of values, customs and ideas being taught
within its homes. I would prefer to see children exposed to a range of
ideas so that they can make intelligent choices when they become adults.
> Censorship is not a dirty word. If fact, it is quite wholesome. Each of us
> censors what we read, eat and do everyday.
Yes, we make selections for ourselves and, in some cases, our families. I,
for one, would not like to think that someone else is making choices for
me (or my family). As youth services librarians we need to be sure that
ALL the members of our community are represented - not just those who fit
the common denominator.
> Librarians should not be political activists, but public
> servants. The First Amendment has stood erect for some 200 years now
> and it does not need librarians to protect it. The children do!
Thanks to librarians, and others, the First Amendment stands today,
despite many attempts over the years to whittle away its power. If we,
collectors of the country's culture and history, do not fight to protect
it, I fear for its future. Yes children may need protection but they also
need information, knowledge, and education. They need their horizons
expanded and they need to grow and understand the world around them. We
can be a great resource in those arenas when our hands are not tied. There
are many others, especially parents, who are there to protect.
(These are my opinions - I do not represent the library)
*******************************************************************************
Robin Del Guidice "Many things we need can
Youth Services Specialist wait, children cannot...
Peninsular Branch Library To them we cannot say
Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library tomorrow, their name is
guidicr@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us today."
Gabriela Mistral
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>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:07:45 1998
From: SHERYL BAILEY <BAILEYS@charleston.lib.sc.us>
Subject: Re: censorship/protecting the children
Thanks to all of you who responded so articulately to Susan Melancon's post.
You expressed many of the thoughts and reactions I'd had but had not had time
to write.
The attempt to put a positive slant on censorship reminded me of an experience
I had years ago as a high school student in Georgia. Our US Congressman (I
think his name was Larry McDonald) tried to explain to my class that
discrimination was actually a good thing - that it meant "to discriminate,
to
selectively and carefully choose those people with whom you would
associate"
...
Anyway, as I read Ms. Melancon's post, I couldn't help but wonder whether she
was playing the devil's advocate to get us all to think.?
Sheryl Bailey
Charleston County (SC) Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:07:57 1998
From: "Schwartz, Ginger J." <GJS8126a@co.prince-william.va.us>
Subject: Re: Maniac Magee / book club
Thanks to Jerri Kladder, Karen Knudson and Robin Price for responding to
my Maniac Magee book club discussion starters. Here is what we came up
with...
"You could use it as a discussion of what a legend is and how Maniac
becomes legendary in scope -- like a folk tale character, while at the
same time wrestling with some very real problems: jealousy exaggerated
by racism, mental illness, homelessness, grief, and simple kindnesses
as well as what it means to be a family."
"Maniac Magee was a prize-winning knot-untier. Why not provide a
series of tangles and tied-too-tight knots and shoe laces as an
ice- breaker? There are also inexpensive puzzles of tangled bits of
metal that could also be used, and re-used. The untangling could also
be construed -- and discussed -- as a metaphor for trying to figure out
what makes people the way they are, as everybody tries to figure out
what rules Maniac Magee lives by... ...Once they start, a few
judicious questions and comments will keep the discussion
directed...."
"The one time I remember booktalking this book I simply read the
frogball chapter (I think it's chapter 5 or 7). Actually, I abridged
it somewhat, summarizing a bit to keep things brief. The kids were
really hooked."
Things to Notice and Talk About
* Much is made in the book of nicknames. Almost everyone in the book has
at least one nickname. Jeffrey worries about being called "Maniac"
because he's "afraid of losing his name, and with it the only thing he
had left from his mother and father. " Amanda calls Mars Bar Thompson
"Snickers" after he loses his fierceness. Look at who does and who
does
not have a nickname in the story. How do they earn them or lose them?
How do you feel about a nickname for you? McNab's gang is called "The
Cobras" and the tricycle set are called "Heck's Angels." What do
each of
those names connote? Watch to see which characters call Jeffrey
"Maniac"
and which do not. Is there a reason?
* There's a subplot in the book about learning. Magee teaches Grayson to
read. How does he do it? What books does he use? Which ones would you
use? Is there any significance to the first book Amanda lends Magee to
read? Magee is determined to keep Russell and Piper McNab in school.
