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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 23:04:21 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #433
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:30:48 -0500
From: jvandcar@park-ridge.lib.il.us
Subject: Shelving Map/Shelf capacities
In planning our space renovation and expansion projects we used a book
called the Wisconsin Library Building Project Handbook, 1990. Published by
the Wisconsin Department of Public Instruction (608) 266-2188. This book
has charts that show shelving capacities per unit, the capacity factor -
65%-80% full, number of volumes per linear feet, etc.
I found this very useful, however, I still needed to actually count the
books on the shelves in various sections to determine how many children's
books of each type would fit and then I did some averages.
Children's books vary depending on the type and level of books. We used 14
volumes per linear foot for older fiction and nonfiction (4th-8th grade) and
18 volumes per linear foot for "Easy" fiction and nonfiction (1st-3rd
grade).
Janet
Janet Van De Carr
Park Ridge Public Library
Park Ridge, IL 60068
mailto:jvandcar@park-ridge.lib.il.us
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 15:08:45 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kathleen Hutchins MHV (978) 373-1586" <hutchins@mvlc.lib.ma.us>
Subject: Circulation CD-ROMS at the public library
We are instituting a circulating CD-ROM collection and have come up with
a number of issues. I am hoping some of you that already have such
collections in place can offer your expertise. Our two areas of concern
are rental fees, and registration issues.
RENTAL FEES
We intended to make the CD-ROMs a rental collection, $1 per week.
The money generated by the fee would go back into the CD-ROM collection budget
to purchase new and additional software, and pay for processing materials.
-Does anyone have a CD-ROM rental collection? Do you have a policy you
can share with us?
-Can we charge a fee if we purchased the CD-ROM's with
grant money? What about CD-ROM's whose license agreements say no rental?
If we call it a handling fee, to pay for the materials and time spent to
collate all the items in the software package, is this still a rental fee,
and therefore a violation of license agreement?
-Does anyone have a mixed collection, with some rental and some free?
TECH SUPPORT/REGISTRATION:
For those of you with any kind of circulating CD-ROM collection, how do
you handle tech support and registration? We intended to put a sticker
on each CD-ROM that said the library was not responsible for
incompatibility with patron's PC, and that the library was not
responsible for tech support. How do you handle tech support for your
CD-ROMs? We thought if we mailed in the card in the library's name, then
supplied each CD-ROM package with the tech support numbers and our
registration numbers, that would take care of the problem. We are
finding a number of CD-ROMs say "register online." In this case, does
the
CD-ROM search for an Internet connection and try to register the product
each time it is installed on a new machine? How does this affect borrowing?
Any advice, policies or stories you can share are greatly appreciated. I
will be happy to compile and post to the list so this information will be
in the PUBYAC archives the next time someone needs it.
Thanks in advance!
Beth Gallaway
egallawa@concentric.net
Haverhill Public Library
Haverhill MA
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 20:21:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Kathleen Hutchins MHV (978) 373-1586" <hutchins@mvlc.lib.ma.us>
Subject: Knowledge Adventure not "library-friendly"
We recently purchased several CD-ROMS published by Knowledge Adventure, a
software company based in Torrance, California. Our jobber provided
reviews of the items in a monthly newsletter, recommending them for
library purchase. We intended to circulate them our patrons, but upon reading
over the license agreements, the Head of the Tech Services Dept. found the
following prohibition:
"User may not loan, lease, distribute or transfer the Software or copies
thereof..."
The Head of Tech Services called the Customer Service Dept. of Knowledge
Adventure. They confirmed that this prohibition applied to public
libraries. The negative response was very disappointing. In a letter to
Knowledge Adventure, my supervisor stated:
"Public libraries are in the business of loaning out materials to many
different types of patrons including those who have not the means to
purchase these items, but also those who may wish to try them out prior
to purchasing. Your company's prohibition means that thousands of
potential customers may be lost to you."
We are returning Science Adventure II, Undersea Adventure, and Jumpstart
Preschool Deluxe Pack for a full refund. We informed Knowledge
Adventure that we would post this information on the Internet to other
libraries around the world. Knowledge Adventure is a company whose
products should be avoided, as they are not "library friendly." Those
of you
whose libraries may own and circulate Knowledge Adventure CD-ROMs should be
aware that you are in violation of their licensing agreement.
Beth Gallaway
egallawa@concentric.net
Haverhill Public Library
Haverhill MA
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 15:59:00 -0400
From: "Heather Dennis" <HDennis@phm.gcsd.k12.sc.us>
Subject: introduction
Hi. My name is Heather Dennis, and I just subscribed to your list today. I am a
Library Science graduate student at the University of South Carolina. I am also
a second year 7th grade teacher in Georgetown, SC. For one of our classes, we
were to subscribe to another listserv outside of the USC system. I found this on
the Internet, and chose it because of the similarity to my profession. Is there
anyone out there who would write me back and fill me in on some of the specific
topics that are discussed. I am really anxious to hear from someone.
