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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 00:13:07 1998
From: "Sarah Cornish, Children's Librarian" <VHPL_SC@CLAMS.LIB.MA.US>
Subject: Cosby Videos


Hello! I'm writing this for a school librarian friend without PUBYAC access.
A person has asked her about a new video she believe recently came out. IT
features Bill Cosby discussing race relations in a humorous manner. Does
anyone know what the title of this could be? Where to purchase it? She cannot
find any references to this.

Thanks
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SCORNISH@CLAMS.LIB.MA.US

Sarah Cornish - Children's Librarian
Vineyard Haven Public Library VOICE:(508)696-4211
RFD Box 139A FAX: (508)696-7495
Vineyard Haven, MA 02568
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 00:19:17 1998
From: Pfeiffer <JPFEIFFER@mail.mpl.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Stumper - Ballet story


This is a book a patron checked out from our library a couple of years ago. She can't recall the title and neither can we.

It is the story of a doll ballet dancer who falls in love with a Harlequin doll. A mouse gets in and chews the Harlequin doll's clothes so that he is lifeless. The doll dances in grief and to near exhaustion. In doing this the doll gives up her heart to the Harlequin so that he lives.

That's the gist of it. The patron remembers it being a beautifully illustrated book and it was part of our children's collection. Any leads would be appreciated.

Thanks,
Julie Pfeiffer
Children's Librarian
Middletown Public Library
Middletown, OH
jpfeiffer@mail.mpl.lib.oh.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 00:27:10 1998
From: Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
Subject: Young Adult Librarian I Position Opening


Please announce the following open position at the Mesa Public Library,
Mesa AZ:

Librarian 1 (Young Adult)
Mesa Public Library-Main Branch
64 East First Street
Mesa, AZ 85201
Salary: $32,058-43,290
Open: March 2, 1998
Closes: March 20, 1998
For information and application please contact:
City of Mesa, Personnel Division
20 East Main Street, Suite 205
P.O. Box 1466
Mesa, AZ 85211-1466
Phone: 602-644-2365
Job Hotline: 602-644-2759 OR toll free 1-800-662-5053
Internet address: http//www.ci.mesa.az.us

--Diane Tuccillo, Senior Librarian/YA Coordinator
Mesa Public Library



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 01:01:34 1998
From: Lesley Gaudreau <lesley@sealib.org>
Subject: Good books Ancient Egypt and Ancient Greece


Hi again,
I need some recommendations for some good, recent books about Ancient
Egypt & Ancient Greece on the 6th grade level. The Ancient Egypt books
will be used for a project of making an "ABC" book (I know...) and I
suspect that a similar project will be happening with Ancient Greece.
So I could use one that does little more than list things in these
places with brief explanations & pictures, but I could also use some new
sources that cover these 2 places in more depth.
TIA!
lesley

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The statistics on sanity are that 1 out of every 4 Americans is
suffering
from some sort of mental illness. Think of your 3 best friends.
If they're okay, then it's you. -- Rita Mae Brown
@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@
Lesley Gaudreau
YA/REF Seabrook Library
Seabrook, NH
lesley@sealib.org

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 01:11:17 1998
From: "Erin V. Helmrich" <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: A "berry" book


I'm looking for some help locating a book for a patron (she's about 17).
She remembers a book from when she was in grade school about berries.
Here's her recollection: "A little boy goes to a place like a 'berry
land.' A bear takes him there and to all different places. Each place is
a different berry: strawberries, blueberries, blackberries etc. There
were strawberry horses, a blackberry train and bunnies skating on jam."

Does this ring any bells with anyone? I've looked all over and had no
success. We have 50 plus libraries in our system and using all combos of
"berries" in keywords found nothing.

If you have any clues please e-mail me directly at
helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us.

Thanks so much


Erin V. Helmrich
Youth Services/Young Adult Librarian

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Royal Oak Public Library
222 E. 11 Mile Rd.
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
Phone: (248) 541-1470
e-mail: helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us
Fax: (248) 545-6220


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 01:19:06 1998
From: "James E. Cook" <YA_JAMES@DAYTON.LIB.OH.US>
ubject: French Revolution


Hello!

I have a teacher who wants some novels about the French Revolution for
ninth graders. I've checke several sources and all I'm finding are
adult books and classics:

Holt, Victoria - The Devil on Horseback

Du Maurier, Daphne - The Glass-Blowers

Dickens, Charles - Tale of Two Cities

Sabatini, Rafael - Scaramouche, the King Maker

Orczy, Baroness - The Scarlet Pimpernel

Two titles that might be YA (but which my library doesn't own) are:

Hess, Donna Lynn - In Search of Honor (1991)

Burton, Hester - The Rebel (1972)

Does anyone have any other suggestions? Thanks for your help.

James.

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James E. Cook, Young Adult Specialist YA_JAMES@dayton.lib.oh.us
Dayton & Montgomery County Public Library (937) 227-9500, x207
Home Page: http://www.dayton.lib.oh.us/~ya_james/index.html
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The opinions expressed herein are my own and do not necessarily
represent those of the Dayton and Montgomery County Public Library.

