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Date: Thu, 2 Jul 1998 18:39:12 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #363
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 98 13:57:12 -0500
From: "Nadine Flores and Joel J. Rane" <expopkch@lapl.org>
Subject: Re: teenage harrassment
- -- [ From: Nadine Flores and Joel J. Rane * EMC.Ver #2.5.02 ] --
Greetings...
Even at this very moment an older patron is scolding two teenagers across
the library for their loud behavior.
If anyone has any really good mantras or breathing exercises to deal with
teenagers I am happy to hear them. This is a particularly touchy problem
for me, because as a teenager I was always very quick to get into fights
myself. When teenagers lip off to me, I am restraining an impulse to
respond in kind (which would rather shock them.) While a high school
librarian, the kids were always amused by my sudden furies, which put me in
good stead with them. In a public library, however, I have to maintain my
cool. The main problem, I think, develops when only one or two people on
staff make any attempt to keep order, while the rest surf the 'Net with the
resignation of a "Titanic" passenger. Then that librarian becomes the
"heavy". It's fun to watch them scatter when you come through the
door!
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> Date: Thu, 25 Jun 1998 16:07:26 -0400 (EDT)
> From: Guarria <cguarria@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
> Subject: Harrassment by patrons?
>
> Has anyone had problems of this magnitude, and what was done about it?
Luckily
> summer is here, but the beginning of the next school year will come soon
> enough. (We're right next to the middle school, by the way.) It doesn't
need to
> be said that not all the kids are so obnoxious, but the percentage of
"bad"
> kids in my library--or at least disturbing incidents-- seems to be
increasing
> at an alarming rate. (By the way, I've made an effort to provide a few
> after-school programs, but never really get much of an interest and it's
my
> feeling that the problem kids wouldn't attend anyway.) Any suggestions?
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Joel J. Rane and Nadine Flores
Children's Librarians
Exposition Park Dr. Mary McLeod Bethune Branch
Los Angeles Public Library
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What I am is what I am, you what you are or what?
- -- Edie Brickell
I yam what I yam and that's all that I yam.
- -- Popeye the Sailor
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 13:26:29 -0600
From: Sandy Farmer <sfarmer@hpl.lib.tx.us>
Subject: Re: Keyboards for children
Mouse's tails get clipped and trackballs get dirty or mysteriously loose
their balls. We switched to touchpads and love them. They are part of the
keyboard and work well.
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Name: Sandy Farmer
E-mail: Sandy Farmer <sfarmer@hpl.lib.tx.us>
Houston Public Library
Date: 06/29/98
Time: 13:26:29
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 12:26:05 +0000
From: Sarah Beaman-Jones <sarahbj@icon-stl.net>
Subject: Success stories
Hello! I've just joined this list serve and am looking for success
stories from libraries that have worked with high needs families. I am
preparing a presentation for the Missouri Summer Institute for non-MLS
library staff. Many of the participants are not college graduates and
are from small or rural libraries. My expertise lies in working with
high needs families in familiy literacy sites and recruiting
participants from clinics and WIC offices. What I'm looking for is:
1. programs that have successfully changed those typically underserved
populations into library users.
2. how to identify, attract and recruit at risk youth
3. how have you developed literacy programs
4. what agencies have you successfully partnered with.
I will be presenting this information in two hour anda haflf sessions on
Aug. 18 and 20. I will be happy to complile any information I receive
and pass it on to the entire list serve.
I'm looking forward to hearing of your successes! (I'm also interested
in any analysis of "failures".)
Sarah Beaman-Jones
Family Literacy Specialist
LIFT-MO
St. Ann, MO
1-800-729-4443
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Date: Wed, 01 Jul 1998 09:33:02 -0500
From: Rebecca Singer <rsinger@ala.org>
Subject: homeschooling -Reply
ALA Editions publishes a book entitled The Homeschooling
Resource Guide by Susan G. Scheps.
The book includes tips on serving homeschoolers, sources for
legal information and educational standards, descriptions of
and contact information for programs and services from
libraries, state, regional and national homeschooling
organizations and homeschooling resources.
