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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:47:49 1998
From: Edmonds Library Reference Dept <edmref@sno-isle.org>
Subject: children's lib'n at adult reference desk
Dear PUBYACkers,
I'm being asked to consolidate our library's separate children's
librarian's desk with the adult reference station. Having lost the
struggle to remain separate I want to convince children that they can
still approach me and other librarians with confidence that we will help
them. I'll bring along my Curious George and Madeline dolls to the new
arrangement, but can you suggest other ideas for decorating, equipping,
or furnishing the reference area to establish a children's presence
there? Thanks in advance!
Jonathan Betz-Zall, Children's Librarian, Edmonds Library, Wash.
edmref@sno-isle.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:47:49 1998
From: rvaillancourt@carmel.lib.in.us (Renee Vaillancourt)
ubject: MLS correspondence courses
In response to those people asking about MLS correspondence courses, I
wanted to point out an article in the February AMERICAN LIBRARIES by Karen
G. Schneider called "A Giant LEEP Forward" (p.64). Although the
article
does not address correspondence courses, it describes another way that
people can attend library school classes from remote locations - through
the Internet! I'm not sure how widely available such classes are, but it's
something to look into if you aren't able to attend a "traditional"
library
school.
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Renee J. Vaillancourt
Young Adult Services Coordinator rvaillancourt@carmel.lib.in.us
Carmel Clay Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:47:48 1998
From: saecker@axp.winnefox.org
ubject: Re: full vs part-time management
I am a parttime manager, directing a small public library. I am
dedicated to my job, but also dedicated to my child. Working parttime
allows me to keep a job that is very important to me and also not neglect
my child. It is difficult to hear people suggest that parttimers ought
to just stay home with their children for several years. In my case, I
could not afford to not work and would lose a job that I love. I am
available to handle problems and issues that arise. Staff can call me at
home or I will handle issues the next day. So far it is working
splendidly for all concerned. Personally, I would want to hear if a
staff member was having troubles due to my schedule and see what we could
do to fix it. That is the job of the supervisor, to adjust and flex, but
also as a fellow employee to be able to decided whether parttime is right
for her or not.
Tasha, proud mommy to Rowan who will be a year old next week
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Tasha Saecker | Email: Saecker@winnefox.org
Caestecker Public Library | Phone: (920)294-3572
Green Lake, WI 54941-0278 | Fax: (920)294-6055
Homepage: http://www.ripon.k12.wi.us/tasha/
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"An infant is pure spiritual gold. Cherishing her innocence is the way to
find
the path back to our own. So in a very important way it is the parent who sits
at the feet of the baby."
Deepak Chopra in The Seven Spiritual Laws for Parent
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:47:55 1998
From: Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
Subject: Black History web sites
I like these sites on Jackie Robinson:
http://www.dodgers.com/robinson.html
http://www.jackie42.com
Jean Hewlett
North Bay Cooperative Library System, Santa Rosa, CA
All opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employers.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:47:55 1998
From: Bonnie Wright <bwright@aldus.northnet.org>
Subject: alternatives to storytimes
Has anyone come up with programs for preschoolers that are alternatives
to the "usual" and "expected" weekly storytimes??? I'm
looking for
some innovative ideas that involve books, but aren't typical and
traditional--eg). other ways to interact with preschoolers and books.
I define typical and traditional as: I read stories or tell stories,
followed by a craft or games or songs and fingerplays.
I'm looking for something I can do for parents as well as kids.
Something to give "mom or dad a break". Parents are often
"time-poor"
and come when they can. I don't want to become a "babysitter", but
I'd like something to involve kids with books, and something for the
"harried" parent to look forward to-in terms or some service or
speaker
we could provide, or something that would make it easier for the parent
with very little time to spare.
Any ideas out there?
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:47:51 1998
From: kathyb <Kathyb@anoka.lib.mn.us>
Subject: Re: DRA Joys
MINORITY VIEW HERE:
We have DRA and we absolutely love it. It NEVER goes down. I think it
is user friendly and a great system.
Kathy Baxter in Minnesota
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:47:51 1998
From: Edmonds Reference Library <edmref@sno-isle.org>
Subject: Re: Service to Disabled Adults
Here at Edmonds we have an analagous situation: a group of special-needs
older children who come to preschool story time each week. Their
wheelchairs take up so much room that they crowd out some of the
"regulars", who complained to me. Fortunately, the administration was
willing to let me schedule an additional story time session to make room
for everyone, which smoothed the ruffled feathers. I'm not sure how
much the special needs children get from the story time; some follow
along quite well, others don't seem to respond (that I can see). But
their caregivers keep bringing them, so perhaps they see some benefit.
They are also quite sensitive about dealing with excessive noise, and
they stay toward the back so as not to distract visually, so we get
along quite well. I welcome anyone to preschool story time who behaves
properly; in fact I state only one rule: pay attention to what's
happening up front--this takes care of most other problems.
Vicky asked whether Youth Services should provide services for adults: I
say "Yes, as long as it doesn't distract from your main mission." Will
Adult Services provide resources (e.g. desk coverage) to make up for
those you use in this effort? Will they reciprocate when you need their
help? Stand your ground in maintaining children's services first!
