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Date: Thu, 5 Nov 1998 20:03:08 -0500 (EST)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #488
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:57:20 -0500
From: aparadise@juno.com (Andrew Paradise)
Subject: Re: historical fiction
I had a resource at New Haven Free Public Library prior to 1987- we
marked our holdings in it. Can't remember title, and not up to date, but
it may have been revised.
Anne
"Librarian (like Stewardess, Certified Public Accountant, Used Car
Salesman) is
one of those occupations that people assume attract a certain deformed
personality."
Elizabeth McCracken *The
Giant's House*
Anne and Andy Paradise, Librarians-- andrew or anne@gary.lib.in.us
aparadise@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:57:20 -0500
From: aparadise@juno.com (Andrew Paradise)
Subject: Re: historical fiction
I had a resource at New Haven Free Public Library prior to 1987- we
marked our holdings in it. Can't remember title, and not up to date, but
it may have been revised.
Anne
"Librarian (like Stewardess, Certified Public Accountant, Used Car
Salesman) is
one of those occupations that people assume attract a certain deformed
personality."
Elizabeth McCracken *The
Giant's House*
Anne and Andy Paradise, Librarians-- andrew or anne@gary.lib.in.us
aparadise@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 21:08:55 -0500
From: aparadise@juno.com (Andrew Paradise)
Subject: Re: Internet Child Abuse
We have a very specific unattended children policy- preschool children
are not to be unattended at all- even at programs. Younger school age
are ok at programs but parent is supposed to be in the library. Of
course, particularly at the branches, there are kids doing HW, etc. The
Children's Council got together to draft a proposed clarification to
cover the "gray" areas- something along the lines of "extended
periods"
even for older children. But I had a 5 year old who was dropped for our
Saturday pm movie (really for older childreb)- both parents at the
computer- she wouldn't settle down- asked questions, switched activities
etc- then the father came in briefly and asked cheerfully,"Is she driving
you crazy?" and left again! So it doesn't always work. Lord knows
what's happening as we go up on the NET!
"Librarian (like Stewardess, Certified Public Accountant, Used Car
Salesman) is
one of those occupations that people assume attract a certain deformed
personality."
Elizabeth McCracken *The
Giant's House*
Anne and Andy Paradise, Librarians-- andrew or anne@gary.lib.in.us
aparadise@juno.com
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 09:13:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Heaney <eheaney@nwpl.new-westminster.bc.ca>
Subject: Re: Internet Child Abuse
How about 'non-Internet' abuse, or good old neglect? I realize it is a
thorny issue, but there is no way that we would encourage adults to
leave children in our care, while they are in another part of the library
(or perhaps go across the street for some groceries? pop into the
neighbourhood pub in the next block for a quick beer?).
There has been a lot of discussion on this listserv about unattended
children. Just because a parent is using library resources doesn't make
that child any less unattended.
(And I'm sure we have lots to do without looking after children who
don't even want to be in the Children's Room.)
Ellen Heaney
Head, Children's Services
New Westminster Public Library
New Westminster, B.C.
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Date: Wed, 4 Nov 1998 17:19:43 -0800 (PST)
From: janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us (Jan Wall)
Subject: Re: Crayon resist
Thank you to all who responded to my request for tips on crayon resist,
especially Allison, Vicki, Louanne and Melissa. I'm sorry if I forgot
anyone, but first names are all I remember since my in-box crash took
everything with it!
The crayon resist project was successful. I really like open-ended projects
where each finished product looks different and children can use their
imaginations. In case anyone is interested, here's how we did it (thanks to
tips from pubyaccers!)
1. There were 3 different areas for the project. At the first I handed out
crayons and paper, along with a cardboard pad to color the paper on. The
kids sat on the floor and colored - large, solid shapes rather than
squiggles. We used 4"X6" blank index cards, which were just the right
size
and texture. (A larger size would mean the project would take a lot longer
to complete.) When they finished coloring, they moved to the next area.
2. The second area was the painting area. I covered all the tables with
tablecloths. On each table was a box of handy (wet) wipes, a stack of paper
towels, brushes, and a small cup of water to drop used paint brushes into.
Each child received a "paint smock" - a plastic WalMart bag with the
bottom
cut out and slit up the back. (The child uses the handles as arm holes and
we taped the back shut to keep it on.) After each child put on their smock,
I squeezed a little bit of paint from a premixed bottle into a small cup,
which we threw away later. The paint barely covered the bottom of the cup,
in case of spills. (BTW, we used tempera, greatly watered down. I think it
finally came out about 6 parts water to 1 part paint, but I did it by look
and how it covered the paper.)
3. The third area was a drying area, which didn't need to be very big, since
the paper was so small.
Some important tips I will remember if I do any kind of paint project again:
*Before kids start painting, I reminded them to roll up their sleeves. (That
seems obvious to us, but they don't always think of it!)
*Handy wipes are great for wiping fingers before children get it all over
their clothes or the library - also to wipe up spills immediately.
*Cheap alternatives to paint brushes (especially for glue) are Q-tips or
make-up sponges pinned into a clothespin. Often the clothespins can be
salvaged, but the make-up sponges are cheap enough to be thrown away after a
particularly messy or large scale project.
