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Date: Thu, 16 Jul 1998 15:19:31 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:09:18
From: ckindt@usa.net
Subject: lyrick pub.
Hello, I had quite a few requests for the number of Lyrick publishing and my
e-mail is taking forever so I will post it to everyone. It is 800-527-5030 and
wishbone is by the imprint Big Red Couch. I hope this helps.
Clare Kindt
Brown County Library
ckindt@usa.net
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:21:53 -0400
From: Kristen Kepler <KKEPLER@ccsd.edu>
Subject: RE: Inexpensive hourglass
Try a dollar store! Our dollar stores often sell 3 or 4 items for a
dollar and the egg timers you mention are a hot item in our dollar
stores. Good luck!
K Kepler
NPL
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:29:14 -0400
From: Kristen Kepler <KKEPLER@ccsd.edu>
Subject: RE: Storytime for grades 1-3
Why not call it "Super Stories" or "Terrific Tales"? I think
that it
sounds more fun.
Good Luck!
Kristen Kepler
NPL
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:11:42 -0400
From: Kristen Kepler <KKEPLER@ccsd.edu>
Subject: RE: summer reading--10 hours too much?
At our library we still have our children report on individual books
that they have read and have chosen not to switch over to "time." We
could not agree on a fair amount of "time." Children, of course, are
all
different and we could never agree on something that would work for ALL
children. We instead encourage the children in our summer reading
program to do their best and we reward each child with a sticker for
each book that they have reported back to us on.
After reading 5 books (this may take a week or a couple of days) each
chid receives a small prize. There is no reward or prize given for the
person who reads "the most" books or for who reads for the longest
amount of time. Instead we try to instill in children that it is just
important to read and that they should read everyday.
Children win prizes by chance. If they report on one book or ten books,
they get one piece of paper to put in the "fishbowl" and names are
drawn
for a weekly prize.
Kristen Kepler
NPL
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 11:07:21 -0500 (CDT)
From: "Jane M. Whiteside" <jmwhiteside@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Workmanager System by Rubbermaid
We are considering purchasing the Workmanager System by Rubbermaid, with
the Corner keying unit and the adjustable keyboard. They
are listed in the Demco 1998 catalog on page 591, as well as carried by
other vendors such as The Library Store. These would be
for use as Public Computer, Internet, and Pac stations in large very busy
children's department. Does anyone have these in their building? How long
have you had them? What if any problems have you had related to strength,
durability, ease of use of the adjustable keyboard? Do
you have problems with graffiti on these units? Since they are the
plastic, do the kids kick them and make noise? Where do you put the
CPU's or Towers? Any comments would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in
advance.
Jane M. Whiteside
Head of Children's Services
Fountaindale Public Library District
Bolingbrook, IL
jmwhiteside@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 12:45:46 -0400
From: Bonnie Lalor <bonnie.lalor@kplus1.aces.k12.ct.us>
Subject: Re: hello/goodbye songs
schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us wrote:
>
> PU>I am interested in opening and closing storytime rituals/songs/poems.
I
> PU>checked the archives and found one ("Here is my book, I open it
wide..."
> PU>and a reference to a hello/goodbye song. Would any of you please
share
> PU>your rituals/songs with me? Thank you!
>
> PU>Patty
>
> PU>Patricia Hay
> PU>hayp@snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us
I start with "Clap your hands, clap your hands just like me
shake your head, shake it just like me
tap your knees, tap your knees
tap them just like me
clap your hands, clap your hands clap them just like me
now quietly we will be"
When leaving we sing:
"It's time for us to wave good-by
wave good-by, wave good-by
It's time for us to wave good-by to all our good friends"
The fist time I sing the song softly
then we sing it as lound as we can (the children love it)
I hope this helps,
Bonnie lalor
Blackstone Library , Branford, CT
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 13:22:27 -0500 (CDT)
From: Trudy Terry <tterry@hpl.lib.tx.us>
Subject: hand stamps
I have just discovered that purple will not show up on children with less
than very white skin. Does anyone know of a source for non toxic colored
ink pads so far the only ones I have found are by Stamp Affair and only
turquoise shoes up well on all shades of skin. Thanks Trudy Terry
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 15:18:33 EDT
From: Storylady1@aol.com
Subject: Re: CD-Rom Collection
Our library has had great success with these titles:
Oregon Trail
Elmo's Preschool
Gizmos and Gadgets
Sim City
Grammar Rock
Alaphabet Express
On the flip side here are a few that have not left the shelf for check out
one time:
National Geographic's The History of the Presidents
Middle Ages Interactive CD-ROM
Music Central (We were surprised about this one!)
