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Date: Wed, 14 Oct 1998 15:29:09 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 10:47:57 PDT
From: "mary arnold" <mjarnold@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Graphic Novels for YAs

>
>We are beginning a Graphic Novel/Comic collection based on several
requests from our YAs. Does the collective brain have any
experience/recommendations for this type of a collection? Please reply
directly to TheLibrarian@LycosMail.com. Compiled results will be posted
back to the listserv.
>
>Thanks!
>Steve Miller & Barb Tack,
>

Just a note! Kat Kan, who writes a column for VOYA on graphic
novels, is scheduled to speak Thursday, Oct 22 during the upcoming
Ohio Library Council annual conference in Columbus. I hope someone
(maybe you!) from your library system will be there--it promises
to be a great slate of programs for YA library staff.


Mary Arnold MLS
Maple Heights Library
5225 Library Lane
Maple Heights OH 44137
mjarnold@hotmail.com



the end of reading is not more books but more life
"my opinions are mine, all mine!"


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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:11:38 -0400
From: Simpson <jsimpson03@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Listening Centers

Hi All:

I'm posting this again because I didn't get any respses the first time
(except for some people who wanted me to pass on the info I got).
So here goes:

I need some info about setting up a Listening Center in our
public library's children's Dept. Have any of you done this? I would
like suggestions on what listening center equipment to buy. I've looked
thru some catalogs that we have, but everything I've seen looks like it
would be too easy for the kids to pick up and walk off with. I want
something that has a cassette player and CD, that can be bolted to a
table or installed permanently somehow. I do not want a boom box with
a couple of headphones, which is what I've seen so far. I would like to
set this up on a wooden table we have that is already attached to a
wall. Also, is sound-proofing necessary? I expect one or two patrons
will be using the center at a time, rather that a whole class of kids.
The center would be mostly for pre- or beginning readers to listen to
books on tape while they read along, so the equipment should be easy for
little kids to use, and durable.
Or if you know of any companies that sell listening center equipment,
please tell me how to get their catalogs. You can email me
directly at: jsimpson03@snet.net
Thanks! Martha Simpson, Stratford Library

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:25:53 -0400
From: Grace Rappa <grappa@erols.com>
Subject: Re: access policy for minors

Rosalie Olds wrote:
>
>
> For my class on intellectual
> freedom I am doing a presentation on the how right to intellectual freedom
> for children and young adults is provided for in public libraries. What I
> am interested in is a sample of library policy regarding children's and
> young adult's use of the library throught the United States. <snip>


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Hi,
I work in a public library in NJ. We don't really have any policies for
children and young adults. They can come to the counter and check out
any book they want. As far as the videos are concerned, under the age
of 18 children are not allow to take out R rated movies. The computer
system has a qualifer of JU for those under 18 that restricts them from
checking them out. We just obtained a CD collection and found that on
the front of some CD s it states"Parental advisory" or something like
that. We pulled them from the shelf and are trying to figure out what
to do. I think they might do the same as the videos. If you have any
more questions let me know.

Andrea
Camden County Library
Voorhees, NJ

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:33:56 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kim Kietzman <kkietzma@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: Strollers in the Library

We are in the basement, but ADA requires that we have an accessible
entrance and an elevator - no problems here.

Kim Kietzman
Assistant Children's Librarian
Rock Island Public Library
401 19th Street
Rock Island, IL 61201
(309)788-7627

"Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of the
Rock Island Public Library."

On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Diane Mayr wrote:

>
>
> jvandcar@park-ridge.lib.il.us wrote:
>
> > I wonder what other odd, anti customer service rules people have seen(at
> > other libraries and not our own I hope), it would be fun to hear about them.
> >
>
> This is not a rule, but I have hard time with all the libraries that have their
> children's rooms in the "basement." Forget about strollers, parents have to
> negotiate stairs with babies, toddlers and books! This seems to be common in
> old libraries in NH, what about in the rest of the country? By the way, I'm
> fortunate not to have the problem in my library!
>
> Diane Mayr
> Nesmith Library
> Windham, NH
> dmayr@library.windham.nh.us
>
>
>

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 20:14:20 -0500
From: oneil <oneil@asbank.com>
Subject: Outreach programs

Hi,
I am taking a course at LSUE with the requirement that the students
interview individuals who are working in a field that we are
particularly interested in.I am very interested in doing library
outreach programs for Head Starts,preK's, kindergartens, day cares, and
special need children.
If this is an area that you are involved in, would you please take a
minute to answer these questions.