Thanks for your help.
Heather Dennis
Georgetown, SC
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 08:32:59 -0500
From: Deborah McClish <Deborah@rockford.lib.il.us>
Subject: scavenger hunts
Good Morning,
Help! I know there was a discussion several months ago concerning
scavenger hunts. I tried getting into the archives to review those
posts, but could only see a list of the posts. Would those of you who
had addresses for scavenger hunts be willing to resend them to me at my
email address listed below? I am in the process of designing an hour
long Internet class for children. I want to incorporate a scavenger
hunt, but need to see examples. Any other advice, tips, warnings <grin>
would be greatly appreciated.
Thanks so much! You all are the best.
Deborah McClish
Librarian, Youth Services
Rockford (IL) Public Library
deborah@rockford.lib.il.us
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Date: Wed, 9 Sep 1998 09:15:21 -0400
From: Melody Allen <melodyan@lori.state.ri.us>
Subject: Costume Specialists solved
Many thanks to those who sent me the number for Costume Specialists. Here it is
for others who may be interested:
800-596-9357
Melody Allen
Melodyan@lori.state.ri.us
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Date: Wed, 09 Sep 1998 12:14:57 -0500
From: Peggy Northcraft <mdu002@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: Audiocassette location
Dear All,
Thanks to the many who responded to my query about shelvind audiocassettes
among the books. No one responded that they had done this successfully.
the people who just want to browse for a tape didn't appreciate it. The
overwhelming majority (8 of 10) shelve the audiocassettes on separate
shelves near the J books or videos. No one wanted to keep them interfiled
with the easy hanger bags. A local librarian I talked to remembered that
the interfiling with the books was an idea she heard in Library /School.
However, the audio browser theory has convinced me not to do this. My
audiocassetes are coming out of the bags as soon as I get some time.
Thanks again to all who responded.
Peggy
Margaret "Peggy" Northcraft
Children's Librarian
Hannibal Public Library
Hannibal MO
mdu002@mail.connect.more.net
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 18:33:20 -0400 (EDT)
From: Bromann <bromannj@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Who Killed My Daughter?
I am going to book talk Lois Duncan's Who Killed My Daughter to high
school freshmen. Does anyone know if Lois Duncan ever found out what
really happened to her daughter, or know of any articles that tell the
end to the story (if there is one)?
Jennifer Bromann
Head of Youth Services
Prairie Trails Public Library
Burbank, IL
bromannj@sls.lib.il.us
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:16:57 -0400
From: Anne Leggat <aleggat@candlewick.com>
Subject: RE: pubyac V1 #430
The 800 number for Costume Specialists is (800) 596-9357.
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 19:09:04 -0500
From: Adelaide Rowe <arowe@egvpl.org>
Subject: Re: audiocassette placement
Our youth services dept. which services a village of 33,000, has
audiocassettes in four places. Peggy did not specify as to the nature of
the audiocassettes, but here goes as to how we shelve ours. The vast
majority of them, 1900, are on the Lift Shelving System - the gondolas.
Those are the normal music ones, with a bit of poetry and prose thrown
in. Then we have the audio books (160) which are shelved independently
on regular shelving. Then there are the kits numbering 1220, which we
have on hanging rods.Kits are defined as multimedia - books and tapes
usually, although there have been some CD entries of late.We recently
divided them into two sections- fiction and non-fiction. Our fourth
group is not large, and I don't know the exact quantity, but before we
started the non-fiction kits, we had a few cassettes which came with or
without book, which could fit in a notebook or some such and we placed
them with the non-fiction books. Now that we have the non-fiction kits,
we may reclassify them, but we probably won't add anymore of those to
the books. We do integrate our non-fiction videos with our books, all
1900 of them, because it makes it so easy for us. However, the nature of
the audiocassette books makes it awkward to do the same.
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Date: 9 Sep 98 08:44:22 PDT
From: Carol Exner <crexner@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [parent wants advice/reading]
Dear Leah,
Here in Durham, we have that problem a lot. It is a happy problem, ˙
but
one which does cause parental/professional conflict. Here is what I have˙
suggested: try adult authors from an earlier writing period. I don't
necessarily mean "The Classics." But do try: Agatha Christie, Pearl
Buck˙
, ˙
some of the spy/thriller authors from the sixties, Hammett and Chandler, ˙
James
Michner, Robert Heinlein ... you get the idea. Ask the child what they e˙
njoy
reading. Then head back into those dusty vaults and see what you can pul˙
l up.