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:09:05 1998
From: Terry Herblin <therblin@fones.cals.lib.ar.us>
Subject: cataloging Disney books




I am currently Assistant Head of Youth Services at Central Arkansas
Library System in Little Rock. We are having a lengthy debate over where
to place the Disney books that are text heavy but the text is
written right over the - straight from the movie - animated picture. It
has come down to a public services vs. tech services viewpoint so my
supervisor asked me to get some feedback from pubyac. Do you have these
books in the picture book section and if so, are they under Disney or the
adaptor's names? Do you put Cinderella and Beauty and the Beast in the
398's with their fairytale counterparts? I'd appreciate hearing the
decisions others have made and possibly the reasons/arguments behind them.
Thanks in advance.

Terry Herblin
Assistant Head of Youth Services
Central Arkansas Library System
Little Rock, AR
therblin@cals.lib.ar.us




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:09:05 1998
From: chantele@juno.com (Chantele R Perkinson)
Subject: Re: Library movies and copyright



>From what I understand, you are supposed to have the public performance
rights secured for any film you show to an audience. Unfortunately, I don't
know what the procedure is to get those, and I'm sure there are libraries
that do show films without that. However, there is a company that rents
both videos and 16 mm films with the public performance rights already
secured. It's called SWANK, and they rent popular feature films,
children's/family films, and a couple of old 3-D horror films. They also
can provide you with advertising posters and clip art to publicize many of
the films, as well as glasses for the 3-D movies. The rentals range from
about $80 to $130 per showing, so admittedly it's not cheap. But it is one
way to get over the public performance rights hurdle.
For a free catalog contact SWANK Motion Pictures at (800) 876-3344 in the
Northeastern states, or (800) 876-5577 in the South, Midwest, and West.
They also have a web site at http://www.swank.com
We showed two of the 3-D movies as Young Adult programs last year, and they
were a rousing success--some branches had 60 people show up.
--
Tim
R. Timothy Carrier, Young Adult Services Coordinator
Jefferson-Madison Regional Library
201 E. Market St., Charlottesville, VA 22902-5287
(804) 979-7151 ext. 201 (voice) (804) 979-9728 (fax)
tcarrier@avenue.org OR tcarrier@leo.vsla.edu


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:09:02 1998
From: "Carole Fiore"<cfiore@mail.dos.state.fl.us>
Subject: Re: Library movies and copyright



Most 16 mm movies that libraries and schools purchased in
the past came with public performance rights. Today, videos
come 2 ways -- with public performance rights (it usually
costs more since you are buying the license for this) and
home use only (you cannot show them in library programming
or even in a classroom setting). Most of the videos that
you rent from Blockbuster or other video rental stores are
home use only and should not be used in library programs.
Be certain that when you purchase videos, you include a
statement on the P.O. that you are also purchasing the
public performance rights.

Even with public performance rights, you cannot broadcast
them on closed circuit or cable TV.

For more information about working within the copyright law,
see my new book, _Running Summer Library Reading Program: A
How-To-Do-It Manual_, published by Neal-Schuman. It will be
out (finally!) by the end of this month!

*********************************************************
Carole D. Fiore
Library Program Specialist/Youth Services Consultant
State Library of Florida
R. A. Gray Building
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0250
PHONE: 850/487-2651 FAX: 850/488-2746 TDD: 850/922-4085
E-mail: CFIORE@mail.dos.state.fl.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:09:05 1998
From: pbecks@mail.ms.falmouth.k12.me.us (Peggy Becksvoort)
ubject: Re: Library behavior in the Children's Department


Sue,
Sadly some young parents do not have a strong distinction between library
public space and Micky D's public space. Perhaps you need to go back to
your architect to see why the noise is so great. Could you try, in your
story hour time, introducing good behavior by using puppets? Could you
rearrange your floor plan to discourage noisy groups?
Good luck,
Peg


Peg Becksvoort
Falmouth Middle School Library
52 Woodville Rd.
Falmouth, ME 04105



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:09:02 1998
From: "Schwartz, Ginger J." <GJS8126a@co.prince-william.va.us>
Subject: Costumed Characters


We would like to get a costumed character this summer and have a
"Breakfast with... " When I used to work at Waldenbooks we had them all
the time and one library system I worked for had The Stinky Cheese Man
(we read fractured fairy tales and had a photo op). Does anyone know
which costume rental houses to contact? I have also seen Angelina
Ballerina, Spot and Winnie the Pooh.

Thanks in advance,

Ginger J. Schwartz
Children's Librarian
Potomac Community Library
2201 Opitz Blvd.
Woodbridge, VA 22191
(703) 494 - 8126
gjs8126a@co.prince-william.va.us



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:09:06 1998
From: "Carole Fiore"<cfiore@mail.dos.state.fl.us>
Subject: Re: Library movies and copyright



Most 16 mm movies that libraries and schools purchased in
the past came with public performance rights. Today, videos
come 2 ways -- with public performance rights (it usually
costs more since you are buying the license for this) and
home use only (you cannot show them in library programming
or even in a classroom setting). Most of the videos that
you rent from Blockbuster or other video rental stores are
home use only and should not be used in library programs.
Be certain that when you purchase videos, you include a
statement on the P.O. that you are also purchasing the
public performance rights.

Even with public performance rights, you cannot broadcast
them on closed circuit or cable TV.

For more information about working within the copyright law,
see my new book, _Running Summer Library Reading Program: A
How-To-Do-It Manual_, published by Neal-Schuman. It will be
out (finally!) by the end of this month!

