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Date: Fri, 10 Jul 1998 11:01:09 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #373
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 20:09:12 EDT
From: Evighet@aol.com
Subject: Mickey Crafts
We're going to celebrate Mickey Mouse's Birthday
in November. We already have songs, stories, and
a film, but we haven't been able to find any Mickey
related crafts or activities. General mouse activities
won't work because we already have a mouse
storytime scheduled for October. If anyone has any
ideas, we would greatly appreciate them.
Thanks so much!
Chris Jahnke
Children's Librarian
evighet@aol.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:58:26 -0400
From: "Tim and Scot Capehart" <capehart@ziplink.net>
Subject: RE: proper C.S. Lewis/Narnia order
The story goes: a young reader long ago wrote C S Lewis and asked which
order he/she should read the chronicles in because the order they were
published is NOT chronologically within Narnia. Lewis said it didn't really
matter, but he thought they should be read starting with the creation of
Narnia in The Magician's Nephew. In England subsequent printings of the
collection ordered them in that way. The numbering of the American editions
didn't change until the publisher changed a couple years ago. The new
editions have restored the illustrations (the American editions haven't had
ALL the illustrations for a while) and the character names (someone
somewhere thought Maugrim was too scarry for American children & changed his
name to Feneris Ulf)
The New numbering of the series is the one Lewis liked. (MN, LWW, H&HB, PC,
VDT,SC and LB) That will be chronological both within Narnia & in England as
well.
I read them both ways & I kinda liked the non-chronological way best. LWW is
a much more engaging read for young people than MN (although MN is MY
favorite).
Hope that answers you question!
Tim Capehart
tcapehar@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
Head Children's Services
Leominster Public Library
Leominster MA
AOEAMO!
"I got enough to do without chewing up food for monkeys." - Buddy
(1997)
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 16:31:56 -0600
From: Najma Karmali <NKarmali@publib.edmonton.ab.ca>
Subject: RE: Virtual Readers' Advisory Desk
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Najma Karmali
> Sent: Friday, July 03, 1998 12:02 PM
> To: 'pubyac'
> Subject: Virtual Readers' Advisory Desk
>
> The Edmonton Public Library are looking at setting up a Virtual RA
> Desk on our website, aimed at serving our own staff and the general
> public, that would need a moderator for a bulletin board where
> questions could be accepted, posted and answered. We have no idea how
> much time is involved in maintaining such a site. Are any libraries
> doing something like this at present or running listservs or vitual
> book discussion groups? I would really appreciate it if anyone is
> willing to share their experiences!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Najma
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 17:11:47 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kim Kietzman <kkietzma@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Storytime for grades 1-3
Hello - I've answered several of you directly but have not posted to the
list until now. I'm hoping someone out there has done a separate storytime
for 1st-3rd graders. This has gone over big during SRP, and I want to
continue it through the school year. However, a lot of the kids have
commented that they don't like the name "storytime" because that's for
little kids. Any real-life stories or good suggestions for what to call
it?
TIA, and please respond to me directly.
Kim Kietzman
Assistant Children's Librarian
Rock Island Public Library
401 19th Street
Rock Island, IL 61201
(309)788-7627
Opinions expressed are mine alone, and do not necessarily represent those
of the Rock Island Public Library.
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 20:03:09 -0700
From: Overmyer <overmyer@crl.com>
Subject: Re: More SR ponderings
Jan - This year, for the first time, the Berkeley Public Library in
Berkeley, CA is making up "grab bags" to give out to kids who miss the
deadline for completing the Summer Reading Game (August 15). We have our
Student Friends (ages 10-13) cut out fabric with pinking shears into 8 inch
squares, and then we enclose a very small gift, left over from one of our
previous summer reading games. It's too early to know how this will work,
and I'll admit that the motivation is to get rid of some of our leftover
prizes, so the tail is wagging the dog in this case. We certainly do have
kids complaining about missing the deadline, often because they're on an
extended vacation to France, or something, and we've never been real
sympathetic about this before, but with the Central Library's move to a
temporary location during a 2-year renovation project, we are being
conscientious about cleaning out our closets. For years, we have been very
out front about the last date, publish it in every flyer, on the outside of
the gameboard, remind kids whenever we see them, some of the small branches
even call kids who are just a tad away from finishing, to remind them to
come in before the deadline. But we still have the odd complaint.
