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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:42:52 1998
From: "Jerry Kuntz" <jkuntz@rcls.org>
Subject: KidsClick! children's search engine by librarians
[This message is being cross posted to web4lib, pubyac, publib, and nyline
listservs]
KidsClick!: Web Guide and Search Tool for Kids by Librarians
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http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/KidsClick!/
KidsClick! is comprised of almost 1,800 records for Internet resources of
interest to kids that have been selected, annotated and categorized by a
team of librarians. KidsClick! aims to provide flexible and fast access to
the best that the Internet has to offer kids of all ages. Records can be
browsed in major categories, sub-categories, or specific subjects.
Searches can be limited by a controlled subject vocabulary, reading level,
and amount of illustrative material. Each record contains a descriptive
(rather than evaluative) annotation; in many cases, these content notes
were taken directly from the web sites themselves.
Inspired by the Librarians' Index to the Internet
(http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/InternetIndex/), and initiated by the Ramapo
Catskill Library System under an LSTA grant,
KidsClick! is managed by Jerry Kuntz and hosted by the Berkeley Digital
Library SunSITE as part of their Digital Librarians program
(http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/Admin/librarians.html).
KidsClick! is based on the SWISH-E search engine, and employs Web-based
database maintenance routines developed by Roy Tennant.
The development of the database started in late January, 1998. Records will
continue
to be added to the existing 1800. Currently all records are added by
librarians of the
Ramapo Catskill Library System; however, it is possible that the web-based
entry
procedures could be used by trained librarians elsewhere.
For more information, contact Jerry Kuntz at jkuntz@rcls.org.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:43:37 1998
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: Re: Pornographic Websites
Parents need to be active participants in their
PU>children's growing years, ready to honestly answer questions and deal
PU>with surprises. This equips kids to function in the real world,
PU>because there is no safe place anymore (Thank you, Richard Peck, for
PU>The Last Safe Place on Earth, Delacorte 1995). I
. If parents understand they have to do their job and we are not going
to
PU>then we are sticking with that tried and true policy of refusing to
PU>act "in loco parentis."
The problem is, of course, that society is full of parents who either do
not have the time or energy to properly supervise and relate to their
kids or who, worse yet, are flat out incompetant if not abusive, and can
barely manage their own lives, let alone succesfully parent their kids.
The end result of this is that a great many kids have NOBODY effectively
acting as parents in their lives, and not just the kids in question but
everyone who interacts with them winds up paying the price. How many
times have you seen kids who had no idea of how to behave in public and
thought to yourself that somebody's parenting license ought to be
revoked? Who's going to do the job that parents should do but don't in
so many cases - there's the rub. If there >were< parenting licenses
that could be revoked/never issued, we'd find ourselves in a lot fewer
difficult situations because good parenting would be the rule. And if
wishes were horses then beggars would ride...
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:43:17 1998
From: "zack" <zack@lexus.gslis.utexas.edu>
Subject: Re: Biographies
Hi all, I read almost every biography I could lay my hands on as a child
and as a young adult, but my teenage son, says I'm a freak. Who knew?
Edie edytherg@westol.com(soon, I hope to be interviewed for several
poorly paying jobs, but ones I'd be glad to have anyway.)
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:41:25 1998
From: Walter Minkel <walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Re: Pornographic Websites
Noelle & folks-- One thing we all need to remember is that the Net we see
on our library search stations today will be very different a year from
now, and even more different a year after that. _Yes,_ when one goes
a-searching, one will be given many hits that have nothing to do with a
searcher's actual question. This is because the Web is like a flea market
rather than a library--we must dig through lots of stuff we don't want to
find what we do, and there's no guarantee that we _will_ find the thing
we're after. Lots of the things we look for simply aren't available on the
Net. In my workshops I give the example of Shel Silverstein's poem, "Sarah
Cynthia Sylvia Stout would not take the garbage out." We all know the poem
exists, but is it on the Web? No--at least I haven't found it--because
it's a copyrighted poem that Silverstein sells; it isn't available free. I
anticipate that in another year, the Web will be easier to search. Plus
there are tons of great subject directories out there that will point kids
in the right direction (I have URLs if people are interested).
