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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:37:21 1998
From: Dolly Irvin <dirvin@sjvls.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Volunteer policies
This question is not really related to children's services directly, but I
still have hopes someone may be able to help. Our library is currently
trying construct a volunteer policy that encompasses what a volunteer can
do, what our liability is and so forth. If anyone has one of these for
their library and would not mind passing it on, I would greatly appreciate
it.
Thanks.
Dolly Irvin
Children's Librarian/Tulare County, CA.
dirvin@sjvls.lib.ca.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:38:12 1998
From: Filtering Facts <burt@northwest.com>
ubject: Re: Casey's Insults
Shannon VanHemert wrote:
>
>PUBYAC is a moderated list. Moderated does not mean censored. I
>understand from an editorial in Library Journal that Mr. Burt voluntarily
>removed himself from ALAOIF listserve because his views on filtering
>caused him to receive blistering and offensive rebuttals. He has decided
>he will not resubscribe to ALAOIF until it is moderated. I was saddened
>and somewhat alarmed to read that. Saddened because dialogue has been
>curtailed, alarmed because of the view that "moderated" in some
people's
>minds means a moderator will filter (if you will) discussion on a topic.
>
Setting reasonable ground rules for civil behavior in a professional
discussion is only common sense. I do not think it is a coincidence that
the two most popular and useful library lists, WEB4LIB and PUBLIB, have
strict rules against personal attacks.
I've seen more than one list run into the ground because a few people
decided to wage personal vendettas, and in the process halted all useful
discussion.
Call it "censorship" if you will, but like I always say, censorship,
for
lack of a better word, is good for librarians. ;->
*****************************************************************************
David Burt President, Filtering Facts
Website: http://www.filteringfacts.org
E-Mail: David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
Phone/Fax: 503 635-7048
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:36:50 1998
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: Tall Tale Craft
Here's a corny idea...make long, wide tails and have each make 4-6 lines
along it. THey can then draw scenes from their favorite tall tales in the
little sections....
Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
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From: David Conner
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 1998 7:41 AM
To: pubyac
Subject: Tall Tale Craft
<snip>Our SRP theme this summer is Go Wild and I have crafts planned for
most of each week's mini-theme, but am having a problem for the Tall Tale
Week. Any craft ideas for ages three to five, then six to eight and nine
to 12.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:37:55 1998
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Subject: parenting licenses
Not a bad idea, Chuck. Parenting licenses! Now, if I were giving them out,
you could lose yours for circumcising your kid, piercing his/her ears,
reading astrology columns to him/her, or letting him/her listen to rap
music. Of course, we all agree, right?
Bonita
--
Bonita Kale
bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:38:50 1998
From: CCullum621@aol.com
Subject: Re: Rudeness & Unprofessional behavior
I have been off line for a couple of days and just caught up with my e-mail.
I was surprised to see a number of my so called professionals in the field
acting like children (sorry, children probably act better than what I've
read).
I've been a school librarian and a public librarian both and both sides have
their challenges. School Librarians let's remember that though you may have
the children all day the Public librarians have had these same children for
many years before they started school and still get them after you go home.
To the person that thinks Public Librarians just fetch. You obviously have
never worked in that field. You don't have to help these children with
assignments as much as the PLs do and also deal with their parents. Where SLs
deal with just the children from your school the PLs must deal with children
from a variety of schools.
Public Librarians please remember that school librarians often do not have
the help of staff that you have during the day. They have to deal with
difficult teacher all day rather than part of the day as you do and have the
children for longer periods of time during the day.
Let's try to get along. We're suppose to be working together and helping
each other , not cutting each other apart.
Cut out the nonsense and grow up please.
Carolyn Cullum
Children's Librarian
CCullum621@aol.com
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:39:39 1998
From: lochwouters@axp.winnefox.org
ubject: Re: Formal training for Children's librarians
I've always been fascinated by the issues of training & prep at library
schools and SLIS's. When I first came out of UW-Madison (WI) many years
ago, I felt strongly that despite great and strong children's services
classes, I wasn't quite prepared. Luckily, I worked for a wonderful,
thoughtful, creative children's librarian for my first three years and
she was a mentor extraordinaire. She taught me the nuts and bolts of the
everyday and let me see how to really creatively keep childrne's services
growing and flowing.
What my degree work gave me was not the "practical" but the
philosophical
underpinnings that inform all my decisions and work with kids: library
history, philosophy, cataloging combined with the youth services focus.
