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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:41 1998
From: Esther Rickelton <esthrick@kcls.org>
Subject: RE: Parental access to minors' records
Linda Hodgins asked about parental access to teeagers' borrowing =
records.
King County Library System, Washington has a similar legal opinion. It
seems to hinge on the fact that parents are responsible for their =
children's financial obligations until they are 18. If we hold the =
parents responsible for the books/materials which their children have =
lost or failed to return, we must give parents access to the records. =
In practice, unless we are dealing with a charge, parents almost never =
ask to see what their children have out.
The exception is for very young children. Their parents want to know =
what
needs to be brought back. Since the parents checked the materials out on =
the child's card in the first place, privacy is a moot point.
Esther Rickelton
Associate Director for Public Services
King County Library System
206 296-5290 FAX 253 850 9872
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:44 1998
From: aparadise@juno.com
Subject: Re: "furry tails"
I have done a lot of costuming, and I would suggest buying yard goods of
fur or animal print fabric and just making long casings and turniing
them inside out and stuffing with a pencil or yardstick. Make small
balls for rabbits or bears, braided yarn for donkeys, if kids are old
enough not to be hurt by wire, you could try a corkscrew- shaped wire
insert for a pig- or skip it! Large safety pins would be easiest to
attach them with- day cares use them for nametags, so it should be safe.
Good luck,
Anne
Andy or Anne Paradise aparadise@juno.com
Gary Public Library andrew@gary.lib.in.us
Gary IN
anne@gary.lib.in.us
paradis@jorsm.com
Doesn't everyone have 4 email addresses?
On Sat, 30 May 1998 16:43:53 -0500 (CDT) Victoria Kozich
<vkozich@amon.pub-lib.ci.fort-worth.tx.us> writes:
>Hello all. I am in need of some suggestions. We at the FWPL are
>having a
>party for our Reading club in July and we need to make approximately
>600
>"tails" for the kids to wear. I am in charge of making these tails
>and
>am completely baffled on how to make them in a cost-efficient and safe
>
>way in that large of number. I would appreciate any ideas on how to
>make
>a tail, and how to do it cheaply. I have about 2 months to make 600
>of
>these things, but figure I'll need the time:) Thanks in advance and
>reply to me directly at: vkozich@amon.pub-lib.ci.fort-worth.tx.us
>
>Thanks and wish me luck
>
>
>-Victoria Kozich
>
> **********************************************************
> * Views represented are strictly personal and *DO NOT* *
> * represent those of the Fort Worth Public Library. *
> **********************************************************
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:29 1998
From: Anne Leon <sweetie@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: attracting teens/Bedford PL
I know I've said this before, but it has worked for me: one thing you can
do to turn around staff opinions of YA's is to recruit and train a few
good teen volunteers. They can shelve, file, stamp cards, etc in Circ as
well as do crafts and technical support to computer newbies--just to name
a few tasks. It's kind a of hard to dislike a whole group of people once
you get to interact closely with them on a regular basis--whoops, does
that sound like good advice for all of us, or what? :)
that's my story and i'm stickin' to it
Anne Leon
North Regional/BCC Library
Coconut Creek, FL (Broward County)
sweetie@bc.seflin.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:29 1998
From: Walter Minkel <walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Multnomah County Library Summer Reading site up
Folks-- If you're interested, take a look at Multnomah County Library's
new "kids.read@libraries" summer reading site at
http://www.multnomah.lib.or.us/lib/summer/
We're experimenting with letting kids & teens register online (so far,
since yesterday, six "real" signups & three jokesters), an
Internet
Scavenger Hunt (one question weekly--kids _must_ answer it using our
Homework Center), coloring sheets, booklists with scanned covers, and a
"Weird and Goofy Website Contest." Take a look, and we'd appreciate
your
comments. --W
P.S. "kids.read@libraries" is the statewide theme for OR this year.
Walter Minkel, School Corps Technology Trainer
Multnomah County Library, 205 NE Russell St., Portland, OR 97212
Voice (503)736-6002; fax (503)248-5441; walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us
==============
("Rats...") "Oh, Web pupil, _refer_! Lip up! Be who? Star!"
--Palindrome
of the Month
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:29 1998
From: "Carrie Eldridge" <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>
Subject: just give your opinion
I would like your opionion on a situation. Most Libraries
buy the bulk of their books from a large book distributer like Baker &
Taylor or Ingram from whom we get a large (usually 40% discount). In what
situations would you buy direct? In those cases you would get a smaller
discount but perhaps get some needed (small press?) items. Has anybody
ordered from DK direct or other specilized presses? For what reasons would
you do this?
Please reply to me directly
Carrie Eldridge
San Juan Island Library District
Friday Harbor, WA 98250
celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:31 1998
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: An idea for dealing with all types of patrons, not just
I have a recommendation for all librarians on the list and their
colleagues. Here in Connecticut, we just "hatched" our first teams of
trainers for "Effectice Customer Service" workshops created by Nancy
Bolin
and Ralph Gers of Transform, Inc. (They are the people behind the
Effective Reference Performance workshops that are well known and
respected.) We will go forth to lead 2 day workshops for all types of
library staff on giving really great customer service.