Unfortunately, there's lots of "adult" material out there. Lots of
kids
who find it (and I'd say over 90%) find it because they're looking for
it, as do lots of adults. Those who aren't looking for it need to know
it's there, and they need to know there's nothing wrong if they find it by
accident, and they should click on the "Back" button if they happen
upon
it. Teach kids it's no big deal, and it won't be any big deal. We all need
to realize that there are lots of unscrupulous porn vendors out there,
using URLs like "www.nasa.com" and "www.whitehouse.com" so
that potential
customers might stumble upon their sites by accident. This is a good
opportunity to teach young people that US govt sites use ".gov," and
_never_ ".com".
I feel we should all be teaching young people constantly that there's lots
of junk and lots of ads out there on the Net, and *here* [insert training]
is how you recognize it, and if you're not looking for it, ignore it and
go back and try another link. If we didn't make such a constant _big deal_
about the (eek!) bad stuff on the Web, & instead did some media literacy
education about how to recognize worthwhile Net resources, the "bad
stuff"
wouldn't be half (wouldn't be a quarter, actually) so attractive &
powerfully "naughty" to those kids (& others) who seek it out. --W
On Sat, 13 Jun 1998 dunlop@VMSVAX.SIMMONS.EDU wrote:
> I do not think that filtering is the answer, but I do think we
> need to concentrate on improving search engines/strategies so that our
> patron's searches don't dredge up 5,000+ web-sites with 4,998+ of those
> hits totally unrelated to what the person is looking for. I know that
> many libraries are "collecting" web-sites as a way to guide their
users.
> I would like to hear more about what librarians plan to do to make the
> Internet more manageable for their patrons and less about filtering.
>
>
> Noelle Dunlop (MLS student)
> dunlop@simmons.edu
>
> No syllogisms please!
>
>
>
>
Walter Minkel, School Corps Technology Trainer
Multnomah County Library, 205 NE Russell St., Portland, OR 97212
Voice (503)736-6002; fax (503)248-5441; walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us
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("Rats...") "Oh, Web pupil, _refer_! Lip up! Be who? Star!"
--Palindrome
of the Month
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:40:50 1998
From: Harriett Smith <harriett@darkwing.uoregon.edu>
Subject: Re: access vs. providing
And then, let's imagine we have a wiretap on each free phone (all calls to
everywhere free) so that we could find out what people were listening to.
just my own thoughts,
harriett
harriett smith
catalog dept, knight library
university of oregon, eugene 97401
harriett@darkwing.uoregon.edu
1-541-346-1863
http://darkwing.uoregon.edu/~harriett/
On Fri, 12 Jun 1998, Filtering Facts wrote:
> Actually, the phone analogy is good one. To make it fit the Internet, let's
> make it truly analogous. Imagine the library had a row of free public
> telephones in the middle of the room. Then imagine letting people use them
> for phone sex.
>
>
*****************************************************************************
> David Burt President, Filtering Facts
> Website: http://www.filteringfacts.org
> E-Mail: David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
> Phone/Fax: 503 635-7048
>
>
>
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:41:53 1998
From: RichardGuy@aol.com
Subject: Re: Casey's Insults
That's right, Casey -- what YOU do is NOT education. What YOU
mostly do is repeat yourself, endlessly. As a public librarian what you do on
the job is FETCH. Go get that book, boy. Takes an MLS to do that? To
pretend you do more is to overvalue the babysitting you do afterschool and
during the summers for a fraction of the kids we deal with. You keep them off
the streets. Gosh. So does the Seven Eleven, and with many of the same
methods, only they make a profit at it.
You are a disgrace to your profession and as long as you use lists
to insult and lie, I'll be right back up in your face. PUBYACers, remember
who started this.
You spew:
>>>>public librarians who are *working with kids* more hours per
year than
teachers............
You don't have a clue. By the time you open your front door, I've
been at work for three hours. Actually letting them in, not opening my mail
and waiting 'til the clock strikes 10. They ALL come in, all day long, not
just those who wander by because they have no place to be. You could keep
your place open 24 hours a day and you wouldn't see the numbers or put in the
time because..................they are in school! Here's your sign.