The practical stuff of my day-to-day career has come from from reading
professional literature, workshops, discussions with colleagues and
memberships in professional organizations (saying nothing about
attendance at conferences).
Kids work isn't just the literature and programs. Its the reference, the
cataloging, the outreach, the technology, the board reports, the
collaboration and networking. All those generalist courses have served
me well in my career path dedicated to youth services. I had the option
many years ago of taking courses towards my degree that weren't offered
in the SLIS program and so filled out my credits with coursework on child
development, reading theory and theater for kids. Perhaps, if that is
still an option in master's degree programs, that would be a way to focus
on youth in educational preparation. There is much I was able to do in
the heady educational freedom days of the 70's to personalize my degree
work (including a short "apprenticeship" at a branch library) and make
it
work in a way that, on reflection with 20 years of experience, proved to
me that my SLIS education was much deeper and more helpful that I had
realized at the time.
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Marge Loch-Wouters | Email: lochwouters@winnefox.org
Menasha's Public Library lochwout@athenet.net
Elisha D. Smith Public Library | Phone: (920)751-5165
Menasha, WI 54952-3191 | Fax: (920)751-5159
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:37:57 1998
From: Carole D Fiore <cfiore@earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: Brochures for new mothers
Why reinvent the wheel! Have you looked at the How to Raise a
Reader/Born to Read Brochure that ALSC puts out? In addition to
providing hints and tips for new parents, it has a great reading list.
It is available in packs of 50. Currently, it is available in English
and by the end of the summer, will also be available in Spanish. You
can put this together with some of the other Born to Read materials --
such as a bib, picture frame magnet, outlet covers, etc. Add a board
book, an application form for a library card, a map to the library,
etc., and you have a great start at getting new parents to the library.
The joint ALA/CBC Committee is also working on a "grow chart" brochure
that will have some ages and stages information and age and
developmentally appropriate books. We hope to have that out by the end
of the summer.
If you are interested in starting a Born to Read program, you might
want to come to Up the Leadership Ladder -- the ALSC conference that
will be held this fall in Indianapolis. We will be having a full day
session on Born to Read. Speakers will include Rose Trevino, Steve Herb
and Sara Willoby-Herb, Sue Nespeca, Dr. Wil Blechman (a medical doctor
speaking on infant brain development), and myself. Brochures detailing
the conference are available from the ALSC office.
Carole Fiore
Library Consultant
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:38:15 1998
From: Lawrence <lawrencs@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Jim Casey vs Richard Moore
I sincerely hope that we have heard the last of this argument, it is
divisive and not worth my time to read.
Give me something useful to read please!
Sharon
Sharon Lawrence Phone: 630.960.1200
Children's Reference Coordinator Fax: 630.960.9374
Downers Grove Public Library e-mail: lawrencs@sls.lib.il.us
1050 Curtiss Street
Downers Grove, IL 60515
...the love of learning, the sequestered nooks, and all the sweet
serenity of books. -Longfellow
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:38:29 1998
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: library as parent/Rah!Rah! Filters
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Guarria wrote:
(Much snippage, good points: Libraries aren't safe places...)
> there is always a possibility a child may see something the
> parent doesn't approve of. I have an acquaintence who was extremely
> upset when her 6-year-old daughter casually and innocently mentioned the
> word "penis" to her and made it clear that her daughter was not
to discuss
> such things. She apparently feels that her daughter's knowlege of
> anything sexual is taboo, even something as basic as anatomy. And who am I
> to say she's wrong (although I think she is). No filter would protect this
> girl from finding basic, scientific information on the human body on the
> internet, nor should it. Ergo the problem: What one parent thinks is fine,
> even preferable for their child to know another parent would strongly
> object to.
Which leads me to my promised post: Why I believe filters belong in public
library terminals. Which, surprise, surprise; I do.
Just not filters as they currently stand, run by either the library staff
or (even worse!) some distant company to "standards" that are
relatively
opaque but promise a panacea of "safety". From what? By whose
standards?
On the other hand, while the tech. as it stands really only makes filters
workable as products purchased by individuals with the
right/responsibility to restrict the internet access of others (A company
toward it's employees *on the job* or a parent and child), I think it
likely that our lovely capitalist system will encourage development of a
more generally usefull tool [*]
Specifically, what I'd like to see is a selection of filters loaded on any
public access terminal. The library's thesaurus filter that acts to
refine definitions and provide in-context definitions, synonyms and
antonyms during a search, and the James Dobson/Family Friendly Library
Filter, and the Green America! Filter (For parents who don't care about
generative organs but violently object to animals-as-food) or.... you get
the idea.
