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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 23:22:02 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #407
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 12:12:26 -0500
From: Williams <Dorothy@peabody.whitleynet.org>
Subject: Stephanie's Pony Tail
I have had a protest about Stephanie's Pony Tail. Has anyone else had problems
with this book? What did you do? The gentleman that protested thought it was
about kids making fun of other kids. Please reply to me directly.
Dorothy Williams
Dorothy@peabody.whitleynet.org
or
Peabody Public Library
203 N Main St
Columbia City, IN 46725
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 14:45:57 -0400 (EDT)
From: rebecca fisher <fisher@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
Subject: Re:singing stories
Singing stories are great! Of course, I love to sing... I use some
singing story almost every week in the Toddlers and Twos storytime.
If the book doesn't come with a song, for instance:
Today is Monday by Eric Carle
Cat goes Fiddle-i-Fee by Paul Galdone
I just make up my own tune. My favorites:
Brown Bear, Brown Bear... by Bill Martin, Jr.
Four Fur Feet by Margaret Wise Brown
Parents are always asking me for the tune to Four Fur Feet, so I must have
invented a catchy one.
I also like stories with a recurring refrain the kids can join in on.
Two favorites (also both about frogs)
The little wide-mouthed frog (I usually just tell it) and
The Foolish Frog by Pete Seeger
Rebecca L. Fisher Phone: (302)478-7961
Youth Services Librarian Fax: (302)478-2461
Concord Pike Library
3406 Concord Pike E-mail: fisher@tipcat.lib.de.us
Wilmington, DE 19803
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 15:36:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: rebecca fisher <fisher@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
Subject: Favorite Newberys
I'm voting for *The Twenty-One Balloons,* which I didn't read until I was
an adult.
As a kid I adored *From the Mixed-up Files of Mrs. Basil E. Frankweiler*
and *Johnny Tremain* really engaged me, much to my surprise.
Surely we can keep this up until each one of the books has been declared
to be somebody's favorite.
How about everyone weighing in on their favorite neglected OLD children's
fiction (like Gay-Neck)? I'll offer up *The Good Master* by Kate Seredy
(who won for *The White Stag.*) It has wonderful, wonderful stories in it,
and a child's free-wheeling country life that I envy.
Rebecca L. Fisher Phone: (302)478-7961
Youth Services Librarian Fax: (302)478-2461
Concord Pike Library
3406 Concord Pike E-mail: fisher@tipcat.lib.de.us
Wilmington, DE 19803
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 00:56:04 -0400 (EDT)
From: mary sue burnett <msb@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Re: YA CORE COLLECTION
On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, carol exner wrote:
> Dear Dolly and all,
> I would like to add something to this discussion that my then-teen
> daughter told me when I was taking my YA couse in grad school. When I
> asked her about YA novels, she said she hadn't really read any unless
> they were assigned for school. "If you're a good reader and don't pick
> up YA books by the time you're out of 10th grade, you'll never read them
> unless they're assigned."
> As I continued to discuss this with her friends and with pages I
> knew then and since, I am fairly convinced that she is right. What kids
> who read easily and well would love are hosts of writers like Robert
> Jordan (Eye of the World; science fiction; up to 7 or 8 HUGE volumes of
> intricate plotting, interwoven relationships, and pretty well drawn
> characters) who have teen protagonists going through those teen-year
> problems but with development more like adult novels. That's also a
> reason kids used to devour Stephen King --- teen novels written with
> adult complexity. It's just my opinion, but I think I'm on to
> something.
>
> Carol Exner
> Children's Librarian, Parkwood Branch
> Durham (NC) County Library
>
> >something I read in School Library Journal: Most teens (164-18) feel
> >that R.L. Stine's are geared more toward the younger crowds and are not
> >advanced enough for them. Maybe that is something you could keep in
> mind.
> >I too am trying to update our YA collection, so this will be very
> >interesting. Could you please post your list or e-mail a copy back to
> me?
> >Thanks and good luck!
> >Dolly Irvin
> >Tulare County Library System
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
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I would like to comment on this since a series I have been
following with avid interest has been mentioned. That's the Eye of the
World series. I only use this to point out that crossover between young
adult and adult literature goes BOTH ways. Instructors at my library
school seem to believe that the crossover between young adult and adult
literature only goes one way. That is, young adults read adult
literature. I contend that the crossover can just as easily go the other
way. That is, adults read young adult literature. This especially true
for genres such as science fiction and fantasy. Perhaps the crossover is
only seen to go one way (young adults read adult literature) is that
adults are less willing to admit that they read young adult literature.
But then again, many things that were once thought to be "just for
kids"
are winding up in the hands of adults (comic books, games, etc.).