>>>>Public libraries are undertaking these challenges right now with
a
miniscule fraction of the money available to local public school districts.
Can't sell the program, Jim? Finding out what you're worth? Lots
of PLs out there manage to pass their local levies. Why won't your customers
back you? Are they as tired of you and your whining as I am? We're in a
booming economy. If you can't get any now, you need some Viagra. You can't
get a date. Meanwhile I'm making good money, taking long vacations, my
girlfriend is pretty, and I'm eating well. Maybe you should learn to dance.
Richard K. Moore, Librarian
Bolsa Grande High School
Garden Grove, CA
Email: RichardGuy@AOL.COM
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:40:47 1998
From: Edmonds Reference Library <edmref@sno-isle.org>
Subject: Re: Syllogisms and netiquette
schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us wrote:
> I addressed it to the list as a
> whole because I considered it to be about a widespread problem of
> general interest - employers wanting to spend as little as possible to
> get someone to do as much as possible and so being willing to hire
> people who are not yet well trained in the field to try and do
> professional work anyway. Had the party in question indicated that she
> had already received professional library training in another area of
> the field I would have answered somewhat differently, but the basic
> issue is still the same; people who are being hired to work as
> Children's Librarians should first have been trained as Children's
> Librarians. Woe be unto us all and to our publics if our profession
> becomes viewed as one which can be picked up on the job.
>
> Chuck Schacht
> Romeo District Library
> Romeo, MI.
I guess I was very fortunate that the management of the Free Library of
Philadelphia was willing to give me a chance to learn on the job, 'cause
I had NO background in children's services when I started out. I did
have a very strong desire to learn more and the ability to learn
quickly, (plus the general background gained with the Master's degree),
so in about 3 years I did consider myself a journey-level librarian.
So I think that anyone with the will, desire and ability to become a
children's librarian should at least be given a chance!
Jonathan Betz-Zall, Children's Librarian, Edmonds Library, Wash.
edmref@sno-isle.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:40:49 1998
From: "Mindy Schafer" <mschafer@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: Formal training for Children's librarians
On June 15, Chuck Schacht wrote:
but the basic
> issue is still the same; people who are being hired to work as
> Children's Librarians should first have been trained as Children's
> Librarians. Woe be unto us all and to our publics if our profession
> becomes viewed as one which can be picked up on the job.
>
> Chuck Schacht
> Romeo District Library
> Romeo, MI.
>
In an ideal world, I would agree whole heartedly with Chuck's
response; however, I don't believe it's always possible to receive
formal training as a Children's Librarian prior to entering the
job market. Fortunately, I had the opportunity to work full-time as
a professional intern in a fairly large children's services
department during my second and third year in grad school. However,
the number of opportunites for such an experience are extremely
limited. To be completely honest, most of what I learned about
being a children's librarian was "picked up" on the job. Although I
think that term makes it sound casual when indeed it was an intense
period of learning, questioning and observing, followed by the
opportunity for participating, programing and
coordinating events, collections, and services.
Added to the lack of pre-graduation employment opportunities is the
lack of training being offered by Library (& Information) studies
programs. My alma mater (University of Michigan) currently offers
only one course that deals specifically with childrens & YA services,
programs, and collections. Are other MILS programs also cutting back
on the number of youth services courses offered? If this is a trend
in the universities, I'm worried about what the future holds.
Any comments?
**************************
* Mindy Schafer *
*Youth Services Librarian*
* Novi Public Library *
* Novi, Michigan *
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:40:47 1998
From: Beth Gourley <bag@visuallink.com>
Subject: CASPR
Hello--My name is Beth Gourley and I have been working as
Reference/Young Adult librarian for the past few years in Winchester,
VA. I am now about to make a shift---I have taken a job as a school
librarian in Tianjin, China. I understand the catalog system I will be
inheriting is CASPR. I have contacted CASPR and we are unable to
coordinate a training session. They are supposed to be sending me a list
of users. I have been currently using DYNIX and had used DataTrek before
that.