Jonathan Betz-Zall, Children's Librarian, Edmonds Library, Wash.
edmref@sno-isle.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:48:34 1998
From: Trudy Terry <tterry@sparc.hpl.lib.tx.us>
Subject: Re: Storytimes to handicapped adults
We have also been asked to offer "storytimes" to the mentally
handicapped
adults. Our situation was diffrent in that they wanted to come to our
regularly scheduled storytimes. We felt that that would be too
disruptive to our childrens programs so offered to do special storytimes
for them. The group came twice last summer and seemed to enjoy
themselves. We do not offer many adult programs so this seemed natural
to me that I would do the program. It was fun . Trudy Terry
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:48:52 1998
From: "Mindy Schafer" <mschafer@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Dr. Seuss/Cat in the Hat games
Hello all!
We are having a Cat in the Hat birthday party next month and are
looking specifically for games to play. We already have other
activities, books, refreshments, etc. in order, but would be excited
to hear what others have done with games. We are planning on playing
"Pin the bowtie on the Cat". Does anyone else have any other cool
Dr. Seuss-type games? I'll compile a list if anyone is interested.
Thanks!
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* Mindy Schafer *
*Youth Services Librarian*
* Novi Public Library *
* Novi, Michigan *
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:49:10 1998
From: Anna Zanarini <azanarini@slco.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Black History Month Web Sites
The Library Spot has an excellent article on Black History Month web sites. You
can find it at www.libraryspot.com/blackhistory.htm
Anna Zanarini
Salt Lake County Library System
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:49:29 1998
From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
Subject: Re: Service to Disabled Adults
> We (Youth services) have had a request to go to an Adult Day care and read
> stories and poems to adults with dementia.
>
> Vicky Schoenrock, Youth Services Manager
In my previous job, I did a regular story time for severely disabled
adults--in wheelchairs, no language, blind, retarded, etc.--and it
was one of the most rewarding things I did. It was difficult in a
lot of ways, because they didn't have the same avenues of response
that my usual preschool audiences did, but it was clear through their
vocalizations and their body movements that I was reaching them on
some level, and they did like it. I didn't do a conventional
preschool story time, with fingerplays and such, but rather
concentrated on quieter stories with vivid illustrations and poetic
rhythms.
I felt that although these individuals may not have been
strictly speaking in my bailiwick as a children's librarian, still I
had ways of reaching them and sharing beauty with them that others
didn't. I believe it's possible to bring our skills and knowledge as
children's librarians to bear to serve these special populations
without patronizing them in the slightest.
I can understand your reluctance to start taking on all sorts of
other projects if you're stretched to the limit doing your regular
children's programming, but if you've got a little extra space in
your schedule, you may want to reconsider your decision.
Good luck1
Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Public Library
Biddeford, ME 04005
(207)284-4181
vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:49:35 1998
From: MShubee@aol.com
Subject: Re: Mystery Decorations
Linda,
Though I admit that I haven't read the book yet. I know the kids loved the
book "I Know What You Did Last Summer" and, I think it will have some
remaining straglers still reading the book. Perhaps if you use either some of
the characters and or the title of the book, or even a play on the title, it
may get the kids interested. Just a thought.
Jane
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:50:19 1998
From: torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us (Torrie Hodgson Children's Librarian)
ubject: craft project stumper--iron ons
Sometime in my checkered past, I ran across an idea that you could
make a b&w iron on transfer by photocopying a reversed image with the toner
set to dark. Of course, I can no longer find the citation in any of my
books or magazines.
Have any of you found or tried this idea? Would I burn down my
house or library if I tried it? Do you need to have special paper?
Each year for summer reading we (40 to 80 kids) make our summer
reading t shirts. If I can figure out how to do this we can iron on an
outline of our logo and the kids can color it in with heat-set fabric
crayons. Please let me know soon, so I can think of another idea if this
won't work or will be overly expensive.
TIA!
Torrie Hodgson 8)
Torrie Hodgson, Children's Librarian, System Administrator, and everything else!
Burlington Public Library
900 East Fairhaven Ave
Burlington, WA 98233
Phone (360) 755-0760 Fax (360) 755-0717
torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:50:27 1998
From: cmediavi@ucla.edu (Cindy Mediavilla)
ubject: HOMEWORK CENTERS
Dear PUBYACers:
I have just signed a contract with ALA to write a book about homework
centers. (Hooray!) I will begin collecting data by actually visiting
homework center programs in public libraries next academic year. If you
have an exemplary homework assistance program or know of one which should
be included in my book, please forward the appropriate information to the
e-address below.
Thanks for your attention,
Cindy Mediavilla
cmediavi@ucla.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:50:48 1998
From: Julie Shatterly <julies@lyon.york.lib.sc.us>
Subject: part time supervisors
I have been following the fulltime vs. parttime supervisor discussion and
find it pretty interesting. It's neat to "see" out of my own little
world. I have a hard time believing that parttime supervisors could truly
do a well rounded job. As a supervisor myself, it seems that even 40
hours a week is not enough to complete my duties. I take a great deal of
responsibility in my department and feel that is what I was hired to do.
I'm the one that smooths over any problems, I'm the one who instigates
planning for programs, I'm the one who makes sure programs are carried
out - you get the picture! As far as non-supervisory parttime employees -
wonderful! I have 2 parttime library assistants that do a great job. One
parttime employee is in school and that suits her personal needs right
now.
Of course, this whole issue scares me because down the road I want to have
children - yet I feel that working parttime in the job I have now would
not be the job I was hired to do. Unfortunately, there are still not a
lot of options for women who want their supervisory jobs and children.
