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Date: Tue, 22 Sep 1998 19:25:19 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #446
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 19:21:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: "real" reference librarians
On Thu, 17 Sep 1998, Walter Minkel wrote:
> As for the salaries of public sector employees problem, I think that will
> always be with us as long as voters can approve library bonds and levies,
> and as long as we have city and county governments who approve budgets.
> Many of these people don't understand what is "professional"
about being a
> librarian. We all need to make more [self-confident] noise, I think. --W
Goodness gracious! I hope the voters (myself included, of course :-) will
*always* be able to approve bonds & levies & various other forms of
taxation!
What I meant about underlying economic issues (any B.S./B.A.s in econ
among us?) was the source of our salaries. We don't generate income, so
no matter how well we perform or how important our jobs, our pay is still
tied to the economic health of the community being taxed. Then there's the
old conundrum of why performers may be millionaires but teachers may not
earn more than 40K - if that - even in a community which cares
passionately about children - 30% of their income may go to teachers
salaries and only 1/2 of one percent to, say, a performer's CDs, but the
math is inescapable.
Kirsten (Who nonetheless agrees with you that respect bordering on
awe might be nice, too :-)
kirstedw@kcls.org
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 18:05:44 -0500
From: Carol Melton <cmelton@mindspring.com>
Subject: Teen Advisory Board
Subject: Teen Advisory Board
I am interested in hearing from librarians who currently have a Teen
Advisory Board in their libraries. I would like information on how you
originally set up your boards, the goals, the things you have accomplished,
and any advice on the pit falls of this endeavor.
Please reply to me directly so as not to bog down the listserv!
Carol Melton
Hoover Public Library
Hoover, AL
cmelton@mindspring.com
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Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 23:31:35 -0500
From: "Earl & Kirsten Martindale" <earlmart@win.bright.net>
Subject: Pay for Children's Librarians
I appreciate all of the banter about pay....I am about to resign from a =
job I have held for 8 1/2 years, due my spouse's transfer to another =
state. I've loved every aspect of my job, but my parting request for my =
colleagues is that our position be compensated at a greater rate than =
the janitor. I am not kidding...and I hope this gives someone a =
laugh...it's my pet peeve!
=20
Kirsten Martindale
Menomonie Public Library
Menomonie, WI=20
earlmart@win.bright.net=20
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 9:29:35 -0400
From: "Sarah Cornish, Children's Librarian" <VHPL_SC@CLAMS.LIB.MA.US>
Subject: Temporary Collection Reduction
Hello-
This message is being posted to both PUBYAC and PUBLIB, please excuse
duplication.
We are in need of some advice. Our library is finally about to begin a big
renovation/addition project which requires our vacating the building for up
to a whole year. During that time we will most likely be in a space which is
about 40 x 60 feet ( a portable classroom). It's possible that we will be
in a slightly larger space, though we're not sure yet. Right now our
collection is approximately 32-38,000 volumes. Obviously we can't take
everything with us to our temporary location. Also, we will continue to
purchase new materials during that year.
We (the adult/reference librarian and I, children's) have some ideas on how
to choose what we will bring with us: extremely popular items, new books,
key reference books, comprehensive works. I thought I might also find out what
topics will be assigned during the school year and make certain to bring enough
information to cover those needs.
We'd like to know what things you would consider essential to bring and how
you would decide on it.
Thanks so much for your input! Please reply directly to me.
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SCORNISH@CLAMS.LIB.MA.US
Sarah Cornish - Children's Librarian
Vineyard Haven Public Library VOICE:(508)696-4211
RFD Box 139A FAX: (508)696-7495
Vineyard Haven, MA 02568
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 06:44:08 PDT
From: "nancy massnick" <nmassnick@hotmail.com>
Subject: Audio books
Hi everyone - I just wanted to add that my eighth grade son loves to
listen to audio books when he is mowing lawns in the summer. I have
been recommending this to kids and parents, and it seems to be catching
on. He has listened to a lot of books that I don't think he would have
read otherwise.
Nancy Massnick
Hartland Public Library
Hartland, Wisconsin
Where he can soon listen to them shoveling snow! Do tape players work
below zero?!!
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Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 09:33:01 -0500
From: John Albee <albee@revealed.net>
Subject: Historical Romance?, Saturday, September 19, 1998
Does anyone know of a listserv which specializes in Historical Romance?
Thanks. Bye. John
John Albee mailto:albee@revealed.net
Teacher, Davenport Community Schools
Website: Needle in a CyberStack - the InfoFinder
http://home.revealed.net/albee/
address: 736 Westerfield Road
Davenport, Iowa 52806 phone: 319-386-2171
We are all Works In Progress...