My request--is there anyone out there, who is using the CASPR system who
would be willing to demonstrate their system. I live in Virginia, but I
will be travelling to Wyoming the last 2 weeks of July.I would like to
see the CASPR system before I leave for China in August. Is there anyone
out there who could help me--would you please respond to me personally
at bag@visuallink.com.
Thank you--beth gourley
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:40:47 1998
From: Walter Minkel <walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Re: Summer Reading Purpose
To Louise Meyers: Hooray! A good, honest, thoughtful answer about why we
have summer reading programs. We want kids in the building at a time of
year when they don't need to be there. I believe an SRP should be set up
to encourage the marginal readers, not the super-readers who would be
trying to get in the building if it burned down. We want those kids,
particularly, to see that reading & books _can_ be fun. --W
Walter Minkel, School Corps Technology Trainer
Multnomah County Library, 205 NE Russell St., Portland, OR 97212
Voice (503)736-6002; fax (503)248-5441; walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us
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("Rats...") "Oh, Web pupil, _refer_! Lip up! Be who? Star!"
--Palindrome
of the Month
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:43:51 1998
From: Heidi Estrin <estrinh@clpgh.org>
Subject: summer reading clubs
The recent opinions on Summer Reading Clubs have been a great relief to my
mind. I thought I was alone in thinking that SRC's are really just a vehicle
for collecting good statistics!
The mission of keeping non-readers reading over the summer is a noble one, but
how often do we reach those kids? Since SRC is voluntary, those are the kids
least likely to join... especially if we burden them with lots of rules and
quotas.
In my opinion, there are a number of other things we could do during the summer
that would be more useful. For instance, we could run summer reading day
camps, in which we could lead fun activities like creative dramatics,
storytelling, creative writing, as well as read-aloud and silent reading times,
perhaps with reading instruction included. Or we could do outreach to parents,
teaching them about the importance of reading and how to read aloud to their
children and how to be reading role models. Or we could offer low-key
non-threatening tutoring and/or reading practice times for kids who need extra
help over the summer.
I think perhaps part of the reason that SRC's often don't meet their noble
goals is that they are set up in a very do-it-yourself kind of pattern. We
expect the kids to do the reading on their own, and although we offer
encouragement in the form of prizes and maybe suggestions in the form of
booklists, we don't offer much guidance in terms of HOW to pick a good book,
HOW to tell if a book is the right reading level for you, HOW to cope with
difficulties like noisy household, busy schedule, pesky siblings, TV constantly
on, etc. There are many parents who don't know how to support their child's
reading, how to make a reading-friendly environment in the home. If we really
are trying to reach the non-readers (and not just get an easy stat off the avid
readers) we should be offering more holistic, whole-family guidance and
modeling.
Now I must admit that these are ideas that I haven't really tried myself yet.
I AM trying to make my SRC this year more activity-oriented and less
prize-oriented, though. I am concentrating on reading-related prizes like
books, posters, character-dolls, bookplates, etc. so that the prizes will
reinforce the reading-is-fun message. In my opinion, prizes like baseball
tickets are nice, but they kind of undercut the books and make them look like
work. I am also offering a large number of library activities including
intergenerational storytimes to try to get the whole family involved, and club
gatherings in the nearby park (lunchtime picnics) to give club members a chance
to meet each other and informally "talk books." I will also offer
read-aloud
training for big kids who would like to "guest star" at regular
storytimes -
peer reinforcement is always good. I tell all this to show that I am
starting to practice what I preach, even though my ideas are bigger than what I
have done so far. I hope I'm not coming off as pompous.
I will be interested to see what people think.
Heidi Estrin
estrinh@clpgh.org
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh, Lawrenceville Branch
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:44:50 1998
From: Dawn Rutherford <rutherfo@chipublib.org>
Subject: Re: discussion group
>
> << My first challenge
> is when to schedule this. If you have had any experience with this would
> you let me know? >>
> Do not try Sat or Sun. It does not work on those days.
I don't know if this is necessarily true. I was in a YA
discussion/advisory group for 5 years that met Saturday mornings at 9am.