Try to get your adult services/reader's advisor person involved and see ˙
what
you can come up with! You would be amazed at the number of kids reading ˙
these
older authors and enjoying them!
Carol Exner
Children's Librarian, Parkwood Branch
Durham (NC) County Library
Leah Langby wrote:
A parent of a widely and well-read 5th grade boy came in today looking f˙
or
things she could read to give her guidance. Her fifth grader is capable ˙
of
reading adult fiction, and has read and enjoyed much of it. ˙
Leah Langby
Door County Library
llangby@mail.wiscnet.net
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 15:05:42 -0500
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: MAKING PLANS
Oh Keepers of the Collective Wisdom, succor me now in my hour of need, I
pray; this needs a brain bigger than mine/experience broader than mine.
The problem is this, as succinctly put as possible. We will soon be
building a new library not more than a couple of miles from our old
library. We can't afford to build as big of a new one as we would like,
, but it will still be about twice as big as our old facility. The new
library will be a little ways out of town and inaccessible by foot or
public transportation; the old one is right in the heart of our village
and within walking distance of 2 elementary schools and a middle school.
Problem #1. We promised during the millage campaign that we would not
close the old library, but that it instead would become a branch of some
sort. It's about 80 years old, architecturally very interesting, and
many folks are quite fond of it. Problem #2. Our library director,
sensibly enough, does NOT want to duplicate services in two buildings so
close together that will serve the same population, so having sizeable
children's collections in both buildings doesn't seem to make sense.
Problem #3. It does not seem as though, under the current financial
restraints we face, the new building will be able to include a meeting
room/programming room. The old/current building could contain a program
room when it is refurbished, which will happen about the time the new
library opens. Question #1. What kind of use can we find to put the
old building to that will not duplicate services offered in the new
building and that will make an important contribution to the life of our
downtown/not leave our voters feeling like they've been sold down the
river? Question #2. Should we entertain the possibility of morphing
the old library into what would be primarily a wonderful new children's
facility with a nice programming room and maybe some sort of popular
adult fiction collection /reading room
and then having only a minimal children's collection over at the new
building. If we kept the main children's presence here in the old
building it would 1. free up much needed space in the smaller than
desired new building. 2. Keep the children's collection in proximity to
a meeting/program room 3. Keep the children's collection within walking
distance of a lot of young people who could not get to the new building
on their own. On the other hand, many parents might find such a
"two-stop-shopping" facility aggravating and inconvenient, and it
might
necessitate adding another staff person. Are there any other libraries
who have for whatever reason contemplated splitting their collections
between two different buildings/locations? Would madness lie this way,
or might it actually be the alternative that made the most sense in
light of our peculiar circumstances? Something library related, fine
and exciting needs to happen at this inviting old building, and I sure
would like for our department to have more room than the architect is
going to be able to give us at the proposed new digs. Your ruminations
and opinions, oh sages? Please reply directly, and accept my profound
gratitude in advance for whatever help you are able to be...
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
schachtc@LCM.macomb.lib.mi.us
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 20:03:10 -0700
From: Ann-Marie Biden <ambiden@nancy.ci.san-marino.ca.us>
Subject: replacement audio tapes
Hello to all!
I recently completed weeding/inventory of our children's read-along
kits--cassette tape and book--and found many in need of a replacement tape.
Does anyone know of a source for purchasing the TAPE only for these kits?
I've replaced many of the books, but finding the solo tape has been
difficult. Any help greatly appreciated! (I suppose I could haunt thrift
stores but I do have a life--sort of!)
Ann-Marie Biden, Youth Services Librarian
San Marino Public Library
1890 Huntington Dr.
San Marino, CA 91108
tel (626) 300-0776 fax (626)284-0766
ambiden@ci.san-marino.ca.us
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 14:17:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Norm Bagley <bagleyn@crisny.org>
Subject: grant project info
Hello --
I recently completed a program funded by a New York State Parent / Child
Services Grant. When I applied, I was asked how I would disseminate info.
about this program's success. I stated that, in addition to other means,
I would make info. available to members of PUBYAC. To fulfill this
obligation, I am sending this message.
Very briefly, what my grant did was fund small satellite collections of
story kits which circulated from 5 partner locations in my library's
service area. In addition, the library hosted an author visit and a
program by a local children's museum for children and their parents /
caregivers. I also made story time visits to partner locations.
This is a _very_ brief summary. If you are interested in more
information, please e-mail me (address below) or call (518-237-0891), and
I will be happy to give a more detailed explanation and answer questions.
