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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:21:45 1998
From: jwall@norby.latah.lib.id.us (Jan Wall)
ubject: Daycare outreach policies


For those of you who do outreach to daycares, do you have specific policies?
How do you decide who/who not to serve (i.e. present programs, etc.) Do you
go to them or do they come to the library? Who does the outreach and how is
it structured?

Our YS department is a one person operation with some extra hours available.
We've had a pretty flexible arrangement in the past, but are beginning to be
asked to do more daycares and preschools. Limited time dictates that we be
somewhat selective in the groups that we do outreach to, unfortunately.

TIA for your input!

Jan Wall
Youth Services
Latah County Library
Moscow ID 83843
jwall@norby.latah.lib.id.us
Potlatch Public Library
P.O. Box 335
Potlatch Idaho 83855
Phone and Fax: 208-875-1036
Email: jwall@norby.latah.lib.id.us


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:21:45 1998
From: "Alison Hendon" <ahendon@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: children's library cards


Brooklyn Public Library has children's cards, young adult cards, and adult cards. The
children's cards are restricted to children's material if so specified by the parent or
guardian signing the application. If they don't restrict the card, then the child is free to
use the entire collection including videos. Young adult cards (13-18) are not restricted
to any area. (This is as accurate as I can be without being at the library and checking
with one of our Office Aides).

HTH,

Alison


Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org

"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:21:45 1998
From: "Kelli Cape" <kellicape@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #320



>
>Date: Sat, 23 May 98 10:30:52 CDT
>From: Mary K Chelton <mchelton@carrollsweb.com>
>Subject: attracting teens/Bedford PL
>
>Wilson Thomas posted:
>
>>Hello, I'm doing promotianal work for the young adult section at the
>>Bedford Public Library
>>and am looking for ideas on attracting teens. I am putting together a
>>survey and I would
>>appreciate any ideas for questions. Also I wouldn't mind input on how
to
>>attract teens.
>>thanks.
>
>Wilson, could you tell us whether you are a librarian or not? You sound
>unfamiliar with the extensive literature that exists on this topic. For
>example, the two Excellence in YA Services books from ALA, the annual
John
>Cotton Dana Award winners, and just about every issue of VOYA will give
you
>ideas on this topic. What worries me, though, is that Bedford thinks
this
>is just a PR problem. If you are successful in attracting them in the
short
>term, what is Bedord prepared to do in the long term, and is ALL OF
THEIR
>STAFF ready for an influx of teenagers?
>
>Mary K.
>
>Mary K. Chelton, PhD (+ 25 years library experience) New address:
9/1/98
>School of Library and Information Management Graduate School of
>Library &
>Emporia State University Information Studies
>1200 Commercial Queens College
>Emporia, KS 66801 254 Rosenthal
>Library
>work: (316) 341-5071 Flushing, NY 11367
>home: (316) 342-9277 work: (718) 997-3790
>(owned by Copper Creek's Spaetzlle, a Vizsla)
>
>Please note new e-mail address: mchelton@carrollsweb.com
>
>------------------------------
>
Dear Ms. PhD + 25 years:
I thought the purpose of PUBYAC was to pose questions. And, in fact, I
have seen a great deal posted by you. Even on topics which have been
covered in magazines and/or books. I think your questioning of Mr.
Thomas's credentials is inappropriate.
Furthermore, not everyone has access to the materials which you've
suggested. And, even if so, Mr. Thomas's area of specialty may not be
related to young adults and/or public relations. Besides, sometimes
people like to hear from other people, in the field, who may or may not
have had success, rather than reading another article.
If Mr. Thomas is able to attract more teens, Cassandra, then good for
him! I'm sure the whole staff will learn to cope.

That's my two-cents worth!
Kelli Phelan, MLS
Tulsa, OK
e-mail: kellicape@hotmail.com




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:21:46 1998
From: Park Ridge Public Library <cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us>
Subject: Cd-Rom Catalogs


Sylvia,

We started our Cd-Rom collection last September and it has been a great success. Edutainment is a great little magazine type catalog with lots of educational and entertaining Cd-roms at reasonable prices. Educational Resources is another good one and the Library Video Company has a nice selection of Cd-roms in addition to their videos. Edutainment is my favorite and they also have a nice website. Here's the info:

Edutainment Catalog- 1-800-338-3844 or http://www.edutainco.com

Educational Resources- 1-800-624-2926 or http://www.edresources.com

Library Video Company- 1-800-843-3620 or http://www.libraryvideo.com

Please post all the reccomendations you receive!