I think it depends on the neighborhood, and what other activities the kids
are into.
Dawn Rutherford
Youth Librarian
Carl B. Roden Branch
Chicago Public Library
rutherfo@chipublib.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:45:11 1998
From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
Subject: biographies
We have all of our YA biographies shelved in a separate space here at the
Englewood Public Library. All the YA biogs have a special label and are
shelved in alphabetical order by the subjects last name. So all the Michael
Jordan bios would come after the Jesse Jackson bios and so on. It seems to
work for us especially when kids have the infamous "I need a
biography"
assignment.
Hope this helps!
Ilene Lefkowitz
YA Librarian
Englewood Public Library
ILefkowitz@aol.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:45:41 1998
From: Lesley Knieriem <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Pornographic Websites
What an excellent idea. I'll start. Mainly what we try to do is
put as many "buttons" to sites like the Internet Public Library and
Encyclopedia Britannica Internet Guide as possible, as well as to specific
"homework" and "cool" sites. We do a lot of one-on-one
"hands-on"
tutoring on 'net searching, and I always try to make a point of showing
kids these kinds of search engines, emphasizing the positive: how this
helps them find the best, most authoritative sites, and not waste a lot of
time with irrelevant sites. I also try to stress to adults and kids the
importance of evaluating a site from the little descriptions many search
engines give, and understanding the meaning of the different domain names
(.gov, .org, .com, .edu, etc.) In many ways, it's just an extension of
the "evaluation of sources" responsibility we librarians always had as
a part of basic bibliographic instruction -- teaching patrons to check
copyright dates, the difference between using "People" and
"JAMA" as a
source for medical info, and the like.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:46:26 1998
From: Judy Dishong <dishonju@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Father's Day poetry
Hi all~
Just a quick note~
While looking for something else, I came across 2 poetry titles that might be of
use to those still looking for Father's Day poetry:
_Father:An Anthology of Verse_ , collected by Margery Doud, E. P Dutton
and Co., 1931
I know, I know, it's a bit 'old', but some of the poems are great!
_In Daddy's Arms I Am Tall:African Americans Celebrating Fathers_,
illustrated by Javaka Steptoe, Lee & Low Books, Inc., 1997
~Judy Dishong
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 18:46:05 1998
From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
Subject: elephant craft
Can anyone help with an easy elephant craft for a Pajama Time storyhour?
We have thought of a fingerpuppet but can't find a good pattern. 10
elephants balancing on a string was suggested but since the die cut
machine we have access to doesn't have an elephant it would be cruel to
ask anyone to cut upwards of 300 elephants. The ages range from 2-5 with
parents in attendence. Thanks for any suggestions
Julie Rines
Thomas Crane PL
Quincy, MA 02169
jrines@ocln.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 19:43:17 1998
From: hartmanm@VMSVAX.SIMMONS.EDU
ubject: Hemelins
Thank you to all who suggested the Moomintroll books by Tove Janssen as
the answer to the request for a book about hippopotamus-like creatures.
Now if only the patron will come back, I can give him the answer.
Thank you all so much.
Maureen Hartman
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 20:43:10 1998
From: "Susan Moore - Children's Coordinator"
<MOORE@louisville.lib.ky.us>
Subject: tandem storytelling
A co-worker and I are looking for ideas for tandem storytelling: books, oral
tales and songs. We are targeting children 6-10 but would like some ideas
that we can take up to older children and/or entertain parents with at the
same time.
We know of Anansi and the Moss Coverer Rock & Poems for Two Voices. We have
checked the storytelling reference sources we have on hand without any
success.
Thanks,
Susan Moore
Coordinator, Children's Services
Louisville Free Public Library
301 York Street
Louisville, KY 40203
fx:502-574-1688
ph:502-574-1604
internet:moore@louisville.lib.ky.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 20:46:13 1998
From: linda heil vaise <lvaise@web.aacpl.lib.md.us>
Subject: Stumper-Little Rascals
Dear all:
A patron from our library is looking for books in a series that
she read as a child in the 1950s or 1960s. The series was based on the
"Little Rascals" and the patron believes it was called something like
"Our
Gang"(but it is not the book by Leonard Maltin). The patron particularly
remembers the lovely pencil drawings (in black and white). Any help would
be appreciated. Please reply directly to me email address.