A community summit could even decide upon a default filter for the
"children's" commputers with the understanding that it is pretty easy
to
turn it off and select a different filter.
This, of course, wouldn't stop anyone from actively seeking porn,
marijuana, bomb-instructions or Klansman articles (all of which I would
actively condemn as anti-social, unpleasant choices, should you ask my
personal opinion). I do sympathize with the desire of parents to raise
their children "their" way, and with the desperate need to bring some
order to the chaos on the web.
But I want those choices in the hands of individuals, not the Powers That
Be - even if the PTB happens to include me.
Your friendly libertarian librarian,
Kirsten Edwards [* MOST of these ideas cheerfully appropriated
kirstedw@kcls.org from Esther Dysons: RELEASE 2.0 - a book well
worth the time of any librarian struggling with
the ethical and practical implications of internet
access.]
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:39:26 1998
From: Carol & Marcel Erkens <erkens@tconl.com>
ubject: Re: Rudeness and how I handle it...
Good Morning All,
I've learned a few things in my years on different listservs. One is,
there will always be flames and disagreements. After all, we're not clones
of each other. The 2nd and most important, reading the "Subject" line
saves
me alot of time and trouble when I decide I don't want to follow a thread.
Thus, when I see a topic I have no interest it, I just hit that Delete key.
The other thing I have is a little feature called a filter on my email
program.......OOOOOOHHHHH shades of censorship! I just put certain people's
addresses on my "filter" list for a while, until I think the flame is
done
and all their mail send goes "Poof!"
I admit I was a bit upset with the discussion about filtering software on
public computers....it was getting way too personal and I decided to drop
put of the discussion. After all, when there are 2 people who have entirely
different and opposite views who feel as strongly as some do, it's a sure
bet one will not be able to "convert" the other, so why bother?
That's different from a good, healthy debate where people can learn
something from each other, even if they don't change their minds. I enjoy
my lists and would never dream of dropping out just because I don't like
what someone said. To me, that would be like cutting off my nose to spite
my face.
The ideas on this list are wonderful and I plan on coming back for more!
Carol
Young Adult Librarian
Abrahams Branch, Omaha Public Library
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:37:07 1998
From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
Subject: Re: Formal training for Children's librarians
> Added to the lack of pre-graduation employment opportunities is the
> lack of training being offered by Library (& Information) studies
> programs. My alma mater (University of Michigan) currently offers
> only one course that deals specifically with childrens & YA services,
> programs, and collections. Are other MILS programs also cutting back
> on the number of youth services courses offered? If this is a trend
> in the universities, I'm worried about what the future holds.
Yikes, me too! I thought my own library school (U. of Washington)
gave Children's Services short shrift because it had only one
children's person on the faculty, but now I feel pretty lucky. At
least as of 4 years ago, 5 or 6 separate courses in Children's
Services were offered. (It is a 2-year program, so perhaps that
gives the curriculum room for so many dedicated children's courses.)
What can other recent grads say about Children's Services at their
schools?
Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Public Library
Biddeford, ME 04005
(207)284-4181
vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:36:51 1998
From: Rae Kozloff <alib2@sos.net>
Subject: Internet use by non-patrons
Our library requires that Internet users be patrons of our library,
so when visitors/tourists passing through towncome in to read their
email
on the Web we have to turn them away (or sometimes we let them
use staff workstation terminals if it's convenient). I'm wondering
what other libraries do that have this restriction about "patrons
only"?
Thanks.
Rae Kozloff
Anacortes Public Library
alib2@sos.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:40:21 1998
From: andrew or anne <paradis@jorsm.com>
ubject: Re: Tall Tale Craft
We did tracings of kid's bodies on brown craft paper (obtained free from
maintenance) and then drew haMMERS AND ATTACHED.ED FOR jOHN hENRY.
aNNEE
At 07:41 AM 6/17/98 -0400, you wrote:
>Our SRP theme this summer is Go Wild and I have crafts planned for most
>of each week's mini-theme, but am having a problem for the Tall Tale
>Week.
>Any craft ideas for ages three to five, then six to eight and nine to
>12.
"'You have no business wearing white to the Middle Ages,'
he'd said, `It will only get dirty.'"
Connie Willis
*Doomsday Book*
Andy or Anne -- Andrew Paradise, Information/Reference Librarian, Medical
Librarian, and Children's Librarian by marriage: Anne Paradise, Children's
Librarian, mystery reader!
