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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:53:14 1998
From: Lauren Levy <levyl@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Re: dog crafts


How about a dog puppet? All you need is a paper lunch bag and a dog face
to paste on the bottom of the bag. The children can paste or draw on legs
and a tail.

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* Lauren Levy *
* Tampa, Fl *
* levyl@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us *
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* So many books, *
* So little time. *
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:54:35 1998
From: Kim Kietzman <kkietzma@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Parents attending teen programs


While I agree that teens need their space and that their programs should
be just for them, I am uncomfortable with Mr. Sullivan's reply in regards
to children's programming. We require parents with preschoolers (not
necessarily elementary age children) in part for safety. It is awfully
hard to watch, discipline, and keep safe 10 to 15 preschoolers. I also
don't want to be the one disciplining those children. Also, part of
the purpose of these programs is to bring families together to read, use
the library, and grow to love reading as a family. I also
think that it is a wonderful way for busy parents to spend some time with
their children.

I don't know about your library, but we can get some really "unique"
people in here, and the need for child safety from strangers also plays a
role.

Kim Boynton Kietzman
Assistant Children's Librarian
Rock Island Public Library
kkietzma@libby.rbls.lib.il.us

All opinions are mine and not necessarily that of the Rock Island Public
Library.

> I'm also not keen on having parents in children's programs. I find
> they usually end up just spoiling things for their kid. They may be
> well meaning, but they interfere, particularly in craft programs.
> They'll tell kids they're doing things wrong or just do everything for
> them. I also find it very irritating when kids (children and teens)
> are in the library looking for books and information and their parents
> do all the talking!
>
> If I were King of the Library, I would just have a general ban of all
> parents from children's rooms and extend an occasional invitation only
> to them for a family literacy or parent-child program. But, alas,
> these are only autocratic dreams.
>
>
> Ed Sullivan, Senior Project Librarian
> The New York Public Library
> Connecting Libraries and Schools Project
>



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:53:44 1998
From: LaMorte <tlamorte@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Chat in library


At our library, children and ya's have access to the internet provided
that their parent has signed a consent form. Furthermore, the parent must
be with the child whenever the child is using the internet. All of our
internet connections are filter-free. Ya's can begin using the internet
alone from age 15 (9th grade) provided their parent has signed a consent
form, otherwise they must continue using it in the children's room with
their parent. I will forward our policy to you shortly. Hope this is of
help to you. Good luck!

Sincerely,
Teresa La Morte
tlamorte@suffolk.lib.ny.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:56:29 1998
From: McSwain <mcswaink@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Star Legneds and literature


This is my first posting, and I hope that you can help me with this
question. Our local elementary school is having what is called the "Star
Lab" come to visit for a week. This is an annual event and the prinicpal would
like to tie in literature with the star lab. We have found the book
Follow the Drinking Gourd, and some collective Native American and Greek
myths to support her request. If anyone knows of any specific titles
that would help with this request please send them dirrectly to me. I
will compile a list if any titles are sent. TIA
Kathleen McSwain
Youth Services Librarian
Chicago Ridge Public Library
Chicago Ridge, IL
mcswaink@sls.lib.il.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:52:50 1998
From: RichardGuy <RichardGuy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Chat rooms


My favorite was the lady who complained at school that her child was logging
into chat rooms AT HOME. Wanted the school to do something about it.

Richard K. Moore, Librarian
Bolsa Grande High School
Garden Grove, CA
Email: RichardGuy@AOL.COM

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mber/website, I would be very grateful.

Please send the information to me directly at cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca.
I will post to the list if other people are interested.

Thanks

Claire Isaac
Regina Public Library
Regina, Saskatchewan




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:52:51 1998
From: Ana Bartlett <abartlet@connect.bedlib.org>
Subject: ideas for young adult programming


i was hoping to receive some suggestions on young adult programs.
first and foremost, they need to be somewhat quick and easy. also, i
would be interested in hearing any ideas/experiences you have had with a
funny video theme or a top ten list theme. these are a few ideas and i
would appreciate any do's and don't's that you might recommend.

thanks so much,
ana bartlett


ana bartlett
bedford public library
bedford, in 47421
abartlet@bedlib.org



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:55:16 1998
From: Anne Royer <asroyer@mailbox.lpl.org>
ubject: Re: Dinosaur Dig Results


>Hello!
>
>Thank you to those who sent ideas for the dinosaur dig/fossil hunt
>question. I had requests to post them. Here is an abbreviated summary:

I didn't see your original post, but thought you might like this simple
idea. Last month I did a Prehistoric Preschoolers program ages 2-5. I did
an activity that was thought up by a former staff member. You take a deep
cardboard box- a computer box is perfect. You fill it about 1/3 to 1/2 of
the way with shredded paper- from a paper shredder. You hide plastic
easter egss filled with in this case stickers. The kids loved it!!