It is $25 and 22.50 for ALA members.
The ISBN # is 0-8389-0737-7
The ALA order number is 0737-7-2054.
To order call 800-545-2433 and press 7.
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Date: Wed, 1 Jul 1998 08:42:45 -0700
From: "Michael Chunn" <Chunndaddy@worldnet.att.net>
Subject: LARGE PRINT SOURCE
Good Morning Pubyacers
We have a new patron that is 9 years old, and as his father said legally
blind. He is able to read books with very large print. Does anyone have a
source for large print children's books for the visually impaired?
Thank-you in advance for your help.
Roni Chunn
Bob Sikes Public Library
Crestview Florida
Beezus404@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:15:58 -0700
From: "Marge Fauver" <sbeast@rain.org>
Subject: Castle scavenger hunt
I think you might be referring to the Calgary Library site???
http://public-library.calgary.ab.ca/wrg/wrg98.htm
^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^
I am another like you... [Hopi Indian saying]
Marge Fauver, Supervising Librarian
Eastside Branch Library
1102 E. Montecito St.
Santa Barbara CA 93103
805.963.3727
Email: sbeast@rain.org
^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^o^
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 18:33:43
From: Jerri Garretson <jerri@spooky.manhattan.lib.ks.us>
Subject: Re: Children & YA Datbases Help! -- The sequal
We also were disappointed that Bowker was not going to include the same
databases as it had in the old Children's Reference Plus, though they ARE
including books out of print for a fair number of back years (not long
enough, but a help). We have elected to keep our Children's Reference Plus
in addition to the new Children's Books in Print disc . . . .but don't
consider that the best solution.
Jerri
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Jerri Garretson "Persist"
Head of Children's Services
Manhattan Public Library & North Central Kansas Libraries System
629 Poyntz Avenue
Manhattan KS 66502-6086
Email: jerri@manhattan.lib.ks.us
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 19:02:41 -0700
From: "Marin Younker" <marin@CI.TIGARD.OR.US>
Subject: try again at thanks for teen newsletters
i sent this to the list a couple o' weeks ago, but never saw it -
apologies if i was asleep at the wheel. i'd like to thank all the
librarians who sent me examples of youth advisory board newsletters.
some lurking on the list mentioned they'd like to know who sent me
samples and their email addresses. my idea group is motivated and
hopefully we'll create a worthy product :)
judy pietrobono (jmpietrb@infolink.org) at south brunswick library;
barbara borne at wallingford public library; tom reynolds
(edmref@sno-isle.org) at edmonds library; a mystery person at
burlington library; janet rosolanko (jan@eclipse.net) at bridge water
library; and terry hyer (terry, i would like your email - i won't be
at pnla) at marshall library.
thanks again all. marin.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
J. Marin Younker
Youth Services Librarian
Tigard Public Library
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 16:20:43 -0500 (CDT)
From: Maria Wegscheid <mwegsche@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: internet mentors
We are interested in assembling a group of young adults to act as
one-on-one mentors for younger children during our supervised internet
classes. I am also planning on finding one or two young adults to take
over maintenance and development of the young adult section of our web
page.
For those of you who have young adult internet volunteers, how did you
screen them? Do you have an application they fill out? What is your
training process? What releases do your volunteers need to sign or have
signed? Can you send me copies or descriptions of all of the above?
Thank you in advance for any information. I'll be happy to summarize and
post back to the list.
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Maria J. Wegscheid
Bettendorf (IA) Public Library
mwegsche@libby.rbls.lib.il.us
Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of the
Bettendorf Public Library.
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 15:47:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: wslope@teleport.com
Subject: Young Writers Response
I received some response from my request for Young Writers. Below
are the helpful suggestions for students that are interested in writing:
WebSites:
Poetry Pals:
www.geocites.com/EnchantedForest/5165/studentpoems.html#links
Positively Poetry:
advicom.net//~e-media/kv/poetry1.html
BlueJean magazine: www.bluejean.com (magazine recommended also)
Inkspot: www.inkspot.com/young/
ALSC sites:
www.kidpub.org/kidpub/
www.zen.org/%7Ebrendan/kids.html
www.ryzome.com/bits.htm
Magazines:
The Childrens Magazine -- Timed Resources, Inc. (phone 1-602-483-2100)
Young Voices (published in Olympia, WA)
New Moon Magazine
Hope this is useful info for others, it certainly was for me! Thanks.
