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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:19:38 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #444
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 14:16:00 -0700
From: Brandi Puls <puls@twsuvm.uc.twsu.edu>
Subject: Children's services - traditional vs. online
I have recently subscribed to the PUBYAC listserve and am getting quite a
bit of information regarding issues in the public libraries. I just
started my MLS degree this semester and am interested in becoming a
children's librarian. For one of my research projects, I have chosen to do
a comparison between the traditional aspects of the children's area, such
as circulation and the reading of physical books, verses the online
features available. I am interested in the programs available on-site not
via the web such as programs that are loaded for use while a child is
there. Basically, I want to know how children of reading age are using the
library. Can anyone give me some useful article citations and web sites to
visit? Any help is greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Brandi J. Puls
Acquisitions Assistant
Wichita State University
Ablah Library
1845 Fairmount; Box 68
Wichita, KS 67260-0068
phone: (316) 978-5132
fax: (316) 978-3048
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 13:24:55 -0500
From: DLHIETT <dlh@greennet.net>
Subject: RE: spider web
Hi Linda,
I've read that you can capture a spider web by placing a piece of paper =
behind it then spray it with paint or hair spray. I don't know if this =
works, I've never tried it. Good Luck!!
Deb Hiett :)
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 10:00:41 -0700 (PDT)
From: Walter Minkel <walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Re: "real" reference librarians
On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Kirsten Edwards wrote:
> Well, my personal feeling is that business reference is a bit of a pain,
> but I try to do it well.
> <snip>
> Kirsten (Who suspects there's more of an underlying economic problem with
> salaries for public sector employees than merely a misplaced
> sense of values)
Kirsten-- I agree with you; I didn't mean to put down business reference
and the skills involved at all, only the feeling I get from _some_
practitioners of business/consumer/etc. reference that it's higher-status
than children's/YA work, which seems to them too much like play.
As for the salaries of public sector employees problem, I think that will
always be with us as long as voters can approve library bonds and levies,
and as long as we have city and county governments who approve budgets.
Many of these people don't understand what is "professional" about
being a
librarian. We all need to make more [self-confident] noise, I think. --W
Walter Minkel, School Corps Technology Trainer
Multnomah County Library, 205 NE Russell St., Portland, OR 97212
Voice (503)736-6002; fax (503)248-5441; walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us
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Look! A Toyota! Kool! --Palindrome of the Month
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:55:57 -0500
From: Sally Goodroe <sgoodroe@stic.lib.tx.us>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #440
Re: States Books
America the Beautiful, Second Series is coming out in groups of 10 from
Children's Press. These are, to me, the class of states books. The
Capstone ones are good for high-low, and Lerner does well also. For
fifth graders, the Children's Press ones will work nicely - lots of good
info, including all the regular questions.
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Sally Goodroe, Children's Specialist
Harris County Public Library, Houston
8080 El Rio Street, Houston, TX 77054
713-749-9031 FAX 713-749-9090
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 17:18:05 -0600
From: Sandy Farmer <sfarmer@hpl.lib.tx.us>
Subject: Re: States Books
Check out those Celebrate the States books. If I am right the state flower
for Indiana is wrong in the Indiana book, in Texas the Congress Street
Bridge, where the bats live, pictured is not in Houston but in Austin and
there were more factual errors that caused us to pass this series.
Sandy Farmer
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From: Pryluck <mpryluck@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: States Books
Date: Wed, 16 Sep 1998 20:43:50 -0400 (EDT)
To: Bridgett Johnson <bridgett@lewis-carnegie-library.org>
Cc: pubyac@nysernet.org
The best set of books on the states that I have seen in recent years is
CELEBRATE THE STATES, Benchmark Books, Marshall Cavendish. The books are
well written, factual, include history and geogra[hy. They include state
song, famous people, and a timeline. For my money- this is the set to
buy.
Marcia Pryluck, Head of Children's Services, Brentwood NY
mpryluck@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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Date: 09/17/98
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 18:55:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: "real" reference librarians
On Tue, 15 Sep 1998, Simpson wrote:
> A couple of years ago, I heard Gary Paulson speak. He repeated a theme
> I have often heard or seen in print by other famous people - that he was
> a lost soul, surely headed on the road to a disastrous life, when a
> Children's librarian took an interest in him and literally (sorry,
> couldn't resist the pun!) turned his life around. I wonder how many
> people ever credit an Adult Reference librarian for changing the
> direction of their lives? What we do IS important - never doubt it!
> Martha Simpson, Stratford (CT) Library
>
Ray Bradbury has nice story about a librarian in his story "The
Exchange"
found in "Quicker than the Eye"
David Serchay
Youth Services Librarian
Deerfield Beach Library
Broward County, Florida
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Date: Thu, 17 Sep 1998 16:41:32 -0700
From: Celeste Fong <cmfong@ci.ontario.ca.us>
Subject: Re: States Books
A Children's Press rep. stopped by our library & showed us some titles in
the new America the Beautiful series. They are very nice in format, with updated
color photographs. I, too, think that this is an excellent series.
