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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:07:51 1998
From: PAULAL@rpls.lib.il.us
Subject: tiger mask pattern?


I'll be using Julius Lester's book "Sam and the Tigers" with K-2nd
graders at the end of this month. I'd like to include a painting craft.
Does anyone have a tiger face mask pattern? I'm thinking of something that
could be run through the copier and painted by the children. I'd appreciate
any suggestions. Please answer me at paulal@alpha1.rpls.lib.il.us,
If you have a pattern you'd be willing to fax, my library's fax number is
217-935-4425. Thanks very much!
Paula Lopatic
Vespasian Warner Public Library
Clinton, IL


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:10:35 1998
From: "Evonda Copeland" <evonda@hotmail.com>
Subject: Story idea needed for Star theme


Hello, PUBYACers!

I'm looking for an audience participation story for grades 1-3 with a
star or sky theme. Also needed: fingerplays, songs, and related
activities for the "star" or "sky" theme.

Please send your suggestions to me at evonda@hotmail.com. I promise to
post all of the results for others who are interested.

TIA!

Evonda Copeland
evonda@hotmail.com
Brown County Library-Pulaski Branch
222 West Pulaski St.
Pulaski, WI 54162
(920) 822-3220
FAX (920) 822-5589


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:10:53 1998
From: Laurie Precht CCPL <lauriep@ccpl.carr.lib.md.us>
Subject: Re: Lewis picture books, etc.


On the subject of picture books being made into board books:
I am thrilled that some of the easier picture books (ie: Snowy Day, Carl,
Very Hungry Catepillar, Big Red Barn, etc.) are being published as
cardboard books. They circulate well at my branch. Sometimes parents
are more comfortable with giving their children the cardboard versions
instead of the regular editions because "my child is hard on books."
This way the child can hold the book, look through it, and, yes, even
leave it on the ground instead of it being placed out of reach for fear
that the pages will be torn or the cover destroyed.
Of course the content of some cardboard books will be out of the range
for infants and toddlers, but these aren't the only patrons using this
format. I often see 4 or 5 year olds browsing in that section (strange,
but true!)
Laurie Precht, Taneytown Library, MD lauriep@ccpl.carr.org


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:07:48 1998
From: Manitowoc Public Library <pubserv@lakefield.net>
Subject: Water Theme YA SRP


Hello! I have gotten some wonderful ideas from pubyac in the past so I
thought I'd try everyone again:
We are having a water theme SRP "Make Waves Read!" and I am trying to
come up with some ideas for YA programs. Has anyone out there done
anything in the past that worked or have any ideas?
Thanks!
Connie James-Jenkin
Manitowoc Public Library
Manitowoc, WI
pubserv@lakefield.net


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:07:54 1998
From: cathy ryne <cryne@sierramadre.lib.ca.us>
ubject: Internet Bookmarks


Thank you to everyone who answered my question regarding management of
Internet bookmarks for both reference and staff use. I am enclosing the
wonderful suggestions that I received! Thank you again! Cathy Ryne



Cathy--I know of a library that apparently has categorized their
bookmarks in Dewey order! I haven't tried it--seems that this scheme
would be of limited usefulness to patrons, but might be perfect for
librarians to use at the reference desk! If you have questions about
how to do this, let me know and I'll round up some instructions.

Ann Perrigo--Director, Children's Librarian, etc.
Allegan (MI) Public Library

I organize our bookmarks by creating folders by subject. For example,
all of our business bookmarks are together in one folder. We have
Netscape, and when you click on bookmarks and go to "business", all of the
bookmarks are brought up and you can click on the one you want.

Also, I am putting together a rolodex at the reference desk for sites on
various subjects. Hope this helps you.


If you are using Netscape, under bookmarks, you select view bookmarks and
from there you can create and named your own folders. Then, after you have
bookmarked various sites, you simple reopen view bookmarks and drop and drag
the bookmarks into the appropriate folders. It is very easy and very useful.
Claudia Livolsi
Children's Librarian
Monroe Public Library
Monroe, CT
clivolsi@biblio.org

We started out by creating lots of subject "folders" (this is a feature of
Netscape in the Bookmark facility).
You can also save your bookmark files on a floppy disc if you need to eg.
to send the same bookmarks to a branch library.