*********************************************************
Carole D. Fiore
Library Program Specialist/Youth Services Consultant
State Library of Florida
R. A. Gray Building
Tallahassee, FL 32399-0250
PHONE: 850/487-2651 FAX: 850/488-2746 TDD: 850/922-4085
E-mail: CFIORE@mail.dos.state.fl.us
*********************************************************




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:11:44 1998
From: Betsy Bybell <bbybell@norby.latah.lib.id.us>
ubject: Volunteer Appreciation


Pubyaccers,

With National Volunteer Week coming up in April and someone on Storytell
asking for suggestions on stories to tell to and for volunteers, the
following came to me in the middle of the night. Remember the ditty/song
about Joe working in the button factory. That's describes our volunteers
perfectly.

The Saga of Lil, the library volunteer

Hello, my name is Lil and I work in a public library.
I have a boss, name of Joan.
One day my boss comes up to me and says
Hey Lil, are you busy?
I said No.
Then type these memos with your right hand. (start pecking at invisible
keys with right hand and continue doing it)

Hello, my name is Lil and I work in a public library.
I have a boss, name of Joan.
One day my boss comes up to me and says
Hey Lil, are you busy?
I said No.
Then shelve these books with your left hand. (pick up invisible book in
left hand and put on shelf, while still pecking at keys with right)

Hello, my name is Lil and I work in a public library.
I have a boss, name of Joan.
One day my boss comes up to me and says
Hey Lil, are you busy?
I said No.
Then stamp these cards with your right foot. (you got it, add stamping with
your right foot while doing all the other motions)

Hello, my name is Lil and I work in a public library.
I have a boss, name of Joan.
One day my boss comes up to me and says
Hey Lil, are you busy?
I said No.
Then fold these fliers with your left foot. (slide foot across floor, keep
the others going)

Hello, my name is Lil and I work in a public library.
I have a boss, name of Joan.
One day my boss comes up to me and says
Hey Lil, are you busy?
I said No.
Then glue these pockets with your mouth. (brush in mouth, all 4 limbs
moving like crazy)

Hello, my name is Lil and I work in a public library.
I have a boss, name of Joan.
One day my boss comes up to me and says
Hey Lil, are you busy?
I said YES!!!!!!!!

Because that's how we love our volunteers. We love them and work them and
couldn't manage our libraries WITHOUT THEM!

Any and all are welcome to use if you think your volunteers would get a
laugh out of this,

Betsy Bybell
Branch Coordinator
Latah County Library District

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:12:15 1998
From: RPHUD <RPHUD@aol.com>
Subject: Reader's Advisory and YA Programming


Hoped to get some ideas from all of you regarding successful ways you've
handled reader's advisory. What resources have proved especially helpful in
this area? I find this area to be very challenging especially when we strive
to serve such a diverse group - in terms of ages, interests and reading
abilities. And, as was pointed out in the "when do you read?" forum - it's
impossible to keep up to date on all the materials that are being published
for children and YAs.

My second question focuses on YA programming. I'm working with a Youth
Advisory Committee and was hoping for some good ideas to pursue with our kids.
What programs have proved really successful, and what programs bombed when you
thought they'd be successful? Any insights into the "why" these were
successful or not, or what you'd change or did change would also help.

I'll compile a list and post back to PUBYAC so we can all benefit from these
experiences. Thanks alot for your help!!! :-)
You can post back to PUBYAC or send directly to me at rphud@aol.com

Lorri Huddy
Graduate Student @ SCILS Rutgers University
Part-time Children's & Reference Intern Librarian, South Brunswick NJ

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:12:21 1998
From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com>
Subject: Re: censorship


Gordon Riley wrote:

> The fact is that since parents can get particularly volatile for what can objectively called ridiculous reasons, Jlibrarians (often already rather timid souls to begin with) don't find it to be worth risking their jobs to uphold professional ideals.

Gordon, I don't know what librarians you are hanging out with, but I
would be ashamed to admit a professional affiliaton with anyone who felt
this way. This is why I became a librarian (well, one of the main
reasons), and I don't believe in placating parents at the risk of the
destruction of the collection, or the rights of other patrons to free
information.
This is becoming a big issue with libraries with the Internet and
graphic access to the web. We are faced with this every day, and I feel
strongly about the "professional ideals" that you seem so blase about.
I hope I am not the only one left!

Lorie

--
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Lorie J. O'Donnell
odonnell@borg.com
http://www.borg.com/~odonnell/index.html

"I hope we never lose sight of one thing.
That this was all started by a mouse" Walt Disney



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:13:16 1998
From: JUDY SHERIFF <JSHERIFF@duluth.lib.mn.us>
Subject: Library behavior in the Children's Department -Reply


I sympathize with your level of frustration. Sure takes the edge off
enjoying a new building, doesn't it.

We, too, have a play area - and have had one since we moved into this
building in 1980. Over time we've made adaptations that have made the
area more manageable. We've gotten rid of wooden blocks and replaced
them with large cardboard ones. We limit the number of puzzles we put
out at any one time. We use lots of puppets and stuffed animals. We
have a phone booth - which is probably the hottest thing in the place.
We replaced a larger wooden slide with a small Little Tikes plastic one -
too small for big kids! We also have a wooden stove, refrig, etc. We got
rid of wooden trucks, trains and airplanes, and now have only two
plastic trucks. We think that what we have now is proportionate to the
square footage available.