How did you get started in this field?
What is the first thing you notice about someone you are interviewing
for a position that involves outreach programs?
What are some questions that you would include in an interview for
someone wishing to do programs for children?
What impresses you in an interview?
What turns you off in an interview?
What advice do you have for someone who wishes to enter this field?

Please reply directly to me, not the listserve!

Thanks a lot for your help!
Sally O'Neil
oneil@asbank.com

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 21:11:47 -0500
From: John Albee <albee@revealed.net>
Subject: New Fiction Website, Monday, October 12, 1998

Hi Folks,

Thought I'd pass this along as a useful tool. I liked it so much I
linked to it in 3 places: on my main page under Very Best on the Web, on
my Reviews & Recommendations Page and my Full Book Page. Bye. John


From: Wendy Friedman <wfriedman@ci.sat.tx.us>


The Fiction staff at San Antonio Public Library invites you to take a look
at our new Fiction website at
http://www.sat.lib.tx.us/Fiction/fictionindex.htm
Lots of annotated booklists, annotated links, and special features related
to Texas and San Antonio fiction and writers. Thanks!

Wendy Friedman
San Antonio Public Library
wfriedman@ci.sat.tx.us

John Albee mailto:albee@revealed.net
Teacher, Davenport Community Schools
Website: Needle in a CyberStack - the InfoFinder
http://home.revealed.net/albee/
address: 736 Westerfield Road
Davenport, Iowa 52806 phone: 319-386-2171

We are all Works In Progress...

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Date: Sat, 10 Oct 1998 14:16:17 -0400
From: Pam Perdue <pamelape@lori.state.ri.us>
Subject: hunt & search books

To Diane Mayr and anyone else who is interested,
Marc Brown, the author of the Arthur series, hides the names of his
children (Tolon, Tucker, & Eliza) on the pages of the Arthur and D.W.
books.

Pam Perdue
East Providence Public Library - RI
pamelape@lori.state.ri.us

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 15:24:08 -0500
From: Linda Shanks <lshanks@carlnet.org>
Subject: dial a story machine alternatives

Dear pubyacers,

We have been getting by on the cheap by using a good old fashioned
answering machine for our service. Now that this machine is dead I'm
finding that all the new models are digital (no tapes) and have about 30
seconds for the out going message. If anyone knows of an answering
machine that's made the "old fashioned way". Please send me the info at
lshanks@carlnet.org

TIA,
Linda Shanks
Flora Monroe Public Library

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 19:58:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Adela Peskorz <peskorza@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: YA program ideas

A great "virtual" adjunct to this is "The Great YA Services Tour" with
cyberhops to great YA programs around the country. It's part of
YALSA's page offerings and can be accessed at:

http://www.leonline.com/yalsa/tour/

Hope that helps.

Adela Peskorz
Assistant Librarian/Library Instruction Coordinator
Metropolitan State University
St. Paul, MN
peskorza@yahoo.com OR
peskorza@msus1.msus.edu

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 13:17:15 -0600 (MDT)
From: Carroll Davey <cdavey@info.jefferson.lib.co.us>
Subject: long call #s

Hi All,

Just a quick survey...how far does you library carry out the call # beyond
the decimal point? If there is a specified limit: is it a random number
set by the cataloging dept. OR is it determined by the OPAC system
because it can only display a certain amount of numbers?

Please respond directly to me at cdavey@jefferson.lib.co.us

Thank you,
- -Carroll

*The views expressed are my own and do not represent any library I have
worked for, am working for, will work for or even thought of working for.

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:56:43 -0700
From: michael crosby <mdcrosby@earthlink.net>
Subject: indexing system

A teacher from a local elementary school has asked me for
recommedations of a computerized system that creates labels, index
cards, and catalogs books for their small school library. I have seen
several listed in the Demco catalog and I was wondering if anyone on the
list has any experience with one.

Michael Crosby
Children's Librarian
La Canada Flintridge Public Library
mdcrosby@earthlink.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 14:56:21 -0400
From: "Amy Boardley" <amyb@afb.net>
Subject: Creative Access Guide for Programs for Persons with Visual Impairments

I have found this to be helpful, and thought I would share the information-

"Reaching Out: A Creative Access Guide for Designing Exhibits and Cultural
Programs for Persons Who Are Blind or Visually Impaired" by Mary Ann
Siller, National Program Associate, Education, American Foundation for the
Blind Southwest; and Elga Joffee, Director, Information Center, American
Foundation for the Blind, New York.

