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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:38:55 1998
From: "Midge Winkel" <mwinkel@mountlaurel.k12.nj.us>
Subject: Re: Make Lemonade
Here's a writing activity you may want to consider:
Have the students continue the saga of LaVaughn and Jolly. They can
predict what will happen to each of the girls one year, 5 years, etc.,
from where the book left off. (Basically, they can write the next
chapter.) Questions to consider: Did Vaughan raise enough money for
college?...Does she even go to college?...How has Jolly been managing
since completing her high school requirements?...Does she suceed or does
she go back to her old way of life?...What about her children?...you get
the idea, right?
I hope this helps!
LIZ my address is <mwinkel@mountlaurel.k12.nj.us>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:45:13 1998
From: Ginger Sawyer <gingers@lyon.york.lib.sc.us>
Subject: Young adult program
I might be doing a young adult book club for 12-14 year olds this summer
at my library. The club will have a coffee house theme and will meet once
a week on Monday evenings. Does anyone have any good advice or helpful
hints on young adult book clubs? Thanks a bunch.
Ginger Sawyer
York County Library
Rock Hill, SC
gingers@lyon.york.lib.sc.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:45:00 1998
From: Sarah Dentan <sdentan@scfl.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Buffy, Dawson, and misinformation
The only thing worse than being an obsessive consumer of YA TV is being
an obsessive consumer with her facts wrong. Yesterday, I said that
Dawson's Creek and Buffy the Vampire Slayer were created by the same
person. I was wrong. DC is created by the guy who wrote the movie
SCREAM. Now I could say that since Sara Michelle Gellar was in that, and
stars in Buffy, my confusion would be justified. But I'd be grasping at
straws.
I justification of this potentially frivolous use of bandwith, I'd say
this whole experience reminds us of two things:
Always verify an answer in a reliable source -and-
Never take anything you read on the net at face value.
(skulking into the woodwork)
sd
Sarah Dentan Stanislaus County (CA) Library
Young Adult Librarian 1500 I Street / Modesto, CA 95354
sdentan@scfl.lib.ca.us voice: 209/558-5207 fax: 209/529-4779
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:41:45 1998
From: Vicky Schoenrock <vschoenr@nslsilus.org>
ubject: Computers, Networked or not
We are moving into a new space with 6 computer rooms with potential for
12 computers. We had thought to use a network but now find that the CD
ROMS we want do not come in networked versions (Carmen, Living Books,
etc.) Are we stuck? Does anyone have a network with these type of CD ROMS
on them and how do you get it to work? We DO NOT want to be running back
and forth with CDs....
I feel about these computers the same way others feel about toys. we have
kids who come in who want to use a computer, any computer to play games.
So they sit at Dynix and pound away. Read a book? Are you kidding? They
don't like to read...Is there anyone out there who feels that we are not
obligated to provide this for patrons and don't have the "game" type
CD
ROMs for inhouse use? What is your rationale, just out of curiousity?
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Vicky Schoenrock, Youth Services Manager
Waukegan Public Library, 128 N. County St. Waukegan IL 60085
Phone: 847-623-2041 Fax:847-623-2092
vschoenr@nslsilus.org
***My opinions are my own, of course**
"remain calm and share your bananas." - Anne Lamott
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:45:34 1998
From: Easton Public Library <easton.public.lib@snet.net>
Subject: Charge for storytime
It's budget time. We met with the Board of Finance last night. And a
suggestion was made for the library to start charging for weekly
storytime programs. Both the Director of the library and myself were
appalled. My question to the group is this: Do any of you out there
charge for regular preschool storytime programs? I feel that as a
public library, our patrons pay taxes to the town, and are already
paying for library services through their taxes. Please let me know if
you do or do not charge for p[rograms. If you do, how much do you
charge?
Thank you,
Diane Conroy
Assistant Director/Children's Librarian
Easton Public Library
Easton, CT
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:43:28 1998
From: torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us (Torrie Hodgson Children's Librarian)
ubject: bicycle safety rodeo
Has anybody done a bicycle safety program? I remember from the
misty days of my youth going to a bicycle "rodeo" at my local parks
department. We learned the hand signals, road safety, how to register your
bike, and then we went on a bicycle rodeo course that was mostly marked out
with orange cones.
Please contact me if you have any comments, suggestions, and
especially experience. TIA!
Torrie Hodgson 8)
Torrie Hodgson, Children's Librarian, System Administrator, and everything else!
Burlington Public Library
900 East Fairhaven Ave
Burlington, WA 98233
Phone (360) 755-0760 Fax (360) 755-0717
torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:45:58 1998
From: Becky Smith <bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us>
Subject: BIB: Audiobooks for Teens
First of all, thank you to everyone who replied to my request for
good titles for books on tape for teenagers. I appreciate all the
help!