Gary Public Library andrew@gary.lib.in.us work
220 West 5th St. paradis@jorsm.com home
Gary, IN 46402 anne@gary.lib.in.us Anne
http://www.jorsm.com/~paradis/
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:40:35 1998
From: Melissa Karnosh <emmelisa@bc.seflin.org>
ubject: Re: Formal training for Children's librarians
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998, Elizabeth S. Gallaway wrote:
<snipped for brevity>
> Most of the things I learned in my children's & YA classes that were
> then benficial on the job were the introductions to classic books,
> awards, and collection development tools, and exposure to ALA's Bill of
> Rights and Intellectual Freedom issues. These are probably things I
> would have oicked up on the job, eventually. On the other hand, having
> to sit through classes in programming was tedious, since I already had
> experience in that area.
>
<snip>
> Beth G.
> Haverhill Public Library
> Havwerhill MA
> egallawa@concentric.net
>
>
Beth--
You are the sort of fellow student I wish I'd had more of when I was
taking my MLS classes! The students who were able to speak up in class
and tell the rest of us exactly where theory and reality bump up against
each other were incredibly valuable to me.
While I'm sure the classes you already knew a good deal about were rather
boring to you, chances are that you benefited other students in that
class. Sometimes we learn, and sometimes we teach--and we don't always
really know which we've done until later.
Melissa Karnosh
Head of Youth Services
Broward County South Regional/BCC Library
Broward County, FL
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:40:58 1998
From: "Kimberly Bears" <kimbat@hotmail.com>
Subject: Summer Reading Programs
Hi all,
I have been following this discussion for a week now and I am finally
going to add my two cents.
Libraries and summer reading have been an important part of my life for
as long as I can remember. I started out as a participant in summer
reading programs during my elementary days, moved on to helping out with
summer reading programs as a Library Assistant in my college days, and
now I coordinate my own summer reading programs, as well as help out on
the statewide summer reading program committee, as part of my
professional career. To me, summer reading is all about getting kids,
all kids (whether they are readers or non-readers) excited about books
AND libraries!!!
It's true that summer reading programs do attract more people to the
library, and as a result your statistics skyrocket during the summer
months. But, it doesn't end there!
I spend a good month every year promoting our summer reading program in
our three elementary schools.
(My co-workers say that I whip them all into a summer reading frenzy,
but hey, what's wrong with that?) I try to get across to the kids that
the library is a great place to spend (some) of their time during the
summer! We don't expect the kids to make the library the center of
their summer fun. We just want them to ADD the library to their list of
fun things that they will be doing this summer! I firmly believe that
if you can get them into the library as young children, and guide them
as library users, then you will have a library user/advocate for life!
When I talk to them I explain the importance of keeping up their reading
skills over the summer months. But, I also explain that we don't just
"sit around and read" for the whole summer either. We offer exciting
programs that spark their imagination and creativity, as well as try to
introduce them to different forms of literature (ie: fiction,
non-fiction, poetry, folktales) in a variety of ways (ie: storytelling,
story times, flannel tales, thinking activities that coincide with the
stories, etc.) We just plain out have fun! (And the fact that books,
reading, and the library are the focus of that fun is merely a bonus!)
As far as I am concerned, if I have one child that returns to the
library again and again after he/she participated in a summer reading
program, then, we did our job! We introduced that child to the
wonderful world of books and libraries, and we paved the way for that
child to become a life-long reader and library user. And, isn't that
what we're all about?
Well, I guess I've said it. I, myself, am so EXCITED that the summer
reading program is going to start! I wish you all "successful" summer
programs, no matter how you rate your success! Have a great day!
Kim Bears
************************************************************
Kim Bears Phone: (603) 432-1127
Head of Children's Services Fax: (603) 437-6610
Leach Library E-mail: kimbat@hotmail.com
276 Mammoth Road
Londonderry, NH 03053
______________________________________________________
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:55:50 1998
From: jaker@japl.lib.in.us (Julia Aker)
ubject: Stumper answer: Kings with super vision
This stumper dates back to February. Our patron remembered a book about 3
kings with super vision. Marie from Kansas City, Mo. P. L. gave us the
correct book. Our patron was thrilled! The book is Gillespie and the
Guards by Benjamin Elkin. The king (only one) offers a reward to anyone who
can fool his three royal guards who have super eyesight. It is a classic
"overlooking the obvious" story and kids don't usually get it til the
end.
