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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:24:43 1998
From: SHERYL BAILEY <BAILEYS@charleston.lib.sc.us>
Subject: Re: Nancy Drew
All this discussion of Nancy Drew and other series books, and whether they're
worth reading or not, and whether they appeal primarily to poor readers or not
makes me remember what a very wise (to my way of thinking) English teacher said
to us in high school: "You should read everything from trash to the
sublime;
how else will you learn to tell the difference?"
I still cringe when the new junior novelization of a Disney film arrives, or
when a colleague adds my name to the reserve list for Danielle Steele's latest,
but I try to remember what Ms. Lamb said way back when. And I do believe that
good readers will find their way to the 'better' stuff and that, if poor
readers read nothing but formulaic series books - well, at least they're
*reading*!
BTW, I was an avid reader of Nancy Drew until early 4th grade, when Nancy did
something very (uncharacteristically) careless (can't remember which book -
maybe 'Whispering Statue'?), and I realized my literary heroine had feet of
clay. That was the end of Nancy Drew & me!
Sheryl Bailey
Charleston County (SC) Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:24:52 1998
From: "Janet Eckert" <wmrls2@crocker.com>
Subject: Re: library scavenger hunt
Greetings!
The Massachusetts Regional Library Systems have a link to Internet
Scavenger Hunts on our Unlock the Mystery - Read! Web Site
[http://www.wmrls.org/sum98.html]. Hope this helps. Sincerely, janet
eckert, western massachusetts regional library system
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> For one of our Summer Reading programs we want to have a scavenger hunt
> within the library using books, inhouse CD-ROMS, online card catalog,
maybe
> Internet.<snip>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:24:52 1998
From: Mimi Dasovich <dasovicm@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us>
Subject: Re: Nancy Drew - Girls and Cars
A great anthology of short stories about how young women bond with cars
is: Ladies, Start Your Engines, edited by Elinor Nauen. Some of them
would be good for older YA's: a lot of the protagonists are teenagers,
and the stories are about first cars, learning to drive, boyfriends and
cars, etc.. Authors include Jayne Anne Phillips, Joyce Carol Oates
(Faber & Faber, 1996).
The cover is fun and attractive: it has a vintage 1950's photo of a girl
waving from the front seat of her convertible. ( I think: haven't seen it
for nearly a year.)
Mimi Dasovich
Youth Services Librarian
East Columbia Branch Library
6600 Cradlerock Way
Columbia, MD 21045
(410)313-7715
dasovicm@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:24:56 1998
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: re:working for peanuts? -Reply
On Fri, 24 Apr 1998 cedwards@mpls.lib.mn.us wrote:
> I've been reading the comments about library pay for youth services
> with interest. I am single and use my salary as my sole support. I
> think historically that women were assumed to have "other" ways
to
> support themselves and their work salary was more in the line of a
> gratuity, and this is a female dominated profession.
Not always. It started out a male dominated position. (I'm thinking
1820s or so) They didn't make much then, either....
>
> I have trouble with the logic that we must look for other rewards and
> accept the low pay. Would you ask your Doctor to accept low pay
> because he was doing important rewarding work? Would he listen if you
> did?
Private sector, no. Public sector, yes. For samples check out
the salaries of doctors in the (now defunt, of course) Soviet
Union. Weathier countries, of course, can pay public sector care
providers more, but that's true of librarians in the U.S., too.
It's the breaks.
Kirsten
kirstedw@kcls.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:24:55 1998
From: Brenda Hauck <hauckbr@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Chat Rooms
We currently do not allow patrons to use "chat rooms" on the Internet.
Our director is going to request that the board change this policy to
allow access to chat rooms.
I know that their are libraries that do allow "chat rooms". I would
like
to hear your positive and negative responses regarding your experiences
with this.
TIA
Brenda Hauck
Young Adult Specialist
Swanton Public Library
hauckbr@oplin.lib.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:25:00 1998
From: Naughyde <Naughyde@aol.com>
Subject: RE: Pix of YA areas
There was a post a few days back about pictures of YA areas. Many of the YA
web pages - although I can't recall which ones - listed in the YA web page
directory Virtual YA: (http://members.aol.com/naughyde/publibya.htm) contain
photos of YA areas.