Many people who replied recommended getting as many titles
as possible from the local high schools' assigned reading and
summer reading lists. I think that's an excellent suggestion, and
we'll be following up on that. We'd already decided to purchase
a lot of classics (Dickens, Austen, Bronte, and so on), but this
idea broadens the horizons a little.
Others said that "if it's popular in book format, it'll probably
be popular on tape." With that in mind, we're going to be getting
some of the less-literary (my own term) stuff such as the R. L. Stine
"Fear Street" books on tape.
Several of those who replied recommended getting a lot of science
fiction titles for the YA tape collection. They said the "Star
Wars," "Star Trek," "X-Files" and "Elfquest"
audiobooks were
especially popular, along with tapes of the books by the really
"big" authors such as David Eddings, Terry Brooks, Terry Goodkind,
Tad Williams, Robert Jordan and Margaret Weis - and, of course,
Tolkien.
Individual titles that were recommended:
----- Go Ask Alice
Avi Beyond the Western Sea
The Man Who Was Poe
True Confessions of Charlotte Doyle
Wolf Rider
Babbitt Tuck Everlasting
Bauer Squashed
Thwonk
Bess The Mayday Rampage
Block Weetzie Bat
Brooks The Moves Make the Man
Cooney Driver's Ed
Face on the Milk Carton
Flight #116 is Down
Cooper The Boggart
Cormier Chocolate War
I am the Cheese
Crutcher Athletic Shorts
Ironman
Curtis Watsons Go to Birmingham 1963
Cushman Catherine Called Birdy
Ballad of Lucy Whipple
Midwife's Apprentice
Dickinson Eva
Farmer The Ear, the Eye, and the Arm
Hinton Outsiders
Hoover The Dawn Palace
Jacques Redwall
Mossflower
LeGuin Wizard of Earthsea
Lowry Giver
Mazer Last Mission
Orwell 1984
Paterson Lyddie
Paulsen Brian's Winter
The Crossing
Hatchet
Haymeadow
The River
The Winter Room
Pfeffer The Year Without Michael
Pullman Golden Compass
Staples Shabanu
Haveli
Taylor, T The Cay
The Hostage
The Weirdo
Taylor, M Roll of Thunder, Hear My Cry (and sequels)
Thomas Rats Saw God
Voigt Homecoming
Dicey's Song
Almost all of these are from Recorded Books - the consensus appears
to be that they're the single best source for audiobooks for teens.
Thanks again to everyone for your help - this list is a wonderful
resource!
--
Becky Smith
Children's/YA Librarian
Logan (UT) Library
bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us
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"We learn from history that we do not learn anything from history."
-Mark Twain-
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:43:39 1998
From: druthgo@sonic.net (Dr. Ruth I. Gordon)
ubject: Various and a good deal of sundry
PUBBERS:
Various: I hope you all saw the interesting biog. of PUBYAC's mother and
father Shannon VanH. in this month's American Libraries. It's worth the
price of admission.
Sundry: The question about who wrote Dr. Seuss isn't a joke anymore. The
widow has allowed a good many pieces of "stuff" to appear as though
written
by Ted the G. And...soon to be on your book shelves, a book in the
Seussian style by Prelutsky and Lane Smith. The latter, I trust, will be
very fine because the good Dr.'s editor at Random edited it, too.
--Big Grandma
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"You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass
the guilty." Jessica Mitford (1917-1996)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:42:58 1998
From: Becky Smith <bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us>
Subject: Banning chat lines?
Our library is, like many others, having problems with our online
computers being monopolized by teenagers using chat lines. We
are considering banning chat line use, but would like to hear from
other libraries who have done so, especially those who have library
policies to this effect. Could you send me the relevant portions
of your policy, and any success/horror stories about implementation?
I'd really appreciate it!
--
Becky Smith
Children's/YA Librarian
Logan (UT) Library
bsmith@inter.state.lib.ut.us
http://www.logan.lib.ut.us
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"We learn from history that we do not learn anything from history."
-Mark Twain-
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:44:37 1998
From: Cynthia Sturgis <cynthias@lincc.lib.or.us>
Subject: Contingency plans for cancelled storytime
I would like to know what other libraries do when a preschool storytime is
canceled due to the librarian's illness, and no substitute is available.
Does anyone have a successful contingency plan -- an activity for parents
to share with their child or ? Please reply to my email at
cynthias@lincc.lib.or.us
Thanks.