Charlene Witek

****Opinions Expressed Are My Own****
Charlene Witek
Children's Services Librarian
Park Ridge Public Library
20 S. Prospect
Park Ridge, IL 60068
(847) 825-4527
Fax: (847) 825-0001
Email: cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:21:45 1998
From: VASILIK@palsplus.org
Subject: RE: Southpaw Patrons and CD.ROM's


I'm a southpaw librarian and frequent computer user and I have adjusted nicely
to having the computer mouse on the right side of the computer and can use
the right mouse button just a well as the left. Users who find it a real
problem can probably just move the mouse to the other side of the keyboard -
the cord is usually long enough and then they only have to cope with a
right button configuration. Most left-handed people learn to adapt to
lots of other things - I really think this one is minor, especially for a
public access computer in the library.

Of course, I also managed to adapt to all those right handed desks
in college as well - and I almost never use a left handed scissors or a
left handed can opener. Maybe I'm just a good adapter!

Did you know that a higher percentage of geniuses are left-handed??

Pat Vasilik
Children's Coordinator
Clifton Public Library, Clifton, NJ
vasilik@palsplus.org

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:21:49 1998
From: Ana Bartlett <abartlet@connect.bedlib.org>
Subject: Re: attracting teens/Bedford PL




On Sat, 23 May 1998, Mary K Chelton wrote:

> Wilson Thomas posted:
>
> >Hello, I'm doing promotianal work for the young adult section at the
> >Bedford Public Library
> >and am looking for ideas on attracting teens. I am putting together a
> >survey and I would
> >appreciate any ideas for questions. Also I wouldn't mind input on how to
> >attract teens.
> >thanks.
>
> Wilson, could you tell us whether you are a librarian or not? You sound
> unfamiliar with the extensive literature that exists on this topic. For
> example, the two Excellence in YA Services books from ALA, the annual John
> Cotton Dana Award winners, and just about every issue of VOYA will give you
> ideas on this topic. What worries me, though, is that Bedford thinks this
> is just a PR problem. If you are successful in attracting them in the short
> term, what is Bedord prepared to do in the long term, and is ALL OF THEIR
> STAFF ready for an influx of teenagers?
>
> Mary K.
>
> Mary K. Chelton, PhD (+ 25 years library experience) New address: 9/1/98
> School of Library and Information Management Graduate School of
> Library &
> Emporia State University Information Studies
> 1200 Commercial Queens College
> Emporia, KS 66801 254 Rosenthal
> Library
> work: (316) 341-5071 Flushing, NY 11367
> home: (316) 342-9277 work: (718) 997-3790
> (owned by Copper Creek's Spaetzlle, a Vizsla)
>
> Please note new e-mail address: mchelton@carrollsweb.com
>
i had originally intended to reply to w. thomas because i too work at a
bedford(not bedord)library and work with young adults-thought it would be
interesting to exchange some ideas. as i was working my way through the
rest of the new mail which i usually enjoy, i was quite disappointed by
the rude response from the above person. i have not been involved with
the library that long, however, i don't believe that 25+ years gives you
"license" to be rude.

good luck with your inquiry w. thomas and please let me know if you
receive some good suggestions-i'm sure you will because there are alot of
people on this list with very positive and polite responses.

ana bartlett
abartlet@bedlib.org
1323 K St.
Bedford, IN 47421


> > > >


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:22:03 1998
From: gwiseman <gwiseman@mail.ci.waco.tx.us>
Subject: Re: Security Signals?


Hi Rae,
I think this is a major issue:

> We have been considering having some sort of "code signal" in case of
> emergency, which
> one staff member could say or phone to another to get outside help (i.e.
> call 911) without
> alerting the patrons.
Our library is also fairly small and we have talked about it several
times. We decided to go with a fairly low-key phrase that plays on our
local situation: we have a police officer who patrols the local area on
a "scooter" (it is more like a golf cart!). His name is Bob. Therefore,
when we need help, we can just say "Somebody call Scooter Bob."
It sounds harmless, but nobody can mistake what is meant.

I think that every library needs to have a subtle emergency call that
all staff can use. And make sure that your new employee(s) get told!!

Gillian Wiseman

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:22:04 1998
From: Pealib@aol.com
Subject: Re: Southpaw Patrons and CD.ROM's


Speaking as a person who is left-handed, I long ago learned to use the mouse
with my right hand. Many lefties have done the same. Let them adapt would be
my best advice, or simply pull the mouse around to the other side of the
Keyboard when a leftie requests it.