Thanks,
Linda
Linda Vaise
lvaise@web.aacpl.lib.md.us
Provinces Branch
Anne Arundel County Public Library
Maryland, USA
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 21:43:26 1998
From: "Ellen Eifert" <eeifert@mailexcite.com>
Subject: Stumper: Grandfather's Death
Hi! I having a feeling that this was a recent stumper question and apologize for
repeating it! But hopefully a quick post to me directly can answer my patron's
question.
What is the title of a book about a tree that loses it's leaves symbolizing the
death of a grandfather. It is like "The Giving Tree" but isn't.
Thanks for your help! Ellen Eifert, Children's Librarian
Pennsauken Library, Pennsauken, NJ 08110 eeifert@mailexcite.com
Free web-based email, Forever, From anywhere!
http://www.mailexcite.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 21:45:17 1998
From: Bobbi Ludwig <BJ.Ludwig@marquette.edu>
ubject: Many Thanks!
I just wanted to thank all those who replied to my query about books that
may help with fear of losing a parents love and fear of growing up. The
suggestions from 9 replies focused on three titles--Pig Pig Grows Up by
McPhail, Love You Forever by Munsch, and Little Gorilla by Bornstein. I
was able to find two of these at the local library; unfortunately they did
not have Little Gorilla so I will have to ILL or get it elsewhere (an area
university curriculum collection does have it!) Also suggested were:
Koala Lou by Mem Fox, Runaway Bunny by Margaret Wise Brown, and Leo the
Late Bloomer by Robert Kraus. Again, thanks so much for the quick and
helpful replies! I knew PUBYAC would come through!
Bobbi-Jean Ludwig
bj.ludwig@marquette.edu OR ludwigbj@vms.csd.mu.edu
Marquette University Science Library
Daytime Supervisor
Bobbi-Jean Ludwig
Science Library, Day Supervisor
Marquette University
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 21:54:57 1998
From: Janette Johnston <jj@round-rock.tx.us>
ubject: stumper - series, early 1900's and brothers
Thanks to all who answered my last post about the dancing camel story. It
was "The Camel Dances" from "Fables" by Arnold Lobel. My
patron was so pleased.
Now I have another quest. A patron remembers reading as a child, a series of
3 or 4 books set in the late 1800's or early 1900's, possible in the
midwest. The stories are primarily about one character, but he does have a
brother. One of them may be named Tom. One episode she remembers is that
their family owned the first toilet in their town, and the people thought
they were crazy. One of the brothers also had to get a special shoe so that
he could run and play baseball. Another episode had something about them
catching mumps and having to stay in bed. Does this ring a bell with anyone?
I have checked the character index in Something about the Author, but I
couldn't verify any of the Tom's. TIA.
Janette Johnston
Children's Services Coordinator
Round Rock Public Library
216 E. Main
Round Rock, Tx 78664
512-218-7002
FAX: 512-218-7061
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 22:41:47 1998
From: "Nadine Flores and Joel J. Rane" <expopkch@lapl.org>
Subject: BIB: 3rd Grade Historical Fiction Bib
Here is the list of 3rd Grade Hist Fic with 50% of the list coming from
PUBYAC suggestions. Thanks to all who sent in their suggestions.