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Cynthia Sturgis Tel. (503) 786-7584
Senior Librarian FAX (503) 659-9497
Ledding Library E-Mail cynthias@lincc.lib.or.us
10660 SE 21 Avenue
Milwaukie, OR 97222
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:39:21 1998
From: MShubee <MShubee@aol.com>
Subject: Card Catalog
Dear Pubyacer's,
Finally!!! I have gotten the card catalog on 2 stand alone computers in
my library. My question is this. Since I only have 30 min. for classes and
have 20+ students per class, are there any ideas as to how I can teach most of
the students efficiently without dragging it out for several weeks? The
students seem very excited that we have the computer set up catalog and I'm
affraid that if I take too long, their enthusiasm will fade away. Any
suggestions would be greatly appreciated not only by me but also, my students.
TIA!!
Jane
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:39:37 1998
From: "Midge Winkel" <mwinkel@mountlaurel.k12.nj.us>
Subject: Re: Book Club Names
Here's a suggestion for a book club name: BOOK KNOOK
We are thinking of forming a Book Club with our fourth graders. Could
you please give us some guidelines as to how you have organized your
club? For instance, how many children are in your club?...What books
are you thinking of having the children read?...How long will your club
run?...and any other information you could possibly share.
Thanks so much!!!
LIZ I can be reached at this address <mwinkel@mountlaurel.k12.nj.us>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:38:59 1998
From: "Gordon Riley" <gdriley@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: censorship comments
As someone who spent 2 years on systemwide book selection committees,
fighting for inclusion of potentially disturbing materials, I know what
I am talking about regarding subtle censorship. Also having worked in
another system where the "Daddy's Roomate" issue was in the local
papers for months and the staff is still shellshocked, I speak from
first hand experience. Having argued at a statewide conference for
inclusion of materials, and had librarians state clearly that they would
be afraid for their jobs if they included these materials; I am not
spouting theory or idealism. Having attended 3 national conferences and
listened to the disparity between what is said in meetings and what is
said in private, I feel qualified to make generalizations, which I
realize are not universal and do not apply to every single person in the
field.
Most youth librarians are deathly afraid of contraversy. Having been
treated as second class citizens by adult services librarians, many
youth librarians are reluctant to voice their opinions about
professional issues.
Nobody brags about throwing brand new books right in the trash, or
hiding them in offices - but it is frequently done by youth librarians
who do not make their own purchases. Others simply do not buy them.
Sure there are a few brave souls who take on the powers that be, often
only until they get fired once or twice.
Gordon Riley, Media Center Coordinator
Goldsboro High School, Goldsboro, North Carolina
The opinions expressed are my own!
"It's all about sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it
made."
Former NFL Head Coach Monte Clark
______________________________________________________
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:45:30 1998
From: "Gordon Riley" <gdriley@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: censorship discussion/timid souls
If I had said "Most people watched some of the Olympics," would
everyone
on this list that didn't watch any of the Olympics feel the need to post
and say so?
Gordon Riley, Media Center Coordinator
Goldsboro High School, Goldsboro, North Carolina
The opinions expressed are my own!
"It's all about sincerity. Once you can fake that, you've got it
made."
Former NFL Head Coach Monte Clark
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:41:38 1998
From: Corey Bennett <bennetc@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Sailing the Seven Seas
Hi All,
Our state's summer reading theme is "Exploration Explosion!" and so I
am doing a program for school-aged children on sailing the seas. I have
quite a few books and a couple of ideas for feltboard stories, but I am
always on the lookout for more stuff! I thought I'd try your collective
wisdom. I am trying to avoid doing stuff on pirates, although I have
pulled Jane Yolen's Ballad of the Pirate Queens. I am also trying to avoid
doing fishes and sea creatures, and stick more with sailing ships, boats,
etc. Any ideas you have would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks in advance,
Corey
Corey Bennett |
New Tampa Regional Library | I get enough exercise
Tampa, FL | just pushing my luck.
E-Mail: bennetc@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us |
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:38:55 1998
From: Edgewater Park - Jacques School <epjacq@nothinbut.net>
Subject: Censorship?
Greetings:
I don't know if anyone has run into my problem but I need some input on
how to handle this situation:
Our school has only one computer with a modem and no one has individual
mailboxes. So all e-mail comes to the school on one computer and the
mail is readily available to be read by anyone. I am the only one using
a listserv: pubyac.
I recently had a message come to me via pubyac regarding support groups
for gays and lesbians. An administrator saw the message and deleted it
as an "inappropriate" topic for a K-4 school. He told me about it
after
he had trashed it.
Has anyone encountered such a situation? We have no Responsible Use
Policy.
Thank you.
Cathy Dugan
Graduate Student
Rowan University and
4th grade teacher
Magowan School
epjacq@nothinbut.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:39:50 1998
From: Chris Harbison <SML_CHRIS@chstls.org>
Subject: age appropriate programming
I have had some difficulty with this in my library and want to
hear from any of you who may have had the same problem and how
you have dealt with it.