Mammals
Hope this helps in your search!
Tricia
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 14:29:09 -0500
From: "Mary J. Soucie" <mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: Home/Books theme...
Chuck,
I love the song of your local warbler! Keep forwarding his beautiful
words! :-)
Mary J. Konieczka
Youth Services Consultant
Heritage Trail Library System
mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 16:25:21 -0500 (EST)
From: AJORDAN@Queens.Lib.NY.US
Subject: encouragement of young readers
On July 13, Lu Benke posted a very valuable (for me) message about
encouragement of young readers. Lu touched on so many aspects of the effort,
and I feel she ought to give herself more credit for being up to snuff on the
latest research. Yes, we all ought to be up to snuff as well. Lu mentioned
SRC, lap-sit, writing activities, parental modeling, day care/summer school
relations, among others. What I wonder, is . . . Are crafts all that important
for the library, the kids, and their reading? I admit that I'm not a gifted
craft-person (capable, yes--gifted, no), so maybe my question stems from lack
of confidence in this widely-accepted Youth Services activity. Tell you the
truth, I can understand writing, music, call-and-response, movement/dance, and
elementary drama as reading enhancements before I get the craft connection.
--Waiting for some crafty responses,
--Andy Jordan
Queens (NY) Library
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:34:47 +1200
From: Marie Gradon <mariegr@tauranga-dc.govt.nz>
Subject: RE: hello/goodbye songs
This routine is really successful for my sessions. To the tune of the farmer
in the dell.
My hands say hello x3.
Everytime I see my friends my hands say hello.
This is done holding hands.
At the end we wave goodbye singing
My hands wave goodbye x2.
When it time for us to go my hands wave goodbye.
Marie Gradon Young Peoples Librarian Tauranga New Zealand.
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> From:
> schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us[SMTP:schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us]
> Reply To: pubyac@nysernet.org
> Sent: Tuesday, 14 July 1998 10:06
> To: pubyac@nysernet.org
> Subject: hello/goodbye songs
>
>
> PU>I am interested in opening and closing storytime rituals/songs/poems.
> I
> PU>checked the archives and found one ("Here is my book, I open it
> wide..."
> PU>and a reference to a hello/goodbye song. Would any of you please
share
> PU>your rituals/songs with me? Thank you!
>
> PU>Patty
>
> PU>Patricia Hay
> PU>hayp@snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:29:19 -0700
From: "Pat Lambirth" <lambip@capecod.net>
Subject: Re: Tie Dying
Hi,
Can you give the info for contacting Dharma Trading?
TIA
Pat Lambirth
Children's Librarian
Sturgis Library
Barnstable, MA
(Cape Cod, MA)
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 22:32:39 -0700
From: "Pat Lambirth" <lambip@capecod.net>
Subject: Re: CD-Rom Collection
Our CD-ROMs do not circulate, but the HOTTEST title is Oregon Trail II. The
kids play it on a MAC in the Children's area.
Pat Lambirth
Children's Librarian
Sturgis Library
Barnstable, MA
(Cape Cod, MA)
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 19:55:35 -0700 (PDT)
From: Susan LaFantasie <susanlaf@pcl1.pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: PORNOGRAPHERS USE LIBRARY TO ATTACK COMMUNITY STANDARDS
Anyone can make a defense . . . that does not mean the courts will
necessarily agree with it.