Celeste Fong
So. Ontario Branch Library
Ontario, CA
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 07:20:20 -0400
From: Toni Buzzeo <buzzeocyll@mix-net.net>
Subject: State books
I agree with Marcia Pryluck who suggested purchase of the CELEBRATE THE
STATES books published by Benchmark/Marshall Cavendish. While I am fond
of the old AMERICA THE BEAUTIFUL books by Children's Press, the newer
FROM SEA TO SHINING SEA is not quite as "meaty" as CELEBRATE THE
STATES
and the Raintree/Steck-Vaughn PORTRAIT OF AMERICA is disappointing in
the amount of material omitted that students require for report writing.
Toni Buzzeo, MA, MLIS
Longfellow School Library Media Center
Portland, ME
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:15:27 -0400
From: Melody Allen <melodyan@lori.state.ri.us>
Subject: RE: J and YA Duplicate Shelving
It would seem to make sense in many cases to put a hardcover copy in children's
and a paperback in YA.
Melody Allen
Melodyan@lori.state.ri.us
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 08:11:19 -0500
From: "Sean P. S. George" <sgeorge@stcharles.lib.la.us>
Subject: Non-fiction series recommendations
I was just reading the discussion of recommended States series, and =
thinking about other times that I have had similar questions about =
non-fiction series topics for which I have trouble finding reviews (Pro =
sports, Nations of the World, etc.). Does anyone know of a good source =
for information about these types of materials. I know that Booklist =
runs a periodic "Series Roundup" column, but it only covers the =
fresh-off-the-press items. It occurs to me that there should be a =
website, or other resource, with and annotated listing of
"recommended" =
non-fiction series arranged by subject/topic.
If anyone is aware of such a resource, I would appreciate info about it. =
If not, I guess I'll start working on one.
Thanks.
<><><><><><><><><><><><>
Sean George
Youth Services Coordinator
St. Charles Parish Library
sgeorge@stcharles.lib.la.us
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 11:18:43 +0000
From: Lisa Payton <ufj000@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: caledar dates
Everyone,
Answers to where to find special calandar dates:
Thanks to everyone for you overwhelming response!
Lisa Payton, Director
Puxico Public Library
Puxico, MO
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A good site on the web that contains interesting occasions that you've
never heard of is:
http://www.dailyglobe.com/september.html
the month.html part can be any month. Try it and see how you like it.
Darla
Darla Linville
dlinville@nypl.org
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Another neat source of obscure events is a desk calendar from Upstart.
A couple of years ago, we got a teacher and librarian's desk
calendar...it is neat. It has a lot of authors and famous people's
birthdays, as well as the themes for the month (ex. "national cheese
month").
Hope it helped!
Kathy T
"Kathy Tyson" <kathyt@lvccld.lib.nv.us>
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Two resources that come to mind immediately are Chase's
Calendar of Events and the magazine Copycat. Both have loads of
trivia-type stuff that add a bit of spice to a calendar. Hope that
helps. Margi.
"Marjorie Karp" <karp@tln.lib.mi.us>
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To my mind, the absolute best resource is _Chase's Calendar of
Events_. This annual is fairly pricey -- $59.95 -- but worth every
penny. This year's edition (1998) came with a free CD-Rom which
enhanced the product greatly! It is published by Contemporary
Publishing Company out of Chicago.
"Mary R. Voors" <Mvoors@acpl.lib.in.us>
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Hope all your Calendar Days are wonderful!
Lisa Payton, Director
Puxico Public Library
PO Box 65
Puxico MO 63960
573-222-3855
ufj000@mail.connect.more.net
"...the Goblin's gonna get'cha
If you
Don't
Watch
Out!"
from Little Orphan Annie by James Whitcomb Riley
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:32:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Patricia Hay/GBPL <hayp@snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Audiobook suggestions - responses
>From Jeri Kladder, Columbus Metropolitan Library:
The Amber Brown series by Paula Danziger is a big hit here. There are
Goosebumps on Audio if you want to go that route. Adventures in Odyssey
are also extremely popular among the Christian readers, many of whom are
homeschoolers in our area.
>From Pam Henley, Bozeman Public Librfary:
I've just ordered the Redwall series on tape because the books are so
popular. Make sure you get the complete set. Someone before me ordered
just one tape, which turned out to be just the first section of the
"Redwall" book - very frustrating to the patron who was expecting to
hear
the entire story! We also have The Lion, The Witch and The Wardrobe - I'd
like the entire Chronicles of Narnia but haven't looked for it.
>From Elaine Miller, Westbank Community Library:
I would really recommend looking at the catalog from Listening Library.
They have some excellent titles and replacements are FREE! No matter how
old and no matter where you acquired them! This part of the collection is
extremely popular. They are great for travel but are also requested by
parents with AD/LD children.
