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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:10:21 1998
From: "Lynn S. Cockett" <cockett@scils.rutgers.edu>
Subject: Re: Chat rooms & Mr Burt's tunnel vision..
sorry, this should NOT be the end of this discussion. closing off communication
about an important issue such as this is to silence people who really need to
think
about the implications -- for libraries, for children, and for parents. also, if
we were to rely on these arcane dictionary definitions, then it would seem that
if
I had sex with a 14 year old BOY, that would not be rape. so, please . . . let's
keep talking.
Ana-Elba Pavon wrote:
> According to Black's Law Dictionary, "rape" is defined as:
> Unlawful sexual intercourse with a female without her consent. The
> unlawful carnal knowledge of a woman by a man focibly and against her
> will. The act of sexual intercourse committed by a man with a woman not
> his wife and without her conset, committed when the woman's resistance is
> overcome by force or fear, or under other prohibitive conditions.
>
> Perhaps you meant "statutory rape," defined in Black's as:
> The unlawful sexual intercourse with a female under the age of consent
> which may be 16, 17 or 18 years of age, depending upon the state statute.
>
> End of discussion.
>
> Ana-Elba Pavon
> Youth Services Librarian
>
> ***************************************************************************
> * Ana-Elba Pavon *
> * Youth Services Librarian Phone: 650-355-5196 *
> * Pacifica Library Fax: 650-355-6658 *
> * 104 Hilton Way E-Mail: pavona@pls.lib.ca.us *
> * Pacifica, CA 94044 *
> ***************************************************************************
>
> On Sun, 3 May 1998, Filtering Facts/David Burt wrote:
>
> > Teri Titus wrote:
> >
> > <snip>
> > >Come on Mr Burt, we all know your point of view, but do you need
to slant
> > >the facts so much to make your point? 'Rape' is a very loaded
word, and
> > >no way would I equate it with consenusal fondling.
> > >BTW, the ariticle never used the word 'rape'.
> > >
> >
> > When a 26-year-old has sex with a 14-year-old, it is rape.
> > End of discussion.
> >
> >
*****************************************************************************
> > David Burt, President, Filtering Facts
> > Website: http://www.filteringfacts.org
> > E-Mail: David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
> > Phone/Fax: 503 635-7048
> >
> >
> >
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:14:07 1998
From: Meg Warren <mwarren@fones.cals.lib.ar.us>
Subject: re: Girl Molested after library chat
I was also intrested to see the reply, sine I was confused as to the
location of the library in the article.
AK is not the abbreviation for Arkansas, "AR" is. I am not sure, but I
think AK is Alaska. I was not aware of a "Fort Smith, Alsaka."
Meg
***********************************************************************
Meg (Walker) Warren
mwarren@fones.cals.lib.ar.us
Assistant Librarian,
Children's Programmer,
all around great gal...
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:14:19 1998
From: Maria Wegscheid <mwegsche@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: parents at YA programs
Since I just dealt with this last Saturday -- parent came and into a kite
making workshop for 6th through twelfth graders, sat down with her
daugther and actually made a kite!-- I've decided that I need to take
action. This particular instance really bothered me because it cost me
money -- not a great deal, but still...
So, first step. Talk to the teens. (This should always be the first step
in setting policies that affect teens.) So far, the reaction I've gotten
is "No, we don't want any more grown-ups in there than absolutely
necessary." This is not so much an issue of "Do you want YOUR parent
there?" as "Do you want someone else's parent there?" among my
young
people. Interestingly enough, none of the teens that I've talked to
really mind having a younger person participating in the program.
However, it specifically states in our program policy that "Library
programs are open to all." So, technically, I can't tell parents that
they cannot come in.
So, what I plan on doing is twofold:
1. Continue emphasizing that this is a program for teens. I may get more
aggressive in stating that many teens find having parents there
inhibiting.