BTW, the stories that tied into this project were about the dark and how
things change (e.g. HILDA HEN'S SCARY NIGHT), and the suggestion of weather
related stories would be good to use too.
Thanks again -
Jan Wall
Youth Services
Latah County Library
110 South Jefferson
Moscow ID 83843
208-882-3925 fax: 208-882-5098
email: janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 08:27:00 -0800
From: Maya_SPECTOR@city.palo-alto.ca.us (Maya SPECTOR)
Subject: Cookie decorating
Hi, all -
Has anyone done cookie decorating as part of a program? If you have
any advice, recommendations, recipes,etc. I'd love to hear from you,
and I'd be happy to summarize for the group.
Maya Spector
Palo Alto Children's Library
maya_spector@city.palo-alto.ca.us
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 17:29:31 -0500
From: Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org>
Subject: Re: Internet Child Abuse
We tell them politely that we cannot allow screaming or running in the
library and that it is their responsibility to control their children.
If the children cannot be controlled, they must be taken outside, which
ends the parent's turn at an internet work station since we only have
two terminals and someone else is invariably waiting.
Fortunately, we do not have this situation as often as you do.
Christine M. Hill
Willingboro Public Library
One Salem Road
Willingboro, NJ 08046
chill@willingboro.org
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 14:22:01 -0600
From: Marge Tassione <tassione@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: teens and security problems
Personally, I believe that the greatest problems in our library are
children who are here with nothing to do. In many instances we become
the babysitter. The teens that I have had contact with are usually
respectful--usually--not always. Most teens will treat you with the
same level of respect that you give them. They can spot a phony a mile
away and will respont with an attitude if you come close to treating
them in a condescending manner. Teens are one of our greatest natural
resources. They fight stereotypes every day. Give 'em a break.
These views are my own.
Tassione@sls.lib.il.us
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 10:09:21 -0800 (PST)
From: cathy ryne <cryne@sierramadre.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Library Pages
I supervise 5 library pages for the entire library and would love it if you
could answer some questions:
1. Who supervises your pages? Hiring, firing, training, etc.
2. Do you have them wear any type of uniforms. I have been having trouble
with some of my female pages that have come in wearing inappropriate clothes
and I have had to send them home to change. We give every page, upon
hiring, a dress code that they are to abide by. I am curious to know what
other libraries do.
3. Do you allow them to answer reference questions.
I appreciate your collective help.
Cathy Ryne
Sierra Madre Public Library
cryne@sierramadre.lib.ca.us
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 15:06:45 -0600
From: Barbara Stransky <stransky@sunflower.com>
Subject: Re: Teen Read Week and YA Volunteers
Congratulations on coming up with innovative ways to recognize your teen
volunteers!
One issue bothers me, however. Why the gender difference in volunteer
recognition--books for women, and pizza for men? Does this send some
sort of message to the teens? Was there a particular reason for
dividing the prizes according to gender?
I do think sometimes we tend to provide library service, reader's
advisory, etc. according to preconceived notions of gender preferences
that may be limiting....
Barbara Stransky, Library Services Coordinator
Northeast Kansas Library System
3205 Clinton Parkway Court, Suite 200
Lawrence, KS 66047-2627
stransky@sunflower.com
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:16:32 PST
From: "Heidi Estrin" <estrinh@hotmail.com>
Subject: Jewish Libraries
Hi, I'm back on Pubyac! I was gone while I transitioned from being a
public librarian in Pittsburgh PA to working at a synagogue school
library in Boca Raton FL! Hope I didn't miss too much (although I'm
sure I did!).
In my new job I have become affiliated with the Association of Jewish
Libraries, and -- beginner's luck! -- they are holding their national
conference in Boca next June so I get to be on the conference committee.
So I thought I'd throw out a general inquiry to Pubyac: does anyone
know of people who might be good speakers on topics that combine Judaica
and librarianship?
Thanks, everyone!
Heidi Estrin
Feldman Children's Library
Congregation B'nai Israel
2200 Yamato Rd.
Boca Raton, FL 33431
(561) 241-1484 x206
e-mail: estrinh@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:32:01 -0500
From: "Lynda M. Gamble" <lyndage@lori.state.ri.us>
Subject: gif collections
Many thanks to all those who sent me information on free gifs for web
pages. I haven't had time to check all these sites yet though. Here are the
results:
http://www.talstar.com/cat/graphics/index.htm
http://www.nzwwa.com/mirror/clipart
http://www.desktopPublishing.com/webgraphics.html
http://www.lookup.com/image/SMARTlib/
http://www.usask.ca/images
http://www.geocities.com/Athens/Acropolis/2161/#Books
http://www.multnomah.lib.or.us/cisp/graphics.html
also look at the Related Links on this page for Clip Art Server links
http://www.animfactory.com/index.html
http://www.ssdesign.com/librarypr/
http://www.netins.net/showcase/meyers/library_clipart/clipart.html
http://www.chrisolson.com/ALAsymbols.html
Several people suggested using any search engine and requesting free gifs
or free clipart.