Actually, as I reread your posting, it seems that we have even more toys
than you do. So I'm wondering what the other differences are. Might
your play area be too close to the service desk? Is there anything you
can do to deaden sound more? I don't know if any of this helps, but just
in case I'll keep rambling on . . .

We have a policy that limits the play area to kids 5 and under. Do we kick
out older kids? No, but we can if they're causing problems. Frequently
we tell them that the area is really meant for little kids and that big kids like
them can be scary. (They like being "big kids!") We steer the older kids
to another section with tables for board games, etc. We also have Board
approved policies for disruptive patrons and unattended children that we
fall back on when necessary.

Does it get messy? You bet. I guess we've all developed a higher
tolerance for clutter. Our shelvers are instructed to clean up when they
come in the afternoon, and that helps. The occasional wonderful parent
or day care group encourages their own kids to pick up! We practically
applaud!

We had a library wide committee deal a couple years ago with some
staff training on customer service to kids - what do they understand and
when do they understand it, etc. One of the outgrowths of that was that
it became clear that library staff around the building didn't know what the
rules were. They didn't know when (or if) to intervene with running kids,
etc. We developed a guideline statement that we put out in poster and
bulletin board form. I'll snail mail you a copy. I really don't know how
much it's helped, but it did clarify things for the staff. It also gave parents
and group leaders talking points with their kids. And it's something we
can fall back on.

Is it possible that you're just having a lot more people in your new library
than you had in the old? That can be a huge adjustment for the staff.
My personal suggestion is that if you have to resort to the whistle
technique rather than individual hands on shoulders (I like calling them
gentlemen and ladies at the same time, like "Ladies, I really need for you
to use indoor voices in the library"), I'd try a bell. A whistle *really*
seems like a gym to me - and that's what you don't want!

Anyway, good luck. Hope a bit of this was of some help!



Judy Sheriff, Youth Services Manager
Duluth Public Library
520 West Superior Street
Duluth, MN 55802
218/723-3817, fax 218/723-3822
jsheriff@duluth.lib.mn.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:13:29 1998
From: Marla Ehlers <mehlers@grapids.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Publisher trends to "younger" versions


So when we're pushing the envelope in so many areas, why are we limiting
our thinking in regards to board books? They aren't necessarily just
for the birth to 9 months group. And they needn't be only one word per
picture per page. Babies, as much as any other child, need to hear
stories, full sentences, the cadence of rhyme to develop their language
skills. Do they understand all that they hear? Very little at first, I
imagine, though I've watched a 9-month-old crawl to the bookshelf and
pull out her copy of the book we were reciting--we're establishing
important building blocks for full language acquisition.

And just as not all picture books are for the pre-reading group or only
pre-readers (_The House that Crack Built_, _Just One Flick of a Finger_,
_Pink and Say_, to name a few), board books can reach beyond their
initial audience. Yes, _Chicka Chicka ABC_ is not the full _Chicka,
Chicka, Boom, Boom_, but it's a wonderful book in its own right. Then,
of course, there's the convenience of board book format--for all ages.
Easy to clean, hard to tear, great for traveling, wonderful for small
hands. My storytime kids argue over who gets to check out the (very
small) board book version of Ehlert's _Thump, Thump, Rat-a-Tat-Tat_
after I've read a big book version of it. And my Head Start caregivers
wouldn't let their visiting classes look at *any* books (fear of being
held accountable for damage) until I started bringing out all our board
books. For these, among other reasons, I rejoice each time a publisher
issues a favorite/classic picture book on sturdier stock.

Let me conclude by saying this is not a blanket approval of all
reformatting--for example, I personally don't really like the Narnia
picture books, not because "Lewis would have written picture books if he
wanted to write picture books" but because I find the illustrations
somewhat insipid and the text a poor shadow of the original. But . . .
we still have them and many other such books to meet patron demand (as a
previous poster metioned) . . .

Views are my own . . .

Marla
--
Marla J. Ehlers "O frabjous day! Callooh! Callay!"
mehlers@grapids.lib.mi.us - Jabberwocky
Grand Rapids Public Library
Creston Branch, 1431 Plainfield NE, Grand Rapids, MI 49505
Tel: 616/361-7570 Fax: 616/361-0630

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:14:16 1998
From: Maya_SPECTOR@city.palo-alto.ca.us (Maya SPECTOR)
Subject: Re: Animorphs


I am hoping to create a booklist for our patrons titled
IF YOU LIKE ANIMORPHS YOU MIGHT LIKE.....
Unfortunely, I can't thinkof a single thing to put on the list.

Any ideas?

Ruth Shafer
Vancouver Community Library
Vancouver, WA
shafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:15:03 1998
From: Susan Price-Stephens <susan.price-stephens@treasure.lpl.london.on.ca>
Subject: Library movies and copyright -Reply


My understanding is you have to buy a video with the rights attached
or purchase an annual blanket license that covers specified
producers. I know of no cases having gone to court however it is
against the law to show "Home us only" videos to a group in a public
place.

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:15:15 1998
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: abridged classics


Isn't that what we're here for -- to help
PU>people read what THEY want to read?