Erin Gallagher
Head of Youth Services
Peabody Library
Peabody, MA

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:22:06 1998
From: Bob & Elsa Pendleton <comoe@ridgecrest.ca.us>
Subject: Re: CDROM Rec's - S. Jacquard, 5/23


Have you seen the Interfact CDs, published by Interfact (I thought
allied with World Book, now apparently distributed by somebody like
Random House). All last year, we used Vikings, Solar system, Egyptians,
Rain Forest, Oceans and Electricity with middle school and upper
elementary school kids who just loved them to death. In fact, before
we were able to purchase the real thing, they kept the demo disk in
constant use! The price is right, they are beautifully adaptable to both
Wintel and Mac computers, and they have just the right combination of
puzzles and info. Each disk has a book, in which the child can find the
correct information to save a cartoon hero, or solve a code, or do
something similar.

Another disk enormously popular with our youngsters (this is a Navy
general library and most of the children are in military families) is
the Discovery Channel CD "Carrier" although you'd better have
earphones--the most popular part is trying to land an F/A-18 on a
carrier deck and the sound is VERRRRRRRy monotonous.

The Grolier and World Book Encyclopedias are also used extensively for
browsing and learning to navigate with the mouse.

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:22:08 1998
From: Rjohc@aol.com
Subject: Re: clarification


When I took Collection Development in 1993 from Professor Jim Sweetland at
UWM, he defined a trade PB as something sold through bookstores and generally
an octavo text.
In "Building Library Collections" by Curley and Broderick it states on page190
that "Trade bibliography is one part of national bibliography, but of more
restricted scope. It attempts to record those materials which are available
through the regular trade channels. Most large encyclopedias and government
publications, for example, are not ordinarily sold through bookstores--they
are "outside the trade."
Hope this helps.

Due to transfer, still an MLS student.

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:22:12 1998
From: Sandy Farmer <sfarmer@hpl.lib.tx.us>
ubject: Re: Southpaw Patrons and CD.ROM's


Our keyboards have touchpads. We don't have to clean mice, they don't get
stolen, and they are just to the right of the center of the keyboard and
left handed patrons don't seem to have a problem.

Sandy

Name: Sandy Farmer
E-mail: Sandy Farmer <sfarmer@hpl.lib.tx.us>
Houston Public Library
Date: 05/28/98
Time: 12:51:25

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:22:20 1998
From: "Martha Link -- Children's Outreach" <MARTHA@louisville.lib.ky.us>
Subject: questions about fines



I need some factual information about what other Library systems about the
size of the Louisville Free Public Library (yearly circulation of just over
three million, 18 branches plus Main, metro area population of one million)
do with fines, fees, and collection agency use.

Do you charge fines? Adults and children? Amount per day?

Do you give any grace period or amnesty days?

Do you use a collection agency?

At what point are patrons reported to the collection agency?

Do you charge an automatic fee when a patron is sent to collections?

Is there any data about your system that shows that fines do or don't get your
books back faster and/or more effeciently?

If you do not charge fines how do you encourage patrons to bring back their
books promptly?

THANKS for any help you can give me.

Tracy Sublett Thomas
Louisville Free Public Library
301 York St.
Louisville KY 40203
tracy@louisville.lib.ky.us
(502) 574-1741

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:22:36 1998
From: Tracey Dittoe <tlovedittoe@yahoo.com>
ubject: South Park episode





Hi all!

Did anyone see last night's episode of the cartoon South Park (it's on
Comedy Central)? It was all about how "lame" and "stupid" reading is.
How timely, I thought, since youth librarians all over the country
are getting ready to bust their you-know-whats trying to ATTRACT kids
to library reading programs! I couldn't help but laugh at the show,
"chicken lover" and all--however, I sincerely hope that all the
impressionable kids and teens out there were NOT watching Comedy
Central! (hahaha!)

Tracey Dittoe
Eagle Creek Branch Library
Lexington, KY

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 16:25:17 1998
From: Kate Mills <kmills@bal.alibrary.com>
Subject: Southpaw Patrons


Morag/All:

On our patron LAN, we cannot get to the control panel to change the mouse
configuration, so we have one patron who just moves the mouse to the left
side of the keyboard and uses her middle finger on the left mouse button.
This seems to work fine for her.

On an individual station, I suppose patrons could figure it out and change
it anyway. If they are going to change it, maybe a set of instructions
would help. We are fortunate to have teen volunteers in our computer room
that could help with this kind of situation.

It would be nice if one could have a dedicated terminal for left-handers
(being one myself, although I have taught myself to mouse right-handed).

Kate Mills
Barrington Area Library
505 N. Northwest Hwy
Barrington, IL 60010

Opinions expressed are my own.




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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 17:39:33 1998
From: Claudia Livolsi <clivolsi@www.biblio.org>
ubject: Re: where are the big books?