2. Supply chairs on the sides for parents. When they ask if they can
stay, which they generally do ask first, tell them they are welcome to sit
on the sidelines and observe.
I've actually had pretty good luck with non-permission "this is a program
for teens, and some may not feel comfortable with adults present, but, of
course, you're welcome to stay if you feel it's necessary..." That sort of
thing. That works VERY well for me in discouraging younger participants.
"This program will be conducted at a middle and high school level, but if
you want your third grader to come..."
One last note: I do limit some programs in terms of size, and will only
let youngsters and oldsters in if there is room. But I rarely, if ever,
have to turn people away because of that.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maria J. Wegscheid
Bettendorf (IA) Public Library
mwegsche@libby.rbls.lib.il.us
Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of the
Bettendorf Public Library.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:14:41 1998
From: "Carol L. Hranko" <hrankoca@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Library mascot
I recently joined the listserv and enjoy all the ideas, suggestions and
help posted. Therefore, HELP!
I manage a small branch library. In the past we have rented costumes
(such as Clifford, Jesse Bear) for special programs and parades. I have
decided to try and come up with some type of mascot, probably an animal,
and to make a costume. I thought this would (1) save money renting
costumes, (2) make the library more recognizable with the mascot (ie. when
you see Ronald McDonald, you know its McDonald's!).
I am interested in hearing from other libraries who have a mascot or some
type of identifing symbol (logo, icon, puppet??): how did you decide what
to use, how did you "name" it, etc.
Reply to pubyac, or me personally:
Carol Hranko
Shadyside Public Library
4300 Central Ave.
Shadyside, OH 43947
fax: 740-676-0123
Thanks in advance!!
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:14:55 1998
From: Esther Rickelton <esthrick@kcls.org>
Subject: RE: Mission Statements
King County Library System's mission statement is under General Information at
kcls.org
Good luck.
Esther Rickelton
Associate Director for Public Services
King County Library System
206 296-5290 FAX 253 850 9872
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:16:52 1998
From: Becky Tatar <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
ubject: Re: CD-ROM check-outs
At 12:09 PM 5/4/98 -0500, you wrote:
> My questions are: Do
>any libraries currently check-out computer CD's? What are the pros and cons
>of doing so?
At our library, we do circulate CD-ROMs. However, because some staff felt
concern about juveniles checking out such expensive materials without
parental knowledge, users must have an adult card to check out -9th grade
and above. Since we have been circulating these for only a couple of years,
and our collection is fairly small, I don't think we have had a lot of loss.
Strangely enough, it is the collection in our children's services department
where the circ is going like gangbusters. At our one branch, which is in a
fairly affluent area, and many people have computers, the circ is on the
slow steady side, similar to our adult services circulation. We don't buy
games as such, going more for educational games, like the Carmen Sandeigo
series, or the Davidson titles, home use, utility type tites, desktop, etc.
Our patrons like them, and so far, we have not experienced anything negative
in connection with CD-ROMs, other than people wanting us to get integrated
programs, such as Microsoft Office, Lotus Suite, etc. These programs are
out of our price range, and we tell patrons that usually people want these
items permanently on their computers. As far as outright theft, these are
all shelved next to the circulation desk in all locations, so theft is
either very low, or non-existant.
Hope this helps, and good luck!
-----------------------------------
Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals/Audio-Visual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL 60505
Phone: 630/264-4100, x4116
FAX: 630/896-3209
e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
Opinions are my own.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:17:39 1998
From: Latricia Batchelor <misstalen@rocketmail.com>
ubject: Re: CD-ROM check-outs
Ann -
Our library recently started loaning CD-Roms. We started
with 9 and are upto 20-25 now I believe. We have tried to
keep these to educational and research type CD's in hopes
that it would limit theft and keep our cost down a bit.
Since we have had them such a short time I can't give you
any statistics really. We have not lost any that I know
of yet and they have been going out for almost 3 months
now.
Our biggest problem was finding a way to package them.
