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Date: Fri, 25 Sep 1998 13:04:20 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #450

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 17:44:01 -0500 (CDT)
From: Sue Ridnour <sridnour@metro.lib.ci.carrollton.tx.us>
Subject: Fractured Fairy Tale oops

I forgot to mention that I *have* seen the article in the October 1997
School Library Journal. Thanks to those who reminded me.
Sue

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Sue Ridnour sridnour@metro.lib.ci.carrollton.tx.us
Public Services Manager Voice 972.466.4811
Carrollton Libraries Fax 972.394.2877
3030 N. Josey Lane, #130
Carrollton, Texas 75007-5341
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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 21:30:05 EDT
From: CCullum621@aol.com
Subject: RE: "Real Librarians" Update

Thank you to all who responded directly or indirectly to my posting about the
attitudes I have dealt with as a children's librarian. Some of your postings
I
"carelessly" left around in break rooms or elsewhere and they were read by
some of the staff. Some didn't comment but others (including some library
assistants)
commented on how surprised they were that this was so world wide and said they
didn't realize I felt this way. They offered a supporting hand and said they
would indeed want to be more careful of comments like "Look she playing again,
etc.".
It's a small start with some.

Another sad note though is this year Edison did away with all the elementary
school librarians. (Of course they still have high school librarians) but
apparently they feel a library clerk would be enough for little children.
Same attitude again. Of course, I have already felt a nudge from the teachers
(Remember I work for the Public Library, not the school) in that I had
requests to come and read stories to their Kindergarten classes twice a month
and to talk to the other grades throughout the year because the teacher feel
the loss of their librarian.

A sad commentary on the township :(

Well thanks again for your support it helped a great deal more than you will
know.

Carolyn N. Cullum
Edison, NJ
CCullum@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 23 Sep 1998 23:02:40 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: the internet and children

On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Kurt Roth wrote:

> Has the internet been a problem for the children as far as inappropriate
> material being accessed in the public libraries? Or have librarians found
> that children are exploring the parts of their world that interest them
> other than inappropriate material? Are many public libraries using filters
> on the internet or eliminating access to the internet altogether?
>
>
My library recently got full graphic internet access (before that it was
text only). I can say that it has helped me find stuff for kids, and I'm
sure has added to thier reports and projects. As far as "on thier own"
searching, despite no filters, I have not seen any problems. Sites
accessed include ones for The Backstreet boys and other bands, as well as
a site that gave math help (I think it was called Dr. Math).

And with a hurricane heading my way, I'm glad to have the maps on the web.


David Serchay
Youth Services Librarian
Deerfield Beach Library
Broward County, Florida

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 08:13:59 -0500
From: Marilyn Zaruba <fmpl@startext.net>
Subject: Re: Banned Books Week

We have displayed banned books many times & no one has ever decided that a book
should be banned because of it. Quite the contrary, people are shocked that so
many harmless books (the Bible, for one) have been included in these attempts in
the past.

Our patrons have been quite positive about our 'no censorship' policy.

Good luck

Marilyn
Mansfield Public Library

brazell@InfoAve.Net wrote:

> Hi All,
> I have been planning a display for banned books week
> of children's and juvenile titles that have been challenged.

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 10:38:00 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Diane P. Monnier" <dmonnier@capaccess.org>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #447

Are you having space problems? No, I'm not looking for help with
aliens. I am looking for help with managing the space, or lack of space,
in the library - especially in the area reserved for service to children
and young adults. Tearing down walls, building a new building is not an
option, but what other creative ideas have you tried to create more space
for collection, equipment, whatever. At its annual conference in May,
the Maryland Library Association plans to host a program addressing the
issue of "No-space Space Planning". We are looking for speakers,
suggestions, anything. Can any of you help? Diane Monnier, Bethesda
Regional Library - reply here or directly to me at dmonnier@capaccess.org

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:02:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mary Johnson (amk)" <mjohnson@wlsmail.wls.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: the internet and children

Hello, Kurt. Actually, we've been very fortunate; we've had open access
to the internet for over a year now and I can count the glaringly
inappropriate uses on the fingers of one hand. You have to expect that
angry, mixed-up teens will try to bend the rules once in a while (the one
young man who rinted out a pornographic picture was troublesome in other
ways, too), and it's not good to overreact to that. Mostly, what the
kids have used the net for is -
Beanie babies, homework sites, favorite TV shows, sports teams, actors
and actresses (Leo!), Beanie Babies, music, and more Beanie Babies!

In other words, kids use th net in much the way adults do - for
entertainment, to explore interests, and finally for research. The major
problem we've had is their desire for chat, which we officially don't
allow, but which some of them do anyway. We've got 3 terminals in the
ref. room, under the eye of the librarian, so it's easy to see wen a kid
is abusing his/her time online. If it goes on too long, we gently remind
them of the rules. We're strongly opposed to any form of censorship, and
believe libraries must offer access to this new info source for those who
couldn't afford it at home.

That's our policy. Hope it helps.
Mary Johnson, YA librarian, NOrth Castle Public Library, Armonk, NY
(mjohnson@wls.lib.ny.us)

On Fri, 18 Sep 1998, Kurt Roth wrote:

> Has the internet been a problem for the children as far as inappropriate
> material being accessed in the public libraries? Or have librarians found
> that children are exploring the parts of their world that interest them
> other than inappropriate material? Are many public libraries using filters
> on the internet or eliminating access to the internet altogether?
>
>
>

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 11:21:02 -0500
From: schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us
Subject: Thanks for Ring a Ring

Anyone have a source where (from which?) I can get Bev Bos audio tapes?
Sounds like she's a wonder, but to this point I haven't been able to
figure out where to send my money. Please contact me directly - TIA.

Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
schachtc@LCM.macomb.lib.mi.us

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Date: Thu, 24 Sep 1998 18:39:31 -0500
From: Janet Marnatti <marnattij@clpgh.org>
Subject: Library Booths

Hi all,

Lately we've been asked by a few community groups to participate in
"open-house" events in which the library would be given a booth. Besides
having some pamphlets, program announcements, library card information, and
maybe a few items to display we haven't come up with anything to compete with
the balloon-animal crafters, live birds from our local aviary, fresh bread from
the local bakery, etc.

We've tried to have storytelling performances at these events also, but because
the booths don't close while we are doing our thing, we don't seem to draw
anyone.

Has anyone had a particularly successful display, activity or idea that we
might be able to borrow. We need and want to be included in these events.

I'd be happy to summarize for the group if there is interest.

TIA
Janet Marnatti
Children's Librarian
Carnegie Library of Pittsburgh
Allegheny Regional Branch
marnattij@clpgh.org

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Date: 24 Sep 98 17:00:13 PDT
From: Carol Exner <crexner@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [the internet and children]

Dear Kurt,
At our branch where we are a test site for the Internet, we have found
the kids looking at everything BUT improper materials. They seem to know that
this is a gift, not a right, and they can blow it pretty easily. The funniest
ones are the friends who get on the same sites at side-by-side terminals and
comment to one another.
Having said all that, let me make two caveats: (1) The terminal screens
face the circ desk. It's pretty easy to monitor what the kids are looking at.
(2) Ask me this again when we move into our Internet room in a week or two!

Carol R. Exner
Children's Librarian, Parkwood Branch
Durham Co. (NC) Library

Kurt Roth wrote:
Has the internet been a problem for the children as far as inappropriate
material being accessed in the public libraries? Or have librarians found
that children are exploring the parts of their world that interest them
other than inappropriate material? Are many public libraries using filters
on the internet or eliminating access to the internet altogether?



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