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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 17:32:07 1998
From: Deborah_Dubois@freenet.richland.oh.us
Subject: Volunteers/Crafts
To Diane Cinami:
We do use volunteers for many things in our library, and cutting out items
for crafts or decorations is one of their duties. They usually have a
regular schedule, coming at least once a week for a few hours.
My real advice for you though is, why not stop doing crafts with every story
time? My feeling is that the main focus in the program should be on the
stories and if your program is only 30 minutes like ours are, then doing a
craft with that age leaves little time for storytelling.
I believe there is some value in doing crafts with story time, but it should
be a special event, not necessarily a regular occurance, especially if it is
taking so much of your time to prepare.
Try doing crafts only every other week or twice in a series of six story
times. The children will look forward to the special activity and it will
relieve some of the pressure on you and your staff.
Deborah L. Dubois
Children's Outreach Librarian
Mansfield/Richland County Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 17:32:12 1998
From: Karen Laird <klaird@worthington.lib.oh.us>
Subject: www scavenger hunts
Thank you to all who have responded so far to my request for www
scavenger hunt ideas. Actually, most of the responses have been asking
me to share what I find out, so here is what I've gotten so far.
Check out the Mining Company's Scavenger Hunt Page
[http://kidsnetgames.miningco.com/library/weekly/aa051297.htm] It
compiles
a number of Internet Scavenger hunts (including mine!).
Sincerely,
janet eckert
western massachusetts regional library system
I haven't done this before, but I just designed one myself, based on
Pirate facts (for our Pirate spring break program). I stuck to sights
kids can access through Yahoo (not Yahooligans...not enough links).
Haven't tested it out yet, but I like what I came up with.
Dawn Rutherford
Children's Librarian
Carl B. Roden Branch
Chicago Public Library
rutherfo@chipublib.org
I will continue to post ideas as they come in, or if anyone out there
wants to post to the list instead of to me personally, it seems there is
a good deal of interest in the question. Thanks again!!
Karen Laird
klaird@worthington.lib.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 17:32:06 1998
From: Karen Stanley <kstanley@marlin.utmb.edu>
Subject: Thank you - Library cards for Young Adults
Thanks to the many who responded to my query of how many libraries out
there allow young adults to sign for their own cards. The responses I
received were positive - none of them had encountered any real problems
and the sentiment seemed to be one of, "you go girl, and get those kids
cards."
Karen Stanley
Rosenberg Library
Galveston, TX
kstanley@marlin.utmb.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 17:32:16 1998
From: AMOUELLET@aol.com
Subject: Re: Volunteers for preparing crafts
I agree with Vicky's comments that crafts are not necessary
at every storytime. In fact, one little fellow at my storytime
hates crafts! I vary the program each week. After the stories,
I may bring out several easy puzzles and divide the group into
pairs to complete a puzzle. When two groups are finished, they
switch puzzles. Another week, I'll show a short video, or bring
out the percussion instruments. Even when we have a craft, I
look for something with little prep time. Kids love to cut out
pictures from the many catalogs that would otherwise clutter up
my desk and glue them to construction paper. Fingerpaints don't
require much preparation either: a dab of paint on a piece of waxed
paper for each child and a bowl of water and towel for washup
afterward. The waxed paper goes right in the trash.
I hope this is some help. The children seem to enjoy the variety.
Annette
amouellet@aol.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 17:32:18 1998
From: RichardGuy@aol.com
Subject: Re: Re: States Books
PUBYACers --
That reminds me. I've been meaning to ask a wide audience:
Does your state have a Poet Laureate? An official state poet appointed for a
given term, or for life? What is his/her name? How long have they been PL?
Do you have an address for them? (God, I hate pronoun agreement...)
California has had Charles Byford Garrigus as PL for over 30 years. He is
the fifth state poet. Ina Coolbrith, the Oakland librarian who gave Jack
London and Isadora Duncan books to read as children, was the first.
PLEASE, PLEASE............reply directly to me rather than to the list and I
will compile the responses and post a hit. Thank you.
Richard K. Moore, Librarian
Bolsa Grande High School
Garden Grove, CA
Email: RichardGuy@AOL.COM
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 17:32:08 1998
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Subject: older people on children's computers
Thanks for all the help, via e-mail and on the list, about the teenagers in
the children's room problem. Of course, the only real solution is more
terminals; we need at least forty (in the library as a whole), and we have
about ten Internet ones and maybe half a dozen old "dumb" terminals.
If we
had fifty internet computers, our internet problems would vanish. Okay,
not all of them. But most!
Thank goodness for the dumb ones, though. The New Improved Web-based
Clevnet is a dud. It takes about three steps backward in usefulness
from the old type. No joke. If you look up a subject, maybe there are 500
books on it, and there's no way to tell which ones belong to the branch or
library you're standing in, except to bring up each one individually.