This became a bit too unwieldy so now we have created a home page that
includes several pages of useful bookmarks arranged by subject. It's easy
to update and accessible at all locations this way without duplicating
anything.



Regards, Mylee


Mylee Joseph

Children's and Youth Services Librarian / Internet Training Centre
Coordinator
Liverpool City Library PO Bag 170 Liverpool Business Centre, NSW 2170
Australia
phone: + 61 2 9821 9446 fax: + 61 2 9821 9456



Hello. We had several problems with our staff bookmarks.
1. There were a ton of them
2. You would be looking for an answer and want a bookmark that was on a
different computer.

The way I delt with it was to work with staff to come up with a staff
reference page. This is a page that is not nessesarily available to the
public. I am not sure if this was a solution that you were looking for.
But it has worked pretty well for us.

The reference stuff is in its own nested folder. So I can (in the
future) put different subjects on different pages. The web sites that are
on our staff page answer some of our most asked questions. As a design
point the staff page is plain and functional when the public pages are
more fancy.

Here is the URL for our home page and our "staff" page.
home: http://www.htls.lib.il.us/JPB/
staff: http://www.htls.lib.il.us/JPB/staff/


Good luck, Catherine

How about individual files for personal favorites and general files for
reference help, maybe labeled by subject? Don't worry too much about
updating as long as you are using the sites--when they get old or change
URL's you will know when you use it and can change it then. Or you can
run through them periodically when you have time to keep them up (similar
to weeding a collection, I guess). Have fun!
am a student at Indiana University and we had a similar problem with too
many bookmarks on the reference desk computers in an undergraduate
library. Their solution was to create a web site with categories and
within those categories have the frequently used bookmarks. Of course,
this is with input from the reference librarians and reference assistants.
Then the bookmarks, except for one or two big ones, get dumped every day.
So that is one possibility.

Maeleah Carlisle


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:13:43 1998
From: Allison Ho <allisony@unixg.ubc.ca>
Subject: Sno-Isle Regional Library System


Hello PUBYAC:

I am hoping to find out more about the Sno-Isle Regional Library System,
primarily as there are current job opportunities with the system for a
Children's Librarian.

Are you/were till recently a staff member of this library system?
Would you tell me about your experience and the general Sno-Isle area?

I have checked out the Sno-Isle Internet site, and the area sounds really
beautiful and vibrant. I've never been there (I'm from British Columbia
Canada) and am also wondering what is the "Washington State Librarian
Certificate."

Please reply directly to me at "allisony@unixg.ubc.ca"
Thank you very much.

Allison :)
***************************************************
Allison Ho, Graduate Student
School of Library, Archival and Information Studies
University of British Columbia
Vancouver, BC
E-mail: allisony@unixg.ubc.ca




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:07:50 1998
From: SCHAFFNERP@aadl.annarbor.lib.mi.us
Subject: watered down books


I also have been discouraged by the picture-booking of everything. If
C.S. Lewis had wanted to write picture books, he would have done so. He
didn't. The Little House books can be read to children as young as four
(my daughter and I read them then, and again when she was eight, and now
she's ten and has read them all many times). The Narnia books can be read
aloud to an early elementary age child. Most preschoolers have time. They
can wait a few years for the real thing. Many classics are beyond reading
ability but not beyond comprehension; what a wonderful opportunity for a
read-aloud parents and children can both appreciate!
Paula Schaffner, Ann Arbor District Library, Ann Arbor MI
schaffnerp@aadl.annarbor.lib.mi.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:07:54 1998
From: cheneyp@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: Thanks re:Storytime Surveys!


I would like to thank the following people: Caitlin Dixon, Gail
Terwilliger, Holly Ward Lamb, Jonathan Ben-Zall (sp?), and Babette
Wofter for sending me examples of their storytime surveys! They were
all very helpful! We're going to coordinate all the information and
produce a survey for the end of winter session! Thanks again!