>From Georgi Curcio, East islip Public Library:
I can't recommend any specific titles, but the Recorded Books Company puts
out excellent quality tapes. Great readers, and they are NOT abridged.
However, they are on the expensive side. I'm sorry I can't give you any
more information about the company - except that they offer quite a few of
the most popular YA titles.
>From Maureen Lerch, Louisville Public Library:
I would recommend starting with the Newbery list and try to get those on
audio. I would also recommend getting unabridged versions when available.
>From Bridgett Johnson, Lewistown Public Library:
I only have a small budget but I am bulding a pretty good audio
collection. Lynn Reid Banks' books are very popular, old classics are
good, Where the Red Fern Grows, Sign of the Beaver, Old Yeller, Gulliver's
Travels, Sherlock Holmes. Redwall series is very popular. Bruce
Coville, Roald Dahl, Madeline L'Engle, Cooney are popular. Boxcar
children, Betsy Byars' mysteries, the set about Beethoven Lives Upstairs
and Tchaikovsky Discovers America and there is one other are very
popular. Basically I've found my population like to use them traveling, or
for late bed time listening. So they like to have the longer tapes that
they couldn't afford to buy. They also like the older classics a lot,
especially if it's parents picking out the tapes. They tell me that
their whole family loves the stories. For the little kids, the
music-songs are popular and the book and tape together seem to be the most
checked out. Movie tie-ins are very popular too.
I order a lot from Listening Library (1-800-243-4504) because 1. They
offer a good and popular selection and 2. They replace tapes for free for
alifetime. That saves a lot of hassle especially if you don't keep trck
of exactly when they were ordered. Another one that has a good selection
is Recorded Books, Inc. But they will only replace the tape the 1st year
free, then it's $8.00.
Avoid the tapes that are partially recorded unless you have special
requests for them or mark them separately. They are very frustrating when
you've checked them out for a long car trip or just listening while you
are doing something else and the book just quits, telling you to read
the rest of the story.
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Thank you to all the respondents!
Patty Hay
Reference and Youth Services Librarian
Gulf Beaches Public Library
Madeira Bech, Fl
hayp@snoopy.tblc.lib.fl.us
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:15:07 -0700
From: Rae Kozloff <alib2@sos.net>
Subject: PR for new library
We are starting the process of planning for a new library, and I have
been asked
by the fundraising committee to help prepare a flyer/brochure to be
given to
potential donors (e.g., wealthy private citizens, service clubs, and
local businesses).
It should have brief but convincing arguments/statistics as to why we
need a new building. Later on, we will do something similar for the
general public who will be voting on a bond issue. If your library has
gone through this process recently and if you have samples of PR
materials you used, could you please mail or fax me copies??? We would
really appreciate it!
Thank you,
Rae Kozloff
Anacortes Public Library
1209 - 9th Street
Anacortes, WA 98221
fax: 360-293-1929
alib2@sos.net
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 16:46:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Carol L. Plummer" <cmaxx@ada.lib.id.us>
Subject: Re:
VERY WELL STATED ANNIE. After twentysome years in public education, and
lots of college education - experience and professional, energy and
creativity-to offer library youth services programs, I find that YS
librarians are under paid and lumped in with daycare center workers, who
are also underpaid and not valued for the brilliant work they do with
children - especially when children's brains are being "wired" for
their
adult successes or failures.
Carol L. Plummer
cmaxx@ada.lib.id.us
Ada Community Library
10664 West Victory Road
Boise, ID 83709
PHONE: (208) 362-0181 ext. 30
FAX: (208) 362-0303
On Sat, 12 Sep 1998, Annie Leon wrote:
> I think the disregard in which anyone in this country who works with
> children is held is an indictment of the values of our entire society.
> I used to think it was a "pink collar ghetto" thing--fields with
mostly
> women only seem to experience salary increases when men start taking the
> jobs. But I think that children are very much throwaways in our society,
> with hardly any rights or status. Bravo to the teachers who--in some
> areas-- are finally getting the respect (and pay) they deserve. I am
> always enraged by the thoughtless comments of some of my so-called
> enlightened "adult" colleagues regarding Youth Services
specialists. If
> administrators amd analysts who are puzzled over why we have a critical
> shortage of YS Librarians would get their heads out of the clouds for a
> minute, they'd see that the lack of support and respect is intolerable,
> especially in a field where we earn the same salary as an "adult"
> reference librarians yet are expected--in addition to providing quality
> reference service, collection development etc.--to create original
> programming 5-8 times a week, plus continual bibliographic
> instruction/tours etc to students, AND take home all the
> craft-preparation,prop-building etc. that goes along with providing
> literary experiences for youngsters. I don't know of that any other
> entry-level librarian category that takes home as much work as we do.
> Like teachers and cops, ours is a job you've got to love to stick
> with--but we really need to get a profession-wide conversation going in
> order to improve the perception of the work we do, and it's value to
> society as a whole.--Now, I need to go take a nap--all this ranting has
> worn me out!
>
> that's my story and I'm stickin' to it!
>
>
>
>
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