Our Audio/Video Collection cataloger finally came up with
a hanging bag. She cut the boxes up so that the
infromation on what a coimputer needed to use the CD was
able to be included in the hanging clear bag, with the
CD-Rom and any instruction books that came with it. Then
on the pocket outside each piece of the set and the price
of the CD-Rom was listed along with a note that the patron
would be charged the whole price if any one of the pieces
was missing or damaged. At circulation our staff was
asked to open the bags and check the contents...including
opening the jewel cases to be sure the CD's were in them.
A sticker warning patrons not to put the Cd-Rom in the
book drop was on the pocket as well and in our policy it
is stated that anything returned in the book drop with
that sticker and damaged would be the card holder's
responsibility.
The loan period is one week and the fine is $1.00/day
which is the same as our video collection. The max fine
is $5.00, but charge for lost/missing pieces is the cost
of the CD-Rom. We have had only one complaint and that
was about the fact that we limited the CD-Roms to
residents of our town and will not inter-library loan
them. The positive comments have been many, however. The
kid's CD-Roms, which was basic math and reading skills,
are as popular as the adult reference type CD-roms and the
SAT prep CD-Rom is especially popular atm.
===
Latricia Batchelor I do not read to think.
Tenafly Public Library I do not read to learn.
MissTalen@Rocketmail.com I do not read to search
201/287-0627 (home) for the truth,
201/568-8680 I know the truth.
The truth is hardly what I need.
I read to DREAM. (from
"Passion")
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:18:02 1998
From: Susan Smith <ssmith@connect.bedlib.org>
Subject: Pumpernickel
There is a performance group (comedy) that goes by the name of
Pumpernickel in Indiana.
I know that they have performed in southern Indiana, but have not been
able
to obtain any information about this group. If anyone has contact,
fee, review or any other
information about them please let me know. Thank you for your time.
--
Susan S. Smith
Children & Young Adult Services Librarian
Bedford Public Library
1323 K Street
Bedford, IN 47421
812-279-4824 Voice 304
812-277-1145 Fax
ssmith@bedlib.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:18:30 1998
From: Sarah Hudson <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>
Subject: RE: Chat rooms
Hey, I didn't know I was being quoted!
Since the topic of chat rooms seems to invoke emotion to
the list, I've been deleting Chat Room posts. But I'll
comment again, since I've been quoted.
I saw a special on A & E about a detective who tracks
down internet child pornographers who set
up meetings with children and YA's. I think A & E is now
the true crime and Mafia channel, not Arts & Entertainment.
But I digress.
Anyway Child Pornography on the net is a concern.
We had a situation here, and I hope I'm not breaking
confidentiality, where a teen had run away from home.
A detective came to talk to us because he knew from the
parents that the teen used the internet here. The
detective was concerned that the teen had arranged to meet
someone through email or a chat room, (which we don't
usually permit chat.)
The teen was found safe. But current events ran
through our minds, particularly news stories about
young boys who had met with adult males through the
internet.
Teens and adults like chat. There's no denying that.
I follow the lead of my
institution, which is to permit chat only for research
purposes.The only problem I've had with
chatters is discipline, noise, and foul language. I have
nothing against chat per se, but I think everyone using
the net needs to be conerned about safety.
But how on earth could we go around and see what
people are typing and reading on a chat line? That
goes against privacy rules. Parent's need to be aware
of what their teens are doing. I think I'll try and track
down the post from Filtering Facts and see what's up.
Bye,
Sarah
Sarah Hudson
Information Specialist
Independence Regional Library
Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County
shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us
opinions are my own and do not reflect those of the library
I suggest everyone go to the site given by Mr. Burt in his response to Ms.
Hudson's concerns about Internet misuse by adults which involves libraries'
younger patrons. We need to investigate allegations before assuming the
truth behind the claims--a basic tenet of scholarship and good service.