I know that Nancy and Ralph are doing the same type of training in many
other states as well. Check with your state library association!
I encourage you to send your staff or have your director send the staff for
these workhops.
Some of the problems that are arising with "grumpy" colleagues who are
not
behind the ideas of welcoming teens might be lessened with the patron (and
co-worker) friendly ideas in these workshops.
Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:27 1998
From: Audra <aosorio@infolink.org>
Subject: Re: "furry tails"
Hi Victoria,
How about socks? They can be filled with paper or material. To attach,
how about safety pins or tape?
Audra
Children's Librarian
South
Brunswick Public Library
Monmouth
Junction, NJ
Victoria Kozich wrote:
> Hello all. I am in need of some suggestions. We at the FWPL are having a
> party for our Reading club in July and we need to make approximately 600
> "tails" for the kids to wear. I am in charge of making these
tails and
> am completely baffled on how to make them in a cost-efficient and safe
> way in that large of number. I would appreciate any ideas on how to make
> a tail, and how to do it cheaply. I have about 2 months to make 600 of
> these things, but figure I'll need the time:) Thanks in advance and
> reply to me directly at: vkozich@amon.pub-lib.ci.fort-worth.tx.us
>
> Thanks and wish me luck
>
> -Victoria Kozich
>
> **********************************************************
> * Views represented are strictly personal and *DO NOT* *
> * represent those of the Fort Worth Public Library. *
> **********************************************************
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:28 1998
From: Sarah Hudson <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>
Subject: RE: Complaint about Boys and Sex
Hi everyone,
That problem was in the Girls and Sex volume. Pomeroy
wrote that if a boy or a girl, (I don't remember exactly)
wiped himself or herself after sex and washed, that was
some prevention from AIDS. At my former library, I pulled
all the copies of that book of the shelves at branches and
the main library. This wasn't because of a complaint, but
because of inaccurate or potentially dangerous information.
I've never had a complaint about the Boys and Sex volume,
but I can tell you I used to find it left on a table almost
every day when I would pick up. (in a former system).
The pictures are realistically illustrated, and I think some
patrons would read it as a turn-on.
This title was cataloged Young Adult where I used to
work, and was interfiled in with the adult nonficiton.
Sarah
Sarah Hudson
Information Specialist
Independence Regional Library
Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County
shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us
Opinions are my own, and do not reflect those of the
library.
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From: Lynn S. Cockett[SMTP:cockett@scils.rutgers.edu]
Sent: Saturday, May 30, 1998 7:05 PM
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: Re: Complaint about Boys and Sex
good question. tangentially related, wasn't it pointed out some years ago
that these books contained incorrect information about AIDS and how to avoid
or contract it (or something)? I might be wrong about this, but if it's the
case, and the '91 copyright is on the shelf in anyone's library, you might
want to check it out for all of us.
Thanks.
Lynn Cockett
Roseville Public Library, Youth Services wrote:
> Has anyone dealt with any complaints about either of these two books by
> Wardell B. Pomeroy: Boys and Sex or Girls and Sex (Third Ed., 1991)? I
> have recently had a written complaint about them by a parent who wants
> us to move them to the adult collection. We presently shelve the books
> in our Youth Non-Fiction collection, which is for everyone up through
> about age 14. The parent refers to current litigation about alleged
> child abuse in the creation of data for the Kinsey Reports, which
> Pomeroy co-authored with Kinsey. Pomeroy does quote from some of
> Kinsey's research in these later books. Both School Library Journal and
> Bulletin gave positive reviews, and recommended them for grades 6 and
> up. I'd appreciate hearing from anyone who has spent some time with
> these books.
>
> Celia Dirks Hall
> libyouth@roseville.ca.us
> (916) 774-5225
> Roseville Public Library
> 225 Taylor St.
> Roseville, CA 95678
>
> --
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> Roseville Public Library, Adult Services
> 225 Taylor Street
> Roseville, CA 95678
>
> Life is just a bowl of queries!
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:36 1998
From: Trudy Terry <tterry@hpl.lib.tx.us>
Subject: bulletin boards
Does anone have a suggestion for a super NEW Bulletin Board book? I just
noticedthat ours are from the 60's. I have teachers and others who ask
for them but I don't use them myself. I made them promise me I didn't
have to do bulletin boards when I took this job. Thanks . Trudy Terry
Port Arthur Tx.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:43 1998
From: cindio@bedford.lib.nh.us
Subject: Re: attracting teens/Bedford PL
Well,
This discussion has been quite interesting but we were hoping
to get some ideas for questions for a survey of young adults in
our community. Wilson is one of my assistants. He is 18 years
old and really has the potential to become a librarian. He
cares about providing library services and thinks that reading
is important. The survey was his idea and I thought it was a
good one. We have checked the resources we have in the
library, but wanted to find examples that had been used by
other libraries. I suggested he try posting a message to
PUBYAC, I thought he would find the feedback from other library
workers helpful and possibly useful in putting together his
survey. I think the experience has been quite educational for
him but he hasn't received any information regarding survey
questions or tips on putting a survey together yet. If anyone
has done a YA survey we would appreciate your feedback. He is
planning on putting it together over the summer and
administering it during the beginning of the school year. TIA.