Created specifically for libraries, museums, historical societies, outdoor
cultural facilities and everyone whose mission involves providing
information to the community, "Reaching Out" video and guide offers
practical design and program solutions for making information in cultural
programs and facilities accessible to children and adults who are blind or
visually impaired.

This comprehensive two-part video illustrates the principles of making
information accessible to everyone, including people with visual
impairments. Part 1 offers examples of programs and information that are
accessible and shows the interaction between visually impaired visitors and
their environments in museums, libraries and other cultural facilities. It
goes on to illustrate how technology--both low and high tech--can be used
to provide information access and enhance an organization's ability to
reach all members of the community. Part 2 of the video describes how
organizations can prepare and train their staff and volunteers to provide
accessible environments and programs.

"Reaching Out" also includes an easy-to-follow print guide that complements
the video and offers specific information about facility design, signage,
lighting, multimedia displays, computer information access, personnel
training and working with members of the community.

For more information about "Reaching Out" please contact AFB Press at
1-800-232-3044 or <afborder@abdintl.com>.

Thanks-
Amy J. Boardley
Manager, Library Information Resources
Information Center
American Foundation for the Blind

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:44:53 -0500
From: DLHIETT <dlh@greennet.net>
Subject: RE: Halloween craft and story ideas

Hi Carrie
A halloween craft that I always use (patrons ask for it over and over) =
is a witch. I have the children paint a wooden spoon green, attach =
spanish moss on the hollow of the spoon for hair. Make dress out of =
black twist paper, cape out of orange twist paper, and tie orange or =
black ribbon in bow around neck. Add eyes and mouth with paint or =
markers and a green clay nose. I make the witch's hats out of felt, but =
these need to be cut and sewn up in advance. They are really cute and =
the parents love them too! There are lots of books to go along with the =
witch craft.
Good Luck
Deb

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:51:48 -0500
From: Peggy Northcraft <mdu002@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: Re: access policy for minors

Rosalie,

At the Hannibal (MO) Public Library, videos must be checked out on an adult
card - this has to do with financial responsibility mostly, I think. we
have Internet computers, two in the children's Room. All patrons who wish
to use them must sign an Internet agreement. In the case of children
between the ages of 10 and 18, the parent and child must both sign. Under
the age of ten we don't allow them to use the computers at this time. The
two Internet-connected computers in the Chilren's Room are filtered.

Peggy
Hannibal MO
Margaret "Peggy" Northcraft
Children's Librarian
Hannibal Public Library
Hannibal MO
mdu002@mail.connect.more.net

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:52:05 -0400
From: "Andrea H. Mandel" <mandel@voicenet.com>
Subject: CD ROM's requests

We have been quite successful with the collection we have maintained for
the past year in our library. We do not charge a fee for circulating
them although they only circulate for a one week period at a time. If
they are late, a $.35 per day fee is imposed. Many fines are collected
because of the short circulation period. Nontheless, they still
continue to be extremely popular. We are in the process of ordering
more, I know alot of our patrons, in this age group (particularly teens)
would prefer less software with an "educational slant" and more with a
game format. I am torn between giving in to the demand and keeping the
collection more educational in scope (our old dilemna). How are others
handling similar situations?

While I have all your attention on this subject does anyone know of any
good review tools for software and good places to purchase these
products (maybe at a discount? - they could get quite costly.)

Thanks for all your help!


Andrea Mandel
Marple Public Library
Sproul & Springfield Roads
Broomall, PA 19008
(610)356-1510
mandel@voicenet.com

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 08:24:47 +0000
From: "Nancy Magi" <Nmagi@acpl.lib.in.us>
Subject: Re: Globes

Mary,
Many years back we got a globe from Rand McNally in Louisville,
Kentucky. It is at least 10 feet tall, revolves, is lighted and is
quite beautiful.

Nancy Magi



Dear Pubyacers,
My director has informed me that a patron wishes to make a substantial
donation to the library for the purchase of a globe. The patron is
interested in a floor standing globe and willing to contribute a
significant amount of money. Anyone have any suggestions/sources. Please
respond directly. TIA!
Mary Schmidt
West Babylon Public Library
West Babylon, New York



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There are only two lasting bequests we can hope to give our
children. One of these is roots, the other wings.--Hodding Carter
*********************************************
Branch Youth Services Coordinator
Allen County Public Library
900 Webster St.
Fort Wayne, IN 46801-2270
nmagi@acpl.lib.in.us
*********************************************

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 10:28:33 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mary Johnson (amk)" <mjohnson@wlsmail.wls.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: call for help