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 10:47:10, -0500
From: FLKE88B@prodigy.com (MISS MELISSA F WALSH)
Subject: Is anybody out there.
Is anybody out there.
I have just recently sighned on to this listserve. As a childrend
librarian in training I am interested in learning more about this
field and about the people that make it up. I would love to hear from
someone. Please drop me a line.
- ---Misa
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Date: Sat, 19 Sep 1998 11:44:11 -0500
From: Peggy Northcraft <mdu002@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: Re:
I've been reading the comments about the respect or lack thereof of YS
professionals by our fellow professionals. and I agree how sad that we
have to face this issue inour own workplaces. Years ago we did a Librarian
for a day program in a public library, perhaps we need to ask directors for
a Change Places Day. My guess is that the YS people will adapt more
quickly to the AS work than vice versa. Why? Because we have to be so
adaptable in our work all the time. Few people stop torealize that it is
far easier to look up the answer and give it out than to teach the person
how to find his/her own answers. In YS work we do this on the spot,
mini-workshop thing all the time. As educators, we are obliged to teach
the skill not just give the answer. Scenario: "Stand by a computer
watching a child laboriously search for the keys, as well as how to spell
the word. Do not do it for him/her, do not tear out your hair, do not
scream." Feel familiar?
Re: Salaries and respect. We live in a society that pays lip service to
valuing children. Those of us who work with these undervalued members of
society are allowed to call ourselves professionals as long as we don't
expect to be taken seriously? Don't give in, learn some jargon as someone
else suggested, listen to yourself - do you say "I'm just a children's
librarian"? Join community organizations, talk about the serious aspects
of the work we do. Whe it comes to comparing salaries, compare your salary
to the salary of someone on the same management level in city/county
government, not to other librarians.
Now let me open another can of worms - if you have worked for severl years
in public libraries, you will have a very hard time getting a job in an
academic library. Why? We in the public library field are general
practicioners, but we can specialize with little difficulty. I've made the
switch both ways and I can tell you from general to specialized is much
harder to do. Comments?
Peggy
Margaret "Peggy" Northcraft
Children's Librarian
Hannibal Public Library
Hannibal MO
mdu002@mail.connect.more.net
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Date: Sun, 20 Sep 1998 15:17:31 -0500
From: "Kathleen Baxter" <kathyb@anoka.lib.mn.us>
Subject: books on states
When you recommend titles, are you doing fact checks on them first? Or =
do you just like the looks of the books? =20
We were disturbed to find a few years ago that the most recent edition =
of America the Beautiful: Minnesota contained a wildly erroneous piece =
of information. A gubernatorial candidate who dropped out of the race =
after he was accused of child sexual abuse was listed as the current =
governor of Minnesota! He never was. The man who won that election was =
not in the book. =20
Elaine Pascoe's FIRST FACTS ABOUT THE PRESIDENTS (Blackbirch, 1996) =
includes the information that Dan Quayle's home state is Illinois, an =
error which caused one of our patrons to ask us to discard all of the =
copies of the book. =20
I do wish these books were better reviewed, or that some knowledgable =
state=20
historian was always asked to check the facts on them. =20
Take a look at the books on your own state and see if they are accurate. =
I know I was bugged that Laura Ingalls Wilder is listed as a prominent =
resident of Kansas in the America the Beautiful series (she lived there =
in the events depicted in LITTLE HOUSE ON THE PRAIRIE), but the =
equivalent title on Minnesota never mentions her, although she lived in =
my home town, Walnut Grove, for longer than she lived in Kansas. =20
AAARRGGHH. I just hope people who recommend the books are recommending =
them on the basis of hard facts, not just gut feelings. =20
Kathy Baxter
Anoka County Library in Minnesota where Arne Carlson is the governor
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 08:12:09 -0400
From: Kathy Kirchoefer <kkirchoe@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Unattended children in the library
Hello all,
I am a graduate student at the University of Maryland and am doing a
project concerning unattended children in the librarian. I also work as a
children's librarian so this is a topic of much concern to me. I would
like to find out library policies regarding unattended children in the
library AND about any programs your library might have started to address
the issue of latchkey kids in the library (afterschool programs, programs
on days school is out, etc.).
Please email me privately so as not to clog the list!
Thanks!
Kathy Kirchoefer
kkirchoe@wam.umd.edu
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 07:17:58 -0500
From: Georgianne Schau <gschau5@gte.net>
Subject: Re: Jim Aylesworth
I have seen Jim Aylesworth twice in recent years. At the time, he was
teaching 1st grade part-time in the Chicago area. He spoke first to
teachers and librarians at the Illinois Reading Council in Springfield,
IL. His school stories are funny and insightful, and anyone who works
with children hears the truth of what he is saying about literature and
children.