Julie G. Shatterly
Children's Department Manager
York County Library
P.O. Box 10032
Rock Hill, SC 29731
PH: (803)324-7588
FAX: (803)328-9290
julies@lyon.york.lib.sc.us
Views represented are strictly personal and do not necessarily represent
those of the York County Library.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:51:52 1998
From: "John Albee" <albee@revealed.net>
ubject: Re: Black History websites?, Wednesday, February 11, 1998
>I've done some preliminary searches, but just to cover all the bases....can
>anyone recommend any really good sites for Black History-related info? Thank
>you and please respond to me personally.
Hi Gary and all,
You might find my Abolition / Slavery Resources page at
http://home.revealed.net/albee/pages/Abolition.html to be helpful. While
you're there please look at the other 70 pages of Needle in a CyberStack
and tell me what you think. Suggestion for improvements and links which
should be there are much appreciated.
Bye. John
John Albee mailto:albee@revealed.net
Teacher, Davenport Community Schools
Website: Needle in a CyberStack - the InfoFinder
http://home.revealed.net/albee/
address: 736 Westerfield Road
Davenport, Iowa 52806 phone: 319-386-2171
We are all Works In Progress...
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:52:32 1998
From: jwall@norby.latah.lib.id.us (Potlatch Library)
ubject: Some heretical ;-) thoughts
I know I'm weighing in late on some of these issues, but I've been busy
(haven't we all) and I need time to get my ideas together.
I've commented before that I like the diverse ideas presented in PUBYAC.
However, from some postings, I get the feeling that some of us think we are
more right than others. There isn't one RIGHT way to do Youth Services! What
works for me may not work for others, and vice versa.
So here are my musings----
THEMES: I like themes and can make them work. It makes me feel more
organized and gives structure to what I'm trying to do. However, I would
like to reiterate that good books are the backbone of any storytime. If I
can't find books that support a theme, I don't do the theme, or broaden my
thinking of what the theme entails. (For example our picnic storytime this
week - I knew I'd be tired of winter! - has stories about food, ants, flies,
etc.) But I would be the last person to say that you HAVE to do themes.
PART-TIME DEPARTMENT HEAD: It CAN work. It depends on the circumstances. My
partner and I job-share a department and have found it to be challenging but
doable. It takes commitment, communication, and cooperation (not competition!)
I pick up email in 2 different places, so I'm not sure whether the entire
situation was explained about the part-time dept. head. Should the
department actually be 2 professional positions instead of 1.5? Could the
dept. head job-share? As far as making administrative decisions, how many FT
managers are there 100% of the time the library is open? What happens when
you're gone? Don't things get done?
CRAFTS: I've been a lurker and occasional poster for 4 years, so this issue
has been around before. IMO, crafts ARE OKAY! When I read some of the
postings to PUBYAC, I was reminded of a book that I read last week (and then
discarded for other reasons). A man continually boasted about his things.
When someone asked him what time it was, he went on and on about his watch
until the person was late for his train. (He never did get around to telling
the person what time it was.)
The original poster asked about volunteers to help prep for storytime
crafts, and some of the posts were pretty negative about crafts at all. Yes,
by all means ask for volunteers. Examine how your time flow goes. If you're
spending a lot of time yourself prepping for crafts, it may not be cost
effective. But don't wonder whether crafts are inherently evil. If you enjoy
them, do them!
Here are the cons for incorporating crafts:
*We are supposed to presenting literature and promoting reading. What ARE
our goals?
*Time - finding, prepping, doing.
*Expense.
*Escalating expectations for the craft; e.g. I have to top the craft I did
last week. (This can be put on us by parents, or we can do it to ourselves!)
Pros for crafts:
*Children learn by doing. We attempt to involve the whole child in storytime
- hence fingerplays, music, dramatics, visuals, etc. Crafts are just an
extension of this experience.
*It's a chance to let children explore and to give them positive feedback.
*They are learning to follow directions, share, and are extending their
language. ("Tape the straw to the BACK of the penguin. Push the straw
THROUGH the paper plate. Put your hand UNDER the plate and twirl the penguin
AROUND.")
*Contrary to popular opinion, not all children get to do crafts at other
places. I've had several mothers say that the library was the only place
their children got to do group activities and crafts.
*It gives parents ideas of things to do with their children.
I enjoy crafts, but they have to be a part of what I do, and not of prime
importance. And they can't be elaborate, either - to do or prep!
So, hey, I guess the gist of my message is that there isn't a right way and
a wrong way. There may be things that don't work. If it's broken, it DOES
need to be fixed. But we're not mechanics (God bless them!) - there isn't a
formula, blueprint, or schematic for good service. Support and constructive
(positive) advice and ideas are certainly welcomed.
Sorry for the long post - I've been saving this up for some time!
Jan Wall
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:53:07 1998
From: "Karen L. Simonetti" <karensue@mcs.net>
ubject: Working with Older/Disabled Adults
Regarding Vicky's post below:
>We (Youth services) have had a request to go to an Adult Day care and read
>stories and poems to adults with dementia.
>How do other libraries handle requests of this sort? I really feel it is
>outside the realm of our expertise - and feel uncomfortable equating
>disabled adults with children.
I no longer work in a public library, so I will not comment on
labor/services/costs of children's departments supporting this type of
activity. However, I do freelance programming for children and by
"accident" (I was practicing my oral storytelling with my grandfather,
a
resident of the nursing home and soon the entire group of residents got
hooked) started doing StoryTimes programming for older adults with various
degrees of dementia at a nursing home. I never thought of equating
disabled adults with children; I thought of what could I do to bring these
older adults closer to their children and grandchildren.