Every time I plan a program for specific ages, I tend to get
younger children wanting to participate. Some of this is a
parent problem, they insist their child is special or more
mature than the average child, etc. If I plan a program
for k-2nd grade, I get preschoolers. If I plan a program for
preschoolers, I get toddlers. I have a variety of types of
programs and I don't generally have a problem with the regular
storytimes. It's the special programs that give me problems.
Even when I require registration, I still have those people who
just show up.
How I have approached this in the past has varied. Sometimes,
I have just allowed them all to participate. Other times, I
have been strict and said, "sorry". When I do that, I get angry
parents, many negative comments. Even when I use the best of tact
I hear how rude I am being. I tend not to let it all bother me.
I know, you can't please all...all of the time. But really I
hate to alienate.
Once I had a scary story program for older children. I warned
the parents who brought younger children that the stories would
definitely be scary or appealing to older kids. One mother
insisted on letting her 3 year old in. I became quite
persistent in announcing the age level, then proceeded in telling
my story. This special, more mature child didn't last through
the first tale and the mother led the child out after she became
a distraction to the entire audience, thank goodness.
Do you all worry about age levels? Are you strict in sticking
to your requirements? I want to become consistent in dealing
with this problem. Maybe after a while, the parents will get
it. I have a whole week of programming coming up during
Spring Break and I have planned programs for all levels in
order to be fair. Oh, and what about parents who carry siblings
into a program for older kids? How do you tell them they don't
really need to be there for that older child? I'm stumped!
You can reply directly to me. Many thanks!
Chris Harbison sml_chris@chstls.org
Head of Youth Services
Steele Memorial Library
Elmira, NY 14901
fax 607-733-9176
"We read to know we're not alone" C.S.Lewis
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:40:59 1998
From: Kate Carter <katec@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: YA Punishment Zone = the School Library.
If you're looking for librarians in movies, try this website:
http://library.lib.binghamton.edu/subjects/liblit/introduction.html
It lists lots of movies, from Desk Set to Foul Play to Party Girl. As to
positive portrayal, that may be up to interpretation. In Desk Set, for
example, the librarians are against the technological changes; however,
they can answer a question when the computer can't. Party Girl shows
someone working in a library who definitely does not fit the stereotype.
She loses it, though, when a patron decides to reshelve a book himself
(IMHO an absolutely hilarious scene).
Kate Carter
Young People's Librarian email: katec@linknet.kitsap.lib.wa.us
Kitsap Regional Library phone: (360)405-9107
1301 Sylvan Way fax: (360)405-9128
Bremerton, WA 98310
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On Mon, 9 Mar 1998, Erin Gallagher wrote:
> Dear James and list,
>
> As a teen, I thoroughly enjoyed the Breakfast Club, and had not thought
> about the fact that the library was the "prison" for the kids. As
a kid,
> it seemed perfectly normal to me, and I can probably count on one hand the
> number of times I visited the high school library in four years. I did
> think of it as an oppressive place: constantly being shushed and warned,
> even though I barely spoke at a whisper, constantly being hovered over to
> make sure I was doing my homework. They were always miserable experiences.
>
> I believe things have changed a lot since then (about 14 years ago), but
> the people that write the movies may have memories similar to my own.
> Perhaps we librarians need to start our own good PR campaign. Can anyone
> think of any shows or movies that portray librarians in a good light?
>
> Erin
>
>
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Erin Gallagher | Peabody Institute Library
> Head of Children's Services | Peabody, Massachusetts
> gallagher@noblenet.org | *North of Boston Library Exchange*
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Mar 11 18:44:29 1998
From: "Erin V. Helmrich" <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: YA programs
I don't remember who was looking for info. on YA programs but here goes:
We have had great success using a local artist who owns a gallery/store.
She has lots of ideas and has done an authentic "dream catcher"
program
and has shown the kids how to make kaleidoscopes. She has tons of ideas
and would like to do papermaking, beadwork and many others.
I have had a local makeup artist/horror movie buff do a "Movie Makeup
Madness" program where he shows the kids how to make fake skin, fake blood
and lots of other effects. He's loaded with information and the kids love
him.
I have not pulled it together yet but I am hoping to get an Interior
Decorator to come and show the kids how to "jaxx up" their bedroom
with
simple painting techniques, fabric, pillows etc. The hardest part is
finding the person willing to do it.
I have lots of other ideas but the hard part is finding someone to
implement them. I'd like to try "Jeopardy" and "Pictionary"
with the kids
this summer especially because my YA advisory board liked the idea.
Hope this helps a little.
Erin V. Helmrich
Youth Services/Young Adult Librarian
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Royal Oak Public Library
222 E. 11 Mile Rd.
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
Phone: (248) 541-1470
e-mail: helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us
Fax: (248) 545-6220
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