Mary Sue Burnett
College of Library and Information Services
University of Maryland at College Park
College Park, MD 20742
msb@wam.umd.edu
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Date: Sun, 09 Aug 1998 14:29:16 PDT
From: "carol exner" <crexner@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: YA CORE COLLECTION
Dear Mary Sue,
I would certainly agree with you. At our branch, we have an active
book club whose members are largely older women (with grandchildren).
They read everything, discuss it all, and have a wonderful time.
Some of their members have now begun reading JF and YAF after one
of the members read _The Giver_. I was able to supply them with a list
of JF which I thought would be as exciting for adults as kids. So far,
we have had some interesting and positive discussions about these
novels.
What it comes down to is this: a good writer is a good writer, no
matter what genre or age level they are writing for.
Has anyone else had this experience?
Carol Exner
Children's Librarian, Parkwood Branch
Durham (NC) County Library
> I would like to comment on this since a series I have been
>following with avid interest has been mentioned. That's the Eye of the
>World series. I only use this to point out that crossover between
young
>adult and adult literature goes BOTH ways. Instructors at my library
>school seem to believe that the crossover between young adult and adult
>literature only goes one way. That is, young adults read adult
>literature. I contend that the crossover can just as easily go the
other
>way. That is, adults read young adult literature. This especially
true
>for genres such as science fiction and fantasy. Perhaps the crossover
is
>only seen to go one way (young adults read adult literature) is that
>adults are less willing to admit that they read young adult literature.
>But then again, many things that were once thought to be "just for
kids"
>are winding up in the hands of adults (comic books, games, etc.).
>Mary Sue Burnett
>College of Library and Information Services
>University of Maryland at College Park
>College Park, MD 20742
>msb@wam.umd.edu
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 16:38:20 -0700
From: druthgo@sonic.net (Dr. Ruth I. Gordon)
Subject: Favs
I thought Pullman was a Brit and therefore ineligible for a Newby and that
the book was first published in G.B. ("Golden Compass")
Yes?
Big Grandma (old-timey chair Newby)
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"You may not be able to change the world, but at least you can embarrass
the guilty." Jessica Mitford (1917-1996)
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 21:52:14 EDT
From: MarydeG@aol.com
Subject: Re: YA CORE COLLECTION
While all of what Mary Sue Barnett says below is true, I'd just like to point
out four things.
1. The teen years start in middle school, not the tenth grade.
2. Most teens are not good readers.
3. People that are interested in promoting "young adult" literature in
schools
and libraries are usually contrasting it to classics that are so often forced
on kids and adults who have no interest in them.
4. I have always understood the term "young adult literature" to
include adult
literature that appeals to kids, so I include Stephen King, Ann Rice and even
some classics like Romeo and Juliet.
Mary Givins
Librarian (and former high school teacher)
Roberts Elementary School
marydeg@aol.com
In a message dated 8/9/98 1:18:14 PM US Mountain Standard Time,
msb@wam.umd.edu writes:
<< > Dear Dolly and all,
> I would like to add something to this discussion that my then-teen
> daughter told me when I was taking my YA couse in grad school. When I
> asked her about YA novels, she said she hadn't really read any unless
> they were assigned for school. "If you're a good reader and don't pick
> up YA books by the time you're out of 10th grade, you'll never read them
> unless they're assigned."
> As I continued to discuss this with her friends and with pages I
> knew then and since, I am fairly convinced that she is right. What kids
> who read easily and well would love are hosts of writers like Robert
> Jordan (Eye of the World; science fiction; up to 7 or 8 HUGE volumes of
> intricate plotting, interwoven relationships, and pretty well drawn
> characters) who have teen protagonists going through those teen-year
> problems but with development more like adult novels. That's also a
> reason kids used to devour Stephen King --- teen novels written with
> adult complexity. It's just my opinion, but I think I'm on to
> something. >>
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Date: Sun, 9 Aug 1998 20:07:16 -0700
From: Marian & Paul Drabkin <arcanis@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: Singing Stories
My favorite book-with-singing is Pete Seeger's "The Foolish Frog". It
works very well for family storytimes -- the parents and kids love singing
the recurring song together.
- -- Marian
At 1:41 PM -0400 8/8/98, Carol L. Hranko wrote:
>On Thu, 6 Aug 1998, kscalley wrote:
>
>> I am looking for stories you can sing a long with-like Jamberry that
has a
>> tape of a singing version, Abiyoyo with Pete Seeger singing it!! I plan
to
>> use these stories with preschoolers.
>> I would be happy to compile a list and post to the listserv if there is
>> interest.
>> Ann Scalley
>> kscalley@capecod.net
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