Ingram has a fax service which lists new paperback books and always includes
a rather lengthy section devoted entirely to Big Books. I would imagine you
could call them and ask to be added to their list for this service.
Claudia Livolsi
Children's Librarian
Monroe Public Library
Monroe, CT
clivolsi@biblio.org


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 19:56:29 1998
From: cathy ryne <cryne@sierramadre.lib.ca.us>
ubject: dog stumper


I have a patron who read this book in the 70's and can't remember the name
of it. I looked in A to Zoo, Children's catalog, bookfinder and cannot find
it. Maybe you wonderful people can help. The book is about a dog who
watches over, she thinks a pound or someplace that animals are kept, and
makes them feel comfortable - eases their fears. She thinks that it has a
sad ending. Could be called The Visitor (or something with "visitor" in
the title)

Thank you for your help!

Cathy Ryne
Sierra Madre Library


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 19:56:32 1998
From: Lyn Persson <lpersson@nslsilus.org>
ubject: stumper


Hello --

The patron didn't give us much to go on, but I'm posting on the remote
chance that someone can come up with a title that matches this information:

short-ish chapter book that's been around since at least the mid-70's.
Main character is a fairy-type of flying creature whose name might be
Annabelle (or might simply begin with the letter A).

Please contact me if this rings a bell with you.

Thanks --

Lyn Persson, Wilmette Public Library, lpersson@nslsilus.org
(847) 256-6940

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 19:56:37 1998
From: EN_ELEANOR@4cty.org
Subject: Stumper re imaginary animal


Thanks to all who responded to my stumper regarding the imaginary
pet. The title is indeed ANIMAL by Lorna Balian, Abingdon Press, 1972.
We have one very happy patron. Much appreciated.
Eleanor Henricks
George F. Johnson Library
Endicott, NY

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 19:56:44 1998
From: Schmidt <mschmidt@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: stumper




Dear collective brain,

My patron is seeking a book she remembers a teacher using featuring a fox
(?) that told the story in/as a metaphor(s), probably a picture book for
4th grade?!? Any ideas, TIA. Respond directly.

Mary Schmidt
West Babylon Public Library
West Babylon, New York



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 19:56:46 1998
From: Park Ridge Public Library <cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us>
Subject: Magic Mirror Stumper


Dear Pubyacers,

Thank you for all of your suggestions for this stumper. Some thought it might be "The Lion, the Witch, and the Wardrobe" but the patron didn't think so. What we came up with was one of two books: "The Magic Mirror" by William Gilbert or "The Magic Mirror" by Elsie Singmaster. There are also a few books of collected works that feature a story by the same name. These were found in "Fiction, Folklore, Fantasy & Poetry for Children, 1876-1985". It looks like both are out of print so we are still not sure if this is the story, but the patron thought she could look in rare and used book stores to find a copy now that she has more info. Thank you all for all of your help!

Charlene Witek

****Opinions Expressed Are My Own****
Charlene Witek
Children's Services Librarian
Park Ridge Public Library
20 S. Prospect
Park Ridge, IL 60068
(847) 825-4527
Fax: (847) 825-0001
Email: cwitek@park-ridge.lib.il.us



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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 19:56:59 1998
From: rdukelow@colosys.net (Rosemary Dukelow)
ubject: stumper: dog biscuits


Does anyone out there have a recipe for dog biscuits?

Thanks so much for your help!
Respond directly to me, Rosemary
rdukelow@colosys.net


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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 19:56:39 1998
From: Charlotte Lesser <clesser@keene.edu>
Subject: stumper solved - witch in tree


Thanks to all the collective book knowledge of PUBYAC I have a happy
patron. The book in question (little witch in tree rescued by girl) is
Florence Laughlin's THE LITTLE
LEFTOVER WITCH, Macmillan, 1960.

By the way - the patron is actually an "ex-patron" who now lives 2000
miles away and who called long distance! trying to find her childhood
favorite which she read at this library many years ago!

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Charlotte Lesser Phone (603) 352-0157
Head of Youth & Community Services Fax (603) 352-1101
Keene Public Library email clesser@keene.edu
60 Winter St.
Keene NH 03431

Check out the Youth Dept. Home page on the World Wide Web at:
http://www.ci.keene.nh.us/library/jyouth.htm

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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu May 28 19:57:28 1998
From: Schmidt <mschmidt@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: stumper



Dear collective brain,

My patron is seeking a book she remembers a teacher using featuring a fox
(?) that told the story in/as a metaphor(s), probably a picture book for
4th grade?!? Any ideas, TIA. Respond directly.

Mary Schmidt
West Babylon Public Library
West Babylon, New York


From: Schmidt <mschmidt@suffolk.lib.ny.us>

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