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:52:58 1998
From: RichardGuy <RichardGuy@aol.com>
Subject: Re: Re: Chat rooms


My favorite was the lady who complained at school that her child was logging
into chat rooms AT HOME. Wanted the school to do something about it.

Richard K. Moore, Librarian
Bolsa Grande High School
Garden Grove, CA
Email: RichardGuy@AOL.COM

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Wouldn't it be great if we lived in a world where insecurity and desperation
made us more attractive? - Albert Brooks, Broadcast News
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( ( Listened to a good book lately?
( (
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( ( \\
( ( \\__/_/
( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( ( (
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mber/website, I would be very grateful.

Please send the information to me directly at cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca.
I will post to the list if other people are interested.

Thanks

Claire Isaac
Regina Public Library
Regina, Saskatchewan




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:53:00 1998
From: "Aarene X. Storms" <astorms@cob.org>
ubject: re:library book bags


Our library sells both "adult" bags and "children's" canvas book bags.

The logo on the children's bag changes periodically to reflect summer
reading themes, etc. It is smaller and also shallower, with shorter
handles. Our reasoning is that we wanted the kids to be able to *carry*
their bags, so we made them less likely to get over-heavy or -long.

Our favorite extra touch: a clear-plastic pocket inside the bag for the
library card. Face the card barcode-out, and you can scan it through the
pocket! We were very proud of that.

We have them made by a local agency; cost to the buyer is $5 for the
adult's bags, $4 for the children's bags.

(We always have tons of reusable grocery-type plastic bags as
giveaways...it rains a lot here!)

--Aarene Storms
Bellingham Public Library
Bellingham WA
astorms@cob.org


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:56:17 1998
From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu>
Subject: Re: bags



At my local public library, the bags are for sale except on rainy days,
when they give them away in the interest of preservation.

Andrea Johnson
University of Illinois
ajohnson@uiuc.edu


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:56:01 1998
From: Edmonds Library Reference Dept <edmref@sno-isle.org>
Subject: Re: young adult literary awards


K. Wegener wrote:
>
> I am doing a research paper that involves evaluating young adult literary
> awards and the impact these awards have on how responsive readers are to
> these award-winning books.<snip>

Kristine,

You might want to start with an article in the Dec
1995 VOYA, "Best Books for Young Adults, Real Young Adult
Opinions of the List, the Process, and the 1995 Selections."

Do you subscribe to the YALSA-BK listserv? If so you
may have seen the extensive discussion on that listserv about
the new ALEX award (Best adult books for YA's. It was quite a
discussion which included extensive discussion of the YALSA
Best Books list, its origin, problems etc. You might want to
contact Esther Murphy at YALSA to see if there is a way
you can get a digest of this discussion.

Many states, including Washington, have a state
YA book Award contest. The contest in Washington is the
Everegreen YA book Award sponsored by the Washington Young
Adult Review Group. I have been on the Evergreen committee
for about five years and from my experience here are some of
the problems we have experienced.

Each year we decide on 10 nominated titles with a
specific publication date. The 1998 contest which ended
in March had twn nominees with 1996 publication dates.
It is advantageous if all the books are available in paperback
by the beginning of the voting period, approx. September of the
proceeding year.

With 10 titles there is always a debate over how many
should be targeted toward middle school students and how many
toward high school students. We debate and debate this question
and every year the mix is a little different. We also debate
each year how many titles such be guy-oriented and how many
girl-oriented, how much sci fic and fantasy should be on the
list etc. Nobody is ever completely happy with any particular
list. Recently we had some criticism of the list for not
having enough multicultural titles. We discussed titles
to add to this years lists, but could only find 1 (Slam!
by Walter Dean Myers) we could agree on. Then we realized
the book wouldn't be out in paperback until November, but
finally we decided to add it to the list anyway.

As is the case with Best Books, the Evergreen Committee
has made an effort to get more input from teens over the last
few years. However, this has been difficult. We have had YA
reading or advisory groups in some public libraries give us
input and we do take this very seriously. As a result, the
list is often a mix of "popular" and more "literary" titles.

If you want to know more about Evergreen you might want to
attend the Washyarg meeting on May 8 at the King County Library
System Service Center in Seattle. The Evergreen Committee
meets at 1 PM after the main meeting, or you can contact
Sally Kintner, Evergreen Chair, at the Whatcom County Library
System in Bellingham.

Tom Reynolds
YA Librarian
Edmonds Library
425/771-1933

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:57:04 1998
From: Teri Titus <titust@pls.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Chat rooms & Mr Burt's tunnel vision..



