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Date: Wed, 12 Aug 1998 10:59:40 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #411
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 08:48:20 -0500
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: Re: Singing Stories
PU>Ann,
PU>One story a patron let me in on while I was doing a storytime program was
PU>a book titled Whiffle Squeek by Caron Lee Cohen, illustrated by Ted Rand,
PU>1983, K-3rd. It is about a seefaring cat named Whiffle Squeek who has a
PU>narrow escape from a hungry monster of the briny deep. It is sung to the
PU>tune of aiken drum.
I missed the initial post regarding Singing Stories somehow, but it is a
subject of much interest to me and I have done several workshops on
stories that want to be sung; if anyone would like a lilst of likely
candidates and tunes to put them to, I would be happy to send them such
by snail mail if they want to send me their address. On a related
subject; does anyone else use autoharp a lot in their various sorts oo f
programmings? I cana't imagine doing my work without mine, but I've
never met another children's librarian who uses one extensively. If I
ran the world there would be a course in USEFUL INSTRUMENTS which would
be a major part of the curriculum for all folks training to be
children's librarians. When you've got a friend with strings to help
you out it's a whole new ballgame - and contrary to public opinion you
don't have to be a rocket scientist to play one at least well enough to
be helpful.
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
schachtc@LCM.macomb.lib.mi.us
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:21:39 EDT
From: RPHUD@aol.com
Subject: Re: YA literature
I've been following with interest the discussions about a suitable YA Core
Collection. I'll be working in a private school's upper library (7-12th
grades) and one of my responsibilities will be to build-up the fiction
collection. I'm familiar with many YA authors but am very interested in what
the feelings are regarding authors who are good "bridges" into adult
literature. Please let me know who you feel would be good authors to have in
the collection. If there is interest, I'll be happy to post the collective
list. Thanks!
Lorri Huddy
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 11:34:38 -0700 (PDT)
From: Elaine Morgan <elainem@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Re: YA CORE COLLECTION
At my previous branch I always shelved the new YA fiction with the adult
new books. My original thinking had been that the teens might be
browseing for the latest SciFi and find some of the YA titles by accident.
What really happened was that adults checked out the teen novels more than
the kids did. so you are right about crossover going both ways. And
there are many really well written YA titles that adults would enjoy and
obviously did at my branch. elm
On Sun, 9 Aug 1998, mary sue burnett wrote:
> World series. I only use this to point out that crossover between young
> adult and adult literature goes BOTH ways. Instructors at my library
> school seem to believe that the crossover between young adult and adult
> literature only goes one way. That is, young adults read adult
> literature. I contend that the crossover can just as easily go the other
> way. That is, adults read young adult literature. This especially true
> for genres such as science fiction and fantasy. Perhaps the crossover is
> only seen to go one way (young adults read adult literature) is that
> adults are less willing to admit that they read young adult literature.
> But then again, many things that were once thought to be "just for
kids"
> are winding up in the hands of adults (comic books, games, etc.).
> Mary Sue Burnett
> College of Library and Information Services
> University of Maryland at College Park
> College Park, MD 20742
> msb@wam.umd.edu
>
>
>
>
Elaine Lesh Morgan, Youth Librarian Rockwood Branch Library
Multnomah County Library 17917 S.E. Stark St.
(503) 248-5396 fax (503)248-5178 Portland, OR 97233
elainem@nethost.multnomah.or.lib.us
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 05:15:15 EDT
From: MarydeG@aol.com
Subject: Re: YA CORE COLLECTION
Hey all,
This seems to be one of those discussions that starts with one thing and leads
to another. I don't even know what the original item was, but I responded to
some comments along the way and have received some flack in return, so I
thought I ought clarify my comments. First, it wasn't Mary Sue Burnett whose
daughter said that good readers don't read YA lit after the tenth grade.
Apparently Ms. Burnett had forwarded or responded to something by someone else
and when I clipped the portion I was responding to my e-mail package
attributed it to her. I've sent her my apologies for misquoting her. Actually,
Ms. Burnett posted a very interesting message about the possibility of some
YA and J fiction, such as The Giver, appealing to adults just as some adult
fiction is appealing to a lot of teens. I couldn't agree with her more. Good
writing is good writing.