Julia Aker, Director
Jackson County Public Library
303 W. Second St.
Seymour, IN 47274-2147
812-522-3412 ext. 223-voice 812-522-5456-fax e-mail: jaker@japl.lib.in.us
http://www.seymour.org/jcpl.htm
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:55:52 1998
From: Deborah_Dubois@freenet.richland.oh.us
Subject: Stumper-Kittybug
Has anyone heard of a children's book character called Kittybug? It is a cat
with ladybug-type wings. A friend's niece has drawn this character several
times with captions and everything, but my friend doesn't know where she got
it. She is trying to find out if the child saw it in a book or if it is
original. The child doesn't have good enough language skills to explain
where the character came from. I haven't heard of it, nor has anyone here at
our library. Have you?
Thanks,
Deborah L. Dubois
Children's Outreach Librarian
Mansfield/Richland County Public Library
deborah_dubois@freenet.richland.oh.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:55:48 1998
From: Elaine Williams <williael@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: RE: Smoke thanks
Thank you to all who contributed ideas on how to make smoke for a vacation
bible school production. The production is now over, and I will make a
list of your suggestions to post to PUBYAC. Thanks again, everyone!
Elaine Williams, Youth Librarian
williael@oplin.lib.oh.us
Lynchburg, OH
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:55:53 1998
From: brazell@InfoAve.Net
Subject: Ideas for Reading Club Activities
Hello,
As part of our summer reading program, I have a
reading club for middle schoolers that is focusing on horror and fantasy
fiction> I have a different theme for each meeting- folklore, origins of
classic movie monsters, dark fairytales, etc.- and do not have required
readings, but merely ask the participants to come ready to tell about
something they have read that week, even if it's a comic book.
I would appreciate any ideas for age-appropriate
games, brain teazers, etc., that I could work into the programs. I have
each program for the summer basically done, but would like to "flesh
out"
some of the latter ones and have some back-up (in case I BOMB). As always,
I am grateful for any and all responses.
Excelsior,
Robert Brazell
brazell@infoave.net
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:55:58 1998
From: Kate McLean <katem@mail.bulloch.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: Youth Services Librarian job : GA
The Statesboro (GA) Regional Library System seeks an enthusiastic,
service-oriented individual to oversee the Youth Services Department of
the headquarters library of a 5-county regional library system.
Statesboro is a community of about 25,000 approximately 50 miles west of
Savannah and is the home of Georgia Southern University. Salary range:
$34,935-51,026 DOE plus an excellent benefits package. Position
requires an ALA-accredited MLS and Georgia State Board Certification.
Responsibilities include children's and young adult programming,
collection development, reference, reader's advisory and supervising the
Youth Services Assistant and volunteers. Applicant must be able to work
one evening per week and every fourth Saturday. Must be familiar with a
broad range of information resources and comfortable in a team
environment. Must have a valid driver's license and personal
transportation. Ability to lift up to 40 pounds and push loaded book
trucks up to 100 pounds.
Please submit a cover letter, resume and three current letters of
reference to Gretchen Dombrock, Head of Public Services, Statesboro
Regional Library, 124 South Main Street, Statesboro, GA 30458. Position
open until filled. Desired start date: 09/01/98.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 18:56:00 1998
From: "Sharon Harvey" <sharvey@aplsweb.apls.state.al.us>
Subject: Job opportunity
Youth Services Consultant Job Announcement
The Alabama Public Library Service, the State library agency of
Alabama, is soliciting applications for a state-funded Youth Services
Consultant to coordinate the statewide summer library program, to
consult with libraries and library boards on development of children's
services and collections, to present workshops related to children's
services, to plan a major children's library campaign for the year
2000, and to consult on such related areas as policies, planning, and
evaluation. Since the Alabama Public Library Service was the first
state to enter into a partnership with the Gates Library Foundation to
provide public access to the Internet and other electronic resources
in public libraries, the consultant will work with libraries in
introducing children to electronic resources. Considerable travel is
required, including overnight trips.
The salary range is $34,606 - $52,676 and will increase by 8% on
October 1, 1998. Minimum qualifications needed to apply are:
master's degree in library science from a school accredited by the
American Library Association; and five years' professional library
experience in services to children and/or young adults. Valid driver's
license with good driving record is required.
The Alabama Public Library Service is located in Montgomery, the state
capital, and home of Maxwell Air Force Base, several state
universities and a number of other colleges. The Alabama Shakespeare
Festival is located in Montgomery.