Angela Reynolds
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West Slope Community Library
3678 SW 78th Ave.
Portland, OR 97225
phone: 503-292-6416 fax:502-292-6932
wslope@teleport.com
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 12:52:20 -0400
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: Harrassment by patrons?
>From your post, it sounds like the library is not getting its money's worth
out of the guards-- Isn't that what they are there for? Or are they there
to make sure little old ladies don't snitch recipes from Ladies' Home
Journal.
A staff meeting would help if you can all come up with a clear and quick
response to these kids. I agree with those who say no tolerance is the
answer.
I remember the first time I kicked kids out of the library I used to work
at, it was, in a way, exhilarating to be able to take action... Of course,
with all these nutball kids, fear for our own safety is valid. We need to
remember that the other kids who are good need us to be firm with the
rotten eggs.
I do think the security guards need to get tougher so that the rest of the
staff can do what they were hired to do!
Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:49:09 -0500
From: wteale@uic.edu (William Teale)
Subject: early literacy outreach
As a result of responses to a talk about preschoolers and literacy that I
gave at ALA a few days ago, I am in the process of writing an article for
_JOYS_ on the topic.
One of the points I am discussing in the article relates to public library
outreach efforts involving read aloud programs such as Beginning with Books
(Carnegie Library) or Project LEAP (Cuyahoga Library).
If you have printed materials related to a read aloud effort that you are
doing through your library (getting parents, grandparents, child care
professionals, preschool teachers, or others to read aloud), would you
please mail them to me or send me a website address OFF LIST that I could
access? I am trying to be sure I don't miss anything that's out there.
Thanks so much.
Bill Teale
Address to use:
William H. Teale
College of Education (M/C 147)
University of Illinois at Chicago
1040 West Harrison Street
Chicago, IL 60607-7133
William H. Teale
College of Education (M/C 147)
University of Illinois at Chicago
1040 West Harrison Street
Chicago, IL 60607-7133
(312) 996 4669 (voice)
(312) 413 8083 (FAX)
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Date: Mon, 29 Jun 1998 17:19:19 -0500
From: jstraight@hampton.lib.nh.us
Subject: Computer T-shirt transfers
PUBYACers,
I am looking for advice on using computer transfer paper to decorate
T-shirts. I plan on doing this as a craft with middle and junior
high students. It will be the first time for me and I've read about
some problems. Has anyone used the Hanes cool transfer sheets?
You may respond directly to me at jstraight@hampton.lib.nh.us
TIA
Joanne
Joanne Straight, Young Adult Librarian
Lane Memorial Library, Hampton, NH
603-926-3368
jstraight@hampton.lib.nh.us
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 10:51:12 PST
From: "Steven" <Steven@westlinn.lib.or.us>
Subject: State Library Associations & Internet Access
Here in Oregon our state library association (OLA) is working on
developing an official position statement on Internet access. Have
any other state library associations come out with similar
statements? I'd also be interested in hearing about state libraries
with official Internet access positions. The thinking in OLA is
that there will be state legislative battles next session to restict
Internet access and libraries in Oregon, and we need to decide and
declare where OLA stands before those battles begin. I'm a little
worried that the result will be a weaker statement than many youth
services people would wish for, so I'd love to gather examples from
other states. Thanks in advance...
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Steven Engelfried, West Linn Public Library
1595 Burns Streeet West Linn, OR 97068
ph: 503-656-7857 fax: 503-656-2746
e-mail: steven@westlinn.lib.or.us
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 17:34:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Susan LaFantasie <susanlaf@pcl1.pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: Internet use by non-patrons
Who decides what is "pornography"?