Susan Erhardt
PU>Youth Services
PU>Kent District Library
PU>Grand Rapids, Michigan, U.S.A.
PU>pfdse@lakeland.lib.mi.us

One hopes that there is a little bit more to selection criteria than
this; if not, a great many of us wasted a great many hours in library
school. I like to think that when I spend tax dollars it behooves me to
spend them on things that have a passing resemblance to quality as well
as having popularity potential. Is it elitist to think that we are
capable of identifying quality? Possibly. Aren't I ashamed of being an
elitist? Nah.

Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 16:15:20 1998
From: Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
Subject: Re: "watered down" retellings of classic tales - Beowulf stumper


When my son was in the fourth grade, I found a translation of Beowulf
that was aimed at young teens and packaged to look like a new fantasy
story rather than a "classic". He loved it. (It's a great monster story
-- that's one reason it's been read and told for at least 1000 years.)
He had found learning to read difficult, and this was the first book he
actually read for pleasure.

The only problem arose when he tried to tell his teacher that he was
reading Beowulf. She practically called him a liar, and only backed down
when he described the plot in great detail. I don't think she was ever
convinced that he read it himself rather than having it read aloud to
him.

If anyone remembers this version of Beowulf and can tell me the
translator's name, I would be very grateful. I don't suppose it is still
in print, but he mentioned the other day that he'd like to read it again
and perhaps I can ILL it or buy a used copy. (He's now 17 and attending
a local community college.)

Thanks,
Jean Hewlett
North Bay Cooperative Library System, Santa Rosa CA
hewlett@usfca.edu

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 17:27:46 1998
From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
Subject: Re: Library movies and copyright



Generally speaking, 16 mm films come with public performance rights,
whether you buy them or rent them--by their nature, they are made for
showing to an audience. Video cassettes, however, are a different
story. Unless you have bought the public performance rights along
with the video (lots of educational videos that are specifically
marketed to libraries and school media centers are sold this way,
and that's one of the reasons they tend to cost more), you do not
have the right to show it to an audience. You may, of course, lend
it out to people for private home viewing. So if you're hoping to
show the latest Disney video, or even a Reading Rainbow video, you
probably will be in violation of copyright law. If you're in doubt,
watch the first bit of the video--it should indicate whether or not
you have the public performance rights (you know, where the FBI
threat appears on your rental videos).

Do lots of libraries, schools, organizations violate copyright law by
showing videos without public performance rights? You betcha. But I
don't think it's a good idea--I believe the library has a
responsibility to protect intellectual property as well as
intellectual freedom.. Leaving the ethics of the situation aside,
however, you can stand to lose big time in a lawsuit if you're
discovered.

Good luck!

Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Public Library
Biddeford, ME 04005
(207)284-4181
vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 18:29:27 1998
From: "Children's librarians" <children@mtlib.org>
ubject: noisy children


I think all librarians have had to deal with this in one way or another. We
had a staff meeting a few years ago, and brainstormed ideas. Here's a few
we came up with:

1. We, too, go to the child first. If she is running down the aisles, I
kneel down, and quietly say to the child: "I can't let you run because we
don't want children to get hurt in our library. You may look at books, play
with puzzles, or play on the computer. Which would you like to do?"
Sometimes I actually guide the child over to the parent, or the play area.

2. If the behavior continues, I go to the child and say, "You need to be
with your mother (father, babysitter, etc.) Let's go find her."

3. Every so often I mention behavior to the entire storytime, with parents
there. I try to be positive. "We want to keep children safe here. Please
make sure you supervise your child while they are at the Library." I also
point out to the loud children how many people are busy working here, and
we need to make sure that everyone can do what they need to do.

4. I try to get the entire staff to help, so the children's librarians
aren't always perceived as the disciplinarians. I think it's important to
stop misbehavior soon, so rather than allowing a child to slide down the
stair banisters several times before stopping them, I have asked all staff
to approach the child and again, tell them what they CAN do.

I'm anxious to see other ideas. My overall goal is to make sure that the
Library is child-friendly and safe, and children will want to return. It's
always a judgement call as to when to step in, but we usually do if
behavior is disturbing other patrons. Good luck!

Cindy Christin
Children's Librarian
Bozeman Public Library
Bozeman, MT 59715

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 19:28:18 1998
From: Jennifer Bueche <jbueche@nslsilus.org>
ubject: Idea for teen program



A bit ago, Susan LaFantasie asked for ideas for teen programs. She asked
me to post this idea to the list. We both are interested in other
suggestions.

Jennifer Bueche jbueche@nslsilus.org
Librarian, Children's and Youth Services Dept.
Gail Borden Public Library
200 N. Grove Ave. Phone: (847) 742-2411
Elgin, IL 60120 Fax: (847) 742-0485

*****forwarded message************************************************

Susan:

I work in a public library serving approx. 100,000 people in a city 30
miles west of Chicago.

I have hosted three open mike poetry nights for teens in 7th grade and up.
These Teen Cafe nights were successful. The last one, Jan. 28, brought in 45
people (of which 5 were adults--including one HS English teacher who sat with
10 of his students). About 2/3 were HS age, 1/3 middle school.

Basically, we arrange the meeting room to look as much like a cafe as
possible--dimmed lights, battery lanterns on tables, black table cloths
(plastic--from roll), and mike on one-tier stage.