The position will remain open until filled. To request an application
and further information regarding the Alabama Public Library Service,
call Jim Dismukes at 334-213-3900 or e-mail
jdismukes@apls.state.al.us.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 19:43:42 1998
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: Re: Casey's Insults
PU>I'm not going to re-copy here the post to Mr. Casey. However, with any
PU>post that is as vituperative as this post was, you all need to remember
PU>one thing:
PU>A flame is like a soliloquy: it says much more about the person writing
PU>the words than it does about the person it describes.
How true - and how nicely put. Let's drink to the art of being able to
discuss differences of opinion genteely...
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 20:43:39 1998
From: pbecks@mail.ms.falmouth.k12.me.us (Peggy Becksvoort)
ubject: Re: Flames and Insults
I can only agree with those who speak of moderation. The best response for
those who flame is " Thank you for sharing your anger."
Now, could we please ignore the further rantings of Mr. Burt whose purpose
is to derail our mission.
Thank you all, have a glorious summer, read a good book, take a deep
breath. And please, no flames for my suggestion of moderation.
Peg Becksvoort
Peg Becksvoort
Falmouth Middle School Library
52 Woodville Rd.
Falmouth, ME 04105
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 20:45:50 1998
From: SHERYL BAILEY <BAILEYS@charleston.lib.sc.us>
Subject: library scavenger hunt
We have a library scavenger hunt scheduled for later this summer, for children
ages 6-12. We've done several hunts in the past, so we have the 'how-to'
basics down. This summer, we'd like to do something a little different, but
we've run into a creative brick wall - can't really think of any way to enliven
the standard scavenger hunt ...
So, do any of you have any suggestions or practical ideas we could try? We are
somewhat limited, because the group will include non- and new readers. Also,
as much as we'd like to try it, an Internet scavenger hunt just isn't feasible
because we have only one Internet computer, and our policy requires signed
parental permission for minors (not looking for comments on our Internet policy
right now!)
While we can certainly stick with the tried and true, we're hoping one of you
might have some great, new idea we can try!
Thanks in advance!
Sheryl Bailey
Charleston County (SC) Public Library
baileys@ccpl.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 21:33:57 1998
From: "Bridgett Johnson" <bridgett@lewis-carnegie-library.org>
Subject: Teen Magazine Help
Help! I thought I could get into the archives and find the
discussions on teen magazines but I can't get in through the gopher.
I need the info by tomorrow.
Can any one remember the names of some of the good teen magazines
recommended from the discussions for both male and female. Names
would probably all that's necessary as we go through a jobber.
Please reply to me directly. THANK YOU!
Bridgett Johnson,Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library, 701 W. Main, Lewistown, Montana 59457
(406) 538 - 8559 bridgett@lewis-carnegie-lib.org
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 21:38:06 1998
From: JUDY SHERIFF <JSHERIFF@duluth.lib.mn.us>
Subject: Re: Syllogisms and netiquette -Reply
Of course we learn a lot on the job. We'd better, because so much
keeps changing! :-)
I didn't expect that library school was going to teach me all the
"practical"
stuff. What it did do was to provide the philosophical underpinning that
should be behind all the decisions we make and all the programs and
services we implement. We continue to need courses that directly relate
that philosophy to work with children and YAs.
And, I certainly agree with Chuck. Madison 20+ years ago was a GREAT
place to be. I think it still is.
Judy Sheriff, Youth Services Manager
Duluth Public Library
520 West Superior Street
Duluth, MN 55802
218/723-3817, fax 218/723-3822
jsheriff@duluth.lib.mn.us
>>> Guarria <cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us> 06/17/98 01:52pm
>>>
> > Woe unto us if our profession becomes viewed as one which can be
> > picked up on the job.
I know I'll probably get flamed for this, but I had to respond. In my
opinion, much if not most of what we learn is, in fact, learned on the
job. What we learn in library school, unfortunately, often does not
teach what you practically need to know. Which is why I thank my lucky
stars I began as a trainee. I think this is the case with many
professions. Schooling is terrific for teaching us certain things
(importance of good work habits, dealing with deadlines, how to make
the
most of our professional opportunities), and I know my reference
sources
class and literature classes were a tremendous help early on, but
there is always something more to be learned, another skill to acquire
which was not covered in library school.
Carrie Guarria
cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 21:43:39 1998
From: Angela Christianson <achristi@prairienet.org>
ubject: Re: Formal training for Children's librarians
I've had a different experience at the Graduate SChool of Library and
Information Science at the University of Illinois. This program offers
quite a few classes geared toward children's/young adult services such as
Library Materials for Young ADults, Library Materials for Children, Media
Programs, Storytelling and this semester History of Children's
Literature. An added plus is that U of I is the home of the Center for
Children's Books which publishes their bulletin. I would recommend this
program for thsoe looking to specialize in children's/youth services.