So here's an alternative - a consolation prize. Perhaps it is setting a bad
example. However, we'll have fewer leftovers. ]
]Glad you started this thread. It's interesting
Elizabeth Overmyer
Doug and Elizabeth Overmyer
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 18:49:18 -0500
From: THRASHERS@JCL.LIB.KS.US
Subject: Bilbo Baggins Birthday Party
My dear Pubyacers,
I received some great ideas for Bilbo Baggins birthday party in September (the
22nd, mark your calendars!). In addition to the reader's theater play we will
be performing, here is a list of ideas that we might do as well:
1. birthday cake, preferably seed cake (Bilbo's favorite)
2. At a hobbit's birthday party, the birthday person gives gifts instead of
getting gifts. We'll be giving out some sort of gift or party favor.
3. Blank books, in which to write one's own "There and Back Again"
tale
4. Paper dragon, goblin, troll, elf, etc. masks
5. Paper towel tube swords
6. Pipe cleaner giant spiders
7. Make up riddles, tell riddles
8. Contact the Society For Creative Anachronism and have them come dressed in
Tolkienesque outfits and do their stuff.
9. Dress up as the characters from the books; for example, I'll be dressing as
Gandalf.
10. Serve a dragon shaped cake, served on a plastic shield, cut with a fake
sword, complete with arrow through the heart
11. Make a hobbit hole out of cardboard; play beanbag game of "through the
hobbit's hole"
12. Have a baby pool filled with torn paper and newsprint; hide a dime store
ring in the pool and play "Hunt the Ring."
13. Mushrooms are a hobbit's favorite food. Make or buy marzipan mushrooms,
paint them with food coloring.
Please don't stop sending your ideas! Thanks for everyone's wisdom and
creativity!
Shawn Thrasher
thrashers@jcl.lib.ks.us
Johnson County Library
Johnson County, Kansas
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 22:51:10 -0400
From: Regan DeFranza <defranza@northnet.org>
Subject: Slogans for house/home theme
Thanks to all of you who suggested slogans for the home/house theme I am
working on. There are so many good ones, now I have the problem of
which one to choose. I will share them all with my libraries for
inspriation. Thanks again!
- --
Regan DeFranza, Youth Services & General Consultant
North Country Library System
22072 County Route 190 P.O. Box 99 Watertown, NY 13601
phone: 315 782 5540 fax: 315 782 6883 email: defranza@northnet.org
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 10:14:59 -0700
From: Edmonds Reference Library <edmref@sno-isle.org>
Subject: Re: Toddler and preschool storytimes
Jan Wall wrote:
> Those of you who do toddler and preschool storytimes, do you do different
> things with them? To be clearer, do you have completely different themes,
> books, activities, or can you you dovetail some of your planning?
>
I use a few of the same books but find that the toddlers can't pay
attention for as long as the preschoolers, so I have to use shorter
stories for them. I do carry over my opening and closing fingerplay
games, slightly simplified for the toddlers. BTW, I find that Toddler
storytimes are harder to plan because there aren't as many good stories
in print for this age group, so I repeat stories from series to series
much more than for the preschoolers. HTH!
Jonathan Betz-Zall, Children's Librarian, Edmonds Library, Wash.
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 13:17:10 -0400 (EDT)
From: Cathy Sullivan Seblonka <cathys@uproc.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: snow, dragons and SRP
When we are planning a snow in July program we make snowballs in
the winter and keep them in everyone's freezers until the summer. Everyone
loves to see a real snowball in July. (They do become a bit harder than
they were in the winter.)
Last summer we had a dragon parade. We saved plain grocery bags (bags
without the store name on them) and each child received one.
They cut out eye holes (arm holes if necessary), decorated them, added
streamers, etc. Then they put them over their heads and shoulders and
walked in a parade through and around the library. We had made a
wonderful, fierce dragon head out of posterboard and cardboard to lead
and a tail to end the segmented dragon.
This summer we are counting neither books nor time. We created a check
list of over 50 items in three categories: Where do you read? (Upstairs,
in bed, with a friend, etc.) When do you read? (At breakfast, when it's
hot, while waiting, etc.) and What do you read? (Something old, newspaper,
learn a new skill, etc.) When the participant has checked off 30 items on
the list, they fill out the coupon at the bottom and return it to the
library to be entered in a prize drawing at the end of the Summer
Reading/Listening Program. They can receive a new check list when they
bring in their coupon. (I like Marge Loch-Wouters idea about adopting
a whale and will plan on this for next summer, although maybe it won't
be a whale. Maybe a moose or wolf at our state park. Or perhaps we could
adopt a library hit by floods or tornadoes.)