I do the programming on two different units (where the stage of dementia
ranges from mild to severe). I do NOT read stories and poems per se,
rather I do what ever type of program of would do with preschoolers and
grades K-2. This includes: picture books, flannel boards, songs and oral
storytelling. We don't do crafts! The programs run 30-45 minutes
depending on the group's attention span. The familiarity and structure of
the program certainly works: the groups of 16-24 people are engaged and
frankly respond just as the preschoolers and other children do in a
StoryTimes program. The only difference is that I insist that there are
the appropriate number of nurses aides in the room with me should one of
the residents get confused or agitated or want to wander off. (Typically,
there are two aides in the room with me.) I have never felt it was out of
my expertise to do these programs with this population. But, I did observe
and visit each unit before I began the programming.
Further, the nursing home has now expanded the program to include (adult)
children, grandchildren and great-grandchildren. This program is usually
held on Sundays (whereas the other programs are held during the week). I
am still a great supporter of public libraries and the ALA and never miss
an opportunity to promote both at these programs (via posters, bookmarks,
or just reminding folks what's going on at the public library).
Well, I think my nickel is up...please feel free to contact me directly
should anyone have any questions.
Karen...who feels very fortunate that I can do this for my grandfather who
always read to me...
Karen L. Simonetti
email: karensue@mcs.net
phone: 312.337.7114
"Walk gently, breathe peacefully, laugh hysterically."
Nelson Mandela, 1994 Inaugural Speech
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:54:07 1998
From: Elaine Williams <williael@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Thanks--Alligator/Croc Activities (LONG)
Dear Pubyakkers--
A big thank-you to all who sent alligator and crocodile songs, poems,
fingerplays, and other activities to me in my time of need!! Sorry it's
taken me so long to compile these, but here goes:
I got no less than 24 versions of "Five Monkeys Sitting in a Tree."
Sometimes the monkeys were "little," sometimes "cheeky."
Sometimes there
were only 3 monkeys, not 5. Here's one of the 24 versions:
Three little monkeys sitting in a tree (hold up 3 fingers)
Teasing Mr. Crocodile (thumbs in ears, wiggle fingers)
You can't catch me! (point to self/chest)
Along comes Mr. Crocodile
With his mouth open wide (hold arms out, hands flat together, spread
slowly)
SNAP! (clap hands together)
One little monkey (hold up one finger)
Down inside (rub tummy)
(repeat with other monkeys)
NEVER SMILE AT A CROCODILE (from musical PETER PAN - received 2 versions)
Never smile at a crocodile
No you can't be friendly with a crocodile
Don't be taken in by his welcoming grin
He's imagining how well you fit within his skin
Never smile at a crocodile
Never tip your hat or stop to talk awhile
Never run--walk away
Say good night, not good day
Just remember--never smile at Mr. Crocodile
HERE COMES THE HUNGRY CROCODILE
Here comes the hungry crocodile with his sly toothy smile
So swim fast, fish (hands weave back and forth)
Birds, fly away (raise hands, wiggle fingers)
Move along, turtles and crabs (wiggle fingers)
Hurry on your way (wiggle hands away from body)
For here comes the hungry crocodile with his sly toothy smile
Going CHOMP CHOMP CHOMP in the swamp swamp swamp
ALLIGATOR PIE
Alligator pie, alligator pie
If I don't get some,
I think I'm gonna die!
Give away the green grass,
Give away the sky,
But don't give away my
Alligator pie!
Alligator stew, alligator stew
If I don't get some I don't know what I'll do
Give away my furry hat, give away my shoe
But don't give away my alligator stew!
Alligator soup, alligator soup
If I don't get some I think I'm gonna droop
Give away my hockey-stick, give away my hoop
But don't give away my alligator soup!
THE ALLIGATOR ELEVATOR
An alligator went for an elevator ride
Said the elevator operator, "Step inside" (pretend to open door, step
in)
First floor, second floor, up and down (drop low, slowly come up, then go
up & down quickly)
It's the only alligator elevator in town! (come up slowly from the down
position)
There was an alligator (snap arms together like jaws)
Who sat on a log (fold arms one on top of the other to form log)
He looked in the water (cup hands around eyes)
And saw a little frog
In went the alligator (make diving motion)
Round went the log (spin arms around)
Splash! went the water (throw hands up)
And away swam the frog! (swimming motion)
Hey-hey-hey there, croc-o-dile
Stay a-way from me
Hey-hey-hey there, croc-o-dile
Swim out to the sea
Hey-hey-hey there, croc-o-dile
Please go the other way
Hey-hey-hey there, croc-o-dile
You're cha-sing me away
She sailed away on a sunny summer's day
On the back of a crocodile
"You see," said she, "he's as tame as he can be"
As she paddled down the Nile
The croc winked an eye as the lady waved goodbye
Wearing a happy smile
At the end of the ride,
The lady was inside
And the smile was on the crocodile
(received three versions of this)
This one was written by Texan librarian Trudy Terry:
Alligator one, alligator two
I'm going to stomp my alligator shoes
(hold up one, then two fingers & stomp feet)
Alligator three and alligator four
I'm going to give my alligator roar
(hold up fingers, roar three times)
Alligator five and alligator six
I'm going to do some alligator tricks
(hold up fingers, pretend to juggle)
Alligator seven and alligator eight
I'm going to climb the alligator gate
(hold up fingers, make climbing motion)
Alligator nine and alligator ten
This must be the alligator end
(hold up fingers, clap hands, & turn around. Booty shaking optional!)