While Ms. Hudson's concern is a valid one, Mr. Burt's response misrepresents
the circumstances surrounding this particular case, and merely adds fuel to
a growing fire.
Cathy Wilterding
English Instructor and MLS student
At 07:49 AM 4/30/98 -0700, you wrote:
>Sarah Hudson wrote:
>
>>The thing that worries me are the recent cases involving
>>child molestors and child pornographers luring children
>>to meet them in person through an introduction in a
>>chat room. I'd hate for someone to connect like that through
>>the library. I don't know how we would prevent that, though.
>>
>
>This just happened in Ft. Smith, AK. A girl, using a library computer, was
>contacted by a child molester who met her *at the library*, took her to a
>hotel and raped her.
>Southwest Times Record, 4/17/98
>http://www.swtimes.com/site/1998/april/17/news/internet.html
>
>*****************************************************************************
>David Burt, Filtering Facts, HTTP://WWW.FILTERINGFACTS.ORG
>David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
>
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:18:30 1998
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: Re: Chat rooms
PU>I suggest everyone go to the site given by Mr. Burt in his response to Ms.
PU>Hudson's concerns about Internet misuse by adults which involves
libraries'
PU>younger patrons. We need to investigate allegations before assuming the
PU>truth behind the claims--a basic tenet of scholarship and good service.
Amen! One suspects that a wiser man than Mr. Burt would not harm his
own cause by so clearly destroying his own credibility. The next time
he raises some sort of similar alarm he could be be absolutely correct
in terms of his facts but the assumption will now be that he is almost
as reliable as a $2 pistol because of the way he slanted this
recounting. It's hard to work up Major amounts of sympathy for a "young
adult" who misrepresents her age in order to persuade an adult to become
involved with her, if this is indeed the more accurate version of the
event.
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:19:20 1998
From: "Bridgett Johnson" <bridgett@lewis-carnegie-library.org>
Subject: Speakers for C & YA programs
Have you heard any TERRIFIC children's and/or young adult programming
speakers? The Montana Library Association and the Mountain Plains
Library Association is doing a joint conference in June of 1999 here
in Montana (Big Sky near Bozeman). Our Children's & YA Interest
group is charged with suggesting some good programs ( C & YA type)
for the conference. We have a few suggestions already but would
welcome hearing from you. Since this is a big conference for us we
would love to have some suggestions from this crew. Please reply
directly to me at bridgett@lewis-carnegie-library.org Thank you
very much.
Bridgett Johnson,Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library, 701 W. Main, Lewistown, Montana 59457
(406) 538 - 8559 bridgett@lewis-carnegie-lib.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:19:49 1998
From: Filtering Facts/David Burt <burt@northwest.com>
ubject: re: Girl Molested after library chat
Susan Hawk wrote:
>CROSS POSTED TO PUBLIB AND PUBYAC
>
>On Thu, 30 Apr 1998, Filtering Facts wrote:
>
>>
>> This just happened in Ft. Smith, AK. A girl, using a library computer,
was
>> contacted by a child molester who met her *at the library*, took her to
a
>> hotel and raped her.
>> Southwest Times Record, 4/17/98
>> http://www.swtimes.com/site/1998/april/17/news/internet.html
>
>(snip)
>
>
>I find it interesting to note that David Burt's original post to PUBLIB
>only quoted the newspaper article when it disparaged public libraries. He
>conveniently edited out the portion (to follow) which discussed the
>library's Internet policies.
I only posted the first few lines of the story because that has become the
standard practice on library-related lists. Because of copyright issues,
many lists, including PUBLIB, won't post the full text of an article unless
a "re-printed with permission" statement is included. I gave the URL
so
that readers could follow "the rest of the story" if they wanted to.
>
>Also, please note Mr. Burt's misuse of the word "raped" where he
should
>have said "sexually abused." While Merriam Webster's Collegiate
Dictionary,
>10th ed., *does* include a definition of rape to be "other than by a
man
>with a woman," this is not generally the accepted legal definition. The
>act in question was consensual, albeit involving a minor. Mr. Burt chooses
>to use the more eye-catching buzz-word.