Wendy, in my (still fairly brief) experience as a YA librarian, I've
found kids this age still want to *do* things. My most successful
programs, in order of success, have been a mystery in the library, a
chinese cooking class, a tie-dye T-shirt workshop, and (once) a party
in the library. It does help if you involve the kids in planning - for
example, for the mystery the library, I had older kids help me write it
and play bad guys, while younger kids (10 to 12) workde in teams to solve
it. If you'd like more info on any of these programs, please feel free
to contact me directly at mjohnson@wls.lib.ny.us. Hope this helps!
Mary Johnson, YA librarian, NOrth Castle Library, Armonk, NY

On Fri, 9 Oct 1998, Wendy Pavelko wrote:

> Hello to all the PUBYACer's out there!
> I need help, I have never written before, but I am sure that the
> response will be very helpful. The board is pushing for more and more
> programs for school aged children, around 8-12/13 of age. I have been
> at the job and in the area only a little over a month, and I feel I
> don't know our patrons or the community morals and "feelings" so, does
> anyone have any sure fire hits out there? Ones that will attract and
> excite the kids, I am desperate. You can respond directly or over the
> list, Thanks very much.
> Wendy Pavelko
> Children's Services Coordinator
> Springdale Public Library
> wpavelko@spl.lib.ar.us
>
>

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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 09:42:32 -0500
From: Peggy Northcraft <mdu002@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: Re: call for help

Wendy,

the most popular programs we have and those that I doubt would cause any
controversy are done by the local Corps of engineers about snakes, frogs,
toads, etc. The kids love them . I used them during summer Reading Club
and am having them back again on Halloween. That way we can ahave a
Halloween program without offending anyone.

Check with a local college or university for a Speakers Bureau. check with
the Chamber of Commerce about a local asset directory or list.

Peggy



At 05:40 PM 10/9/98 -0500, you wrote:
>Hello to all the PUBYACer's out there!
>I need help, I have never written before, but I am sure that the
>response will be very helpful. The board is pushing for more and more
>programs for school aged children, around 8-12/13 of age. I have been
>at the job and in the area only a little over a month, and I feel I
>don't know our patrons or the community morals and "feelings" so, does
>anyone have any sure fire hits out there? Ones that will attract and
>excite the kids, I am desperate. You can respond directly or over the
>list, Thanks very much.
>Wendy Pavelko
>Children's Services Coordinator
>Springdale Public Library
>wpavelko@spl.lib.ar.us
>
>
>
Margaret "Peggy" Northcraft
Children's Librarian
Hannibal Public Library
Hannibal MO
mdu002@mail.connect.more.net

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Date: Mon, 12 Oct 1998 22:30:37 EDT
From: BSH5587@aol.com
Subject: chat rooms

As requested by some of you, I am posting the results of my chatroom query. I
have not visited all of the chatrooms yet so this does not come with any
recommendation from me.


Chatrooms:

>From Steve:
Chatbox freezone.com/chat

TeenHub Chat www.teenhub.com/chat.htm

>From Bridgett Johnson:

Yahoochat www.yahoochat.com

>From Mary Sue Burnett:

Teen-Talk Matchmaker www.teen.email.net

Jan Chapman writes: Yahooligans, the young adult and children's version of
Yahoo, has a list of monitored chat rooms. You can also access chat rooms
through Yahooligans, which is a very safe and responsible site. The web
address for the above mentioned chat room list is
http://www.yahooligans.com/Entertainment/chat/.

Vicky Smith writes: I do not know of any especially good chat rooms per se,
but one feature that a lot of our kids are using (when they're not in
chathouse, which is truly repellent) is the Yahoo Games site. Kids (and
grown-ups too, of course) can choose one of any number of games such as
backgammon, cribbage, chess, bridge.... and play online with people from
around the world. As they play, they can chat. One boy gets a real kick out
of playing with people from places he's never even heard of, more of a kick
than playing the game itself. It's pretty neat. Since the focus is on
playing the games, it's quite innocuous.

Jean Baer writes: .... If you would like to help your YA customers do
something fun that is communicating with others about topics, such as sports,
you could help them to sign up for a free e-mail service and sign onto a
sports list serv.

Mary Ann Nelson writes: (also suggested by Mary Arnold) At ALA in Washington
this year, this fellow talked about chat rooms and had a lot of really
informative, good information about chat rooms and the different ways they
work. I bet if you emailed him, he could help you out. He gave everyone in
attendance his address. So, I'm sure he wouldn't mind hearing from you.
rtruxall@tln.lib.mi.us.

Thanks to all who forwarded information to me.