ALLIGATOR FRIEND
(clap your hands together in front, like an alligator mouth)
The alligator is my friend
He could be your friend, too
If only you could understand
That he has feelings too
(flip your hands over)
The alligator laughs and plays
He never sings the blues
I'd rather have him as my friend
Than wear him as my shoes
(throw your hands in the air)
Alligator!
Alligator!
(point to the kids)
could be your friend
could be your friend
could be your friend, too!
HERE COMES THE CROCODILE
Here comes the crocodile SNAP! SNAP! SNAP!
Wearing a great big smile SNAP! SNAP! SNAP!
He'll give you a fright!
He likes to bite!
Here comes the crocodile SNAP! SNAP! SNAP!
(Use big arms to make croc jaws on snap snap snap
Make a scary face on "fright"
Open mouth wide and snap it shut on "bite")
HOW TO TELL THEM APART
Alligator has a broad, broad nose
Crocodile's is thin
But both of them are dangerous
When they begin to grin
TOOTHY CROCODILE
There was a toothy crocodile
Who wallowed in the muck
Counting up how many
Of his many teeth were buck
One day he'd count to 29
The next day 52
For counting teeth of crocodiles
Is difficult to do
Flamingoes, quite by accident,
Would walk across his brain
But the slightest interruption
Meant he had to start again
So time went by, and thus
The counting crocodile grew thinner
Because the alligators ate
The crocodile's dinner
While he was much too busy
With a cavern to explore
"Twenty-seven?
Sixty-six?
One hundred thirty-four?"
And as the years slipped quickly by
He shriveled in his skin
Weeping for the life he'd had
And one that might have been
"If pink, long-legged bird-brains
Hadn't stumbled in the muck,
I might have figured it out," He said,
"How many teeth were buck!"
DID YOU EVER SEE AN ALLIGATOR? (to tune of Did You Ever See a Lassie?)
Did you ever see an alligator
An alligator, an alligator
Did you ever see an alligator
With great big sharp teeth?
He lies still all day
And winks at his prey
Did you ever see an alligator
With great big sharp teeth?
Did you ever see an alligator
An Alligator, an alligator
Did you ever see an alligator
With great big sharp teeth?
He's fat and he's green
And oh, so mean
Did you ever see an alligator
With great big sharp teeth?
HOW DOTH THE LITTLE CROCODILE
How doth the little crocodile
Improve his shining tail
And pour the waters of the Nile
On every golden scale!
How cheerfully he seems to grin
How neatly spreads his claws
And welcomes little fishes in
With greatly smiling jaws
AN ALLIGATOR AND A CROCODILE (to tune of Polly Wolly Doodle)
Oh, can you tell me some facts about an alligator and a crocodile?
Oh, the one that has a rounded snout is an alligator, not a crocodile
Crocodile, crocodile
Has a very pointed nose
They go swimming with their tails
And they both have lots of scales
And webs between their toes.
Oh can you recall what you've heard said of
An alligator and a crocodile?
Oh, the one that has a big broad head is
An alligator, not a crocodile.
Crocodile, crocodile
Has a narrow head, it's true
And they both eat lots of meat
With their strong jaws and sharp teeth
And if you're not careful, they'll eat you!
ALLIGATOR/CROCODILE ACTIVITIES
Crocodile Crawl (from Family Fun Magazine): Players lie on their bellies
about five feet apart from each other. The object is to wiggle across the
floor (tummy touching) and tag all players with your hand before they tag
you.
Use an Ellison die cut machine to cut out teeth from different colors of
paper. Have a tooth matching game with them.
Flannelboard stories: Highlights Magazine, March 1994 "It's Your Turn,
Sally Gator."
"Little Bunny and the Crocodile" from one of the Totline Books.
"The Monkey and the Crocodiles" from July 1995 Highlights Magazine.
Egg Hunt: Use pastel plastic Easter eggs. Cut shapes of alligators,
crocodiles, and/or other reptiles from fun foam, place in eggs, and hide
eggs.
Clothespin Alligator:
Supplies: one clothespin with spring per alligator
long piece of string (3 or 4 feet)
toothpick
small picture of an alligator (same length as clothespin)
Let children color small picture of alligator. Glue alligator to the top
of the clip.
RESOURCES
book - ALLIGATOR PIE AND OTHER POEMS
"The Alligator's Brushing His Teeth" - no source given for this poem
Riggers, Maxine AMAZING ALLIGATORS AND OTHER STORY HOUR FRIENDS. 1990
Cole, Jane. I'M A LITTLE TEAPOT. 1996
Lee, Dennis. ALLIGATOR PIE
Prelutsky, Jack. ZOO DOINGS: ANIMAL POEMS. 1983
Prelutsky, Jack, compiler. FOR LAUGHING OUT LOUDER. (poems)
Prelutsky, Jack, compiler. THE BEAUTY OF THE BEAST. (poems)
Hart, Marj. FOLD-AND-CUT STORIES AND FINGERPLAYS. Contains "Molly the
Monkey and the Crocodile."
Galdone, Paul. THE MONKEY AND THE CROCODILE.
BEASTLY BANQUET (book) contains poem "Crocodile Bird" by Peggy
Munsterberg.
Cole, William, compiler. A ZOOFUL OF ANIMALS. Contains poem "Crocodile
or Alligator" by Colin West.
Thanks again, everyone!
Elaine Williams
Children's Librarian
Lynchburg, OH
williael@oplin.lib.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:54:46 1998
From: pbecks@mail.ms.falmouth.k12.me.us (Peggy Becksvoort)
ubject: Re: Service to Disabled Adults
Dear Vicky,
My own mother is 89 years old and her moments of lucidity are sporadic.