I learned some valuable things from this program, with interesting
implications for future library service.
Thanks for your interest.
- -- Norm Bagley, M.L.S.
Children's Librarian
Waterford (NY) Public Library
bagleyn@crisny.org
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Date: 8 Sep 98 16:41:38 PDT
From: Carol Exner <crexner@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [Audiocassettes placement]
Dear Peggy,
I think you are right on the money! At our branch, we put the JF ta˙
pes
in a separate section by themselves. In fact, we have taken our JF out o˙
f
bags and housed them in cassette boxes like adult books on tape. Parents˙
who
use books on tape frequently have children who use them also and in the s˙
ame
way: on long trips where amusement and distraction is needed. They now
circulate briskly enough so that we have doubled the collection over a ye˙
ar
and a half. So I would say that your instincts are correct.
Peggy Northcraft wrote:
I am trying to decide about where to put the
Juvenile Audiocassetes. They are currently hanging in bags among the Eas˙
y
book and tape sets. Does anyone shelve them among the books? ˙
Peggy
Margaret "Peggy" Northcraft
Children's Librarian
Hannibal Public Library
Hannibal MO ˙
mdu002@mail.connect.more.net
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Date: Tue, 8 Sep 1998 16:16:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Island Park Public Library <ilandpk@lilrc.org>
Subject: Book Discussion
Hi,
I have been unsuccessful in searching the archives on book
discussions that make suggestions to use with children. I am going to
start with a group of children in grades 3-5. What titles do you suggest
would work with this age group? I am looking for books that are not too
serious. If you have been successful,please share your experience with
me. TIA
Theresa Gonzalez
Island Park P.L.,
ilandpk@lilrc.org
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Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 22:19:52 -0400
From: "Karen G. Schneider" <kgs@bluehighways.com>
Subject: Re: Educating the Public about BBW: Example from Capital District(NY)
It was fun to read about the Banned Books Week "example from Capital
District." However, with all due respect to my esteemed colleagues in my
area--who I greatly admire, and whose ideas I am quick to steal, I mean,
borrow from, including the completely charming Bob Jacquay of Colonie and
Jeff Cannell of Albany--there is at least one library in the Capital
District that is celebrating Banned Books Week *sans* major syndicated
bookseller: the Garfield Library of Brunswick.
As our website and press releases note, we are having a Banned Books
Read-Aloud at the Library on Monday, September 28, 7 p.m. at the Library,
and that entire week we are featuring books that have been banned or
challenged as a special display (which given our space problems is a major
sacrifice--I believe the display will have to be on top of the TV set in
the children's area). We have a very limited budget, but I made sure that
I had a nice, clean copy of every book on ALA's list available for our
special night. (If you come into the library now, you can see them sitting
tippy-top on the shelves where we hold our new cataloging.) In many cases
these purchases are augmenting well-loved, dog-eared copies that have on
their own wordlessly proved the power of speech over the power of those who
would silence it.
I am ever so dimly familiar with the ACLU--don't they have some connection
to the First Amendment?--but I am afraid we toddled into our BBW activism
without guile or extreme preparation. The only important people invited
are the 11,093 Brunswick residents who love and support our library, plus
sundry supporters from elsewhere. The only books we are reading from alas,
are not for sale--but we will let you read them for free, as long as you
bring them back on time. Our evening's itinerary is completely dependent
on whoever shows up. We are featuring 3 posters on our wall space (which
take up *all* available wallspace), and handing out a few bookmarks, and if
the budget looks o.k. for the month--we're a five-figure library--we will
offer cookies.
I hope I have some time to stop by and see how the big folks do BBW. We
can probably learn something, and besides, maybe Big Bob and Friendly Jeff
will be there. But if you're opening the field to bragging about the most
important BBW programming this year, I know where it is, hands-down. It's
in rustic little Brunswick, way out on Route 2 and the corner of
Moonlawn--in the most important library (to us) in the world. And that's
why (to quote Oprah) "the First Amendment rocks": because no matter
how
remote, or humble, or underfunded your library may be, wherever you are,
you are the representation of what it means to have free speech in an open
society. There is nothing more satisfying in life than to realize that
today you opened another mind.
Happy BBW to all--and may all of my colleagues have enough money for a few
new books and a box of cookies or two to mark this important week. Let
freedom ring!
Just another small-town librarian,
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Karen G. Schneider | kgs@bluehighways.com http://www.bluehighways.com
Author: A Practical Guide to Internet Filters, Neal Schuman, 1997
Director, Garfield Library of Brunswick, NY garfield@crisny.org
Garfield on the Web: http://www.crisny.org/not-for-profit/garfield
Information is hard work
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