Why? Notice the tricks he uses. Which ones work best? Why isn't Magee
himself in school if it's so important? Will he go to school at the end
of the story?
* Homes and homelessness are very important to the plot. If Jeffrey
loves being with the Beales so much, why doesn't he stay there from the
beginning? How does Spinelli make us understand Jeffrey's search and
needs? How does Jeffrey define home? How do you? Notice his
determination to have an address, even painting a number on the band
shell. Notice when he erases it.
1. Norristown/Two Mills has the East End and the West End. What seems to
separate the two parts of town? Are all towns/cities divided like this?
If
not by name, how is the place you live divided? Can you describe and
discuss
the differences? Why does this happen? How does this change?
2. How did Jeffrey solve his problems with people who disliked him? Give
some examples and tell us what we can learn from Jeffrey's style.
3. Is Jeffery running away from something, toward something, or both?
What
does he find in his travels? What do you wish for him?
4. Did you wonder about what happened to Russell and Piper? Write about
how meeting Jeffrey influenced their lives.
THANKS AGAIN!
Ginger J. Schwartz
Children's Librarian
Potomac Community Library
2201 Opitz Blvd.
Woodbridge, VA 22191
(703) 494 - 8126
gjs8126a@co.prince-william.va.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:08:38 1998
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: wholesome censorship
I didn't think it was possible for someone to enable me to agree w/the
original poster, but Ms. Seblonka's achieved it.
The idea that government employees on government time should be political
activists for any cause however worthy is obscene. Not to mention that you
should have your hands full defending the first ammendment rights of your
patrons.
OTOH, Maybe Ms. Seblonka is urging us to get out and hustle as private
citizens, using our free time to make our country a better place. If
so, I salute her. It's excellent advice.
Kirsten Edwards "Have you ever noticed how people will get
kirstedw@kcls.org up & demand the goverment stop *other*
people from, say drinking, smoking or
engaging in some other dangerous/immoral
activity, but never to stop *themselves*
from doing so?" <The Moon Is A Harsh
Mistress - paraphrased>
On Mon, 5 Jan 1998, Cathy Sullivan Seblonka wrote:
> Hi. In her posting of Jan. 1, Susan Melancon stated "Librarians should
> not be political activists, but public servants. The First Amendment has
> stood erect for some 200 years now and it does not need librarians to
> protect it. The children do!"
>
> I disagree. Librarians (and everybody else) need to be political
> activists. Many of the rights that have been gained over the
> course of history have come as a result of people working together to
> improve life for the bulk of the population. Sometimes this working
> together takes the form of political activitism. If I had been a
> librarian a little less than 100 years ago, should I not have been
> actively working for the right of women to vote? If my community decides
> that the public schools don't need school librarians or that the public
> library is no longer relevant, should I not get out there and work
> actively to change these ideas?
>
> More than 50% of our tax dollars go to support the military. Just think
> of how much one nuclear submarine or a new bomber costs. How many
> school and public libraries could be improved if the money spent on just
> one sub or plane went to libraries instead? Should I keep quiet about
> this situation? Or work actively to change it?
>
> What about our environment? Shouldn't librarians care about it and work
> to protect it? If we don't improve the care of our environment what will
> our future bring? And the poor. Don't we care that people are hungry and
> lack work that brings them dignity and a living wage and health care
> coverage? If they had the basics perhaps they would then have the time
> and energy to be library advocates.
>
> These issues are only a few that librarians (and others) need to be
> actively involved with. Our First Amendment does indeed need active
> protection. Look at situations in countries all over the globe in this
> last century. How many people lost their right to express their opinions
> freely? How many Germans remained good and loyal "public
servants" rather
> than risk speaking out about 60 years ago? Look at what is happening to
> people in some Central American countries who teach the poor how to read.
> Many have been and are still losing their lives in their work to bring the
> power of the written word to those without an education. Ask them how
> they feel about censorship.
>
> It is one of our jobs as parents to discuss with our children what they
> are reading. If they bring home something from the library that we don't
> want them to read we can sit down with them and discuss it. These are
> teaching moments. I respect your right to read with your children what
> you wish for them to read, but please, allow my children the freedom to
> read what they want. If I don't agree with my children's reading tastes,
> I will do something about it.