I have just recently done the latest update of this web page adding a dozen
new sites.
Much like the Young Adult Librarian's Help/Homepage, I have found that I can
no longer give this paget the time/attention is needs, so if there are any
librarians, academics or library school students looking for a project, let me
know if you would be interested in taking over maintaining this directory
Patrick Jones
Connecting Young Adults and Libraries
http://members.aol.com/naughyde/connecting/index.htm
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:25:19 1998
From: Renee Capitanio <rcapitan@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: YA Rooms
I have about four days to decide what to include in my new YA room
before the plans go out to bid. Does anyone have any thoughts on things
they would like to have or things they left out but wish they hadn't?
I'm already looking at tackable walls, a gallery wall in the small
meeting room, comfie chairs, and tables. Any design ideas?
Thanks!
Renee Capitanio rcapitan@suffolk.lib.ny.us
YA Librarian
Sachem Public Library
150 Holbrook Rd.
Holbrook, NY 11741
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:25:40 1998
From: Jinder Johal <Jinder.Johal@rpl.richmond.bc.ca>
Subject: Quotes
I am compiling a list of interesting quotes relating to libaries in any
way: quote can be about books, reading, knowledge, computers etc. For
example Emily Dickinson's "There is no frigate like a book / To take us
lands away". Does anyone have a favourite short but memorable quote you
might have time to send my way? Please include name of author of quote
and send directlly to me. Thank you in advance.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:25:57 1998
From: Stacey Freedman <freedmas@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us>
Subject: the last nancy drew! (summary)
Dear all of you Nancy Drew fans (and those who are sick of her, too),
Thank you so much for your enthusiastic response to my query! I
received over 200 replies in less than a week. Whew! I was going to
print them all to take to class, but I don't think I have enough paper (or
ink). The responses were quite interesting. Most people truly enjoyed
the series. It seemed split with which series was read. FYI, the
originals were blue covers and the revised editons were the yellowbacks.
Someone mentioned green, and I'm not sure where those came from (possibly
a faded blue cover?). There were a number of people who didn't like Nancy
because she was so perfect or unbelieveable or annoying. All valid
complaints at one time or another.
What I find so wonderful is that a series that is often criticized
for it's lack of intellectual stimulation or literary quality provides
such a wide range of emotions and responses. Good or bad, a lot of people
had memories of Nancy Drew. Will we say the same of the Baby-sitters Club
in 30 or 50 years? (Nancy is 68 years old!) The funniest thing is,
though most knew the names of the main characters (George & Ned were the
most frequently mentioned) most people couldn't remember the plot of any
of the books. (Don't yell, I know some people did remember.) It almost
makes Nancy seem more of a cult figure. Everyone admires her, but they're
not quite sure of all of the details!
Another common thread was how Nancy Drew got people interested in
or started in reading. The librarians in us may disagree in our opinions
of Nancy, but most recognize the value of the formula series book. One
person put it best (Lesley Knieriem--it took me 20 minutes to find your
post!): Series books are like pizza. As adults we can't eat a lot of
pizza-we soon get bored with it. Kids could eat pizza 24/7 and not get
tired of it. Same goes for series books. Adults may find the formulas
repetitive and boring, but kids eat it up (sorry for the pun--it's late).
I must admit, your enthusiasm kept me going. It's that end of the
semester crunch and with three major papers to write, I needed the levity
and comraderie that your posts provided! For those of you interested, the
focus of my paper is comparing how Nancy has changed between the originals
and the revisions, specifically looking at how racial stereotypes were
handled then later removed and how Nancy's character changed--she becomes
much less independent in the revisions. My original observations compared
Nancy's character changes with the changes in the illustrations of the
books. Nancy's flat character is represented by some truly awful
illustrations! (If you don't believe me, take a look at the illustrations
of THE MYSTERY OF THE BRASS BOUND TRUNK or THE MYSTERY OF THE IVORY CHARM
as examples).
Again, thank you all for your enthusiasm. (And thank the rest of
you for putting up with nostalgia!)