Susan LaFantasie, MLS
susanlaf@pcl.lib.wa.us
On Fri, 26 Jun 1998, Cindy Aliff wrote:
>
>
> >>> <Rsponaas@aol.com> 06/24/98 10:58AM >>>
> Regarding the recent posting on restricting internet usage to a library's
own
> patrons, Rae Kozloff <alib2@sos.net> wrote: "Our library
requires that
> Internet users be patrons of our library, so when visitors/tourists passing
> through town come in to read their email on the Web we have to turn them
> away...."
>
> I am a librarian at a city librarian and our policy is that patrons must
present their library card in order to gain access to the Internet. We have
other stations which have Searchbank and American Business Disc and other CD's
which patrons can just walk up and use.
>
> We do not have filters so parents must check off on their child's library
card application whether they have parental permission to use the Internet. In
that way, we place the responsibility for the child's Internet actions onto the
parent. We check each child's library card to make sure that they have
permission to use and place an Internet sticker on their card.
>
> We also do not allow chat or email on the computers and patrons can lose
their priviledges for one month. If they look at pornography on the Internet,
they lose their priviledges for two months and we call the parents of any youth
who break these rules.
>
> In this way, we are able to control some of the use of the Internet,
without just putting filters on the computers and expecting them to work all the
time. When we get their library cards we then know who is using the computer and
if there is misuse, we are usually able to find the culprit.
>
> Requiring a library card to use the Internet does not affect all patrons
from having access to the Internet. Our policy is that we allow anyone to get a
library card, even if they are from a different city, county, or state. We do
limit their checkout but they can get library cards and youth must have a parent
present to get a library card.
>
> We haven't had any major problems yet, but nothing is full proof and we
have had some problems, but mainly with teenage users.
>
> Cindy
>
>
>
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Date: Tue, 30 Jun 1998 09:07:02 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kate Carter <katec@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Re: Formal training for Children's librarians
I took a summer term off from library school to spend 20 hours a week at
an internship and it was the best part of my library education. I learned
so much from actually helping children's librarians order books, prepare
and present programs, and working at the reference desk. The librarians
made sure I got a lot out of my time there and also scheduled time for me
to talk to the adult reference and ILL staff and spend a day on the
bookmobile. Because I did my internship in my home town, far from the
library school which I attended, I did not receive any credit towards my
degree. Nonetheless, it was invaluable and worth more than some the
classes I did receive credit for.
The library school which I attended provided little, if any, programming
information and saw fit to cancel a storytelling class. The children's
literature professor had us reading only award winning books -- not
exactly practical in the real world. I went to my first job with the
internship as my only experience of the real world of public librarianship
and I am so glad I took the time for it. IMHO, internships should be
required. Theory and practice should be combined. It would better
prepare new graduates for their first job. Not everyone has the luxury of
going to a large system with several youth librarians to show them the
ropes.
Kate Carter, Youth Librarian
Multnomah County Library (503)248-5235 (v)
801 SW 10th (503)248-8000 (f)
Portland, OR 97205 katec@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us
On Sun, 28 Jun 1998, Anne Leon wrote:
> I have followed this ongoing discussion with interest. In our library
> system, all incoming new librarians in Youth Services are assigned for
> their first week to the Youth Services Dept. of the closest Regional
> library. There they are given intensive training by experienced staff,
> shadow staff for storytimes, and leave with stroytimes and craft patterns
> to get them started. They get a n overview of the BCL style of
> programming and our "100% customer satisfaction" style of
service.
>
> One week doesn't always feel like enough time, but in my experience, many
> of our youth Services staff bring other youth-related experience with
> them--former teachers, child-care worker background, etc--so the basics
> of relating well with children are there.
>
> Frankly, I'd love to see a Practicum class, similar to student-teachers,
> offered for those who think they'd like to pursue a career in Youth
> Services--or better still--to ALL candidates, in order to teach them the
> particular reference-interview skills they'll need when relating to young
> patrons on ANY job.--What a concept!!
>
> that's my story and i'm stickin' to it
> Anne Leon
> North Regional/BCC Library
> Coconut Creek, FL (Broward County)
> sweetie@bc.seflin.org
>
>
>
>
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