Brenda Hauck
Young Adult Specialist
Swanton Public Library
305 Chestnut St.
Swanton, OH 43558
bsh5587@aol.com

419-826-2760 (v)
419-826-1020 (f)


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Date: Tue, 13 Oct 1998 06:44:50 PDT
From: "pam standhart" <pumbaacat@hotmail.com>
Subject: goodbye activities---LONG

Here are the responses to my query for goodbye activities for my Book
Beat series. Thanks for all of the input.


Pam Standhart
Children's Information Specialist
Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County


2 little hands go clap, clap, clap
2 little hands lie in my lap
2 little feet go thump, thump, thump
2 little legs give a great big jump (jump up)
1 little voice gives a great big sign...Awwww (pouty face)
Because it's time to say good-bye! (wave)

Our hands say thank you with a clap, clap, clap
Our feet say thank you with a tap, tap, tap
Clap, clap clap,
Tap, tap, tap,
roll your hands around and wave good-bye.


(use own hand motions)
make a ball, small, soft and round
make a hammer to pound, pound, pound
10 fingers in a row
Let's make music clapping so
Make an umbrella to keep you dry
and hold up your hand to wave bye bye


we are popcorn (squat close to floor with arms wrapped tightly around
self)

sitting in a pan
don't forget the top (put one hand , palm down over your head)
first we start to sizzle (shake and shimmy)
and then we're gonna POP!! (jump up arms extended cheerleader style)


Open, close them
Open, close them
Watch the _____fly (pantomime the thing we choose--something that flies)

open, close them
Open, close them
Time to say goodbye (wave)


If you're leaving and you know it wave goodbye (wave) ---twice--
If you're leaving and you know it
then you really ought to show it
If you're leaving and you know it, wave goodbye (wave and say "goodbye")


Sing:

Shake hands with friends, it's time to go (3 times)
I hope to see you another day.

Also try "blow kisses".. for toddlers



Use "toodala" in American Folk Songs for Children by Ruth Crawford
Seeger. Use clap your hands, toodala, toodala, toodala, and end with
"Goodbye storytime, toodala"


For many years I've used a version of "The More We Get
Together":
The more we get together, together, together [hold hands,
rock
side to
side]
The more we get together the happier we'll be [continue
rocking]
'Cause _your_ friends [reach arms to front]
are _my_ friends [point hands to self]
and _my_ friends [keep pointing inward]
are _your_ friends [reach outward again]
The more we get together the happier we'll be [hold
hands, rock
side to
side].



Rob Reid's "Wave Goodbye" song at the end of each of
our
toddlertimes and storytimes for preschoolers.

"Wave Goodbye"

Wave high (Wave hand overhead)
Wave Low (Wave hand close to the ground)
I think it's time (point to wrist)
We've gotta go. (Point to door)

Wave your elbows (Flap elbows)
Wave your toes (Wiggle toes)
Wave your tongue (Say this while saving tongue)
And wave your nose. (Wiggle nose)

Wave your knees (Flap knees)
Wave your lips (Wiggle lips)
Blow a kiss (Make a kiss noise)
With fingertips. (Go "mwah" with fingers on lips)

Wave your ears (Wave head side to side)
Wave your hair (Shake hair)
Wave your belly (Shake tummy)
And derriere. (Shake hips)

Wave your chin (Move chin)
Wave your eye (blink)
Wave your hand (Raise hand)
And say "Goodbye."

Rob Reid's book "Wave Goodbye" is published by Lee & Low
Books,
Inc.,
New York, c. 1996. ISBN #1-880000-30-X; $14.95

or contact Rob Reid (he is a youth librarian in Eau
Claire, WI)
at
The Kid-Tested Company
P. O. Box 1383
Eau Claire, WI 54702

He also has a audio tape with a fun selection called "The
Rappin' Rob
Library Rap" on a cassette entitled The Kid Tested
Tape.


y standard goodbye song is sung as I walk around giving
out the song
sheet of the songs sung that day (so parents will know
the words
and can
sing them again). It's just a simple:
"Goodbye Kendra, goodbye Alex,
Goodbye Alisha, thanks for coming today."
They like getting a song sheet, they like hearing their
name,
and it makes
it easier for me to learn their names.

Hope it helps. I do ask kids to stay sitting down as I
pass the
song sheets
around.

Another one I've used when I don't have song sheets is
"Put your
finger in
the air, in the air, etc." as I put a tiny star on the
end of
their finger.
Then we all sing "Twinkle, twinkle little star" together.
Very
nice for an
evening program!

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