One or two people seem to have taken my comment that "most teens are not
good
readers" as a put-down. I did not say, nor did I mean, that most teens are
bad
readers. I take the word "good" to mean better than average.
Mathematically
speaking, most people are average, including most teens. I simply wanted to
point out that we should be interested in serving all teens, not just "good
readers." I feel that keeping ourselves aware of current YA lit, as well as
adult lit and children's lit, and let's not forget nonfiction, is necessary
for serving the needs of what the library world calls young adults and other
people call teens or adolescents (a rose by any other name). By no means do I
mean that we should ignore "good" readers that aren't interested in YA
lit.
There is no reason to limit our readers. But let's not ignore the majority in
order to cater to some.
Mary Givins
Librarian
Roberts Elementary School
Tucson, AZ 85711
marydeg@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:40:44 -0700
From: Edmonds Reference Library <edmref@sno-isle.org>
Subject: Re: YA CORE COLLECTION
Are YA novels used in secondary schools? I think it depends
on whether or not the schools have recommended reading lists which
include YA authors. In Edmonds (WA) both the closest middle school
and high school use reading lists which include YA authors. Because
students get credit for reading material on these list they are
constantly in the library asking for these titles. This
is particularly true for middle school students looking for titles
from the Accelerated Reading List.
Each list I've seen has problems, none is truly up-to-date, or
includes close to all good YA novels. But students do read from them
and often, if they like an author, they will ask for more books by
that person.
Also, if a YA novel wins an award it immediately is picked
up on reading lists and recommended by teachers. The best recent
example of this is "The Giver". I found it ponderous, but as soon
as it won the Newberry it was assigned by teachers and went on
reading lists, so for two years afterward we got continual requests
for it from middle school students. This is an argument, I guess,
for having a best YA book award as is begin considered by YALSA.
Our system has taken a look at some of the area secondary
school reading lists and done some collection development based
on those reviews (primarily purchasing paperback copies of titles
on the list and having them cataloged). I regularly look at the
reading lists from school in the Edmonds service area and communicate
collection "lacks" to the YA Collection Develoment Team.
Tom Reynolds
A/YA Librarian
Edmonds Library
edmref@sno-isle.org
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 09:10:50 -0500
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: RE: fine free children's materials
Carol - sounds like we ought to form a curmudgeons roundtable here; Tim
makes sense to me too. At the risk of sounding like Dr. Laura, the
sooner kids learn that actions have consequences, the sooner their
behaviour gets responsibleand the more enjoyable they are to be around.
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
PU>Dear Tim,
PU> Though I may sound curmudgeonly, I must agree.
PU>Carol Exner
PU>Children's Librarian, Parkwood Branch
PU>Durham (NC) County Library
PU>>The idea of not charging fines on Children's materials mystifies me.
PU>The
PU>>added monetary incentive spurs the children to be more responsible
PU>(many's
PU>>the parent who uses these fines to teach responsibility).
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 06:48:14 -0500
From: Carol & Marcel Erkens <erkens@tconl.com>
Subject: Re: Games Magazines for Young Adults
Shari,
Here at Omaha Public Library we have GamePro which is like the EGM. We
also never seem to have it on the shelf! We're thinking about doubling our
subscriptions to some of our YA mags. Has anyone done that? How successful
has it been?
Carol Erkens, YA Librarian
Abrahams Branch, Omaha Public Library
At 01:02 PM 8/10/98 -0500, you wrote:
>
>
>I work in a suburban library serving a town of around 75,000. We
>recently added 18 magazines in our young adult collection. They have
>been EXTREMELY popular. I've found that _Electronic Gaming Monthly_ is
>always out. This makes me think I should add another game magazine of
>similar ilk. We already have _Nintendo Power_ in Kids' World so I do not
>want to duplicate that title. Do any of you have any suggestions of
>magazines that would appeal to the _Electronic Gaming Monthly_ reader?
>Please send directly to me and I will post my responses to the list. I
>am only looking for another GAMES magazine -- not general young adult
>magazines.