Horrible. No way, of course, to limit your search to the agency you're in,
either. So the main thing that people want, we can't give them.
Anyone know what DRA is? Please tell me, if you do. It's the name of the
program or the company or something that Clevnet uses, and apparently it
can't do what's needed.
Anyway, currently, policy has been amended to hold the children's room
for children. I'm not sure that's the wisest course, but there it is. It
helps that YA librarian (Victoria Vanucci; she's on this list) is making the
YA section very attractive. Especially considering that the YA section, the
one of the whole library that should have computers everywhere, has none!
I swear, people are nuts.
Bonita
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Bonita Kale
bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 17:32:06 1998
From: "Gary Fraser" <gfraser@intermind.net>
Subject: Black History websites?
I've done some preliminary searches, but just to cover all the bases....can
anyone recommend any really good sites for Black History-related info? Thank
you and please respond to me personally.
gary
Gary L. Fraser III
gfraser@intermind.net; www.hdpl.org
Henderson District Public Libraries
280 Water St.
Henderson, NV 89015
Internet Public Library; www.ipl.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 17:33:01 1998
From: rdukelow@colosys.net (Rosemary Dukelow)
ubject: Re: Save the Bear
>Colleagues: I hope that all International Realtions Committees of all
>Divisions, round tables, square tables, under the tables, and all task
>forces will bring their strengths to bear to SAVE THE BEAR (and his
>friends).
<snip>
>Big Grandma
>
I say we give back the bear when the Brits give the Elgin marbles back to
Greece! As for stealing pieces of other people's cultures, they are the champs.
Rosemary
rdukelow@colosys.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:00:43 1998
From: Hope Baugh <hopeb@iquest.net>
ubject: full- vs. parttime management
Dear Pubyac-ers,
This post is rather long, but I really would like your thoughts on this.
I have just left a job after only one year. I loved many aspects of this
job, and when I took it, I hoped to be there for many years. But the Head
of the Children's Department (my boss) was part-time, and I found I just
couldn't work well in this situation. (Couldn't work well? Hah! I was
throwing up in the car on the way to work! I used up all my sick time as
soon as it was allotted to me. My neck never untensed no matter how many
professional massages I paid for!)
When I gave my notice, the Director asked me to help her with "specific,
positive reasons why the library could better serve its patrons with a
fulltime Head of the Children's Department." She said (as she had said
every time I'd talked with her before) that she knew she had made a mistake
in letting the situation start and continue so long. (The Dept. Head has
been parttime for four years, I think.) The Director told me she knew she
had to tell the Dept. Head to either come back fulltime or step down
completely, but that she (the Director) couldn't do this without specific
reasons.
My first inclination was to say, "Well, let's see...you're losing ME
because
of the parttime department head, and you lost the person before me because
of this, no matter what she might have told you officially. How many good
children's librarians do you have to lose before you get a clue?" But I
didn't say that.
My second inclination was to say, "Isn't it obvious? How can it POSSIBLY be
for the good of the library to have the busiest department managed by a
parttime person? I don't have specific reasons. I just know, now, that I
do not want to work for a library that says it values children's services
but which is actually willing to get by with a halftime department head."
But I didn't say that, either.
I did the diplomatic thing and said I'd need time to think about it.
And I have been thinking about it, quite a lot. The Director never talked
to me again during my last 30 days (beyond the usual chit-chat around the
coffee pot), and I didn't bring it up. But I have been thinking about it.
I have a week before I start my next job, and I've been doing a lot of thinking.
Pubyac-er's, I'd like to know what you think: why SHOULD the department
head of a children's department that consists of 1 1/2 professionals (the ad
for someone to replace me says "2 professionals" - not quite a lie,
but very
misleading), 2 paraprofessionals, and 1 high school page be fulltime? Why
should the head of a children's department in a library that is getting
ready to build a huge, new building with a much larger Children's Room be
fulltime? Why should any department head be fulltime?
And when you think about this, please know that the person who was my boss
is someone I admire very much: she's great (!) at collection development,
at programming, at listening and solving problems, at organization, at
recognizing people's strengths and using them...She's creative,
self-disciplined, intuitive, has a great sense of humor... If anyone could
pull this off, it would be her, and I can see why the Director does not want
to risk losing her. But the fact that this situation is NOT working, even
with her as the manager, is proof to me that it could never work.
It seems to me that all this is related to other questions: Why should a
library require its children's librarians to have MLS degrees? Why should
a library require its children's librarians to have studied children's
literature, children's programming, child development, and reading theory in
addition to reference, collection development, intellectual freedom,
cataloging/organization of information, and management? Why should anyone
take children's services seriously at all?