Patti Cheney
cheneyp@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:14:09 1998
From: PFD Susan Erhardt <pfdse@lakeland.lib.mi.us>
Subject: abridged classics


Okay, I don't really understand what on earth the big deal is about. Who
cares if they only read an abridgement of _Oliver Twist_ and never tackle
the real one? Heck, I've never had any interest in reading the real one!
Here's a radical idea: I buy lots of copies of books I consider "yucky" --
Disney's Winnie the Pooh, abridged classics, Where's Waldo, series
paperbacks, "Franklin" books, "Chicken Soup for Little Souls", etc --
because people ASK for them. Isn't that what we're here for -- to help
people read what THEY want to read? When someone asks me, "Do you have an
abridged copy of _Moby Dick_?" I answer "Yes I do and here it is!" with a
big smile.

Susan Erhardt
Youth Services
Kent District Library
Grand Rapids, Michigan, U.S.A.
pfdse@lakeland.lib.mi.us

*opinions are entirely my own and may not reflect those of the library!*


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:07:52 1998
From: Lisa Kochik <lkochik@argos.sebridge.org>
ubject: Publisher trends to "younger" versions


Another trend my library noted:

Board Book versions of popular older reader titles (i.e. the Arthur Board
Books). The format of board books is really for babies and toddlers, yet
the content of these board book "adapted" versions lacks appeal for that
audience. I guess parents and others may buy them because of the popularity
of the books for older children and the marketing, marketing, marketing.
Maybe publishers are going too far with the "younging down" of materials.

--Lisa Kochik
lkochik@argos.sebridge.org


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:12:02 1998
From: "Gordon Riley" <gdriley@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Friends(?) of the Library


Be careful! There are many HORROR stories about Friends getting out of
control and trying to run the library. I got fired for doing exactly
what my director told me to do, because it caused an uproar among the
Fiends of the Library. It got us both called on the carpet by the
board, and the fiends influenced the board to believe that getting rid
of me was the only solution that would appease them.

Gordon Riley, Media Center Coordinator
Goldsboro High School, Goldsboro, North Carolina
Former Head of Branch Services, Goldsboro's County Library

The opinions expressed are my own!

"It's all about sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made."
Former NFL Head Coach Monte Clark


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:12:12 1998
From: csp@jcls.org (Christine Perkins)
ubject: Re: Internet Bookmarks



At Jackson County Library in Medford, OR, we use Netscape bookmarks on our
staff Internet terminals, with folders for different subjects. We also have
a rolodex next to each staff terminal to jot down URLs by subject for
websites which may not warrant an electronic bookmark. We make sure to
write the date on each card to let us know when the site was first identified.

One great feature of Netscape bookmarks is the "What's New" function. When
you select "What's New," Netscape automatically checks your bookmark and
highlights those with addresses that have changed.

We also offer Netscape bookmarks on our patron terminals. We have them
grouped by subject, such as "Search Engines and Tutorials," "Quick
Reference," "Language Arts," etc. Kids find these easy to use, since the
bookmarks lead them to sites we've already identified as being useful and
kid-friendly.

We keep a paper copy of the electronic bookmarks next to the Internet
terminal in a binder, in case our terminal is in use and another patron
wants to know a good URL. We also print out the first page of any useful
sites (with the URLs in the header) for which we do not have bookmarks and
keep them in the binder.

If anyone is interested in a copy of our bookmark selection criteria or our
Children's Deparment Internet bookmarks, I'd be happy to send you a copy.
E-mail me at: csp@jcls.org.

Hope this helps.

--Christine Perkins
............................................
Christine Perkins
Reference Librarian
Jackson County Library Services
413 W. Main St. Medford, OR 97501
(541) 776-7281 csp@jcls.org
............................................


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:07:52 1998
From: "Bette Ammon" <bammon@mtlib.org>
Subject: Re: Internet Bookmarks


Here at Missoula Public Library, we too take turns staffing the
reference desk and have a couple of solutions to the Internet
bookmarking dilemma. Our techie has designed a system for remote
logins - I can sit at the reference desk and log in as me - this
accesses my own Internet bookmarks plus my own Word files, etc.