What she does enjoy is hearing poetry, some of which she remembers having
memorized when she was young. I am 300 miles away and am not able to go to
her and read. I would bless anyone kind enough to do that for her. She
would enjoy: The egg and I, by Betty MacDonald, poetry by Browning, The
five little Peppers, and other books which were the staple of her
childhood. So, while the request may seem daunting, believe me it would be
appreciated by many. This is also a service which several of my library
firends have talked about providing for our retired library sisters whose
vision is failing. Anyone else doing this?
Peg Becksvoort
Falmouth Middle School Library
52 Woodville Rd.
Falmouth, ME 04105
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:54:52 1998
From: "Adrienne Furness (LOC)" <adge@nioga.org>
Subject: Re: Internet Classes for Parents
Paula,
The Center for Missing and Exploited Children puts out a great pamphlet,
"Child Safety on the Information Highway." A full-text version is
available on their web page (www.missingkids.com). You can order 50 copies
for free from the Center (1-800-the-lost). We have copies near our
Internet terminals for people to take. We have also been handing them out
at our Beginning Internet workshops. We've found that many of the people
attending are concerned about their children's use of the Internet, and
they seem to find the pamphlet helpful. Hope this helps!
*************************************
Adrienne Furness
Reference and Children's Librarian
Lockport Public Library
Lockport, New York
*************************************
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Children's librarians wrote:
> Our library is planning a brochure, a web site, and hour-long classes for
> parents, to help them feel more confident about having their children use
> the Internet (and helping them use it). The course will focus less on
> Internet how-to and more on "Internet Safety" including e-mail
and chat
> rooms, as well as information about filters. We (the future presenters)
> are still learning ourselves, and would appreciate any information on the
> following topics:
> 1. For libraries which have done this course, what topics were parents most
> interested in, or most happy that you covered?
> 2. Where can we find information about listservs and chat rooms that are
> kid-oriented?
> 3. Same for search engines -- I'm aware of Yahooligans, but are there other
> search engines geared to sites for children, or ones which you think are
> easiest for children to use?
> 4. I am going to begin looking at sites which offer up-to-date reviews of
> filters as well as up-to-date "kid-friendly" sites (we do have
all the
> information about ALA's sites).
> 5. Do you have any favorite sites for explaining Internet Safety to
parents?
> We appreciate answers to these questions and any other related information.
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Paula Davidson, Bozeman Public Library, Montana:
> children@mtlib.org
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 10:55:59 1998
From: Judy Rosenberg <jrosenbe@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
ubject: storytelling to adults
I would like to respond to the question posed about telling stories to
senior adults afflicted with dementia. My pov may be diferent, because I
have worked both in children's and adult services and have a daughter
currently working with a senior dementia population. I also have a firm
commitment to library outreach, as well as in-building services.
The first question I would pose is: does your public have a right to expect
storytelling services on an outreach basis from your library? Is is
something you are able to offer to groups within your library's staffing
needs?
If you do, granted that the audience would be adult, do you have adult
services staff members trained in storytelling? How do you respond to
storytelling requests for other adult groups, such as women's clubs, school
meetings, etc.? Is your response to thsi request in keeping with your
response to those other groups? Or is your main concern really the dementia
aspect and not the storytelling to adults?
My guess is that only the children's people are trained storytellers, and
that unless your community has a storytelling group, no adult group would
have the joy of hearing stories unless you provide them. An adult dementia
group is not being equated with children. Those folks have usually
retreated in their minds to their younger days, and staff who work with them
find that stimulating with experiences from those days can bring on clear
moments, moments of joy and recognition in them. You may see behaviors in
this group like talking out or random movements or falling asleep. Chances
are you see the same thing with your preschoolers!
I have told stories to all ages, together or separately; I have told stories
to adults in jail. And I would not trade those experiences. The joy of
sharing storires with any group is a gift for the stoyteller AND the
audience.
I know you wrote about deciding to limit your department's service to
baby-grade 8. Would you then not serve a parent or teacher who walked into
your department? Of course you would. So think again about refusing to
serve this adult group.
Talk to the staff about what to expect in terms of behavior.
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Name: Judith Rosenberg
E-mail: Judith Rosenberg <jrosenbe@ascpl.lib.oh.us>
Date: 2/12/98
Time: 9:37:32 AM
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Judith Campbell Rosenberg
Youth Services Coordinator
Akron-Summit Co. Public Library
55 S. Main St. Akron OH 44326
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 11:02:38 1998
From: Kathleen Bush <bushk@pls.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Internet Classes for Parents
Here is a site that gives you 8 search tools that allow searches of
"kidsafe" Web sites. You can do your search on any of the eight that
come
up on the screen and the results will be "kid safe".
www.rcls.org/ksearch.htm
Kathy Bush
On Tue, 10 Feb 1998, Children's librarians wrote:
> Our library is planning a brochure, a web site, and hour-long classes for
> parents, to help them feel more confident about having their children use
> the Internet (and helping them use it). <snip>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 12:06:14 1998
From: "Marjorie Karp" <karp@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Dr. Seuss Birthday Party
Hi everyone out there. My library is hosting a Dr. Seuss Birthday
Party and I'm aware that many librarians did the same last year for
the 40th aniversary. Was there any activity or arts n craft that was
a good success that you could share with us? We have contacted
Random House for freebies and also visited Seussville. We just
wondered what other ideas you might be able to offer us. We are
thanking you in advance for your help. Margi Karp Opperer.
karp@tln.lib.mi.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 12:33:12 1998
From: Cindy Patterson <cindy@billings.lib.mt.us>
Subject: Stumper - magical fute in cave
I have a patron who is looking for a book she read in the 70's. It sounds
so familiar but I just can't put my finger on it. I have searched A to
Zoo, the WLN database and several other places so would appreciate any
help. Please respond directly to me. Thanks! Her description follows:
-I think the book was laid out horizontally
-the main character was a boy retrieving a magical(?) flute from a
cave-like area
-the cave had a river, trees(?) and gargoyles(?)