Cathy Sullivan Seblonka
Youth Services Coordinator
Peter White Public Library
217 N. Front St.
Marquette, MI 49855
(906) 228-9510
fax (906) 228-7315
e-mail: cathys@uproc.lib.mi.us
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 13:00:26 -0500
From: Marleen Watling <MWATLING@flower-mound.com>
Subject: Summer Reading Program--easy way?
We have the children list 10 books on their reading log--allowing them to count
a book for more than 1 book, at their discretion. I tell them that our goal is
to have them read all summer and if a book takes them a couple of weeks to read,
they can count it for 2 or 3 books by using brackets. One second grader read
half of a dinosaur book in two weeks and wanted to finish it. He was thrilled to
get 5 book "credits" and finished the book. (One 7th grader read
Treasure Island and gave himself 10 book credits--fine by me!)
I don't like keeping track of minutes, and I have many children and parents who
are grateful that they don't have to "watch the clock".
Whatever works!
Marleen Watling
Youth Services Librarian
Flower Mound Public Library
mwatling@flower-mound.com
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Date: Wed, 8 Jul 1998 12:08:54 -0500 ()
From: Mary Jackson <mjackson@neon.nlc.state.ne.us>
Subject: Forwarded message
I am forwarding this question for a local librarian. If anyone knows of
or has experience with this "game" please respond to Carol.
Thanks,
Mary Jackson
Nebraska Library Commission
Date: Tue, 07 Jul 1998 17:22:50 -0500
From: bruunlib@navix.net
To: ready@neon.nlc.state.ne.us
Subject: Phonics Game
From: Carol Glathar
Email: bruunlib@navix.net
Tuesday, July 7^Has anyone heard of the Phonics Game put out by ^Better
Way
of Learning? I have a patron curious^if it is all that it is "cracked"
up
to
be. ^Rush Limbaugh and Steve Brown(radio announcer out^of Omaha) really
brag
it up.^Your comments would be helpful!^Thank You!
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 08:40:09 PDT
From: "Heather McNeil" <lassie2tel@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Bed-wetting books request
Several years ago I was searching for books on bedwetting, and
discovered they were under the subject heading of
"urine--incontinence."
I complained loudly, and we changed it to the obvious subject that
everyone knows--bedwetting. The other subject is "enuresis."
Some titles are:
Dry Days, Wet Nights, by Maribeth Boelts, published by Whitman, 1994.
Dry All Night, by Alison Mack, published by Little,Brown, 1989.
A Parent's Guide to Bedwetting Control, by Nathan Azrin, published by
Simon and Schuster, 1979.
Mike, by Margaret Marshall, published by Bodley Head, 1983
Hope these help.
Heather McNeil
Lassie2tel@hotmail.com
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 12:55:33 -0500 (EST)
From: AJORDAN@Queens.Lib.NY.US
Subject: Re: Formal Training for Chil. Librarians
Thanks, Kate, for your tactful disclosure! And yes, I agree that internship is
an essential for all librarians -- not just us Youth Servicers.
I think we all realize that some library schools are stronger than others in
my
any given specialty, and that these strengths do alter over time. I know that
my choice of So. Carolina was quite deliberate, and my deliberation proved to
be most worthwhile.
- --Andy Jordan
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Date: Wed, 08 Jul 1998 12:20:49 -0700
From: Susan Creed <screed@spokpl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Toddler and Preschool storytimes
I like to plan one theme per week and use some of the same books and/or
flannelboards for all three of my storytimes which include Toddler (ages 18
mos. - 3 yrs.--20 minutes), Evening (all ages--30 minutes) and Preschool (3
to 5 yrs., 30 min.) and a daycare storytime if I'm doing one that week. We
do not have a set up that allows me to include these ages exclusively; the
reality is that there are some kids at both toddler and preschool
storytimes that are not the age intended for that session. This is a
shame, but inevitable for the reality of family situations today and our
desire to not have to register, etc., for storytimes.