On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Filtering Facts wrote:
>
> This just happened in Ft. Smith, AK. A girl, using a library computer, was
> contacted by a child molester who met her *at the library*, took her to a
> hotel and raped her.
> Southwest Times Record, 4/17/98
> http://www.swtimes.com/site/1998/april/17/news/internet.html
>
> *****************************************************************************
> David Burt, Filtering Facts, HTTP://WWW.FILTERINGFACTS.ORG
> David_Burt@filteringfacts.org

I have just vistied the site Mr Burt so kindly provided .. and... a pretty
piece of propaganda *his* statement is.. the 14 year old young woman was
not raped.. from the article:

"Even though the fondling was consensual, the prosecutor's office charged
Cronk with carnal abuse because Cronk is older than 20 and she engaged in
deviant sexual activity with a person younger than 16, deputy prosecutor
Wendy Johnson said."

(According to the article Cronk is 26.)

Come on Mr Burt, we all know your point of view, but do you need to slant
the facts so much to make your point? 'Rape' is a very loaded word, and
no way would I equate it with consenusal fondling.
BTW, the ariticle never used the word 'rape'.

This is not to imply that caution shoudn't be used when meeting those
encountered on the 'net, or in personal ads, or wherever....but let's not
make the 'net some sort of super demon that is different from other
potential hazards; it isn't.

)
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Teri Titus, Belmont Branch Library, SMCo
1110 Alameda, Belmont, CA 94002
titust@pls.lib.ca.us
phone: 650-591-8365
fax: 650-591-1195

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:57:52 1998
From: Filtering Facts/David Burt <burt@northwest.com>
ubject: Re: Chat rooms & Mr Burt's tunnel vision..


Teri Titus wrote:

<snip>
>Come on Mr Burt, we all know your point of view, but do you need to slant
>the facts so much to make your point? 'Rape' is a very loaded word, and
>no way would I equate it with consenusal fondling.
>BTW, the ariticle never used the word 'rape'.
>

When a 26-year-old has sex with a 14-year-old, it is rape.
End of discussion.

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David Burt, President, Filtering Facts
Website: http://www.filteringfacts.org
E-Mail: David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
Phone/Fax: 503 635-7048


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 10:57:57 1998
From: laemmlee@lac.losalamos.nm.us (Elizabeth Laemmle)
Subject: unattended child policies


Hi to all,
Our Northern New Mexico Children's Librarians Round Table will be
meeting this month and discussing the problems of unattended children in
the library. We will try to formulate the perfect policy. We would be
interested in hearing from other libraries about their policies. Are they
effective? Patron comment? We are looking for basic information such as
what age a child may be left alone at the library; alone in an area while
parent is in another section; young children in the "care" of older
siblings; discipline of extremely disruptive shildren in the library; and
what other libraries do at closing when a child is not picked up. Many of
the libraries in our Round Table are single libraries in small cities, or
small almost volunteer libraries, although we do include a large city
system with many branches. We would be grateful for any information you
have to send to
Liz Laemmle laemmlee@lac.losalamos.nm.us
Mesa Public Library
Los Alamos, NM 87544
(505) 662 5522 fax (505) 662 8245

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 11:02:43 1998
From: "Nancy Haines 813,597,8171" <HAINESN@mail.firn.edu>
Subject: Reading Levels


I think reading levels are vocabulary based. Was at a local tech
conference today (Collier Co Fl) and happened to attend an exciting
presentation on a vocabulary based reading and writing program that Steck
Vaugn sells. There are all kinds of programs that test reading levels for
students. I don't know of one that judges books but I'm sure there are
many and would like to try one.
Nancy Haines
Librarian Barron Collier HS Naples Fl
Hainesn@mail.firn.edu
941-597-8171





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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 19:02:32 1998
From: Carrie Schadle <bz227@FreeNet.Buffalo.EDU>
Subject: ALSC Booth at Annual Conference


**Please excuse any cross posting**

We need your help! It is that time of year when we ask any of you ALSC
members who are attending the ALA Annual Conference (June 26-July 2 in
Washington, D.C.) if you can spare a few hours to help staff the ALSC
Booth near the Exhibit Area.

The booth will be open from 9-5 on Saturday, Sunday and Monday and from
9-3 on Tuesday. We need ALSC members there to answer any questions people
may have about ALSC--don't worry, there will be plenty of materials and
another member there to help you answer any questions. If you have never
had a chance to be involved as an ALSC member this is a great way to
start--it is a good way to meet other members from around the country and
hear about how they are involved.