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Cindi Ellen O'Connor
Director of Children's Services
Bedford (NH) Public Library
3 Meetinghouse Road, Bedford, NH 03110
603-472-2300, FAX 603-472-2978, Email:cindio@bedford.lib.nh.us
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"Nothing left to do but smile, smile, smile :-)" -R.Hunter
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:31 1998
From: "Alison Hendon" <ahendon@dorsai.org>
Subject: Re: Practical Web Resources for Librarians
DRobin Davis wrote:
> I am in the process of creating a web page of resources for Children's
> Librarians. The sites that I have linked to the page are all sites that
> feature practical, useful information for programming. What I mean by this
> is sites that feature songs, songwords, fingerplays, bibliographies, book
> suggestions, storytime information, program outlines and the like. Please
> look at the site, which has several of my favorite places to get
> fingerplays and crafts at:
>
> http://members.tripod.com/~RGWDavis/index.html
It is my understanding that several internet filtering programs block all
tripod.com
sites, which would be a pity since this sounds like a great library resource.
Alison Hendon
Brooklyn Public LIbrary
Speaking only for myself
Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org
"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 14:23:28 1998
From: Kate Houston <kateho@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Great Biomes/Ecosystems Website!
This website was just added to our Homework Center (Science Section)
http://www.multnomah.lib.or.us/lib/kids/homework/scihc.html#biomes
and I felt many of you would find it extremely helpful as well!
What's It Like Where You Live?
http://cissus.mobot.org/MBGnet/
>From the Missouri Botanical Gardens, this site provides information
about all ecosystems and details within each ecosystem page. Desert
example: desert animals and plants, the desert at night, causes of
deserts, and types of deserts. Deciduous forest example: forest locations,
types of trees, types of leaves, leaf identification guide, colors of
specfic leaves in the fall, forest animals and more.
A great site to answer many student questions!
Kate Houston Voice: (503)736-6012
School Corps Librarian Pager: 202-8165
Multnomah County Library Fax: (503) 248-5441
205 NE Russell, Portland OR 97212 kateho@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us
"Don't be afraid to go out on a limb.
That's where the fruit is."
-Anonymous
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 15:33:48 1998
From: Betsy Bybell <bbybell@norby.latah.lib.id.us>
Subject: Vent puppets
Good morning PUBYAC,
Can anyone suggest sources to purchase vent puppets? I've owned and used 2
of the Folkmanis larger puppets for years, and sadly the mouth of the witch
is getting frayed inside. I'm looking to add another larger vent-type
character to my collection. I know about Folkmanis and Nancy Renfro as
sources for puppets, but I was interested in more professionally made (and
more expensive) sources. Specifically, has anyone used any of Steve
Axtell's line?
Thank you all,
Betsy Bybell
Latah County Library District
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 16:36:44 1998
To: PUBYAC@nysernet.org
Subject: Re: Rudeness on PUBYAC
I've watched this discussion unfold with interest. At the risk of beating a dead
horse, I did want to add one point:
As someone who took distance classes during the course of my MLS, one of my
professor's advice is worth repeating:
With listservs and email, we don't have all of the cues we get from the
telephone (tone of voice) and in person (body language and tone of voice). So,
it's easier to mistake the tone of what someone is trying to convey. (No doubt
one reason the convention of not using all caps -- it seems like shouting -- has
come to be generally accepted on email.) Writing with care -- and reading with a
generous attitude -- can help mitigate this problem.
Just my two cents --
Linda Conroy
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Linda & Paul Conroy
lpconroy@panama.phoenix.net
Panama -- mangoes, papayas and bananas, oh my! --
they all grow in our backyard.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Wed Jun 3 16:53:00 1998
From: Filtering Facts <burt@northwest.com>
Subject: Re: Public Library Sued for NOT Filtering
Carrie Guarria wrote:
>I'm not suggesting that libraries should encourage
>"children" or teens to access such material, but there should be
some
>policy in place which leaves the ultimate responsibility for the child
>where it belongs--with the parent.
>
Why should all the responsibility be with the parent? The provider of the
pornography to the child, in this case the library, must bear some
responsibility, just as the bookstore, theater, or magazine stand must. The
library is no different.
The Internet has changed the rules, and librarians must now face the facts
that librarians do act in loco parentis. It is counter-productive to deny
this.
There are still quite a few undemocratic public libraries that are governed
by appointed boards, and hence not subject to local control. They will
continue to refuse to act in loco parentis for awhile, but eventually
taxpayers are going to tire of their money being spent without their consent
on pornography for their children.
There are too many public librarians who need to be reminded that librarians
are public servants first, and free speech absolutists, second. We our paid
to serve our patrons, not a radical agenda.
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David Burt President, Filtering Facts
Website: http://www.filteringfacts.org
E-Mail: David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
Phone/Fax: 503 635-7048
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