Please note that "rape" is a word often used to describe any sex
between
adults and minors. In fact, in many states, that's exactly what it's called
by law.
BTW, for those of you who think I'm just being sensational reporting this,
please note that Library Journal also reported this at www.ljdigital.com
*****************************************************************************
David Burt, President, Filtering Facts
Website: http://www.filteringfacts.org
E-Mail: David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
Phone/Fax: 503 635-7048
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:27:44 1998
From: owner-pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: Mystery thanks!
I just read Jan Burke's "Liar". I am so glad I read the
"credits" at
films and acknowledgements in books! I lent the book to my co-worker,
and need to get Burke's E mail address from the jacket to thank her, but
I wanted to alert PUBYAC> Not only does she use CR librarians and PUBYAC
in the plot- she *gets it right*, which means whatever input we were able
to give was well-used. You could have knocked me over with a feather
when I saw my name, and those of other cyber- acquaintances in the back
of the book ! (Adult mystery title BTW)
Anne
Andy or Anne Paradise aparadise@juno.com
Gary Public Library andrew@gary.lib.in.us
Gary IN
anne@gary.lib.in.us
[Moderator's note: Jan Burke was kind enough to ask if she could use
PUBYAC in her next book, and told me that it would be in a positive way.
I'm glad to see she indeed *got it right.* --Shannon]
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:28:08 1998
From: Laurel Sharp <lsharp@mailbox.lpl.org>
ubject: Re: CD-ROM check-outs
Liverpool Public Library has circulated CDRoms since about 1994. We also
have reference computers with games for preschoolers and primary grade
children. We double-shelve anything that costs over $50. Our damage rate
is low; the theft rate is (I think) about what it is for other formats. I
especially like the Living Books from Broderbund but heard that they may
not be selling to libraries any more. I'll look into it.
Laurel Sharp
Liverpool, NY
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:28:35 1998
From: druthgo@sonic.net (Dr. Ruth I. Gordon)
ubject: An interesting paragraph
In today's "San Francisco Chronicle," (5 May, p. A 15) the following
paragraph appears from an AP article titled: "L.A.Schools See Increase in
Fighting": "His mother [of the student who was beaten by other
students],
Janet Keller, claims two teachers witnessed the fight but didn't stop it.
Witnesses said it took the SCHOOL LIBRARIAN [emphasis mine] to help
Tristan, who suffered a concussion and fractured hand." Name of school
John Burroughs, and the student, Tristan Keller, is in 7th grade.. Maybe
there's a way someone can find out the name of the librarian. The school
is in the Los Angeles Unified School District
>
>America the Beautiful.
Soon people will say that what was once known as LIBRARY education should
include fisticuffs and feints and Marquise of Queensbury rules. And why
not, I asseverate?
Big Grandma
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"You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass
the guilty." Jessica Mitford (1917-1996)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:28:45 1998
From: Sally Warburton <swarburt@vsla.edu>
Subject: Adult SRP
Hello all!
We would like to do an adult program along with our Summer
Reading Program for the preschoolers, elementary, and young
adults. Has anyone out there already done one? If you have had
a successful adult program please let me know. (Or if it wasn't
so successful tell me what NOT to do) Thanks a bunch!
Sally
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:31:23 1998
From: Bree Owens <bree@showme.net>
ubject: re: Girl Molested after library chat
I apologize for being a few days behind on the list, but I was just catching
up and I read the comments on the little girl being Molested, raped,
fondeled, etc. I must say that I am a upset at the way this discussion is
going. Have we all lost sight of what really happened? Who cares how we
define rape!! This is a child and we all seem to care more about a
definition than the situation. I agree that the library can not be
responsible for these children, but we can pay attention to what our patrons
are doing. I work in the children's department of our library and I know
that I personally take an interest in the children who come in here. I am
not judging the staff of the particular library, but I am saying that I
think we all need to pay a little more attention to our patrons, especially
the youth that use or libraries.