Stacey
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%% "Nothing good was ever achieved without enthusiasm." %%
%% Ralph Waldo Emerson %%
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Stacey Freedman
Children's Programmer
East Columbia Branch Library
410/313-7730 410/313-7717
freedmas@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us
On Tue, 21 Apr 1998, Stacey Freedman wrote:
> Dear all,
> Today, while on campus at UMCP, I was carrying two large shopping
> bags full of books when one bag broke. The bag was filled with Nancy Drew
> books. As I was putting them back into the bag, a woman came up behind me
> to help. "Oh!" she exclaimed, "these were my FAVORITE books
growing up!"
> She then helped me carry the bags into the building. Getting that
> response from a total stranger was very interesting.
> I'm schlepping these books around for a paper/project on Nancy Drew for
> my Advanced Children's Literature class and I'm curious to hear responses
> from all of you out in Library-land (or book reviewer land). Does the
> name "Nancy Drew" evoke any kind of response in you? Does it
bring back
> memories (fond or otherwise)? When you read them, did you read the
> originals (Nancy was blonde and drove a blue roadster) or the revised
> "yellowbacks" (Nancy had red/titian/strawberry blonde hair and
drove a
> blue convertible)?
>
> Thanks in Advance!
>
> Stacey Freedman
> freedmas@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us
>
> Please feel free to respond to me privately or to share with the list(s).
>
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
> %% "Nothing good was ever achieved without enthusiasm." %%
> %% Ralph Waldo Emerson %%
> %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
>
>
> Stacey Freedman
> Children's Programmer
> East Columbia Branch Library
> 410/313-7730 410/313-7717
> freedmas@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us
>
>
>
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:26:17 1998
From: Stacey Freedman <freedmas@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us>
Subject: For further reading--Nancy Drew
Here are some books* you may be interested in if you want to read more
about Nancy Drew. (They are in no particular order--just what I could
find first on my floor under piles of articles, notes, etc.):
REDISCOVERING NANCY DREW
edited by Carolyn Stewart Dyer & Nancy Tillman Romalov
(This came from the Nancy Drew Conference at the University of Iowa-1993)
THE GIRL SLEUTH: A FEMINIST GUIDE by Bobbie Ann Mason
GIRL SLEUTH ON THE COUCH: THE MYSTERY OF NANCY DREW by Besty Caprio
THE NANCY DREW SCRAPBOOK: 60 YEARS OF AMERICA'S FAVORITE TEENAGE SLEUTH
by Karen Plunkett-Powell
EDWARD STRATEMEYER AND THE STRATEMEYER SYNDICATE by Deidre Johnson
THE SECRET OF THE STRATEMEYER SYNDICATE: NANCY DREW, THE HARDY BOYS, AND
THE MILLION DOLLAR FICTION FACTORY by Carol Billman
Also, if you haven't read one of the originals, check out one of the
Applewood Press books. Mildred Wirt Benson wrote introductions for two of
them and the others are introduced by various female mystery writers.
Stacey
*If you're REALLY interested and want more (articles and such) e-mail me
privately and I'll send you a list.
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%% "Nothing good was ever achieved without enthusiasm." %%
%% Ralph Waldo Emerson %%
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Stacey Freedman
Children's Programmer
East Columbia Branch Library
410/313-7730 410/313-7717
freedmas@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:26:26 1998
From: maureen lerch <lerchma@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Jane Magazine
Another great magazine out there for the teen young women is "Jump."
Anyone else have it their collections? It focuses much less on "how to
get a guy" and more on how to be an independent, active, smart woman.
Lots of emphasis on sports and stuff. When we tested it on young adults
in the Findlay, Ohio area, the girls just ate it up.
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Maureen T. Lerch
Louisville Public Library
700 Lincoln Ave.
Louisville, Ohio 44641
(330)875-1696
lerchma@oplin.lib.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:24:31 1998
From: Guarria <cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: experience with school librarians
I must say, I hadn't thought about it before, but my own positive
experiences with school librarians probably did influence me in my career
decision on some level. I remember LOVING the library period when the
librarian would read aloud to us and then let us pick out books. She was
always very patient and kind when helping me find what I needed. There is
one incident I will always remember, though it has nothing to do with
"library" issues, per say, but with her wonderful attitude toward
children.