To be honest, another reason I just found another job rather than working
harder to make this one "fit" me, is that I could sympathize with why
my
boss wanted to be halftime: she wants to be with her own kids. As she
says, "What, are they supposed to raise themselves?" But at the same
time
she doesn't want to give up the power and status (not to mention the money)
that come from being the department head. So another related question is
that much-asked, complex, feminist one: "What is the best way for ALL of us
to give our children the care they need and deserve in this day and age?"
Philosophy aside, though, I'd really like to know what you would have said
to the Director. I look forward to reading your thoughts.
Hope Baugh
hopeb@iquest.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:00:53 1998
From: Edgewater Park - Jacques School <epjacq@nothinbut.net>
Subject: Re: States Books
roger hall wrote:
>
> Once again, our schools are doing states reports. Unfortunately, our
> director will not allow us to limit the number of books that they check out
> and so they check out every book we own that lists that state. I am looking
> for a single good source that can serve as a children's reference book that
> lists state flowers, tree, population, (hopefully in color), etc. By doing
> this, I can make sure that I have something more than just an encyclopedia
> to check out. Also, if anyone knows of a good web site that I could direct
> the parents and child to, I'd appreciate it. Thank you all very much.
>
> Anne Hall
> Anne & Roger Hall
> Kentucky
> rdhall@iclub.org
There is an excellent dictionary that contains a reference section which
includes a thesaurus, an atlas, weights & measures, and two excellent
"albums": an album of the states and and album of the presidents (in
color) The Album of the States lists each state, capital, year of
statehood, area in sq miles and how it got its name. There is a picture
of something located in the state. It is followed by pages of the State
Birds and the state flowers. The dictionary section itself is also well
done and incudes some "word histories", lots of color illustrations,
and
complete entries.
Title: Webster's New World Dictionary for Young Readers and Writers
Pub: Silver, Burdett & Ginn
ISBN 0-382-21325-4
Cathy Dugan, Teacher Gr. 4
Magowan School
epjacq@nothinbut.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:01:22 1998
From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
ubject: Re: Save the Bear
Oh, bother! When the British Museum empties out it's collection
cases, maybe then we can think of presenting them with Pooh et. al. who
were given by their rightful owners to NYPL. At least the British culture
wasn't looted in the process. Until then, I think I'll visit our friends
on 42nd Street and 5th Avenue to make sure they aren't lonely.
(Sentiments do not necessarily reflect those of my employer--but
they might.)
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:01:31 1998
From: Stephanie Loney <sloney@libris.chulavista.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Save the Bear
Re: Save the bear.....
The Brits have Pochahontas safely tucked away in a church graveyard.
Lets call it a fair exchange....!
S. J Loney
Chula Vista P.L.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:02:17 1998
From: "Siti, Beverly" <siti8537@rowan.edu>
Subject: The Chocolate War
Hello!
I am creating a teaching unit on Robert Cormier's The Chocolate War
for 9th-10th grade students. I would appreciate any appropriate
activities related to this book that you have used with this age
level.
Please Email me directly. Thanks in advance!
Beverly Siti
Library Science Grad. Student
Rowan University
Email address: Siti8537@rowan.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:02:21 1998
From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
Subject: National Library Week
I am hoping there are some very creative people out there in PUBYAC land. I
am trying to put together some ideas for National Library Week. So far, I am
having a storytelling evening where I will show the young adults techniques
for storytelling for fun and profit. Other than that, I am seriously stumped.
Any ideas? I work with mostly 6-8 graders, sometimes 9 & 10th graders come
to
my YA programs. Thanks in advance for any ideas. I promise to compile any
ideas sent to me and post it to the list.
Ilene Lefkowitz
YA Librarian
Englewood Public Library (NJ)
ILefkowitz@aol.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:02:38 1998
From: Anna Zanarini <azanarini@slco.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Children's Reference Collection
Hi All!
I have recently been promoted to asst. manager of a brand new library and I am
developing a reference collection for the children's room. The biggest issue is
space; we don't have a lot. I have some handouts, etc. on reference books for
children, but they are pretty outdated. I was wondering if anyone has a current
list of core reference books for the children's area? If you send me the list
via email, snail mail or fax, I will summarize and post to the list is there is
interest.