Kids who want to read on stage put their name in a "hat"--that is how I pull
readers. (That eliminates the "who goes first" problem) kids want to read.
Not all read their own work--some read friends' poetry or from books (I had a
poetry book display). I am always amazed at how much teens WANT to read their
poetry aloud--regardless of age. (Oh, the older teens were attentive of
younger ones--no problems with large age span.)

About half way through we have an intermission with a poem contest. Kids
yell out nouns. I "hear" five of them. The contest consists of writing a
poem (often they work in pairs or by table) using those 5 words and their
rhyming counterparts. Anyone who reads their entry on stage after
intermission gets a pack of gum ("Reader Gum"). I have 3 audience members
act as judges--that's how we get a winner. Winner/s get something silly
like Pez containers or Mentos. Nothing big.

This is pretty low-key on staff prep. Most time went into distributing
flyers to schools.

We served pop, coffee, hot chocolate and food (sweet things went faster
than the salty/chip ones).

If you need any other info, please contact me. I developed this from some
Poetry Slams I have attended in the Chicago area. Mark Smith, the guru of
poetry slams, works in Chicago--he was the host at the slams I attended.
Because of the large number of requests from teens, we are going to offer
Teen Cafe on a regular basis beginning in the fall.

See also the Feb. 1998 SLJ (page 49) for another coffeehouse/poetry
program for teens.





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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 19:52:36 1998
From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
Subject: Re: Lewis picture books, etc.


Hello all.

I gotta wade in, now that the discussion has moved from picture book
adaptations (boo!) to include the board-bookization of picture books.
Yes, I know that board-book editions are frequently cheaper than the
real thing. Yes, I know that parents sometimes feel more comfortable
putting a board-book edition into their preschooler's hands instead
of the real thing. BUT LOOK AT WHAT THOSE KIDS ARE LOSING.
Many board-book editions cut pictures, rearrange layout, in order to
squish the original into the smaller format. Even if the pictures
and layout are preserved, they are much smaller than the way the
artist intended them to be, and consequently they are much less
effective. Do we really want to be cheating children out of the
experience of Carle's enormous "beautiful butterfly?" What about
Oxenbury's glorious wide, wide landscapes in "We're Going on a Bear
Hunt," which are shrunk down to just about nothing for the board-book
edition?

How about instituting a forgiving policy on damaged books so that
parents won't be too intimidated to check out the full-size book for
their children? Can't we swallow a few torn pages in order to put
quality literature into the hands of the children we're serving?
Invest in a large collection of paperbacks that at least share size
with the originals, even if they occasionally lose the endpapers.

Don't stop buying board books--just get appropriate board books, for
the board book audience: BABIES! Get simple board books that are
within babies' grasps, and push them at parents (once again, with a
forgiving policy on damage; I tell parents that I want to see
chewed-up board books, because then I know that they've been used).
If the babies are exposed to high-quality, age-appropriate board
books from birth, then by the time they graduate to paper picture
books, they will have been acculturated to handling books, and will
be less inclined to destroy them.

Please read "Board Books Go Boom" by Kathleen T. Horning, in the
March/April 1997 issue of Horn Book. She discusses the subject most
intelligently.

And SHAME on the publishers who are so eager to compromise the
integrity of their books in order to make a few more bucks producing
these not-fish-nor-fowl items that serve neither babies nor
preschoolers at all well.

Thanks for the forum.
Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Public Library
Biddeford, ME 04005
(207)284-4181
vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 19:57:24 1998
From: Dawn Silver <dawn@lydia.org>
ubject: Re: Library behavior in the Children's Department


Hi All,
I have been an avid reader of PUBYAC and the message from Sue Erdman went
to my heart. Here are some solutions that I think might help. These will
take time and effort on behalf of everyone.

> I am looking for suggestions on dealing with children
>and parents on basic library etiquette: talking quietly, walking not
>running, not playing with the elevator or OPAC's, not leaving the play
>area (consisting of large stuffed animals, puppets, and a dollhouse) in
>total disarray for the staff to pick up.
Basic courtesy is lacking in our day to day lives. Could you run a week
long practice of good manners for all in the library? Everyone can
participate by wearing a ribbon, this often gets people talking and then
the learning can begin. I have found that too often people never get
taught the basics so how can they possibly practice good manners! A theme
could be the medieval period with an emphasis on chivalry and manners. An
additional solution that may not be possible because of layout is set the
toys behind a desk with staff at it and explain why this has happened. If
possible sign out the toys to the parents with an explaination that this is
a part of the good manners week and that returning the toys in a proper
manner is part of the chivalry involved. A discussion about the possible
loss of the toys because of the mess often left behind can happen here.
Talk to the people who make the mess but don't threaten them. They can see
what the drain on staff picking up toys can be like - they may even see an
improvement at home!

>We have a posted behavior policy which is not read by anyone, regardless
of age.
I myself have become overwhelmed with signs and have failed to read them to
the frustration of staff at places I frequent! I would much rather be
soken too by someone than expected to search through several signs to find
what I am looking for. People contact in today's society is precious and
diminishing everywhere. Please, let us not have it at our libraries too.
Perhaps a very well done and very large medieval scroll for the chivalry
week can be placed beside the toy sign out area. If the chivalry aspect is
highlighted which puts the needs of others as important in chivalry then
loud noisy games which irritate other patrons and running which might hurt
someone does not fit with chivalry.