Another solution - one of our reference librarians has his own
homepage on our internal system - it is designed (and ever changing)
to have links to the sites he uses the most - switchboard.com,
Ebscohost, etc.

Bette Ammon


Bette Ammon, Director http://www.marsweb.com/~mslaplib
Missoula Public Library 406.721.2005
301 E Main fax 406.728.5900
Missoula MT 59802 bammon@mtlib.org

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:11:36 1998
From: "Gordon Riley" <gdriley@hotmail.com>
Subject: re:censorship


No librarians (except the occaisional crank like me) are going to admit
to the covert censorship of children's books. The fact is that since
parents can get particularly volatile for what can objectively called
ridiculous reasons, Jlibrarians (often already rather timid souls to
begin with) don't find it to be worth risking their jobs to uphold
professional ideals.

I suggest that you use the Net to look at catalogs, and do original
research as to the actual holdings of materials such as "It's Perfectly
Normal," "Daddy's Roomate" etc. I would even go to the point of calling
randomly selected libraries to check if books listed in the catalog as
available are actually on the shelves.

Gordon Riley, Media Center Coordinator
Goldsboro High School, Goldsboro, North Carolina
Former Children's Outreach Librarian
Former Head of Children's Services
The opinions expressed are my own!

"It's all about sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it made."
Former NFL Head Coach Monte Clark


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:10:46 1998
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Subject: wheelchairs




Speaking of strollers, does any library have those little electric
wheelchairs like the supermarkets and discount stores have?

Our renovated library is -long-. The fiction and large print are,
fortunately, near the door, but if you want non-fiction, you'd better be up
for a long walk.

Bonita

--
Bonita Kale
bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:10:10 1998
From: "The Erdman's" <erdman@epix.net>
Subject: Library behavior in the Children's Department


Dear PUBYAC subscribers,
My children's department staff is frustrated and discouraged with the
behavior of the children and their parents who visit the library. We
have been in a new facility for 14 months and the newness of the library
has worn off but the behavior seems much worse than at our old library.
The children's library is located on the lower level of our building
(same as before). I am looking for suggestions on dealing with children
and parents on basic library etiquette: talking quietly, walking not
running, not playing with the elevator or OPAC's, not leaving the play
area (consisting of large stuffed animals, puppets, and a dollhouse) in
total disarray for the staff to pick up. We have a posted behavior
policy which is not read by anyone, regardless of age. Other signs have
been posted to keep the play area neat and not leave children
unattended. Doesn't help. Staff speak to disruptive children first and
if that doesn't work they speak to the parents. Often times this does
no good either. We put our puzzles away a few months ago because we
were tired of picking them up all the time. We set out activity sheets
and coloring pages but they go untouched. We've talked about blowing a
whistle from time to time to halt the noise. We haven't done that but
might have to give it a try. Some days it is hard to hear someone on
the other end of the phone because of the noise. Some staff have
suggested absolutely no toys in the library but others feel that is too
drastic and will only cause more misbehavior for lack of something to
do. It seems that most parents see the library as a place for their
kids to play and pick out books and videos to take home but very few
actually read to their children at the library. Any words of wisdom?
Please reply to the list as I'm sure others share these same
frustrations. Thanks for your help.
--
Sue Erdman, Director Mechanicsburg Area Public Library
erdman@epix.net 16 N. Walnut St.
717-766-0171 phone Mechanicsburg, PA 17055
717-766-0152 fax

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:07:54 1998
From: johnson.1472@osu.edu (Angie Beumer Johnson)
ubject: Lester's OTHELLO


Thanks to "D" for defending Lester's OTHELLO. I have my young adult lit
students read this text, and the majority of them find it a very
stimulating read which can lead students to a profound and very positive
experience which introduces Shakespeare. Lester himself writes in his
introduction that he does not intend to replace the "original" (of course
another borrowed story), but that he urges students to read Shakespeare's
play.