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
Anna Zanarini
Sandy Library
Salt Lake County Library System
10100 South Petunia Way
Sandy, UT 84092
(801) 944-7602
FAX (801) 572-8247
azanarini@slco.lib.ut.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:03:14 1998
From: Trudy Terry <tterry@sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us>
Subject: crafts at storytime
I always tell parents I am a librarian not a craftberian. I think of
storytime as listening, word aquisition, time. Once in a great while I
do a craft project with the children. This week I bought 9 feet of
muslin, w made prints on them with sponges and our hands. It was a lot
of fun and very special because it happens so seldom. I feel that I
only have an hour a week with them and I want to help them get ready to
read. I love doing programs my way. Trudy Terry
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:03:18 1998
From: "Carl A. Harvey II" <charvey@indy.net>
Subject: State Books
I know that someone posted a web site for US states information just the
other day, but I seemed to have deleted that posting before I printed
it. Could you please send it to me at:
charvey@indy.net
Thanks.....Carl Harvey
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:16:00 1998
From: "PAT MARTIN, RED WING PUBLIC LIBRARY, MINNESOTA"
<PATM@selco.lib.mn.us>
Subject: thanks re stumper one tooth more or less
It was not a picture book at all, but a poem from Shel Silvestein's WHERE THE
SIDEWALK ENDS "The Crocodile's Toothache". Thanks for your responses.
My
patron will be so pleased, as I am. This listserv really works!
Pat Martin
Red Wing Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:15:53 1998
From: "Kerry McManus"<kmcmanus@randomhouse.com>
Subject: Re: DR. Seuss/Potty training book
I am very happy to confirm that this book has NOT been published by Random
House under Dr. Seuss's name. Your patron has a good imagination!
Kerry McManus
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From: cchesh @ tc3net.com
Date: 02/04/98 08:50 PM
Subject: DR. Seuss/Potty training book
Hello,
I have a patron looking for a book about potty training she said was
by Dr. Seuss. She claims she saw it advertised/written about
"somewhere"recently. Now, she and I both know the good Doctor is no
longer
with us, but she's "positive" it was Dr. Seuss (and not the famous
baby
doctor, Dr. Spock, as I tactfully suggested). I know that Random House is
publishing new things with Dr. Seuss's name attached and I thought maybe
this potty training book might be one of these. She thought the title
might be something like _Go, go oops!_
I've checked our Baker & Taylor booklink and the newest Random House
catalogs I have. Does this sound familiar to anyone? The patron would be
most appreciative if I could come up with verification that this exists.
She's beginning to believe that she imagined seeing it.
Cathy Chesher
Adrian Public Library
Adrian Michigan
cchesh@tc3net.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:15:57 1998
From: "Karen Brown" <BrownK@ci.monterey.ca.us>
Subject: stumper - useful dragon
Do you know of a picture book around in the 50's about a useful dragon who has a
green eye and a red eye and is used as a stop light? The book may have other
elements as the primary plot, but this part has stuck in the customer's mind.
The title might have an Asian name of a person or village connected to the
dragon. We have checked many group catalogs and BIP and A to Zoo, as well as
several librarians' brains.
Also, our old stumper did not get answered. If you are a person (like me
sometimes) who assumes everyone knows that answer and someone else will answer
it, please take another look at this one: A picture book in which a boy named
Claude and his sidekick (unidentifiied creature) go on adventures, including a
visit to an icy land with penguins and a walrus floating on an iceberg. We have
checked A to Zoo, Something about the Author character index, BIP CDROM, and
several library catalogs.
Thank you for any help you can give on these! Karen Brown Monterey Public
Library brownk@ci.monterey.ca.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:15:04 1998
From: Ingold <ingoldm@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Stumper -- animal runs away from home
A patron called today with a stumper about a little fuzzy girl
animal (Pauline?) who has been scolded by her mother and runs away from
home. She goes to the snake family, but they don't eat the right food, so
she goes to another family and another. None of them have food suitable for
her. She finally goes to the wise old frog who tells her that her mother
has forgiven her and that she should just go home. When she does, she
finds her mother waiting for her with her favorite food. The patron
remembers reading the book to her children 5 or 6 years ago. The kids
can tell her the plot, but no one remembers the title. HELP!
I have searched A to Zoo and our system data base with no luck.
Your collective minds are super! Thanks in advance.
Marion "Meb" Ingold Children's Services Director
La Grange Park Public Library La Grange Park, IL
Telephone 708-352-0100 Email ingoldm@sls.lib.il.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Fri Feb 6 18:16:22 1998
From: "Kate Nafz" <knafz@hotmail.com>
Subject: stumper-doll eating dragon
I have a patron who is looking for a book that is approx. 20 years old.
All she remembers is that an angry dragon is calmed down by being fed
dolls. Eventually, the dragon's tail grows very long and wraps around a
mountain, making the dragon no longer a threat. This is all the
information I have. I checked our system's OPAC and A-Zoo. Any leads
would be greatly appreciated.
Kate Nafz
Maurice M. Pine Free Public Library
Fair Lawn, New Jersey
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