>Thanks,
>Shari Hetzke
>
>Shari Hetzke tel 847-506-2629
>Secondary School Services Specialist fax 847-506-2650
>Arlington Heights Memorial Library shetzke@nslsilus.org
>500 North Dunton
>Arlington Heights, IL 60004
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 98 11:56:00
From: katy@tribbles.nampa.lib.id.us
Subject: Re: YA CORE COLLECTION
To all who love YA's
It is wonderful to see so much interest in what YA's truly like to read. The
important thing to remember is that all YA's are different just as all children
and
all adults are. Communities are very different as well. To figure out what one
needs
for a YA collection start with a community analysis and start interacting with
the
available YA's the ones who read and the ones who don't.
What I discovered is a community with a teen dropout rate of 24%. Only 20%
of teens go on to college at all and only 11.7 % of adults 25+ complete 4 or
more
years of college. 22% of children under 18 are Hispanic and the dropout rate for
this
population is almost 40%. 41.5% of children in our county live below the poverty
line. Obviously my collection will look different from one in a different
community.
The kids I run into who claim to be voracious readers have generally worked
their way through series fiction Little house, american girl and Janet Oke and
want
to know what to read next. Running out of vampire or other horror titles is a
common
complaint.
I do agree middle schoolers are a large target audience, but high schoolers
often come to me when they have to read a book for school ie historical fiction.
Most
often they are looking for a short easy read. Consequently I shop for easy
interesting historical fiction to support that yearly assignment.
Again I think this list is valuable for discussion, but don't forget to go
out and talk to those who will be affected the most the teens in your area. One
book
I would recomend is Keeping kids reading: how to raise avid readers in the video
age
by Mary Leonhardt 1996. This book will give you a way to not only accertain what
type
of books kids like but where their reading will most likely evolve depending on
their
reading style. The ideas will help steer toward a balanced collection.
- -------------------------------------
Name: Katy Curl
E-mail: katy@tribbles.nampa.lib.id.us
Date: 8/11/98
Time: 11:56:00 AM
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 15:39:26 -0500
From: Rebecca Rich-Wulfmeyer <rwulfm@ci.temple.tx.us>
Subject: homeschooling magazines
Growing Without Schooling is a secular magazine. We carry it here. It
was recommended to me by a homeschooling parent. It is published by
Holt Associates (617) 864-3100. 2269 Mass. Ave, Cambridge MA 02140.
$25/yr. www.holtgws.com
- ------------------------------
Becky Rich-Wulfmeyer
Children's Librarian
Temple Public Library
rwulfm@ci.temple.tx.us
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:42:45 -0600
From: ISO@PUEBLO.LIB.CO.US
Subject: Singing stories
On the singing stories thread, have a look/listen at Bonnie Phipps, whom
I just heard again at the Rocky Mountain Storytelling Festival in Palmer
Lake, Co. She's an autoharpist, but her theme last weekend was to tell
the story of the song before you use the song with kids: they will follow
the song much better and get more out of it.
It makes sense; I've tried singing stories and the kids go duhhh; it's time
for me to break away from that absolutist mode ...
Isobel Drysdale
iso@pueblo.lib.co.us
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 14:57:08 -0700 (PDT)
From: Tamara Jones <tammycjk@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Children's Spanish Language Videos
There's a good catalog called Ninos that sells lots of Children's
videos in Spanish. I could probably find the catalog if you need more
info.
- ---"T. Birkholz" <birkholz@nslsilus.org> wrote:
>
> I have recently been given the responsibility of ordering children's
videos
> in Spanish. Does anyone have any good sources for Spanish language
videos?
> Please e-mail me directly at:
> birkholz@nslsilus.org
> Thanks for your help.
>
> Tina Birkholz
> Gail Borden Public Library
> Elgin, IL
>
>
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 12:39:46 +0000
From: Psherwin.Staff.DPT.ACPL@everest.acpl.lib.in.us
Subject: Re: Laura Ingalls Wilder Program
Dear Kristina:
I did a similar program at the Allen County Public Library back in
the late 80's (that sounds soooo long ago) for six years. It is
great fun.