When I was in fourth grade, my regular teacher was not a very nice person
as I remember it. One boy (a chronic disrupter (sp?) of class) did not
feel well one day and she refused to allow him to go to the nurse. He
began to really cry, but she was adamant
that he wasn't sick, and was really being quite nasty to him. When the
class went to library he was still red-faced and crying, and I remember
before class began the librarian and the teacher having a heated
discussion just outside the door. (I assume it was about this poor boy and
whether or not to send him to the nurse.) The upshot of it all is that the
librarian came in and immediately went to the boy, asked how he felt, and
gave him a pass to the nurse. (He must have really been sick because he
did go home. Either that or the nurse saw how distraught he was and
decided to give him a break from my teacher for the rest of the day.)
Anyway, I will always remember that librarian as being a champion for
children's rights and a protector and lover of children. Funny how such
incidents shape our perceptions. By the way, after about twenty years the
teacher is STILL teaching at the same school (different grade), and
whenever I see her name I still think of that incident.
Carrie
cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:27:08 1998
From: Bobbi Ludwig <BJ.Ludwig@marquette.edu>
ubject: Re: Jane Magazine
At 10:34 AM 4/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Just wanted to add to the reply to Kirsten Edwards' question about
>Jane Magazine. It's edited by the former editor of Sassy, but it's aimed
>at a somewhat older audience -- women in their late teens and 20s. From a
>quick scan at the bookstore, it looks more like Cosmopolitan or Glamour
>than Teen or Seventeen (for example, one cover story was "How to be the
>best in bed"). I'm sure it will appeal to teens, though.
I took Jane magazine up on their free-issue offer, and have ended up
subscribing to it . . . I despise magazines such as Cosmo and Glamour, et
al, but thought this one was a little more hip and a little less damaging
as far as presenting unrealistic images of women, etc etc . . . I won't go
into that rant here . . . the first issue I read still had certain things
that were ridiculous (LOTS AND LOTS of typical ads, articles that were
still a bit too typical for me) but I also really liked the perspective and
thought that it was a little bit closer to "reality" than most women's
magazines . . . unfortunately, after the first couple of issues, I have
been way too busy to read them . . . it is geared towards that
twentysomething range, but I think if teens (esp.mature teens) are going to
be reading magazines like Glamour or Cosmo, this is a much better offering
. . . (imho, of course).
BTW, because I do not think I've posted anything publicly yet on this
listserv, I'll quickly say why I'm here--I am a graduate student in library
and information science, that despite working in an academic (public
service) library setting for years, has a huge interest in/appreciation for
children's lit and children/YA librarianship . . . I am hoping the many
things I have learned by reading this list will help me in my Library
Services for Children and Young Adults class next semester . . . I may be a
silent lurker, but this list is wonderful! Thank you!
Bobbi Ludwig
Day Supervisor
Marquette Science Library
BJ.Ludwig@marquette.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:27:05 1998
From: Julie Shatterly <julies@lyon.york.lib.sc.us>
Subject: employee incentive program
I am on a committee to investigate an incentive program for library staff.
Our idea is to distribute forms to all public services desks where staff
as well as customers can fill out - after the particular staff member
receives 5 positive froms they are recognized at a library board meeting.
I've found examples of other businesses usuing an incentive program, but
no libraries. Does anybody have any guidelines, pointers, or insight on
these types of programs? Please reply directly to me.