>
> So sorry for the long rant, but I really believe that everyone of us must
> work actively to maintain and improve the world.
>
>
> Cathy Sullivan Seblonka
> Youth Services Coordinator
> Peter White Public Library
> 217 N. Front St.
> Marquette, MI 49855
> (906) 228-9510
> fax (906) 228-7315
> e-mail: cathys@uproc.lib.mi.us
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:09:00 1998
From: Vicky Schoenrock <vschoenr@nslsilus.org>
ubject: Book Budgets
I need some collective wisdom on how to go about asking for a bigger book
budget for children's materials. What is the breakdown in most libraries?
I have found that Adult Services has three times the budget we do...is
this typical?
I feel that is unfair (especially as we have to provide three bookmobiles
with their mainly childrens collections out of our budget, but that is
another story.)
but I don't know from experience what the standard breakdown might be.
Thank you!!!!
Vicky Schoenrock, Youth Services Manager
Waukegan Public Library, 128 N. County St. Waukegan IL 60085
Phone: 847-623-2041 Fax:847-623-2092
vschoenr@nslsilus.org
***My opinions are my own, of course***
"Remain calm and share your bananas." - Anne Lamott
"If you can't say something good about a person,
come sit next to me." - Alice Roosevelt Longworth
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:09:44 1998
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: Re: youth internet access
PU>> Each of us censors what we read, eat and do everyday.
PU>Ah, but isn't that the point? Each of us censors what WE read, etc. every
PU>day. One man's beets are another man's potatoes. And it's my brothers and
PU>sisters-in-law's responsibiIity to determine what they want their children
PU>to read and see. One sister-in-law won't let her children watch the Arthur
PU>series on PBS because her daughter started picking up some habits from
D.W.
PU>that she doesn't like. She's in the minority, I think, and I wouldn't want
PU>to see Marc Brown's books pulled off the shelf because *she* thinks they
PU>are teaching children the wrong things.
PU>I would much rather provide full access to the Internet (and other
sources)
PU>and allow parents to limit their children from taking advantage of it than
PU>provide limited access and have all children prevented from taking full
PU>advantage.
PU>Miriam Neiman
PU>mellifur@tiac.net
So much for Hilary's vaunted theory that it takes a whole village to
raise a child, hmmm, Miriam? Do you really want to stake out the
position that children who are being neglected/unsupervised by their own
parents are nobody else's business no matter how potentially
perilous/distressing their behavior might be as long as they're not
breaking any laws? A child can majorly offend other people or indulge
in very risky behaviour without actually becoming criminal; we're
dealing with the real world here, not an ideal one in which kids would
not venture out in public unless under the competant and watchful eye of
caregivers. Is not one of our main responsibilities as librarians
maintaining a moderate degree of civilization in our institutions so
that people look forward to coming to them? We have in the past
undoubtedly gone overboard in attempting to protect children from
presumeably pernicious literary influences, but this doesn't mean that
the other extreme of no supervision at all makes any more sense...
Playing devil's advocate, but fairly seriously,
Chuck Schacht
Romeo Public Library
Romeo, MI.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:11:08 1998
From: "Bette Ammon" <bammon@mtlib.org>
Subject: Stumper--boy during depression
Patron loved this book as a kid. Setting is the Depression, a boy (10
or so) travels from workcamp to workcamp. He becomes ill and is
nursed back to health by a woman sheepherder in Montana who travels
in a gypsy cart. He picks out his own name from the Bible - randomly
selects the name David.
Any bells ringing? Reply to me bammon@mtlib.org. Thanks.
Bette Ammon
Bette Ammon http://www.ism.net/~mslaplib/
Missoula Public Library 406.721.2005
301 E Main fax 406.728.5900
Missoula MT 59802 bammon@mtlib.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:11:17 1998
From: "Carole Fiore"<cfiore@mail.dos.state.fl.us>
Subject: 1998 Florida Library Youth Program Manual available on-line
This is being cross posted -- Sorry for the duplication!
**********************************************************
The 1998 Florida Library Youth Program (FLYP) Manual is
available on line at:
http://www.dos.state.fl.us/dlis/bld/FLYP98/index.htm
The manual was put together by Jana Fine and Marlene
Mitchell, both of the Clearwater Public Library. The body
of the FLYP Manual is available as a series of files in
Adobe PDF format. Go to the above address. There will be a
link that will load the Free Adobe Acrobat Reader to your
machine.