Susan LaFantasie, MLS
susanlaf@pcl.lib.wa.us
On Sun, 12 Jul 1998, Filtering Facts wrote:
> PORNOGRAPHERS USE LIBRARY TO ATTACK COMMUNITY STANDARDS
> http://www.filteringfacts.org/arizona.htm
>
> FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
> Monday, July 13, 1998
>
> Contact: David Burt
> David_Burt@filteringfacts.org
> 503 635-7048
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 17:19:48 -0500
From: Andrew Finkbeiner <ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us>
Subject: RE: Summer Reading and Research
Lu Benke brings up two points in her post that I think need more
exploration (and action.)
1. Alfie Kohn's book, "Punished By Rewards." I asked this question
last year and got no responses, so I'll ask it again: Has anyone
designed a summer reading program that does not rely on prizes, awards,
or goodies of any kind as incentives? A club that is based solely on
the intrinsic satisfaction of reading? We've invested so much time
developing programs that rely on extrinsic rewards as motivators--and
we've gotten so good at it-- that I wonder if we can imagine a program
without them. What would such a program look like? If you haven't read
Punished By Rewards, it's worth reading. If you have, it's worth
re-reading.
2. Research about library use to secure funding and legislative
support.
Lu wrote, "their reply is frequently 'Prove it with statistics, not
anecdotal accounts.' Is this why we get passed over when politicians
talk about agencies that should be supported in their efforts to
encourage young readers? Perhaps if we had the time and access to
reading research, we could both improve our programs and prove to the
powers-that-be that we are doing it right."
I think the world of children and libraries needs a research program
driven by a credible RESEARCH AGENDA. This agenda would be a list of
questions that we need answered about what difference library services
make in the lives of young people and families. This agenda should be
tied somehow to funds that would be used to support the research through
grants. I think this work could be done through our associations (ALSC,
AASL, YALSA) and I think interested librarians and those universities
with excellent children's services tracks should design and implement
research studies to meet the research agenda. That way, we would build
a body of research that pertains specifically to the way library
services impact the lives of children and families. Trying to answer
these questions obliquely by using research from other disciplines is
frustrating and not usually satisfying. Can anyone else relate to this
idea?
Andrew Finkbeiner
Rockford (IL) Public Library
andrew@rockford.lib.il.us
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:41:57 -0400
From: Kristen Kepler <KKEPLER@ccsd.edu>
Subject: RE: CD-Rom Collection
We find that Encarta Encyclopedia, World Book Encyclopedia, Eyewitness
Encyclopedia of Nature, Kid Pix and My First Incredible Amazing
Dictionary are very popular. Encarta Encyclopedia is essential!
K Kepler
NPL
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:54:20 EDT
From: Pealib@aol.com
Subject: Re: hello/goodbye songs
I use the following for my closing:
Our hands say, "Thank You" with a clap, clap, clap.
Out feet say, "Thank You" with a tap, tap, tap.
Clap, clap, clap, tap, tap, tap,
we roll our hands and say, "Goodbye!"
The kids of course clap on the claps and stomp their foot on the taps. They
then roll their hands and wave on the goodbye. It works very well.
Erin M. Gallagher
Head of Youth Services
Peabody Institute Library
Peabody, MA
http://www.peabodylibrary.org/children
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 10:02:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mary Johnson (amk)" <mjohnson@wlsmail.wls.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Filtering in libraries
I have never sent a message of this kind to the list before, but the last
tow posts about filtering the internet really bothered me, especially
that by the librarian who felt compelled to give up her job because of
the lack of filtering. I felt very sorry for her as I read her story,
but at the same time, I had to ask myself, why is this issue always
presented as either-or, black or white? If some kid called up and asked
*me* if he could look at pornography in the library, I would answer, "We
do have internet access, and you can come in and use it whenever you
like, but if you bother other patrons while you're browsing, we'll have
to ask you to leave." In other words, a patron reading a "dirty"
book
off in the corner by himself is ok - someone flaunting pictures in the
middle of the library is not. (I must say, I also wondered if it was
really a kid calling! Seems a pretty sophisticated little demon to me -
maybe it was actually a member of family friendly libraries!)
As to the bookstore, it seems to me the pornographers have a pretty weak
case. The main purpose of such a store is to disseminate pornography,
but, contrary to what some people think, the main purpose of the internet
is not to disseminate pornography. It's to disseminate information of
all kinds, and began, as I understand it, as a means of conversation
between professionals in the govt. and universities.