The second time I saw him, was at the Mid-State Reading Council in
Bloomington, IL where he spoke to a group of children. He is, of
course, wonderful with children and communicates well with them. He
reads his stories, tells how they came about, and sings many of his
books, as well.
I'm sure you will be pleased with your time with him.
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:59:12 -0400
From: "Jerry Kuntz" <jkuntz@ansernet.rcls.org>
Subject: Kid's web pages that SHOULD exist
During maintenance of the KidsClick! search engine
(http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/KidsClick!/), I've noted several subject areas
that are crying out for decent web treatments at the elementary/middle
school level. Examples:
How rocks are formed
Arbor Day
Astrology
Aztecs
Babysitting
Coping with Divorce
Ideas for Decorating Kid's Rooms
etc.
We plan to start a page listing these topics as an encouragement to web
developers young and old. We'll call it "What SHOULD be new!".
If you've noticed any subject areas in which you've unsucessfully
searched the web for sites appropriate to children, please let me know! Send
the topic to:
Jerry Kuntz
Electronic Resources Consultant
Ramapo Catskill Library System
jkuntz@rcls.org
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 10:38:17 -0500
From: Paula Lopatic <paulal@alpha1.rpls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Aylesworth programs
Let me add my praise for Jim Aylesworth's program performances. Two of
our elementary schools hired him about five year's ago. He gave two
programs in the gyms for children in kindergarten, 1st, and 2nd grades.
The kids were on the gym floor for 45minutes to an hour and there was
almost no squirming!
Aylesworth's message was "keep trying, don't give up". He talked (at
the children's level) about all the rejection slips he's received and how
hard it is when a publisher does not think his book is good enough, but
that he keeps trying.
When he reads his books aloud he infused them with a great deal of
rhythm and energy. GREAT GREAT GREAT
He was at my public library for autographing in the evening, and did a
short (20 min.) program for the families.
I hope you are able to share him with your community.
Paula Lopatic
Vespasian Warner Public Library
Clinton, IL
paulal@rpls.lib.il.us
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:30:21 -0700
From: "Children's Collection Development Co-ordinator"
<scdlccdc@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Jim Aylesworth
Jim Alyesworth will be at the Stark County District Library on Monday,
October 5, 1998 at 7:00 PM. We are very excited about his visit. I have
heard good things about his programs and enjoy his books! I'll let you
know how the program goes!
Edlyn Theiss
Children's Coordinator/Collection Development
Stark County District Library
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 12:32:44 +0000
From: pprevost@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us (Patrice Prevost)
Subject: Blind volunteers
Hi Carol Chatfield,
Here at the Gwinnett County Public Library we have used several
special needs volunteers so I thought I'd pass along some ideas.
I think sight-impaired volunteers might be able to act as greeters
to new customers, highlighting where videos, books on tape, tax
forms, voter registration forms or copiers might be found, providing
details on special events, or handing out bookmarks or stickers to
kids.
Your volunteer could help align books on the shelves - stand them up,
pull the spines to the very edge of the shelf. Our staff really
appreciates having this done. It is aesthetically appealing and staff
simply does not have time to do it.
Perhaps your volunteer could bundle forms or brochures into stacks of
100 or so for storage. Once the initial bundle is made the volunteer
can estimate (by touch) whether the subsequent bundles are within
that range.
Another idea might be to have your volunteer separate new library
cards. The cards arrive on perforated plastic sheets. Individually
these are not very exciting ideas but perhaps you will find them
helpful.
Thanks,
Patrice Prevost
Patrice Prevost,Volunteer Coordinator
Gwinnett County Public Library
1001 Lawrenceville Highway
Lawrenceville,GA 30045
(770) 822-5375
Fax (770) 822-5379
pprevost@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us.
"Life's blows cannot break a person whose
spirit is warmed at the fire of enthusiasm."
Norman Vincent Peale
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 01:25:11 -0500
From: Joanne Ferguson Cavanaugh <joannef@omaha.lib.ne.us>
Subject: Re: Young Adult Lock-ins
I am a Young Adult Librarian with the Omaha Public Library, Florence Branch. We
are considering a YA Lock-in at the end of this year, which will be a first for
OPL. Would like to hear from all who have done a YA Lock-in at
their library. We could use advice, ideas for programming, advice on legalities
to consider, info on the most successful parts of your Lock-in, info on how many
times your library has offered a Lock-in, what years, number who
attended, etc. We have received requests to plan a YA Lock-in through a recent
YA survey, and also through our Young Adult Advisory Group recently formed at
this branch. We have a tentative okay from the Administration, but I
have to write up a more formal plan to present to our Executive Council which is
to include documentation of other libraries who have successfully done this. In
Library Literature I only located two citations. I am thinking
that other libraries may have had them, but it's not in the literature. So
please be as specific as possible. Thanks!! Reply to me by E-mail, please.
