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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:21:09 1998
From: Zuckerbra <Zuckerbra@aol.com>
Subject: Re: working for peanuts?
You are so right. Looking at it from a different perspective-as chairperson
of the board of trustees. We have to deal with budgets alloted us by the town
which determine not only the salary but hours as well. Hours, that is, of the
directors job and the time the library is open. Ultimatly, we depend on the
community's concept of the library--how important is it to the community?
Only by impressing on the community the importance of your existence and
identity will you improve the position and minimal expectations of the
director. Your anger is felt by more than directors of the library.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:20:04 1998
From: Cindy Sampson Fleet <ae754@chebucto.ns.ca>
Subject: re: working for peanuts
Pay scales can be significantly different even in places close to each
other. I have worked as a library assistant for the past 15 years. A few
years ago amalgamation brought together 3 systems with different pay
scales. The scales will be all brought up to the same level but (it's a long
story) it hasn't been done yet. As a Library Assistant III, I make more
than some librarians working in the same amalgamated system! I finished
my MLIS in December and am now in the unique position of being able to
apply for professional jobs that pay less than the one I have now!
On a happier note, at least I was not fired when I received my MLIS. This
was the policy of the system I worked for before amalgamation.
Cindy Sampson Fleet
ae754@chebucto.ns.ca
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:20:57 1998
From: Nancy Gaut <gautna@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Subject: Re: Weight of Alabama
Darcy,
How clever of you to have worked this out! I think you have missed the point,
though.
If I recall the original post correctly, this question was not assigned to test
the
librarian, but as an assignment for an elementary student. Unless the student
were
extremely gifted or motivated an assignment like this would just lead to
frustration.
Even if the librarian were able to figure it out, would the student understand
the
process? This is just an example of another assignment that some teacher failed
to
think through.
Nancy Gaut
Warren-Trumbull County Public Library
gautna@oplin.lib.oh.us
darcy stainton wrote:
<snip>
> Therefore Alabama, from the surface of the earth to the core, weighs
> almost 2 quintillion tons.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:20:07 1998
From: Robin Works Davis <rgwd@sprynet.com>
Subject: Programs for Large Groups of Young Preschoolers
I have had a request by a colleague for any information, ideas, or books
that you have used successfully with very large groups of younger
preschool children, age 3 and under. We already know about the standard
songs, fingerplays, mother goose rhymes, big books, etc, but are looking
for new, unusual, or especially successful things. The situation she is
in does not allow her to add more programs at this time, so she is stuck
with other than the ideal group size. Many times she has had up to 75
children and caregivers at her programs at one time. She does have the
assistance of one other person, so they can divide up the program and
both lead songs, fingerplays, etc at the same time. Does anyone have
anything they would suggest? Please keep in mind this is a very
experienced librarian looking for alternatives and that she cannot
divide up the arttendants into smaller groups or add other programs.
Also, many of the children are VERY young, but the adults there are good
about participating with the children. Practical ideas, not philosophy,
is what she wants. Of special interest are new Big Books, fingerplays,
songs, that work well with the youngest children, or any really fun or
unusual thing you have done. Please reply to me or to the list. TIA!!
Robin Works Davis
Youth Services Librarian
Robin Works Davis <rgwd@sprynet.com>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:20:08 1998
From: "Schwartz, Ginger J." <GJS8126a@co.prince-william.va.us>
Subject: Re: Funny Reference Questions
This week I had a 10-year-old girl ask for any books by Frances
Haagen-Dazs Burnett. As a former Haagen-Dazs employee I had to laugh.
Ginger J. Schwartz
Children's Librarian
Potomac Community Library
2201 Opitz Blvd.
Woodbridge, VA 22191
(703) 494 - 8126
gjs8126a@co.prince-william.va.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:20:06 1998
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: re:working for peanuts?
PU>Trudy and all,
PU>As an MLS student facing graduation in 2 years, I too am pondering the
PU>wisdom of seeking this degree.
PU>Without pointing fingers, I can't help noticing that several of the
PU>positions posted lately require an MLS, yet pay significantly lower wages
PU>than I make as a paraprofessional.
PU>So tell me, am I crazy to pursue this degree? I love the work, but I'd
PU>sure like to be able to pay my bills, too! Would anyone care to comment?
NO, you're not crazy if 1. you're good 2. you're enjoyable to work with
and 3. you're mobile; for whatever reason the same job pays a lot better
in some parts of the country like the NW than it does in others. If you
can't relocate, you could have problems if you live in an area where the
prevailing rate is almost enough to extricate you from poverty.
CBS
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:19:49 1998
From: Cynthia Stilley <cstilley@ns.flint.lib.mi.us>
Subject: YA librarians & children's services
Recently I asked, how many of you YA librarians work out of the children's
room and how many work from adult reference. I got 20 responses (thank
you) and for the most part, you YA librarians are affiliated with Adult
Reference. Most times you are not situated in the YA browsing area but are
in reference, nonfiction.There are a few who are connected with children's
but most of you are trying to move your affiliation. On a personal
impression level, it seems that many of you feel neither fish nor fowl.
This aptly reflects how your YA patrons feel about themselves in society.
Thanks for your replys. It helped in my recommendations for our system.
_____________________________________________________________________________
Cynthia S. Stilley (810) 232-7111 #234
Flint Public Library FAX: (810)232-8360
1026 E. Kearsley, cstilley@flint.lib.mi.us
Flint, MI 48502 http://www.flint.lib.mi.us/fpl.html
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:19:50 1998
From: Sheila Anderson <sanderso@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us>
Subject: Culture Chat
Greetings:
Along with Dr. Gwendolyn Davis, Literary Specialist in Durham, NC
(dr.book@mindspring.com), I am conducting a program at the Cumberland
County Public Library and Information Center in Fayetteville, NC entitled
Culture Chat. A local actress will train young adults how to do readers
theater, and the troupe will perform at area libraries and a local
theater. We are choosing passages from young adults novels concerning
different cultures and race relations. If anyone has suggestions of
specific dialogues from popular young adult literature, in either English
or Spanish, please contact me at sanderso@cumberland.lib.nc.us.
Thanks--Sheila Anderson, Student Liaison Librarian, CCPL&IC
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| Sheila Anderson |
| Student Liaison Librarian |
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| Mail: Cumberland County Public Library & Information Center |
| Information Services |
| 300 Maiden Lane |
| Fayetteville, North Carolina 28301-5000 |
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| E-Mail: sanderso@cumberland.lib.nc.us |
| Web Page: http://www.cumberland.lib.nc.us |
| Phone: (910) 483-7878 ext 225 |
| Fax: (910) 486-6661 |
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Sun Apr 19 13:20:08 1998
From: Susan Price-Stephens <susan.price-stephens@treasure.lpl.london.on.ca>
Subject: re:working for peanuts? -Reply
Working for peanuts - I am always amazed at the
qualifications/experience positions require and the pay. I am a
library technician and I have MLIS. I knew going into this
profession that even though I know it is important and challenging
that not everyone else appreciates this and I would never be rich.
So I do this out of love and commitment. My wish is that through
good works people will come to see the value in what we do.
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