The distance program is an added benefit.
Angela Christianson
sig below
On Wed, 17 Jun 1998 schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us wrote:
>
> PU>Added to the lack of pre-graduation employment opportunities is the
> PU>lack of training being offered by Library (& Information) studies
> PU>programs. My alma mater (University of Michigan) currently offers
> PU>only one course that deals specifically with childrens & YA
services,
> PU>programs, and collections. Are other MILS programs also cutting back
> PU>on the number of youth services courses offered? If this is a trend
> PU>in the universities, I'm worried about what the future holds.
>
> PU>Any comments?
>
> PU>**************************
> PU>* Mindy Schafer *
>
> Mindy - if things have gotten this bad we should ALL be worried about
> what the future holds; when I went to Library School at the U. of Wis.
> 20 + years ago they did MUCH better by us and every year sent quite a
> few well qualified people off into the fray. I've often thought that
> our field would be especially well suited to an apprenticeship sort of
> approach; I'd like to see everybody take a certain core level of
> classes, and then spend a couple of years working for somebody
> experienced before heading off on their own.
>
> Chuck Schacht
> Romeo PL
> Romeo, MI.
>
>
>
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Angela R. Christianson
University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign
achristi@prairienet.org
achristi@alexia.lis.uiuc.edu
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 22:36:06 1998
From: SCHAFFNERP@aadl.annarbor.lib.mi.us
Subject: school and public librarians
I confess, there are postings I just don't read. I know what they will say
in advance. But I am terribly saddened when librarians downgrade other
librarians. School and public librarians have both chosen to serve the
underserved. We need to support each other in our choices, because--as has
been stated repeatedly--people who work with children (librarians, teachers,
pediatricians!) tend to be (as Will Manley said) equated with their clientele;
and the people equating have little or no respect for kids. So let us respect
one another.
I understand the anger Mr. Casey's numerous postings engender. But I think
most public librarians understand exactly what school librarians are up against:
lousy materials budgets, lack of respect, bus duty, staffing inequities, and
the ever-popular Library as a Terrific Place for Detention idea. As a
public librarian, i am always jealous of my school colleagues because their
year-long schedule matches my child's schedule much better than mine does.
I wish I didn't work at least one night a week every week all year long. I
also don't get as many two-day weekends as I would like. BUT my materials
budget is many many times that of my school colleagues'; I don't have to buy
to satisfy curriculum needs (although some of my purchases do just that); I
get to work with a much wider age range; and I am able to watch kids go from
toddlers to readers to (gulp) college kids. I would prefer not to work a
9 to 6 day (and I'm usually here by 8 or 8:30), but that's what this public
library does. And this was my choice.
i have tremendous admiration for the school librarians here in Ann Arbor. I
know we have had to give each other moral support more than once--and we've
also been able to share our success stories. I work hard. They work hard.
We all rejoice whenever a reader is born (at any age!).
Several posters to PUBYAC are passionately devoted to specific causes. Me, too.
I'm passionate about books and reading and connecting EVERYBODY with all the
wonderful children's books in the world. I love PUBYAC because it helps me make
some of those connections with my own patrons. I hope we can keep those patrons
firmly before us and be grateful for ALL the people in schools and public
libraries who are willing to servie them.
My apologies. I'll hop off the soapbox. And, oh, drat, now I'm spotting all my
typos. Sorry.
Paula Schaffner
Ann Arbor District library
Ann Arbor MI 48104
schaffnerp@aadl.annarbor.lib.mi.us
P.S. Anyone ever heard of a book (over 50 yrs old) nonfiction called Of Courage
and Valour/Valor? That's all the patron remembers. I've tried BIP and amazon.com
and B and T and Blackwell's.
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 22:39:49 1998
From: darcy stainton <darcysta@vpl.vancouver.bc.ca>
Subject: Quick Shadow Puppets
Like everyone else, I am always on the lookout for ways to offer quality,
literature-based programs with minimal prep time.
On occasion I present folk tales using shadow puppets. I use a theatre
that I laboriously constructed, and intricate cardboard puppets (that are
a real pain to cut out with an x-acto knife).
Last month I forgot my shadow theatre. Using objects at hand, I made a
theatre and puppets in ten minutes that worked quite well. Here's what I
did...
Materials:
T.V. size cardboard box.