>It seems that most parents see the library as a place for their
>kids to play and pick out books and videos to take home but very few
>actually read to their children at the library.
How about another demonstration actually showing how to read to your child
and what rewards can be gained from doing this? Benefits like incredibly
important and rewarding time spent with your child? Really getting to know
your child as well... I have the best memories being read to by my Mom and
Grandma too - in the park, the car waiting at a medical exam, even the
grocery store check out (which thinking back now was a trick I wouldn't try
to tackle!)

All of these involve teaching by example which is time consuming but which
may have a very great return by helping stop the chaos. Specific noisy
times? Specific quiet times not just posted but telling everyone as they
enter the library with a poster board they have to look at or someone
handing our leaflets with the times and encouraging anyone not finding this
suitable to help you find a solution to the problem! Or is this what your
users want - a playground rather than a library?
How about asking them?

Hope this helps and sparks some discussion about courtesy for all of us.

Dawn Silver.



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:15:56 1998
From: Zuki Landau <hdgibson@earthlink.net>
Subject: berry books


Thank you, thank you, thank you to all who responded on my "berry" book
request! It was my first time posting to pubyac and boy does it work. I
feel like I'm the only one who hasn't ever read "Jamberry" but I will now.

Thanks again!

Erin V. Helmrich M.L.S.
Youth Services/Young Adult Librarian

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*

Royal Oak Public Library
222 E. 11 Mile Rd.
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
Phone: (248) 541-1470
e-mail: helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us
Fax: (248) 545-6220


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:16:01 1998
From: Ann Mahon <mahona@pls.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Scholarship Information



A patron recently asked for a book written for school age children about
preparing for college. She would like information on scholarships and
course work for a child who is very bright but who does not have the
encouragement from home to pursue college plans. I have searched the
usual means and have not found anything for the 9-11 year old range. Does
anyone have any ideas or great websites for kids they could recommend.
Please e-mail directly to me and I will post the results. TIA
Ann Mahon
south San Francisco Public Library

From: Ann Mahon <mahona@pls.lib.ca.us>

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:16:04 1998
From: Anne Jones <annej@sno-isle.org>
Subject: POSITION ANNOUNCEMENTS


SNO-ISLE REGIONAL LIBRARY SYSTEM is recruiting for the following
positions:

LIBRARIAN I, Children's, Mountlake Terrace Library, Mountlake Terrace,
WA (Full Salary Range:$17.07-$21.33/hr). 20 hrs/wk + Benefits. Job
#9819 Closes 3/27/98.

LIBRARIAN I, Children's, 50/50 equal split between Langley and Freeland
Libraries, Whidbey Island, WA (Full Salary Range:$2,959-$3,697/mo) 40
hrs/wk + benefits. Job #9815. Closes3/27/98.

LIBRARIAN I, Children's, Mukilteo Library, Mukilteo, WA (Full Salary
Range:$2,959-$3,697/mo) 40 hrs/wk + benefits. Job #9813. Closes
3/27/98.
The Mukilteo Library is a new 15,000 sq. ft. facility that is scheduled
to open in the summer of 1998.

All three positions will provide readers' advisory and reference
services to patrons, especially children. Plan, present and promote
the library to various audiences including children, young adults and
adults. Assist in collection development and explain the use of library
facilities.
All three positions require an MLS from an ALA accredited school, and
the ability to obtain a Washington State Librarian Certifiate upon
employment. Must have competent knowledge of library materials;
automated cataloging system; ability to speak and understand and write
English; and work cooperatively with the public and co-workers. TO
APPLY BY: For information and required application contact Sno-Isle
Regional Library System, 7312 35th Ave. NE, Marysville, WA 98271.
Phone: (360)659-8447. Applications must be received by the closing
dates.

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:19:57 1998
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: re:censorship


On Wed, 4 Mar 1998, Gordon Riley wrote:

> No librarians (except the occaisional crank like me) are going to admit
> to the covert censorship of children's books. The fact is that since
> parents can get particularly volatile for what can objectively called
> ridiculous reasons, Jlibrarians (often already rather timid souls to
> begin with) don't find it to be worth risking their jobs to uphold
> professional ideals.

Well, it's said that the coward dies a thousand deaths, the brave man dies
but one. I guess it's a matter of what you can live with. It's easier,
though, if you know that you have marketable "real world" skills, so that
you could uphold the ethical principles of your profession, *and* be
reasonably certain you won't starve.

Kirsten Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:20:14 1998
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: Water Theme YA SRP


On Tue, 3 Mar 1998, Manitowoc Public Library wrote:

> Hello! I have gotten some wonderful ideas from pubyac in the past so I
> thought I'd try everyone again:
> We are having a water theme SRP "Make Waves Read!" and I am trying to
> come up with some ideas for YA programs. Has anyone out there done
> anything in the past that worked or have any ideas?
> Thanks!

:::smiling::: An obvious choice would be "Surf the Web!" some kind of
internet-related program. Invite someone - a regular teen or younger
adult user?- to run or help run it. Include some of the really far out
stuff in amongst the how-to bits like Peter Anspach's EVIL OVERLORD page
or the decomposing twinkie) Check out Bruce Greeley's & Michael Dorling's
TEEN ZONE at www.kcls.org for some ideas.