As for the definition of rape, that is not an issue here. The real issue is
what happened to the child, not a definition. What was stated about Mr.
Burt using a more eye-catching buzz word was rediculous. In my opinion rape
and sexually molested are both as dramatic and eye-catching. Besides the
wording, who really cares. Think about the child not our words. I am
disappointed that this discussion went this way on the list.
Bree Owens
Youth Services
Cape Girardeau Public Library
Cape Girardeau, MO 63701
(573) 334-5279
bree@showme.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:31:28 1998
From: Cheryl Marx <cmarx@scls.lib.wi.us>
ubject: Re: new name for children's dept.
At 01:00 PM 5/4/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Our children's department just moved into a newly enlarged department
>which includes children's, young adult and parents. we're trying to come
>up with a name for the department which will include all these groups. any
>ideas from others in the same situation? thanks so much.
Perhaps you could be called "Un-Adult". Sorry bad hummor.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:59:31 1998
From: Indira Dholakia <IDholakia@lcpl.lib.va.us>
Subject: Ideas for visiting school assemblies etc. to promote summer library
I will be visiting elementary schools in the area to promote summer
library program- Theme is "Cyber Cruise With Books". We are looking
for
some terrific ideas/samples of
skits or Cheers/poetry etc to perform in front of assesmblies and also
taped on video for
projection in classes. Please send any thoughts, ideas etc to my e-mail
address.
Thanks Thanks-Indira
IDholakia@lcpl.lib.va.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:59:44 1998
From: ckindt@usa.net
Subject: song stumper
Does anyone remember a song about Wilemina Wobble who balances while jumping
rope in bed? One of our librarians used to have it and cannot remember where she
found it. Any suggestions? Please respind directly to me. Thanks.
Clare Kindt
Brown County Library
Green Bay, WI
ckindt@usa.net
____________________________________________________________________
Get free e-mail and a permanent address at http://www.netaddress.com/?N=1
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 21:59:57 1998
From: "Pam Minarik" <pminarik@nslsilus.org>
Subject: Stumpers-Lost/Hidden City
I am looking for a story for a patron that she says she checked out at my
library some years ago. The story is a chapter from a book or a story from
a collection. The story is about a man who sails from his village one day
and finds a hidden or lost city. The city is a wonderful place and he
loves it very much. He is told that he may return to his own village only
if he doesn't tell anyone about this secret city. He promises and returns
but of course wants to share this secret and tells everyone he knows. The
patron believes that the book was illustrated by a Chinese or Japanese
illustrator.
I have looked via keyword at any combination of words in our own catalog
along with checking our folktale section, as much as possible. I have also
looked at all of our Lawrence Yep and Ed Young holdings, it's possible that
we no longer own the book. The closest thng I have been able to find is
Peach Blossom Spring by Fergus Bordewich, an individual Chinese folklore
title.
Please e-mail me with any info you might have Thank you!
<pminarik@nslsilus.org>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 22:47:11 1998
From: Susan LaFantasie <susanlaf@pcl1.pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Roald Dahl's Revolting Rhymes
Seven votes for J, two votes for YA. Thanks, everybody!
susanlaf@pcl.lib.wa.us
Susan LaFantasie, MLS
Youth Services Librarian
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed May 6 23:37:06 1998
From: Claudia Livolsi <clivolsi@www.biblio.org>
ubject: Re: CD-ROM check-outs
We currently have 36 CD Roms, all of which circulate. They are constantly
out and we have had no complaints about the CD roms not working, nor have we
had any thefts. We circulate them for one week and charge $2.00 per day in
overdue fines. The CD roms have been in our collection for about one year.
Claudia Livolsi
Children's Librarian
Monroe Public Library
Monroe, CT
clivolsi@biblio.org
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