Butcher's paper or plain newsprint.
Straws.
Plasticine, putty, or masking tape.
Tools:
Very bright desk lamp
Scissors
Coloured felts
To make the theatre...cut the top and one side off the box. You are left
with a box with a bottom, two sides and a front.
Cut a T.V. sized hole in the front of the box.
Cut a piece of newsprint to fit the hole. Use the felts to draw scenery
on the newsprint, then stretch it flat and tape it over the hole.
To make the puppets...find a book of silhouettes (I use books of
copyright free images for graphic artists -- like the Dover Clip Art
series).
Photocopy the silhouetted characters you need, using the copier to shrink
or enlarge, and setting it to extra-dark.
Cut out the silhouettes (you don't need to follow the borders of the
character -- just a big circle will do).
Use a piece of putty or rolled up tape to stick the cut-out on the end of
a straw.
To perform...set the lamp about a foot behind the screen.
Hold the silhouettes by the end of their straws, and press them to the
back of the screen.
If the images are dim, you may need to make darker silhouettes or use
tracing paper for your screen. (Or try a brighter light and a darker
room). (Or photocopy the silhouettes onto transparencies?)
Granted, it doesn't look as good as my original stage and puppets, but
the time savings are enormous -- plus, I've had several parents make them
with their kids -- an unexpected benefit, I guess, of using equipment
that is obviously unprofessionally made from simple things. For that
reason I've shelved my deluxe theatre and puppets for the time being.
If you've tried this previously, or give it a try now, please let me know
how it worked for you. I'd love to hear suggestions and ideas on shadow
puppets. Reply to me at darcysta@vpl.vancouver.bc.ca.
************
D'Arcy Stainton, Children's Librarian
Britannia Branch, Vancouver Public Library
Phone: (604) 665-2222
Fax: (604) 665-3523
www.vpl.vancouver.bc.ca
************
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From owner-pubyac@nysernet.org Thu Jun 18 22:43:46 1998
From: Maria Wegscheid <mwegsche@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: successful ya program
For those of you looking for a successful program for yas, I just did one.
Thanks to the inspiration and instructions from Mindy Schafer at the Novi
Public Library in Novi, Michigan, I just completed a tie-dying workshop
for 6 - 12 grades. Mindy posted instructions to pubyac back in January,
and I finally gave it a shot.
We had 40 students signed up for the program, and more were calling today.
Each student was instructed to bring a clean, white cotton t-shirt and a
plastic bag to carry it home. We supplied dye (Dylon cold water dye, as
per Mindy's instructions), rubber bands and help. I had 5 Teen Advisory
Board members helping. All the students were finished in about one hour.
I will definitely offer another program -- probably an all ages program.
The details of the program follow: this will get pretty lengthy.
I had the students come at assigned times; 10 students every 15 minutes.
I was in charge of mixing dyes, and had as much mixed in advance as was
feasible. I mixed them in gallon jugs, and then we poured them into
squirt bottles for the application to the t-shirt.
As per Mindy's instructions:
Use only 100% cotton shirts. Fold them like you're making a fan about an
inch wide. Then roll the inch wide strip up like a cinnamon roll. Hold
this together with rubber bands. The rubber bands will divide the roll
into pie-shaped pieces.
Squirt a different color dye into each section of the shirt. Soak it
thoroughly. We found it helps to stick your finger down between the folds
of the shirt and fill that space with dye. We dyed the shirts over
aluminum pans, so that, if the dye didn't get too mixed with other colors,
we could reclaim and reuse that dye.
We used plastic gloves. I got a bag of 100 at the dollar store for (you
guessed it) $1.
Let the shirts dry almost completely before you take the rubber bands off.
If you don't, the color will rub off the shirt onto anything it comes into
contact with--including itself.
Put the shirt in the dryer on high before washing to set the color. Wash
it before you wear it, and even then, wash separately.
I was planning on doing this outside, but the weather didn't cooperate.
Rather than have 40 kids have to reschedule for next week, we did it in
our loading dock -- which is quite large. It worked out VERY well.
This was a inexpensive program -- less than a dollar per participant. It
was easy to do and every shirt turned out great. Maybe they weren't the
way we thought they were going to be, but great nonetheless. Thanks again
to Mindy, her suggestions for using cold water dye (RIT is not a cold
water dye), milk jugs and squirt bottles saved the day.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maria J. Wegscheid
Bettendorf (IA) Public Library
mwegsche@libby.rbls.lib.il.us
Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of the
Bettendorf Public Library.
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