The files may be viewed on the screen using an Adobe Acrobat
viewer or they may be copied to your local system. The files
are images of the pages as printed in the manual, i.e., they
are not word processing files that you can edit.
The FLYP 1998 Manual Table of Contents links you to each
section of the document.
New this year -- Soon -- Before you actually need it, we
will have the evaluation pages linked so that you will be
able to e-mail your evaluations directly to the State
Library.
Please let us know what you think of the manual.
*********************************************************
Carole D. Fiore
Library Program Specialist/Youth Services Consultant
State Library of Florida
R. A. Gray Building
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0250
PHONE: 850/487-2651 FAX: 850/488-2746 TDD: 850/922-4085
E-mail: CFIORE@mail.dos.state.fl.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:11:33 1998
From: Estella Prendez <EstellaP@LHQSMTP.COLAPL.ORG>
Subject: Job Bulletin
This message has been posted to multiple listings. Please excuse the
duplication.
CAREER OPPORTUNITY
AN ACTIVE EQUAL OPPORTUNITY EMPLOYER
LIBRARIAN I
The County of Los Angeles Public Library is one of the nation#s five
largest metropolitan public library systems with 88 libraries that service
communities and institutions covering almost 3,100 square miles. Its
extensive collection takes many forms, providing diverse resources,
current materials and the latest in technology to satisfy the public#s #need
to know#.
The Library provides staff the opportunity to work with rich collections in
a variety of formats. Many types of career opportunities are also
provided, creating possibilities to explore a variety of specialties and the
challenges of differing communities. The Library has an ongoing need
for Audio-Visual, Children#s, Government Services, Reference Services
and Technical Services Librarians.
ALL POSITIONS ARE OPEN TO QUALIFIED MEN AND WOMEN.
PURSUANT TO THE AMERICANS WITH DISABILITIES ACT (ADA) OF
1990. DISABLED PERSONS WHO BELIEVE THEY NEED REASONABLE
ACCOMMODATION, OR HELP IN ORDER TO APPLY FOR A POSITION,
MAY CONTACT THE LIBRARY#S ADA COORDINATOR AT (562)
940-8431. DEAF APPLICANTS WITH TELEPHONE-TELETYPE EQUIPMENT
MAY LEAVE TYPEWRITTEN MESSAGES BY CALLING (562) 940-8477.
APPLICATION INSTRUCTIONS: To schedule an examination
appointment and obtain application forms, contact Brenda LaFave or
Penny Torres at (562) 940-8434, Monday through Friday, between
10:00 a.m. and 4:00 p.m. Examinations will be conducted at the County
of Los Angeles Public Library Headquarters, located at 7400 East
Imperial Highway, Room 223, Downey, California, 90242. This
examination will remain open until the needs of the service are met. The
next examinations are scheduled on January 9, February 13, March
13, and April 17, 1998.
Salary: $2,715 - $3,362
Exam No: Q8334P
MINIMUM REQUIREMENTS: TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE: A Master of
Library Science degree -or- completion of 36 graduate quarter units in a
library science curriculum leading to a Master of Library Science degree.
LICENSE: A California Class "3" Driver's License may be required.
REQUIREMENT INFORMATION: Persons who are successful in this
examination but who do not have a Master of Library Science degree will
be withheld from the eligible list until this degree is obtained.
ELIGIBLE LIST INFORMATION: The names of candidates receiving a
passing grade on the examination will be added to the eligible list and,
unless appointed, will appear in the order of their score group for a
period of at least four (4) months following the date of eligibility. No
person may compete in this examination more than once every four (4)
months.
ESSENTIAL JOB FUNCTIONS:
-Must be able to retrieve and place books and materials on high shelves
at maximum of 90" above the floor and place and retrieve items on floor
level shelves in order to weed shelves and locate collection materials.
-Must be able to use Automated Circulation System computer terminals
and other computer generated equipment; input data into a computer
terminal; and use telephone equipment.
-Extensive public and telephone contact requiring good communication
skills. Employees must exhibit a positive and friendly service approach
when dealing with customers.