-I believe the gargoyles were sleeping, maybe guarding the flute
-when the boy had the flute the gargoyles came to life to stop him
-the gargoyles drank the water in the river in an attempt to stop
him
-the book may have had an Asian influence to it
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* Cindy Patterson *
* Youth Services Librarian *
* Parmly Billings Library *
* 510 N. Broadway *
* Billings, MT 59101 *
* Voice: (406) 657-8256 *
* Fax: (406) 657-8293 *
* cindy@billings.lib.mt.us *
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 12:33:09 1998
From: Rebecca OConnell <oconnellr@clpgh.org>
Subject: Stumper: contradictions poem
A patron is looking for a poem she read many years ago in an illustrated
anthology of poetry for children.
The poem contains the lines
Ladies and gentlemen
Hobos and Tramps
Crosseyed mosquitos and
Bowlegged Ants
These may be the first lines. OR, the first lines might be
I stand before you
To sit behind you
The whole poem is a nonsense story of contradictions (something like the folk
song Oh, Susannah.)
We've checked Grangers Index and the newer Columbia Grangers and the ALA
Subject index to Poetry 1957-75.
Thank you for any help you can provide in locating this poem.
Please e-mail me at oconnellr@clpgh.org
Thanks,
Rebecca O'Connell
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 12:33:19 1998
From: Susan McGowan <smcgowan@nslsilus.org>
ubject: Stumper: old children's songs
Does anyone have the words to these two old (40's-50's) children's songs
from unknown recordings?
1) Katy (Katie?) the Kangaroo
-the lyrics included, "She wanted to live in a private house, so she went
to live in the
zoo" and the refrain was, "I'm Katy, I'm Katy, the affable (?) lady,
I'm
Katy the kangaroo."
2)Don't Put Things In Your Mouth (not even your thumb)
TIA!!
Susan McGowan
Head of Reference
Morton Grove Public Library
Morton Grove, IL
(847) 965-4220
smcgowan@mgk.nslsilus.org
http://www.webrary.org
Opinions expressed are those of the author and do not necessarily reflect
official Library policy.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 13:05:29 1998
From: Anna Wall <awall@connect.bedlib.org>
Subject: Books on Responsibility
We are looking for books that deal with responsibility for children in
grades 1 and 2.
I have looked in ESLC, Children's Cat, and A to Zoo. _Horton Hatches the
Egg_ and _Annie shows off_ by Shelagh Canning are the only hits so far.
Anyone have any suggestions?
Thanks
Anna Wall
Bedford Public Library
awall@bedlib.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 14:02:49 1998
From: "Kate Nafz" <knafz@hotmail.com>
Subject: Stumper Response--Doll Eating Dragon
Thank you so much to everyone who provided the answer to my stumper
about the dragon who ate dolls and whose tail grew and wrapped around a
mountain. The answer is The Funny Thing by Wanda Gag. We have a copy
in our library, so I was able to instantly put the book in the patron's
hands. She was thrilled and so was I. Thanks Again!
Kate Nafz
Maurice M. Pine Free Public Library
Fair Lawn, New Jersey
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 15:02:41 1998
From: Evighet@aol.com
Subject: Ice Cream Stumper
We had a young woman in the children's Room
last night looking for all the verses of the "Ice Cream
poem." We looked through all our books and the
internet, but could find nothing more than the
original "I Scream, You scream, we all scream
for Ice Cream." She says that she remembers
other verses covering differnet flavors.
Can anyone help us out there? Has anyone
heard of any of these other verses. Any help
would be greatly appreciated and wowed
over. :)
Thanks!
Chris Jahnke
Great River Regional Library
St. Cloud, MN 56303
evighet@aol.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 16:02:02 1998
From: jcanosa@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
Subject: Chendru/boy&tiger stumper solved!!
Thanks to all you wrote re: my stumper request about a boy & his
tiger. The information is as follows:
Chendru: The Boy and the Tiger
written & photographed by
Astrid Bergman Sucksdorff
(apparently the jacket credits Arne Sucksdorff, but a note in the bib
record corrects this)
English version by William Sansom
NY, Harcort Brace, 1960
translation of Chendru et son tigre
Thanks again!
Jean
Jean Canosa Albano, MLIS
jcanosa@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
Young Adult Services
Springfield (MA) City Library
"Every woman in love thinks her man looks like Superman." ---Lois Lane
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 16:04:17 1998
From: JEckert <JEckert@wmrls.org>
Subject: FW: Program Announcement: Turf Wars: Territorial Issues within the
The following announcement is being posted to several listservs. Please
pardon duplicate messages.
The Youth Services Section of the Massachusetts Library Association
(MLA/YSS) is hosting a half-day program on Wednesday, March 18th (snow date
is March 25th) titled "Turf Wars: Territorial Issues Within the
Library".
This program will be held at the Shrewsbury Public Library from 9:30 a.m.
to 1:00 p.m.
Join a panel of experienced colleagues and expert moderator, Professor
Margaret Bush (Simmons College GSLIS) for plenty of lively interaction!