Here is a name for you to call. I don't know if she still is doing
this or not. Her name is Joyce Carpenter
11404 W. 140th Ave.
Cedar Lake, IN 46303
219-374-7584
219- 365-5480 (daughter or
answering machine)
I don't know if that info is still correct. I haven't talked with
her for some time. After I moved out here to the branch we did have
Joyce come here for a few LIW Day affairs ( much smaller than at the
Main), Joyce comes dressed in a pioneer dress and has all sorts of
artifacts from all the different places Laura lived. Joyce and her
husband visited all the places and had slides of all of them. She
didn't portray Laura but talked about her. It was a great program.
At the branch we served gingerbread - mine was out of a box, but our
nanager made the real stuff from the recipe in the book. It was
yummy.
My recommendation to you is to be VERY ORGANIZED.. We did it (when I
was at the Main library in the Children's Dept. in Feb. close to LIW's
birthday and it was for one day. We had about 1000 people show up -
mostly Girl Scouts (we advertized in the scout newsletter) and even adults with
no
kids. They had to sign up
for a craft so we could have crowd control (we did the sign up early
that day - not ahead of time), the crafts were geared to certain ages
- - pre-k, 1st-2nd, 3rd-5th grades. We also trained volunteers (we had 70 vol.
all
told) to help with the crafts (2 helpers per table with 6-8 kids at a
table). Adults loved it because they then
learned that craft, such as wheat weaving, cornhusk doll making, etc.
We had the local model train organization do a display and even tho
they could only have it up for one day, they loved it. We had goat
milking once, hog calling contest, a spelling bee, storytellers, a
melodrama done by staff, musicians, candle dipping, and old time crafts
demonstrations (people who wove, spun, collected old toys, whittled,
tattling,
etc, sat a tables throughout the library and demonstrated. Some even
had scraps for kids to try. The various dept. did what they could.
Some pulled old sheet music, one did a dislay on Patents (not too
exciting) and so on. The people could bring their lunch and eat in our
auditorium.
We provided the drinks.
It was a great program but after 6 years I got burned out. We
resurrected a portion of it here with bringing Joyce here for an
afternoon. Oh, a couple of times we invited local American Indians
to come and do a presentation. We justified the localness of it
broadly saying that the Ingalls had to go through Indiana to get to
Minn. But actuall nobody asked us about that. I tried to stay as
faithful the books as possible. One time the Historical Museum had
interns and they did a display. They took a picture from LITTLE HOUSE ON THE
PRAIRIE and found items in our Histroical Museum that looked like
the ones in the picture and did a display. It was perfect.
My very first ILL was to order a book that is mentioned on one of the
stories. It was a book about animals. I got an old copy, I believe
1872, or close, from the U. of Arizona. It have faded purple, more
violet, end covers. We displayed it in our display case. That made
a believer out of me in ILL.
Well, I could go on and on. I'm glad to see you are doing this. I
hope it all goes well. If you have any other questions, give me a
call at 219-421-1315. Ask for Phyllis.
Have to go off to supper.
Hope this has been helpful.
Phyllis Sherwin
219-421-1315
Dupont Branch
Ft. Wayne, IN
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Date: Tue, 11 Aug 1998 18:08:34 -0400
From: "Tim and Scot Capehart" <capehart@ziplink.net>
Subject: Position Description Quansary
I am in a quandary. I have just accepted my first position as Head of
Children's Services (I thought I'd be an "Assistant" before I was a
"Head"!)
and my Assistant Head of Children's Services is planning to leave (she
assures me it has nothing to do with me!)
My quandary is this: My Director thinks now would be a great time to re-do
the job descriptions of the Assistant Head and our Clerk position. That same
Director has worked very hard over the last year to upgrade the Clerk
position to the same "level" as the Assistant Head. We are a municipal
library & now both are bachelor's-degree-requiring S-4's (for what that's
worth). I just wanted to ask the collective PUBYAC mind...how are YOUR
libraries set up hierarchically? Do any of you have co-assistant heads? Are
their position descriptions identical? Would it be a bad idea to designate
one of the "equal" positions as Assistant Head? I seek guidance!
Thank You In Advance
Timothy Capehart
Head of Children's Services
Leominster Public Library
Leominster, MA
tcapehar@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
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