Leonard Roudman
San Ramon Library
THIRD GRADE HISTORICAL FICTION BIBLIOGRAPHY
Ackerman, Karen: -The Night Crossing-
Alderson, Sue Ann: -Ida and the Wool Smugglers-
American Girl Series titles
Anderson, Joan: -Joshua+s Westward Journal- (U.S. Civil War/Frontier years)
Armstrong, Jennifer: -Patrick Doyle is Full of Blarney- (early 20th
century)
Bailer, Darice: -The Last Rail- (building the first transcontinental
railroad)
Balgassi, Haemi: -Peacebound Trains-
Banim, Lisa: -A Spy in the King+s Colony-
Bartone, Elisa: -Peppe the Lamplighter-
Baylor, Byrd: -Hawk, I+m Your Brother-
Benchley, Nathaniel: -George the Drummer Boy- (U.S. Colonial/Revolutionary
period)
Benchley, Nathaniel: -Sam the Minuteman-
Bishop, Claire H.: -Twenty and Ten-
Brenner, Barbara: -Wagon Wheels- (Kansas, 1870s)
Bulla, Clyde: -Eagle Feather-
Bulla, Clyde: -Pirate+s Promise-
Bulla, Clyde: -Riding the Pony Express-
Bulla, Clyde: -Viking Adventure-
Bulla, Clyde: -A Lion To Guard Us-
Bunting, Eve: -Dandelions-
Bunting, Eve: -I Am the Mummy Heb-Nefert-
Bunting, Eve: -The Wall- - (early 20th century)
Burnett, Francis Hodgson: -Sara Crewe-
Clifford, Eth: -Man Who Sang in the Dark- (U.S. early 20th century)
Coats, Laura Jane: -Almond Orchard-
Coerr, Harriet: -Chang+s Paper Pony-
Coerr, Harriet: -The Josefina Story Quilt-
Coerr, Harriet: -Sadako and the Thousand Cranes-
Cohen, Barbara: -Molly+s Pilgrim-
Cohen, Barbara: -Thank You, Jackie Robinson-
Conrad, Pam: -Call Me Ahnighito-
Cox, David: -Bossyboots-
Dalgliesh, Alice: -Courage of Sarah Noble-
Dorris, Michael: -Morning Girl- (check cat)
Edmonds, Walter D.: -The Matchlock Gun-
Estes, Eleanor: -The Hundred Dresses-
Fife, Dale: -North of Danger-
Fisher, Dorothy Canfield: -Understood Betsy-
Fleischman, Sid: -Jim Ugly-
Fleischman, Sid: -The Midnight Horse-
Fleischman, Sid: -The Whipping Boy-
Friedman, Ina R.: -How My Parents Learned to Eat-
Fritz, Jean: -The Cabin Faced West-
Fritz, Jean: -George Washington+s Breakfast- (U.S. Colonial/Revolutionary
period)
Gauch, Patricia: -This Time, Tempe Wicke?- (U.S. Colonial/Revolutionary
period)
Graff, Polly Anne: -Bread and Butter Journey-
Gross, Virginia T.: -The Day It Rained Forever-
Hall, Donald: -The Ox-Cart Man-
Hall, Donald: -When Willard Met Babe Ruth-
Harvey, Brett: -Cassie+s Journey-
Harvey, Brett: -Immigrant Girl-
Hearn, Betsy: -Seven Brave Women- (check cat)
Hesse, Karen: -Letters From Rifka-
Hest, Amy: -Love You, Soldier- (U.S. early 20th century)
Hest, Amy: -When Jessie Came Across the Sea-
Hopkinson, Deborah: -Sweet Clara and the Freedom Quilt-
Howard, Ellen: -The Chickenhouse House-
Hyatt, Patricia Rusch: -Coast to Coast With Alice-
Innocenti, Roberto: -Rose Blanche-
Kinsey-Warnock, Natalie: -Wilderness Cat-
Kroll, Steven: -Mary McLean and the St. Patrick+s Day Parade-
Kudlinski, Kathleen: -Earthquake!: a story of old San Francisco-
Kudlinski, Kathleen: -Night Bird: a story of the Seminole Indians-
Lasker, Joe: -Tournament of Knights-
Lawlor, Laurie: -Addie Across the Prairie-
Lawson, Robert: -Ben and Me-
Lawson, Robert: -Mr. Revere and I- (U.S. Colonial/Revolutionary period)
Lawson, Robert: -They Were Strong and Good-
Levinson, Nancy Smiler: -Clara and the Bookwagon-
Levinson, Riki: -Dinnie Abbie Sister-r-r- (late 1940s, New York City)