Julie G. Shatterly
Children's Department Manager
York County Library
P.O. Box 10032
Rock Hill, SC 29731
PH: (803)324-7588
FAX: (803)328-9290
julies@lyon.york.lib.sc.us
Views represented are strictly personal and do not necessarily represent
those of the York County Library.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:27:47 1998
From: "Elizabeth S. Gallaway" <egallawa@concentric.net>
Subject: Re: gaming magazines
I subscribe to Jane, and loaned our YA librarian a copy to peruse for
possible subsription for the YA dept. I was a former Sassty buff,
though, and Jane seems directed right AT former Sassy readers... hip,
lots of interesting articles... more than just clothes, boys, & and
relationships. I do think it is geared to a slightly older (college
crowd, young career women) audience than Sassy, but I think teen readers
would find appeal in Pratt's fresh approach to journalism
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 14:46:56 1998
From: Candace Jackson <candace@museummania.com>
ubject: Re: library scavenger hunt
At 02:53 PM 4/24/98 -0700, you wrote:
>For one of our Summer Reading programs we want to have a scavenger
hunt<snip>
Dear Bron,
The scavenger hunt that you are referring to the Museum Mania Treasure Hunt. It
has been 16 months in the making. It was originally commissioned by the San
Bernardino County Library System through the Sesquicentennial. The books, A
Treasure Hunt in My Library and My Very Own Library Treasure Hunt are making
their debut at the L.A. Times Festival of Books, this weekend.
The fourth grade teacher in the book assigns her students a project about the
California Sesquicentennial, and how the Gold Rush affected the State's history.
A brother and sister go to the library after school and meet two critters, Dewee
Decimal, a caterpillar who thinks he's a bookworm and his side kick Libby
O'Congress, a 'way cool' preteen butterfly. The critters take the children for a
treasure hunt in their public library.
The secondary book is called My Very Own Library Treasure Hunt. It is designed
for children to take to their public library to complete.
The books teach children how to use the typical library computer, the Dewey
Decimal Classification System, and the Internet access computer. You can get
more information at the following address http://www.museummania.com/library.htm
Candace Jackson>
<center><bold><bigger>Museum Mania (</bigger>TM)
</bold>5699 Kanan Road Suite #142
Agoura Hills, CA 91301
voice: 818-707-4289
fax: 818-707-8690
e-mail: candace@museummania.com
http://www.museummania.com</center>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 15:33:01 1998
From: "Mary Moody" <mmoody@vigo.lib.in.us>
Subject: Internet Summer Camp
Greetings,
I have been asked to do an Internet Summer Camp, onTuesdays in June
and July. Does anyone have any ideas for format,
activities, etc? Any help would be appreciated
Thanks in advance,
Mary Moody
Young People's Librarian
Vigo County Public Library
\o/ \o/ \o/ "Let everything that hath breath Praise the Lord!"
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 16:32:08 1998
From: Catherine Chesher <cchesh@tc3net.com>
Subject: Nancy Drew
What is it about Nancy Drew books and cousins? I had a cousin who had
"all" the Nancy Drew books all neatly arranged on a shelf in her OWN
ROOM! While I had only a handful of my own books in a room I shared with 2
sisters. Was I envious? Oh yes! Even after I read 1 or 2 of her Nancy books and
decided I didn't like them. They were stupid and all the same! But I still
wished I had all of those little blue (or yellow or whatever) books lined up on
the shelves in MY room.
A few years later, I too discovered Agatha Christie and read every book of hers
I could get my hands on.
Cathy Chesher
Adrian PUblic LIbrary
Adrian, Michigan
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 16:46:40 1998
From: Becky Tatar <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
ubject: Re: YA periodicals
At 02:56 PM 4/23/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Hi, I'm looking to add some YA periodicals to my collections, and I have
>just a few ideas. If anyone knows any really good titles that work well
>for YAs (especially in urban settings), please send me your top choices.
3 of my most popular titles are Nintendo Power, Ultra Game Pro and Lowrider.
These are three that "word of mouth" have definitely helped. As far as
resources, Patrick Jones' book on young adult services is excellent.
-----------------------------------
Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals/Audio-Visual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL 60505
Phone: 630/264-4100, x4116
FAX: 630/896-3209
e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
Opinions are my own.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 17:34:19 1998
From: Virginia Cooper <vcooper@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Nancy Drew
I have nothing but fond memories of Nancy Drew and still hold on to my
old blue inherited ones where Nancy had her roadster and went to luncheons.
When we were teenagers I remember rolling around the floor laughing
about how "perfect" Nancy, was with a cousin. She later became a
homicide
detective for the NYPD!!??