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:51:42 -0600 (CST)
From: Kim Kietzman <kkietzma@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Parents Choice Foundation
Sorry, but I don't have the message from whomever was asking about Parents
Choice. By pure luck I found the information below on the
www.sesamestreet.com web site today.
Parents' Choice Foundation
Box 185
Newton, MA 02168
(617)965-5913
(617)965-4516 fax
Parchoice@erols.com
pchoice@aol.com
Maybe you can get information regarding their publication situation
directly!
Kim Kietzman LISTEN TO THE MUSTN'TS
Assistant Children's Librarian Listen to the MUSTN'TS, child,
Rock Island Public Library Listen to the DONT'S
401 19th Street Listen to the SHOULDN'TS
Rock Island, IL 61201 The IMPOSSIBLES, the WONT's
(309)732-7364 Listen to the NEVER HAVES
Then listen close to me --
Anything can happen, child,
ANYTHING can be.
by Shel Silverstein
"Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of the
Rock Island Public Library."
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 12:41:07 -0500
From: marshalj@mpl.on.ca (Janis Marshall)
Subject: Adult use of children's Internet stations
Hello all,
Thank-you for all the responses to the question of whether to restrict use
of children's Internet station to children. We have not yet made our
decision but I must say that the majority of responses favoured limiting
the use to children only even if it meant that adults were left waiting to
use the adult stations while the children's workstation was empty. The
decision was based on the premise that many children would be intimidated
by adults sitting at their workstation that this would prevent them from
asking to use it even if there was a Kids First policy. The responses were
interesting and varied and I thank you all for taking the time to
"write".
I'll let you know what we decide to do.
Janis Marshall
Milton Public Library
Milton, Ontario, Canada
marshalj@mpl.on.ca
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 14:46:35 -0500
From: Diane Mayr <bratcat@mediaone.net>
Subject: Re: Looking for new craft ideas for YA's
Pony bead project instructions are available at <www.joann.com>. Click on
"project center" and then "just for kids projects". I did
ladybugs as a drop-in
craft activity this past summer. I gave the kids a baggie with the correct
amount of beads for the project, gimp, and a instruction sheet. The kids loved
it.
Diane Mayr
Nesmith Library
Windham, NH 03087 pop. 11,000
dmayr@library.windham.nh.us
Vicki Ankrapp wrote:
> Hi!
>
> We just started doing an afterschool craft for YA's. We had a great deal of
> success making pony bead gecko's. The kid's loved it..they all wanted to
> stay late and have another pony bead session. Pony beads are those large
> plastic beads that are sold at craft stores, and you can make all kinds of
> interesting animals out of them. Instructions are usually given away or
> sold at the craft stores as well.
>
>
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Date: Tue, 3 Nov 1998 15:44:01 -0600
From: anthill@megspo.megsinet.net (Tanya M. DiMaggio)
Subject: Jan Brett and Re: Program on Clothes and dressing warm
Erica (and others),
Erica, I can't wait to try your idea when I read The Hat next! You might
also like to know that Jan Brett has a web page where you can print out
masks of the characters in The Hat and others (Town Mouse and Country Mouse
for sure). I pasted the color printouts onto posterboard, trimmed them, and
taped them to popsicle sticks to use as puppets. I had the children hold
the puppets as I read the story, and make the animal sounds. (This was not
an original idea). The web site is www.janbrett.com. There are also lots of
other activities to go with her books.
>Then we read The Hat by Jan Brett. A few children are selcted
>to act out the various animals and they choose what item of clothes they
>want to wear as hats. It is very hilarious, parents love it-- have a
>camera handy!
>Erica Sternin
>
Tanya DiMaggio
Blackstone Branch
The Chicago Public Library
dimaggio@chipublib.org or
anthill@megspo.megsinet.net
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Date: Tue, 03 Nov 1998 19:56:50 +0000
From: rdhall@mail.cinetwork.com
Subject: Kidstuff Magazine
I have had the same response as Sue. He (Harold, I think his name was...)
promised that he would send all back issues and set us back up on their
computer as a subscriber. I really think we must all give up on them and
construct our own ideas book. I copy all great ideas and fingerplays that
I gain from pubyac and paste them onto a Microsoft Word file that I name.
I browse through and print it out when I've decided to do a program on that
theme. But I admit that I'd love to have the back issues we've missed from
Kidstuff.
Anne Hall
Clark County Public Library
Winchester, KY
>Our last issue of Kidstuff is from 1996 as well, so I tried to contact the
publisher with the 800 number. Each time I would call, I would reach a
receptionist who would "take a message" but never call back. After
several
attempts, I spoke with someone in Customer Service who was very vague about
when the last issue acutally came out. His response
was "we publish quarterly" and "a new issue will be coming out
shortly." I
explained to him that we have been paying for this each year since 1996. He
said he would "check into it." I haven't heard from him again. Please
let
me know if anyone has better luck than I did. I would like to know exactly
when the last issue was published and are they
really still in business? Thanks !
Sue Becker
Middlefield Library
Anne & Roger Hall
Berea, Kentucky
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