Levoy, Myron: -The Witch of Fourth Street-
Lewis, Thomas P.: -Hill of Fire-
Lied, Kate: -Potato: a tale from the Great Depression-
Lobel, Arnold: -On the Day Peter Stuyvesant Sailed into Town-
Lord, Bette Bao: -In the Year of the Boar and Jackie Robinson-
Lottridge, Celia Barker: -Ticket to Canada-
Lowrey, Janette: -Six Silver Spoons- (U.S. Colonial/Revolutionary period)
Lowry, Lois: -Number the Stars-
MacLachlan, Patricia: -Sarah, Plain and Tall- (U.S. Civil War/Frontier
years)
MacLachlan, Patricia: -Skylark- (U.S. Civil War/Frontier years)
McCully, Emily: -Beautiful Warrior: The Legend of the Nun+s kung fu-
McCully, Emily: -Bobbin Girl-
McSwigan, Marie: -Snow Treasure-
Minahan, John A.: -Abigail+s Drum-
Monjo, F.N.: -The Drinking Gourd- (U.S. Civil War/Frontier years)
Monjo, F.N.: -Gettysburg: Tad Lincoln+s Story-
Monjo, F.N.: -Vicksburg Veteran- (U.S. Civil War-
Monjo, F.N.: -Willie Jasper+s Golden Eagle- (U.S. Civil War/Frontier years)
Nichol, Barbara: -Beethoven Lives Upstairs-
Oppenheim, Shulamith: -Lily Cupboard-
Peck, Robert Newton: -Rabbits and Redcoats- (1775)
Pellowski, Anne: -Winding Valley Farm: Annie+s Story- (U.S. early 20th
century)
Polacco, Patricia: -Pink and Say- (Civil War)
Politi, Leo: -The Mission Bell-
Politi, Leo: -Three Stalks of Corn-
Putnam, Alice: -Westering-
Rappaport, Doreen: -The Boston Coffee Party-
Ray, Deborah Kogan: -My Daddy Was a Soldier-
Reit, Seymour: -Guns for General Washington- (U.S. Colonial/Revolutionary
period)
Roop, Peter: -Ahyoka and the Talking Leaves-
Roop, Peter: -Buttons for General Washington-
Ross, Alice: -The Copper Lady-
Sandin, Joan: -The Long Way to a New Land-
Sandin, Joan: -Long Way Westward-
Schweitzer, Byrd Baylor: -One Small Blue Bead-
Shemin, Margaretha: -The Little Riders-
Shub, Elizabeth: -The White Stallion-
Smucker, Anna Egan: -No Star Nights-
Sorenson, Virginia: -Plain Girl-
Speare, Elizabeth George: -Sign of the Beaver-
Spier, Peter: -Tin Lizzie-
Turner, Ann: -Dakota Dugout- (U.S. Civil War/Frontier years)
Turner, Ann Warren: -Katie+s Trunk-
Uchida, Yoshiko: -The Bracelet- (U.S.-1942)
Van Leeuwen, Jean: -A Fourth of July On the Plains-
Weaver, Lydia: -Child Star: when talkies came to Hollywood-
Weitzman, David: -Old Ironsides: Americans Build a Fighting Ship-
West, Tracey: -Fire In the Valley-
Wetterer, Margaret K.: -Kate Shelley and the Midnight Express-
Whelan, Gloria: -Hannah- (late 19th century)
Whelan, Gloria: -Indian School-
Whelan, Gloria: -Night of the Full Moon-
Wilder, Laura Ingalls: -Little House in the Big Woods-
Winnick, Karen B.: -Mr. Lincoln+s Whiskers-
Yep, Laurence: -Hiroshima-
Some titles found in Recommended Readings in Literature, California Dept. of
Education 1988
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Tue Jun 16 22:51:33 1998
From: Susan Mangan <smangan@rcls.org>
Subject: Readathons as Fundraisers?
My library is in the midst of a fundraising drive for an
addition. They would like to involve children in the fundraising
through a readathon. Has anyone done anything like this before?
I would be grateful for any information about this.
Thank you.
Susan Mangan smangan@rcls.org
Children's Librarian
Ellenville Public Library
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