The only comment that I would add to the other comments regarding the
differences between toddler and preschool storytimes is the subject matter.
If I want to do space travel, for example, with preschoolers, I choose
another subject that week for the toddlers because space travel is an alien
concept for two year olds. The same goes for subjects like pirates,
chidren around the world, and various others. Keep to immediate reality
for toddlers--animals, family, transportation, colors.
"Storytimes for Two year Olds" by Judy Nichols is a wonderful resource
for
toddler times. There is a brand new edition of this. Her first book was
my bible when I began doing toddler times over 10 years ago. Also--I
always do a flannelboard and almost always a song with toddlers but not
always with preschoolers.
Susan Creed
Spokane Public Library
Spokane, Washington
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 11:09:49 -0400 (EDT)
From: Becky Tatar <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: SR ponderings
>So, now the question. How do other libraries balance the needs and
>abilitites of older kids and the pre or beginning readers? I don't want to
>do a 2 tiered program. Our SR desk is staffed almost entirely with
>volunteers, and it can't be too complicated. (Plus the patrons get confused,
>and who can blame them?)
Dear Jan - We ran into a similar problem with preschoolers last year when we
went to counting time for the first time. Everyone could read for at least
3 hours a week, and hand in a time sheet. They could only hand in 1 sheet
per week. I wouldn't say they were complaints, but we had a lot of comments
from parents of preschoolers that three hours of reading was a lot! for a
preschooler, considering the types of books they listened to and all. So,
we went to 2 hours for preschoolers and children in the Read to Me program,
while everyone else is still at 3 hours a week this year. So far, I don't
think we have had many complaints on this.
It's too bad about the one parent wanting SRC to be stricter. Perhaps
explaining to her again that SRC is to promote reading over the summer in a
fun way, and to continue to use the library would help. Hope this helps.
- -----------------------------------
Becky Tatar
Unit Head, Periodicals/Audio-Visual
Aurora Public Library
1 E. Benton Street
Aurora, IL 60505
Phone: 630/264-4100, x4116
FAX: 630/896-3209
e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us
Opinions are my own.
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 14:20:28 +0000
From: "Mary Moody" <mmoody@vigo.lib.in.us>
Subject: Internet Homework Fun
Greetings,
I will be doing a workshop entitled "Homework Fun on the
Internet"
Has anybody got any ideas of how to share homework sites yet make the
experience fun? Any suggestions would be appreciated.
Thanks in advance,
Mary Moody
Children's Librarian
Vigo County Public Library
\o/ \o/ \o/ "Let everything that hath breath Praise the Lord!"
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 12:16:15 -0500
From: Williams <Dorothy@peabody.whitleynet.org>
Subject: Re: Sparky and Eddie and the First Day of School
Thanks to everyone who responded. We all remembered the rhino beetle, but the
book had been checked out and we couldn't find it in our catalog by putting in
rhino beetle. I don't know why catalogers don't think of these things. The book
came in the afternoon after I posted my request. None of us could thing of the
boys names or the author. Thank you for your input. The book came back and
Allison was thrilled to come in the same afternoon to pick it up.
Thanks.
Dorothy
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 12:52:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us>
Subject: Inexpensive hourglass
I've been reading with interest the comments on Summer Reading Programs
using time as the marker for rewards and enticements. Does anybody know
of a source for inexpensive old-fashioned hourglasses that could be given
out at SRP registration? You can't rush an hourglass? Maybe, just maybe,
the kids will get so wrapped up in their reading that they forget to stop
when the sand runs out. - jeri
Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller
jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us
Columbus Metropolitan Library
Columbus, Ohio
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Date: Thu, 9 Jul 1998 17:25:57 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gayle Richardson <grichard@spl.org>
Subject: Re: SR ponderings
Without going into cases/philosophy too deeply, when promoting the reading
club for my system, I always stress to the kids that the books should be
on their READING LEVEL/'WHAT'S COMFORTABLE FOR YOU'. I had a wonderful
response from fourth and fifth graders this May to versions of THESEUS AND
THE MINOTAUR and THE CYCLOPS by Leonard Everett Fisher and would be happy
to count those for books read at that level.