-Must be able to travel to locations throughout Los Angeles County to
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-Must be able to operate audio-visual equipment, photocopy machines,
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-Must be able to prepare various reports.
VACANCY INFORMATION: The resulting eligible list for this examination
will be used to fill permanent positions at facilities throughout the County
of Los Angeles.
EXAMINATION INFORMATION: This examination will consist of an
interview covering training, experience, personal fitness and general
ability to perform the duties of the position weighted 100%.
Candidates claiming Veterans Credit must present a copy of their
honorable discharge or Certificate of Service (DD214) at the time of filing.
INSTRUCTIONS FOR COMPLETING YOUR APPLICATION: It is to your
advantage to fill out your application completely and correctly so that you
receive full credit for your related education and experience. If your
application is incomplete, it may be rejected at any stage of the selection
process. In addition, please submit a resume of your education and
experience and proof of a Master of Library Science Degree with your
application. IT IS THE APPLICANT#S RESPONSIBILITY TO FILL OUT
THE APPLICATION COMPLETELY, LEGIBLY AND CORRECTLY
BEFORE SUBMITTING IT.
Successful candidates must complete a background investigation,
including a fingerprint search. Examples of disqualifying factors may
include:
-Any felony conviction
-Job related misdemeanor convictions
-Certain serious traffic convictions or patterns of traffic
violations
The Public Library does not discriminate against applicants with
disabilities. If an applicant wishes special arrangements to accommodate
an impairment, the applicant should contact the Department#s ADA
Coordinator at (562) 940-8431 at least one week prior to the scheduled
examination.
EMPLOYMENT DOCUMENTATION: Immigration law requires that all
persons hired after
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County which show satisfactory proof of: 1) Identity and 2) U.S.
Citizenship or a legal right to work permanently in the United States.
ALL CANDIDATES WILL BE REQUIRED TO PROVIDE POSITIVE
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PLEASE BRING TO THE EXAMINATION A VALID DRIVER#S LICENSE OR
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BUILDING PASS, PROFESSIONAL LICENSE, VALID PASSPORT, ETC.).
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:11:38 1998
From: Robb Everett <reverett@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Subject: Position Announcement - Librarian (fwd)
---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:20:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Robb Everett <reverett@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
To: libs-or@sparkie.osl.state.or.us
Cc: publib@sunsite.berkeley.edu
Subject: Position Announcement - Librarian
LIBRARIAN I/II
YOUTH & EXTENSION SERVICES
City of Eugene Public Library
Eugene, Oregon
Salary: $2480 - $3432/month
The City of Eugene is seeking an innovative, motivated individual to work
in a combined section with services for children, young adults, seniors,
bookmobile and other outreach activities. Responsibilities include
children's and young adult reference and readers advisory, collection
development, budget preparation and monitoring, programming (especially
for young adults), and community networking. Requires a Master of Library
Science from an ALA accredited program. One year of public library
experience is desirable. Demonstrated proficiency with automated library
and office systems and networks. CLOSING DATE: January 30, 1998. Obtain
application packet at City of Eugene Human Resources and Risk Services,
777 Pearl Street, Room 101, Eugene, OR 97401. AA/EOE. Out of area
residents may request application packet by calling (541)682-5061 or
E-mailing at <application.requests@ci.eugene.or.us>
Rob Everett, Manager
Youth & Extension Services
Eugene Public Library
Eugene, OR 97401
(541) 682-8315
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:11:42 1998
From: LFIDLER@aardvark.ucs.ou.edu
Subject: Midwinter Forum on Encyclopedias
[please excuse any duplication]
The Bibliography and Reference Publishing Advisory Committee of RUSA/CODES
is sponsoring a discussion forum on the future of encyclopedias on:
Encyclopedias: 2000 and Beyond
Monday, January 12, 1998
New Orleans Convention Center Room 60
8:30-10:30 am
Invited to discuss their products are publishers such as Britannica, Encarta,
Gale, Grolier, MacMillan, Oxford, and World Book.
Some issues for exploration include:
print vs electronic format
pricing/licensing
content development
revision policies
authority of contributors
bibliogrpahic citation questions
Come join us and share your questions, ideas, and concerns!
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jan 6 19:11:54 1998
From: Trudy Terry <tterry@sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #160
When is Winne the Pooh's birthday? Trudy
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