Virginia Cooper
Youth Services Librarian
Henrietta Public Library
vcooper@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 17:46:39 1998
From: Ellie Ivan <ellie.ivan@treasure.lpl.london.on.ca>
Subject: Good ole Nancy
I too have great memories of good ole Nancy Drew. I remember going
once every Tuesday evening after school to a fleemarket (it was
called the Aylmer Salesbarn) and dashing to the used book area to buy
any Nancy Drews. These were hardcovers and had great pictures of some
spooky scene on the front. I loved these books and even though I was
a very strong reader I didn't mind the 'predictability'. I thought it
was great that Nancy always solved the cases. Cool car too! I
remember wanted to get them 'in order' as much as possible. Every
time I see any of these oldies on a library shelf it makes me smile.
Don't see them much any more though.. mostly paperbacks.
It was nice to remember my enthusiasm for this series.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 18:12:18 1998
From: "The Erdman's" <erdman@epix.net>
Subject: Re: Nancy Drew
I echo Elaine Morgan's sentiments on Nancy Drew. During the summer
after my 5th grade school year I moved to a new town, found the public
library and rode my bicycle to it every other day for 4 Nancy Drew or
Hardy Boys books. I thoroughly enjoyed them and it wasn't until I went
to my young adult literature class in undergraduate school (1981) that I
learned this was not good literature. To this day, I am still a mystery
reader and I know this originated from my Nancy Drew days.
--
Sue Erdman, Director Mechanicsburg Area Public Library
erdman@epix.net 16 N. Walnut St.
717-766-0171 phone Mechanicsburg, PA 17055
717-766-0152 fax
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 18:29:17 1998
From: SAR_DUTCH@sals.edu
Subject: RE: Upholstered vs. wooden seating
Our recently opened library has several different types of seating, and
I would have to say that upholstered chairs, with cushions that can be
easily removed from the frame for cleaning and/or repair seem best. key
feature for us has been the ease with which chairs slide on our carpet,
and the best, in fact the only brand that works well at all, are the
Bola chairs (that's the brand name) that we have in our children's room.
Each leg of the sturdy metal frame has a large ball at the bottom which
slides very nicely but still doesn't easily tip.
One other chair thought--I would be most concerned about comfort in chairs
used at programs, where the audience is captive. Patrons can stretch,
get up and down, etc. when in study area chairs, but cannot do so in
programs. There are some very comfortable stacking chairs--expensive but
worth it!
Harry Dutcher, Director
Saratoga Springs Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 18:37:44 1998
From: "Kathy Tyson" <kathyt@lvccld.lib.nv.us>
Subject: Re: XX Empowered Young Females magazine
Jean was right, there WAS a website for "XX Empowered" It is no longer
available. I tried to access it today (Friday) and had no luck. Looks
like the whole thing has gone under.
Kathy T
jcanosa@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org wrote:
>
> Some months ago I posted about the "delay" in publishing new
issues
> of this mag...the representative said they'd been bought out & would
> start publishing again by no later than the beginning of '98.
> Well...now EBSCO says they're out of business. No refunds. :(
> I have a feeling they may be on the web in some form.
> Jean
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 19:02:04 1998
From: Edmonds Reference Library <edmref@sno-isle.org>
Subject: Re: YA periodicals
Wally Bubelis wrote:
>
> Hi, I'm looking to add some YA periodicals to my collections, and I have
> just a few ideas. If anyone knows any really good titles that work well
> for YAs (especially in urban settings), please send me your top choices.
> Also, if you can tell me of any resources that would sum up this info,
> please tell me about those as well. I'll sum up and post the list back
> to Pubyac.
> Thanks,
> wally bubelis
> Seattle Public Library
Wally,
The YA periodicals that are in big demand here at
Edmonds are: Bop, Gamepro, Mad, Seventeen, Teen & Thrasher.
Also, Rolling Stone which is in our adult magazine collection.
Tom Reynolds
A/YA Librarian
Edmonds
Edmref@sno-isle.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 19:14:51 1998
From: "Kate McCaffrey, Dan Carno" <598161@ican.net>
ubject: Re: Nancy Drew
I was an avid reader of Nancy Drew mysteries, the old ones I think. Nancy
was definitely blond, her friends George and Bess were boyish and plump,
respectively. She drove a roadster, and though I wasn't absolutely clear
on what a roadster was I thought she was very cool. She was brave and
honest and loyal - who can find fault with that? I read lots of other
things too - just about anything that was around - from the time I was
eleven or twelve I read whatever my parents were reading. [Fortunately for
me they had pretty good taste.] It's made me pretty tolerant of series
books in my library. Some children will never go beyond them - just as
many adults only read one author or one type of book. Others will outgrow
them and move on to other, and better literature. I don't recommend them,
but I understand their allure.