PS I meant to continue the first part of the above with the phrase..."
they can be long, they can be short, they can be in-between. No fair
reading HOP ON POP if that's too easy for you." The kids always seem
to understand exactly what I mean, and during the course of the summer
I truly get virtually no feel that kids are scamming me. The rare times
I do note that a child has written down what seems possibly way-
to-easy-stuff, I always tend to say something positive about them, but
add "You might want to try some longer stories. Can I help you find
some today?" Gayle Richardson SEattle PUb.
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 11:25:58 -0700
From: Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
Subject: Teenagers and their conduct
Apparently problems with teens are nothing new:
"In 1963...a Pennsylvania public library banned junior and senior high
school students from using the library's reference and reading rooms.
'The purpose of the public library is to serve those mature adults who
use it for their personal needs, entertainment, and for business
purposes,' the librarian told the local newspaper. Too many teenagers,
she argued, were in the library only to 'see how far they can go' in
disturbing adult patrons."
Source: "This Month 108 Years Ago" by Wayne Wiegand, American
Libraries,
April 1998
However, I'd be willing to bet that none of those teens in 1963 swept
materials off the shelves, swore at the librarians, peed on a bush by
the door after being removed from the library, then threw a rock through
the library window, as was recently described on pubyac.
Jean Hewlett
North Bay Cooperative Library System, Santa Rosa,CA
All opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employers.
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:22:29 +0000
From: Sarah Beaman-Jones <sarahbj@icon-stl.net>
Subject: At Risk Youth
Recently I posted a request for success stories from librarians reaching
out to high needs families and at risk youth. I was asked to expand on
what I meant by those phrases. I've been thinking about how to condense
a two day workshop into a few sentences without much success. Some
attempts:
1. Using Maslow's Hierachy of Needs, we refer to people who do not have
their physiological, security orsocialization needs met which means they
have no time to work on esteem and self-actualization. (Abraham Maslow
"Toward a Psychology of Being")
2. In Missouri, 40 % of the adults are on the lower two (of five)
levels of literacy. Children of those adults who have not graduated
from high scholl are 6 times more likely to drop out of school
themselves.
3. "High needs" , "at risk" and "hard to reach"
are all terms that
refer to families under financial stress or are isolated socially or are
living in a dangerous environment . For many of these families, the
lack of ability to make choices is an overriding factor.
4. We all are hard to reach at times. Parents As Teachers" (PAT)
training script for these families reminds us of an old Chinese proverb,
"Nobody's family can hag out the sign : Nothing the Matter Here."
Hope this begins to clarify the audience I'm working toward.
Any successes on increasing their library usage?
Sarah Beaman-Jones
Family Literacy Specialist
LIFT-MO
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Date: Thu, 09 Jul 1998 10:18:55 -0700
From: "Carrie Eldridge" <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Middle school problem
It's really great to hear about such a 'success' story and the cooperation
of the school and police. I hope the branch manager -Bobbie Daniel will
consider writing this up for some library journal. I have heard other
librarians talk about similar problems but they had no solutions. What a
wonderful inspiring story! thanks!
Now I have a different problem I would like to discuss. It has to do with
falling stats in the children's room. This has happened in the last year.
I don't think it has anything to do with me since I have been here only a
short time. I have spoken to another children's librarian in a nearby
library system and she says their stats are falling too. I would like to
hear from other library systems to see if this is happening other places.
The director at this library seems to feel that kids aren't reading as much
anymore and computers are taking them away from books (although computers
require you to read too!). I fear these stats will be used to cut
children's services in the new planning process we will be going into in
the fall. I need some help to fight this.
By the way this library has not had consistent children's services for many
years (large turnover).
I offer a weekly preschool storytime/monthly lapsit and a summer reading
program. I have also visited almost all the preschools on the island,
visited the elementary, middle school and high school classes and they have
visited the library. (The middle school and high school kids can walk to
the library). I do feel that islanders really want an active children's
services program and will be quite upset if services are cut. I don't
believe one years stats really mean anything - the main drop is in picture
books check out. As you know preschoolers don't come in on their own.
There use to be one large preschool on the island and it closed down. Now
we have a lot of small preschools on the island and they do not have
transportation to the library. Next year Head start will lose their little
bus because the state says it is not safe. So they will have the same
problem.
Any help you give me will be greatly appreciated. I would like to see a
full discussion on the importance of statistics on this listserv.
Carrie
Carrie Eldridge
San Juan Island Library District
Friday Harbor, WA 98250
celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us
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