Just my two cents - I could go on, but I don't want to make this really
long. To finish, I do see the problem, and personally would have no
problems with a filter in the children's room, but I also believe a
library *must* offer its patrons at least one unfiltered terminal.
Otherwise we will be denying our patrons access to information they may
need - and this will obviously affect the poor more than the rich, who
have internet access already.
Mary Johnson (mjohnson@wls.lib.ny.us)
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:22:05 -0700
From: Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
Subject: Looking for Information about YA State Chairs
I am currently Chair of ALYAS (Arizona Librarians for Young Adult
Services), a roundtable of the Arizona Library Association. I am finding
the experience of being an officer for our state-level association
enlightening, interesting and enjoyable. It is giving me an opportunity to
share my knowledge, expertise and leadership ability in advocating for YAs
as well as a chance to learn a great deal about how our state association
operates.
I have decided I would like to write an article about serving as ALYAS
Chair and being the YA representative on our state association's executive
board. I thought I would include information about what is going on (or
not) in other states as well. I am hoping anyone out there who is involved
in your state association will respond to a request. I am hoping to get a
response from as many states as possible. I would like to know which states
have a YA division, roundtable or other group that functions as part of the
state library association, or if the YA division is included in a general
youth services/children's division rather than having a seperate YA one. I
would also like to know which states do not have any kind of division, etc.
in their state association specifically for librarians working with teens.
For those of you who have active YA divisions, roundtables, etc., please
let me know what kinds of work you are doing in your group and what role
your group plays on your state executive board.
Please e-mail me directly with your replies. Thanks for any input you can
give!
Diane Tuccillo
Senior Librarian/Young Adult Coordinator
Mesa Public Library
64 East First Street
Mesa, AZ 85201
602-644-2735
Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 09:12:30 -0800
From: youthser@neill-lib.org
Subject: RE:Re Falling Stats in J Area
Re Falling Stats in J Area
I am so glad you brought this subject to our forum.
We have also been experiencing a gradual decline in the J Circulation. Mind
you, our library boasted the highest percentage of J Circ of any public
library in the state a few years back - 60% of total - as much a function of
a not so healthy adult area as anything. With new adult services staff the
percentages are equal (50/50) but that has included a drop in actual numbers
in the J Area...seems to be across the board in F/NF with Picture Books only
dropping slightly.
I am very interested in what the reasons might be, and have been tracking
all the variables closely. The schools also report that leisure reading is
down at the elementary level. Our staff is spending more time doing "off
site outreach" (storytimes, etc) but that doesn't necessarily translate
into
increased circulation. I am going to go back and look at circ figures for
the past couple of summers only, and at this year too, since our SRC
enrollment has been steady...see if the same number of kids are borrowing
fewer books, or if the summer J circ has remainded steady but rest of the
year has dropped.
There are certain areas of the JNF collection that have dropped more than
others - some of these can be explained by a couple of schools not doing
science fairs this past year due to construction; kids taking some of the
standard report info (i.e. states) off of CD products or Internet...others
are not so obvious.
I look forward to input from others to help me think about this. I am sure
that we need to provide a variety of statistical measures, including Circ,
to demonstrate the changing patterns of library use/service priorities. And
I am thinking that perhaps a school-year "reading club" approach might
be
effective, working with the school libraries.
I am also most willing to look critically at what I do, the collections I
develop, etc and how that might impact circulation...so far, it doesn't make
sense to me to go with primarily the stuff that might really boost
circulation (heavy pbk series,for example) but I am open to what others
think and have experienced. Thank you!
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 11:41:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: Tassione <tassione@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: SR ponderings
Keeping summer reading "logs" is not what I would call pleasant. We
have
tried logging in minutes and hours and for us, it just didn't work.
There are always the kids who read 200 books(right!) and those whor read
eight or nine. It takes a lot of time to look over logs. What I do is
just encourage the kids to read on their level--or to read something a
little more challenging. I am a voracious reader--as are we all--and
many of the kids ask if I've read anything good lately. While kids
should be encouraged to choose their own books, it doesn't hurt to have
something on the tip of your tongue. We don't set strict guidelines
about "how much" or "how many"----just READ.