Stacey, now I'm curious about the content of your paper. Can you tell us
former Nancy Drew readers a little bit about it?
Kate McCaffrey
Onondaga County Public Library
4514 Makyes Road
Syracuse, NY 13215
(315) 492-2987
598161@ican.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 19:30:36 1998
From: "Lisa Prolman" <lprolman@hotmail.com>
Subject: re: Nancy Drew and Hardy Boys
As a child, I didn't have much use for Nancy Drew but read every Hardy
Boys book I could put my hands on (as well as the Judy Bolton books I
found in my parents' basement). While I knew the HB weren't great
literature, I found the mysteries interesting as they took the boys
places I had never been and the relationships with their friends to be a
lot of fun. I also had an Aunt Gertrude (not nearly as peppery as
theirs) and that added to the fun.
I was disappointed in the Casefiles series that came out when I was in
college. I found it violent and unbelievable to the extreme. It also
destroyed the friendship between all the boys in their group. Worst of
all, they started killing off characters!
I have had more fun, however, in comparing the yellow-back Nancy Drews
and the blue-back Hardy Boys with the older series. One of the first
HBs had the boys in a one room school house where the conflict of the
chapter was that Chet had hidden his lunch -- a fish sandwich -- in
Frank's desk! The 20's version of one ND had the girls going to South
America on a steamer and described in detail purchasing a steamer trunk
and evening frocks -- there's that word again -- from the local
department store on account by Nancy's personal salesclerk and having
the alterations done for free. The earlier incarnations, if nothing
else, have given me a glimpse at America in different time (gasp)
without MALLS!!!!
Lisa Prolman
Assistant Children's Librarian "Why make something simple
Greenfield Public Library and efficient when it can
Greenfield, MA complex and wonderful!"
(413)772-1590
lprolman@hotmail.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon Apr 27 19:38:18 1998
From: darcy stainton <darcysta@vpl.vancouver.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Librarian Wages
I always enjoy reading Kirsten Edwards' postings -- so well thought out
and down-to-earth! Unfortunately, I deleted her most recent offering
about librarian wages. (So please forgive any misspelling of your
name, Kirsten!)
I agree that while the nature of public librarianship is "parasitic"
in
nature (feeding at the proverbial public trough), I think there are ways
in which we can enhance our public value. City Engineers, for example, do
not work for the Fire Department, School System, Hospital, or Police, yet
are paid significantly more where I live (and I suspect around North
America), than librarians. Same with lawyers who work for the City I live
in.
I suspect a lot of it has to do with esteem. Our profession suffers from
a grave lack of it. I saw a survey a few years back, that asked people to
rank professions based on the amount of schooling and expertise they
would expect the person in the job to have. Surgeons, dentists, lawyers,
etc. all came out at the top. Librarians ranked above sanitation workers
and babysitters, but not much else. We were beaten out, if I recall, by
bartenders, office workers, store managers, and a host of other jobs that
I respect, but don't believe require six years of university.
I would be curious to know how many of us visit schools on career days. I
have made some visits, promoting librarianship as a profession, but have
also been stung by rebuffs -- schools will invite everyone from
homemakers to firefighters, but will reject the idea of having a
librarian (much less a _children's_ librarian).
I think we need to find ways to boost our image. I've been doing parent
talks, school visits, etc., where I talk about the kind of work I do at
the library. I think it's starting to have a beneficial effect -- but I'm
not holding my breath for a pay increase in the near future :)
Anybody else have any ideas for building esteem in our profession?
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D'Arcy Stainton, Community Librarian
Joe Fortes Branch, Vancouver Public Library
Phone: (604) 665-3972
Fax: (604) 665-3524
http://www.vpl.vancouver.bc.ca
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