Angie
johnson.1472@osu.edu




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:08:12 1998
From: Naughyde <Naughyde@aol.com>
Subject: After School Homework Programs


If you are attending PLA next week and interested in after school homework
programs, then please join us for "Don't Prespire, ASPIRE!" ASPIRE (after
school programs inspire reading enrichment) is the Houston (TX) Public
Library's program to provide tutoring, homework assistance, Internet access,
and structured events and acitivites for at risk middle school students.
The program will be held on Thursday, March 12 starting at 4:00.
Hope to see you there-

Patrick Jones

Visit the Connecting Young Adults and Libraries 2nd edition web page at:
http://members.aol.com/naughyde/connecting

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:15:13 1998
From: CV Childrens <cvjuve@oplin.lib.oh.us>
ubject: Library movies and copyright


Someone may have discussed this before, but I can't remember how to get to
the archives: We would like to show some movies to go along with our Summer
Reading Club theme. According to what I've heard/read, it is illegal for
libraries to show movies to the public (without prior permission and/or
unless they own public performance rights), yet many libraries--and other
organizations--do so. Can someone educate me about whether or not we can
legally show movies? Thanks in advance for your help!



Marsha Rakestraw, YA Specialist
Washington-Centerville Public Library
111 W. Spring Valley Road
Centerville, OH 45458
cvjuve@oplin.lib.oh.us
or
rakestma@oplin.lib.oh.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:15:27 1998
From: Loretta Potts <lpotts@henderson.lib.nc.us>
Subject: HELP!-Bk Club Names


My book club meets Fri, Mar 13, and part of our meeting will focus
on voting for the name of our book club (for gr 4-6). Names the
kids have submitted are: Book Lovers, Power Readers, Bookworms,
Fast Readers, Books from Mars, Word Gobblers, Junior Bookworms,
Black Dragon Reading, Book Invaders, Word Rats. Since the name
will be around a long time....I would like to get as many suggestions
for voting. Any suggestions? You may email me direct at:
<lpotts@henderson.lib.nc.us>

Thanks
Loretta Potts
Henderson Co. Public Library
Hendersonville NC

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 21:15:30 1998
From: Lesley Gaudreau <lesley@sealib.org>
Subject: Help! Rainstick activity


Hi all,
I used to have a copy of some excellent directions for making rainsticks
using nails or flat-headed tacks, beans/rice, and large, strong
cardboard tubes. I think I remember the basic idea, but really wanted
to double-check my memory & now I can't find the instructions. Does
anyone out there have something like this that you wouldn't mind
sharing? I've really been looking forward to doing this for Earth Day.
TIA!
lesley

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The statistics on sanity are that 1 out of every 4 Americans is
suffering
from some sort of mental illness. Think of your 3 best friends.
If they're okay, then it's you. -- Rita Mae Brown
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Lesley Gaudreau
YA/REF Seabrook Library
Seabrook, NH
lesley@sealib.org

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 22:19:19 1998
From: Phyllis Menendez <PMenendez@mail.ci.lubbock.tx.us>
Subject: author search


I need to find the name of the poet who wrote a poem entitled "The Bugs
Are Out"

**********************************
Phyllis Menendez
Children's Librarian
Groves Branch Library
Lubbock City County Library
PMenendez@mail.ci.lubbock.tx.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 23:17:26 1998
From: Susan LaFantasie <susanlaf@pcl1.pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: stumper--goat with a coat


For a patron: "Dr. goat put on his coat and went out to make a call." He
called at the walrus's who has the mumps . . .
That is all she remembers--sound familiar? May be a picture book from
some time ago. Already checked Oxfor Dictionary of Nursery Rhymes,
Internet, Children's Rhymes and Rhythms, Children's Catalog, A to Zoo. TIA.

Susan LaFantasie
PCLS WA
susanlaf@pcl1.wa.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 4 23:18:56 1998
From: "Deborah Moore" <dlmoore@csn.net>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #221




I need reccomendations for dictionaries and encyclopedias in Spanish for
grades 3-5.
TIA

Deborah Moore
IMC Coordinator and Media Specialist
Adams County School District 14
4451 E. 72nd Ave.
Commerce City, CO 80022
(303) 853-5419
fax (303) 288-5036
dlmoore@csn.org



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