Bring your library counterpart and receive a special registration price!
This forum for youth and adult services librarians will focus on space,
service and budget conflicts, especially pertaining to middle graders.
Where does the children's collection leave off and the YA or adult
collection begin? Which budget must support curriculum needs?
A registration form is printed below. For additional information, contact
Alyson Cox, Chair of MLA/YSS, at the Northborough Free Library. Phone
508-393-5025; Fax: 508-393-5027; e-mail: acox@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
Turf Wars Registration Form - Please print and fill out a separate
registration for each
person:
NAME ___________________________________________________________________
Library_________________________________________________________________
ADDRESS_________________________________________________________________
CITY________________________________________STATE________ZIP____________
PHONE__________________FAX____________________EMAIL_____________________
$20 MLA MEMBER____ $30 NONMEMBER____
$5.00 discount per person if you register with a fellow staff member from
another department.
Print and send completed form with payment by March 1st to:
Massachusetts Library Association
Countryside Offices
707 Turnpike St.
North Andover, MA 01845
************************************************************************
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Directions to the Shrewsbury Public Library (609 Main St., Shrewsbury, MA
01069 (508) 842-0081) - From I-290, exit onto Rte. 140 South; approximately
1.5 miles to library. Library is at corner of Main St. and Rt. 140. For
this meeting, please do not park in library lot. Please park near church
across Rte. 140 or next to library at Credit Union.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 16:03:00 1998
From: "Margaret Collins"<mcollin@ccgate.sos.state.il.us>
Subject: Rebecca Bingham
Kudos to President Clinton on the appointment of Rebecca Bingham to
the NATIONAL COMMISSION ON LIBRARIES AND INFORMATION SCIENCE!
Rebecca Bingham has a distinguished history in ALA and BCALA.
She has received her MLS at Indiana University and has held positions
at: Tuskegee A&M College, Tuskegee Institute, Jarvis Christian
College, Indiana PL.
She also served as a school librarian and Supervisor of Media
Services, Louisville, KY Public Schools.
She has received many awards and honors.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Feb 12 16:46:33 1998
From: Esther Murphy <emurphy@ala.org>
Subject: ALA Needs Answers (with attachment)
1,500 public library directors will receive packets from ALA this week
containing the two surveys described in the following press release. All
public libraries serving populations of 100,000 or more were included
plus a stratified random sample of smaller public libraries.
>
A cover memo from ALA Acting Director, Mary Ghikas, asks the public
library directors to answer a few basic questions and to ask the
person(s) most knowledgeable about programming to complete the
questionnaires. If your library receives one of these packets, please
respond promptly. This is your opportunity to influence how the two
Reader's Digest Funds invest in public libraries and to provide useful
information to the public library community.
>
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attachment:
Press Release --
Wallace-Reader's Digest Funds to underwrite public library surveys
The DeWitt Wallace-Reader's Digest Fund and Lila
Wallace-Reader's Digest Fund have awarded grants totaling $146,000 to
the American Library Association (ALA) to conduct surveys on the
status of programming in public libraries nationwide.
The surveys will identify the types and extent of educational and
enrichment programs for school-age youth and explore the range of
cultural programs for adults.
"We are delighted to have this opportunity to find out more about
what libraries are currently doing to support the positive development of
young people and the different ways they are providing adults and
families access to quality cultural programs," said Barbara Ford, ALA
president. "We expect the responses will not only be useful to the
Wallace-Reader's Digest Funds but also to the library field overall."
M. Christine DeVita, president of the Wallace-Reader's Digest
Funds said, "We continue to be impressed by the changing role of public
libraries in their communities and their willingness to add new programs
to what they already offer. We are eager to learn how we can help
further this effort."
Survey results will be used by the respective funds to inform
future grant-making initiatives designed to help expand, enhance and
improve educational and cultural programs that public libraries offer their
communities.
The Lila Wallace-Reader's Digest Fund recently approved a $1
million grant to ALA in support of "Live at the Library," a multi-year
initiative that will expand the role of libraries as cultural centers in their
communities.ALA's Office for Research and Statistics will manage the
survey on youth programs in cooperation with two ALA divisions, the
Association for Library Service to Children (ALSC) and the Young Adult
Library Services Association (YALSA). ALA's office of Public Programs
will manage the survey of adult cultural programs, working with Debra
Wilcox Johnson, of Johnson & Johnson Consulting.
Working closely with ALA, the Library Research Center of the
University of Illinois will process and analyze the surveys. The surveys
will be mailed in February to all public libraries serving populations of
100,000 or more and to a random sample of smaller libraries.
The DeWitt Wallace-Reader's Digest Fund invests in programs to
foster fundamental improvements in the quality of educational and
career-development opportunities for school-age youth. The fund also
increases access to these improved services for young people in
low-income communities. The Lila Wallace-Reader's Digest Fund invests
in programs that enhance the cultural life of communities and encourage
people to make the arts and culture an active part of their everyday lives.
The Chicago-based American Library Association (ALA) works
to promote the highest quality library and information service. Its 57,000
members represent all types of libraries--public, school, academic and
special.
For more information about the DeWitt Wallace survey of youth
programs, contact Mary Jo Lynch. Telephone: 800-545-2433. ext. 4273.
Fax: 312-280-3255. E-mail: mlynch@ala.org. For information about the
Lila Wallace survey of adult cultural programming, contact Deb
Robertson. Telephone: 800-545-2433 ext. 5057. Fax: 312-944-2404.
E-mail: drobertson@ala.org.
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