If you are interested please send me an email letting me know a specific
time period during the conference that you would like to volunteer (for
example, Saturday 12-2 and Monday 3-5). Either Jane Cook or I will be
there to open and close the booth, so all you will have to do is show up.
(Please don't forget to include your name and email address as part of
your message.)

Thanks in advance for all of the help I know you guys are going to give
us. If anyone has any questions about the booth they would like answered
before committing time as a volunteer, feel free to ask.

Carrie Schadle, ALSC Membership Committee
bz227@freenet.buffalo.edu


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Carrie Schadle
Jefferson Market Regional Branch, New York Public Library
bz227@freenet.buffalo.edu
212/243-4334




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 19:02:32 1998
From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
Subject: Stumper solved--Planes for Bob & Andy


Thanks to Mary Voors, Lynn Foltz, and Grace Ruth for leading me to
Planes for Bob & Andy by Miriam Blanton Huber (NY: Macmillan, 1944,
1943). Patron is ecstatic. Thanks also to the list for providing
the service!

Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Public Library
Biddeford, ME 04005
(207)284-4181
vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 19:02:40 1998
From: Amy Shelley <AShelley@larm.lib.wy.us>
Subject: Wyoming's Indian Paintbrush Award Winner Announced


The children of Wyoming have spoken, choosing Jerry Spinelli's "Crash" as the 1998 recipient of the Indian Paintbrush Wyoming Children's Book Award. Spinelli's book was chosen from 15 possible titles that students in grades 4th through 6th selected as last year's nominees.

Amelia Shelley
ashelley@larm.lib.wy.us
Manager, Children's/Young Adult Services
Laramie County Library Sytem
Cheyenne, WY


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 19:02:32 1998
From: Susan LaFantasie <susanlaf@pcl1.pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes


Just curious. Have any of you read Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes? What do
you think? YA, J, or Adult (in your own opinion, not as cataloged).
Please respond directly to me. TIA.

Susan LaFantasie, MLS
Youth Services Librarian
susanlaf@pcl.lib.wa.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 19:03:18 1998
From: SLEE@bham.lib.al.us
Subject: Stumper


Hi PUBYAC!

I have a patron who requested that I ask "THE librarian of the world" this question. I couldn't think of a better
group to consult. She remembers reading a story (she believes it to be a fairy tale) to her children about a lion
that is in his den and all the footprints go into the den, but none come out. She does not remember the name or an
author. I have search th Index to Fairy Tales, my cooperative's catalog, and A to Zoo without any success.
Please e-mail me at slee@bham.lib.al.us.

TIA,

Sandi Lee
Children's Librarian
Birmingham Public Library

From: SLEE@bham.lib.al.us

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 19:03:26 1998
From: Vanston <jvanston@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: additions to books about books/readers list


Here are some some more suggestions for the list. (And I just wanted to
make it clear that the list was 4th grade and up, therefore some YA was
included, and so all books may not be appropriate for all ages)

Jennifer, Hectate, Macbeth, William McKinley & Me, Elizabeth by Konigsberg
Jeremy Thatcher, Dragon Hatcher by Bruce Coville
The Magic Tree House books by Mary Pope Osborne
Me And Maudie And The Dirty Book by Betty Miles
Nobody's Daughter by Susan Beth Pfeffer
The Search For Delicious by Natalie Babbitt
Seven Days To A Brand New You by Ellen Conford
Tale Of One Bad Rat by Bryan Talbot
The Time Warp Trio series by Jon Scieszka

Jen
jvanston@suffolk.lib.ny.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 19:04:50 1998
From: Sally Kintner <skintner@wln.com>
Subject: Penguin poem


Many Pubyacers heard the Penguin poem read on NPR about two weeks ago.
The reader was Daniel Pinkwater. The poem is from a book by Judy Sierra:
Antarctic Antics (BIP lists Antarctic Anthems). My patron is thrilled to
have her question answered. Thank you. Sally Kintner skintner@wln.com


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Mon May 4 19:05:56 1998
From: Kate Houston <kateho@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Surfing on the Net with Kids



Here is a listserv address as well as the web address for websites on a
theme that kids and teachers may find useful and interesting:

The archive is great, all the way back to January 1996!

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TO SUBSCRIBE: send an email to join-surfnetkids@s1.net
TO CANCEL: send an email to remove-surfnetkids@s1.net
ALL OTHER INQUIRIES: send an email to feldman@surfnetkids.com
ONLINE ARCHIVE: http://www.surfnetkids.com
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Kate Houston Voice: (503)736-6012
School Corps Librarian Pager: 202-8165
Multnomah County Library Fax: (503) 248-5441
205 NE Russell, Portland OR 97212 kateho@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us


"Don't be afraid to go out on a limb.
That's where the fruit is."
-Anonymous


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