How's this one? An older sister came in with her brother who was about
10. "What can he read? He's on punishment and has to check out two books.
My dad says so."
Ya da, ya da, ya da.
Hey, kids are going to stuff those logs, but if you have good
programming, fun things to do, and great patrons (we have lots and lots
of those) Summer Reading is really quite a good time.
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 12:32:34 -0500
From: Marleen Watling <MWATLING@flower-mound.com>
Subject: Design of Children's Area
Help! We are building a new library and I am not too excited with the
architect's design for an entrance into the children's area. I remember reading
an article a few years ago in (I believe) Library Journal that showed a castle
motif--with portcullis-- that was wonderful. I have searched the Internet and
haven't found any pictures of children's areas in libraries.
If anyone has a web site that has pictures of their children's areas, could you
please e-mail me directly? Any other pictures or suggestions are extremely
welcome! I want to present a number of alternatives to the library staff and the
architects.
TIA,
Marleen Watling
Youth Services Librarian
Flower Mound Public Library
2121 Cross Timbers Rd.
Flower Mound, TX 75028
(972) 874-3033
mwatling@flower-mound.com
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 15:51:44 -0500
From: Paula Lopatic <paulal@alpha1.rpls.lib.il.us>
Subject: thanks - dragonfly ideas
Thanks to everyone who wrote to me with dragonfly program ideas. It seems
universal to make a dragonfly with a clothespin and paper. Carol
Scrimgeour suggested gluing on sequins for sparkle and Pam Gravenor said to
wipe the paper with cooking oil after the children have colored the wings
for a translucent effect. Karen Knudson suggested the book "Sir Small and
the Dragonfly" by Jane O'Conner and Mary Ferris said there is a pattern in
the Better Homes and Gardens Fun Projects for Kids to Do series "Bugs,
Bugs, Bugs". Thanks to everyone for their help.
Paula Lopatic
Vespasian Warner Public Library
310 N. Quincy St.
Clinton, IL 61727
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 17:07:25 -0400 (EDT)
From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
Subject: Council on Interracial Books for Children
Does anyone have a current address and phone number for the Council
on Interracial Books for Children? We have the 1841 Broadway New York
address which is not current. Ulrich's and Gale both have this with Gale
stating that they were unable to confirm it. The school department here
is looking to update an old checklist on spotting stereotypes and racisim
in children's books. They are looking for something they can buy copies
of in bulk. I tried checking ALA Editions online thinking I had seen
something current there without any luck.
If CIBC is out of business suggestions would be most welcome.
Thank you
Julie Rines
Thomas Crane PL
Quincy, MA
jrines@ocln.org
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Date: Tue, 14 Jul 1998 09:29:03 -0700
From: torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us (Torrie Hodgson Children's Librarian)
Subject: Help!!! L&I and volunteers
I have a young man who wants to volunteer at the library to help
with our webpages for a couple hours a week. The city has informed me that
we will need to "hire" him as a volunteer, and that he and the city
will
both have to pay L&I (liability) for him.
How do other libraries that use volunteers deal with this? Do you
make them pay for the privilege of volunteering? Do you pay both portions
of the L&I? Do you have them sign a liability waiver?
Please let me know ASAP. I would like to be able to use volunteers,
but it sounds like I need to come up with a procedure pronto.
Torrie Hodgson 8)
Torrie Hodgson, Amazon librarian from the avocado jungle!
Burlington Public Library
900 East Fairhaven Ave
Burlington, WA 98233
Phone (360) 755-0760 Fax (360) 755-0717
torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us
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Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1998 16:34:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: Julie Linneman <juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us>
Subject: Out of Print titles
Does anyone have a good source for purchasing out-of-print children's book
titles? I know I have seen ads for some companies that do this for the
consumer market, but are there any which market specifically to libraries
and deal specifically with children's books? Thanks for any help you can
offer.
Julie Linneman
Wichita Public Library
juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us
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