Also my mailing address is given below, in the event you have any copies of
materials you can send.
Reply to:
Mary Henriksen
Young Adult Librarian
Florence Branch Library
2920 Bondesson Street
Omaha, NE 68112-1822
henriksn@omaha.lib.ne.us
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 13:50:05 -0500
From: Marilyn Zaruba <fmpl@startext.net>
Subject: States Books
I read with interest the brief discussion on states books, but I have been
unable to draw a conclusion that will enable me to make a decision. The
following is a brief listing of the discussion as I received it:
America the Beautiful, Second Series (Children's Press) good set, but being
published 10 at a time? 144p each, colorful, grades 5 - 8
Our Nation set, answers most of the children's questions for reports
(Publisher?)
(Is the One Nation [Capstone Press/Children's Press] set the same as Our
Nation?)
Celebrate the States (Benchmark/Marshall Cavendish) said to be well-written,
factual, with both history & geography. Another poster said they have some
serious factual errors. (Since I am in Texas, we wouldn't want something with
such an obvious mistake as putting the Congress Street Bridge with bats in
Houston instead of Austin.)
>From Sea to Shining Sea (is this still by Children's Press & is it a
replacement for America the Beautiful) but not as meaty as Celebrate the States
Portrait of American (Raintree/Steck-Vaughn) disappointing with omitted
material needed by students for reports
Help! I am still confused & we need to buy then ASAP. Any other opinions
would be appreciated.
Marilyn Zaruba
Mansfield Public Library
fmpl@startext.net
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 11:39:31 -0600
From: Mary K Chelton <mchelton@pop.erols.com>
Subject: Fwd: Books on PTSD
I don't know if Fred forwarded this to PUBYAC, but I am in case he did not.
He is the creator of the national Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder database
for the Veterans Administration. Coincidentally, he was the VOYA science
fiction expert columnist for many years (a position now held by Bill
White), which is how I know him.
I forwarded a recent PUBYAC post to him and this is his cc to me in response.
Mary K.
>Date: 16 Sep 98 08:54:25 EDT
>From: National.Center.for.PTSD@Dartmouth.EDU (National Center for PTSD)
>Subject: Books on PTSD
>To: nbclsref@sonic.net
>Cc: mchelton@erols.com
>MIME-Version: 1.0
>
>Dear Ms Hewlett,
>
>Your recent post to PUBYAC was forwarded to me by Mary Kay Chelton.
>
>There isn't that much literature on PTSD for young children or for their
>parents, and much of what is out there deals with child sexual abuse or
>the intergenerational trauma associated with war or the Holocaust. The
>only potentially useful book in our PTSD Resource Center collection is
>"The Scared Child: Helping Kids Overcome Traumatic Events" by
Barbara
>Brooks and Paula M. Siegel (Wiley, 1996; ISBN 0-471-08284-8), which is
>written for parents of children from preschool age through adolescence.
>At the end there's a brief list of "further reading" which
includes both
>books for adults and "to read to children."
>
>I haven't read this book, and I don't regard myself as capable of
>evaluating it, so please don't take this message as a recommendation. You
>may wish to consult the customary reviewing sources before purchasing it
>or recommending it to your patron.
>
>For a list of recommended books on PTSD for public libraries, see our Web
>site at <http://www.dartmouth.edu/dms/ptsd/Unending_Trauma.html>. This
>list covers adult books. I'm not as familiar with juvenile literature on
>PTSD as I'd like to be, so if you receive any suggestions from children's
>librarians I'd be grateful if you could pass them on to me.
>
>--Fred Lerner, D.L.S., Information Scientist
>National Center for Post-Traumatic Stress Disorder
>VA Medical Center (116D)
>White River Junction, Vermont 05009
>(802) 296-5132 Fax (802) 296-5135
>fred.lerner@dartmouth.edu
>Visit our Web site at
><http://www.dartmouth.edu/dms/ptsd/>
>
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Mary K. Chelton PhD
Associate Professor
Queens College/GSLIS
65-30 Kissena Blvd.
254 Rosenthal Library
Flushing, NY 11367
Voice: (718) 997-3790
Fax: (718) 997-3797
Home: 35 Mercury Avenue
East Patchogue, NY 11772
e-mail: mchelton@erols.com
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Date: Mon, 21 Sep 1998 16:37:08 -0400 (EDT)
From: Seeger <eseeger@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: [none]
I am a student at the Palmer School of Library and Information Science. I
am intersted in becoming a childrens librarian so any information, ideas,
or job openings I would love to here about them.
Thanks,
Erika
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