Someone earlier posted a tie-dye how-to (I saved it, so if you want me to
forward it to you, I can) which ties in nicely with the surfer-dude theme.

HTH,

Kirsten Edwards E-mail to kirstedw@kcls.org
Young Adult Librarian Voice: 425-747-3350 (Lake Hills)
Lake Hills, Duvall and Fax: 206-296-5063 (Lake Hills)
Skykomish Libraries
KING COUNTY LIBRARY SYSTEM
15228 Lake Hills Boulevard
Bellevue, WA 98007



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:20:29 1998
From: Diane Cowles <dcowles@spl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: 3 Stumpers


A patron wants to identify 3 books read as a child, published 70's or
earlier--would you help us?
1. Plot involves white boy kidnapped as a baby by a Native Am
man. Growing up as a member of the tribe was a hardship as he was a
physical misfit and failed at a bloody ritual ordeal. He learned to
adapt but never learned English or found out his birth identity.
2. "Tree" is in the title of a book which featured 2 sisters who
scandalized the town by going shoeless at school in sympathy with a poor
girl who had no shoes.
3. A Puritan or Presbyterian preacher father is opposed to
Christmas and circuses but when his children first come into contact with
these events, he is openminded. An older sister cuts her foot chopping
down a Xmas tree for her sister and her father is touched by her actions.
Please reply to me directly. Thanks in advance for your help.
Diane Cowles/Seattle Public Library

From: Diane Cowles <dcowles@spl.lib.wa.us>

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:21:24 1998
From: "Roudman, Leonard" <lroudman@mail.contra-costa.lib.ca.us>
Subject: sheep fingerplays



Thanks to everyone for their sheep fingerplays and other suggestions for my
Sheep Toddler Time and Picture Book Time.
Leonard Roudman
San Ramon Library

Dear Leonard,

My all time favorite with that age group is Sheep out to Eat by Nancy
Shaw. They laugh everytime. Theres a series of these sheep books, but
that one is the best. We also have a flannel board for Baa Baa Black
sheep. A favorite craft is to give the kids a photo-copy of a sheep
coloring sheet, and let them glue cotton balls on it.

Have fun with it,

Erin


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Erin Gallagher | Peabody Institute Library
Head of Children's Services | Peabody, Massachusetts
gallagher@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange*


There was once a white sheep,
And this is the way
The farmer cut off
It's wool one day (pretend to sheer sheep)

The wool was spun
Into thread so fine,
And made into cloth
for this coat of mine (place hands on shoulders)
==========================================================================
Marie Noe (915) 676-6067
Librarian II Abilene Public Library
Abilene, TX
marie.noe@alcon.alc.org


I'm not at work-so i don't remember the books i used--but a great project
for
little ones is give them an outline of a sheep and let them glue on cotton
balls. Use glue sticks or put some glue in a cup and let them dab.
I'l check the names of the books i used and let you know. One is called
Argyle.


Leonard,
Here are two I often use. The source is _Rhymes for Fingers and
Flannelboards_ by Louise Binder Scott and J.J. Thompson
(McGraw-Hill, 1960), pp. 104 and 106.

Little Bo-Peep has lost her sheep,
(Hold up both hands with fingers extended.)
And cannot tell where to find them.
(Hide hands behind back.)
Leave them alone and they will come home,
(Bring hands from behind back and hold them up.)
Wagging their tails behind them.
(Wiggle fingers.)

Little Boy Blue, come blow your horn;
(Hold up clenched hands in a make believe horn.)
The sheep are in the meadow,
(Hold up left hand and bend down fingers.)
The cows are in the corn.
(Hold up right hand and bend down fingers.)
Where is the little boy who looks after the sheep?
(Spread hands questioningly.)
He's under the haystack,
Fast asleep!
(Place palms together and lay head to one side on hands.)
(I often add horn-tooting and snoring noises in the appropriate places.
The kids love this!)

Have fun!

Janet Kreason, Children's Librarian
R. P. Flower Memorial Library
Watertown, NY




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:34:28 1998
From: "Alicia Ahlvers" <alicia@qni.com>
Subject: An Evening of Story Swapping








The Kansas City Public Library would like to invite all PLA attendees to
An Evening Of Story Swapping, Thursday, March 12 from 7:00 - 8:45 p.m. at
the Main Library, 311 E. 12th Street. Members of local story telling
groups will tell tales and there will be an open mike so conference
participants with a yen to spin yarns should show up ready to tell. The
library is an easy walk from the Convention Center and downtown hotels.
Cosponsored by the Public Library Association, the River and Prairie Story
Weavers and the Heartland Storytellers.

For more information please e-mail or call:

Alicia Ahlvers
ma_alicia@kcpl.lib.mo.us
816-221-3187
311 E. 12th Street
Kansas City MO 64105

or

Susan Wray
sug_susan@kcpl.lib.mo.us
816-461-7820



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Mar 5 21:34:39 1998
From: AMOUELLET <AMOUELLET@aol.com>
Subject: Re: censorship


Yes, the book "It's Perfectly Normal" is on our shelves. In fact, it was
part of a display at our library today. High school students presented
a skit about teenage pregnancy at our branch this afternoon and I put
together a display of related materials to supplement the program.

Annette Ouellet
Children's Librarian
Liberty Branch Library
Springfield, MA

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