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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:40:40 -0500 (EST)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #499
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Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 23:01:37 -0600
From: "justin cooley" <jkcooley@ll.net>
Subject: baby program reply
Currently I do an alternating Friday half hour block of time called =3D
"Books and Babies" for infants birth to 12 months and their parents. I
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=3D
hopefully soon will begin weekly or bi weekly Mother Goose Time for =3D
12-24 months (we currently have weekly toddler time for 2-3 year olds =
=3D
and 2 weekly preschool storytimes for 3-5 year olds). The best source =
I've =3D
found is the book called "Mother Goose Time" - right now the author's
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name =3D
escapes me. If you can't find it -e-mail me and I'll look it up when =
I'm =3D
at work! Good luck - I LOVE my Books and Babies time and really feel =
=3D
connected to the parents (and babies!) and know they are my "future "
=
toddler and preschool and afterschool, etc., etc attendees! :-) =
Kathleen
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 07:52:01 +0000
From: kskellen@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us (Kendra Skellen)
Subject: No meeting rooms for programs
Up until now, we have had meeting rooms at all our branches to do
programs in for both the preschool programs and the summer reading
club programs for the older children. Our systems is now considering
getting rid of the meeting rooms and just having a small space in the
childrens area for programs.
Doing the preschool programs in the childrens area does not cause too
much of a problem along as enough space is given to handle up to 50
people. The problem we see arising is during the summer when we do
summer reading club programs for the older children where we have a
craft involved with the program, puppet shows and speciality programs
that make lots of noise in the library. Our buildings are one great
big room, the childrens area does not have any walls to seperate from
the main part of the library.
I am looking to find out if any other library has a similar situation
and how to you handle it? During Summer Reading Club we have to
limit how many come into the room and often repeat the programs when
needed. How do we keep them from joining an already full program
when we have no walls or doors? The same situation with the puppet
shows. We usually do two programs per branch for we get over 100
people per show.
Help!
Kendra Skellen, Librarian II - Programming and Outreach
Gwinnett County Public Library
1001 Lawrenceville Highway
Lawrenceville, Ga. 30045-4707
kskellen@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us
770-277-6011
770-822-5379 (fax)
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:46:40 -0500
From: "LEIGH WILEY" <wileys@mail.randolph.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: Breakfast With Santa
I am interested in having a "Breakfast With Santa"at the Library. Has
anybody ever done this? What exactly am I getting into?
Leigh Wiley
Randolph County Library
200 East Pearl Street
Cuthbert, GA 31740
(912) 732-2566
FAX (912) 732-6824
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:18:52 -0600
From: Terri Norstrom <tnorstrom@fpld.alibrary.com>
Subject: Book-Craft Activities
Does anyone have craft or game ideas to accompany either of these books:
The Boggart
Cricket in Time Square
The audience is third grade and up.
Thank you,
Terri Norstrom
tnorstrom@fpld.alibrary.com
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 08:15:25 -0800
From: drabkin <arcanis@sirius.com>
Subject: Re: How would you respond to this patron?
IMHO there's only one response to this patron: Fix the blinkin' elevator
IMMEDIATELY, and bring this library into ADA compliance! And -- apologize
to a patron who has been marginalized in a library paid for by his/her own
tax money!
I don't know how others may feel about it, but it is not satisfactory for a
patron to have to ask a librarian to page down inaccessible materials.
Don't you think the patron just may not wish to have his/her choices in
reading subject to examination by another person regardless of how
professional that other person might be?
Marian Drabkin
Richmond Public Library
Richmond, CA
>PUBYACKERS: I received this communication from a user of a library and
>was curious to how other librarians might respond to the following
>situation: (I've submitted this previously to PUBYAC but it was never
>posted??)
>
>[because, as I found out upon submitting it for the second time to the
>wrong address,...!! So here it is finally.]
>
>"It is rather infuriating to feel marginalized even when, as a
>disabled writer with no job, I am already scrabbling on the margins
>by my fingernails, re: The central branch free library of ___ is
>only partially wheelchair accessible. I can zoom around the first
>floor all I wish, but most of the titles I wish to read, (Morrison,
>Vassar Miller, etc.) are up in the second and third floors, which I
>cannot get to, since the elevators have been down for centuries or
>something. I am not quite clear what the problem is, but feel
"bad"
>sending a limited librarian staff on a wild goose chase for me.
>
<snip>
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 11:39:51 -0500
From: Carol Hoke <hoke@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us>
Subject: Re: How would you respond to this patron?
>
>"It is rather infuriating to feel marginalized even when, as a
>disabled writer with no job, I am already scrabbling on the margins
>by my fingernails, re: The central branch free library of ___ is
>only partially wheelchair accessible. I can zoom around the first
>floor all I wish, but most of the titles I wish to read, (Morrison,
>Vassar Miller, etc.) are up in the second and third floors, which I
>cannot get to, since the elevators have been down for centuries or
>something. I am not quite clear what the problem is, but feel
"bad"
>sending a limited librarian staff on a wild goose chase for me.
<snip>
Are you the director of the library and therefore responsible to answer
public correspondence? If not, why do you have to answer this letter
(e-mail, voice mail?) It appears to involve problems with the building
which usually are the responsibility of the director/assistant director
since they involve budgeting money for repairs.
The patron should be assured that the library staff is there to help
him/her. If he/she needs assistance in finding materials the staff will be
happy to assist.
Are the elevators down all the time? If so, get them fixed. Otherwise you
are looking at some kind of lawsuit waiting to happen. Make sure
wheelchairs can get to the shelves also.
If this patron is filled with resentments because he/she "is a disabled
writer with no job" there is not much you can do about that. Just give
him/her the best service possible just like you would any patron who comes
in to your library.
Carol Hoke
Children's Services Manager
Cedar Rapids Public Library
500 1st St. SE
Cedar Rapids, IA 52401
Hoke@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us
319-398-5123
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 15:43:02 EST
From: Famous99@aol.com
Subject: poetry ideas?
Hi... I'm running a creative writing workshop for young teens in my library.
I was hoping to do something with poetry in the next session and since poetry
is not exactly my forte I can't come up with any fun activities for them.
It's a great, enthusiastic group. They've written poetry in some of the other
sessions, which were either or type of activities. If anyone has any ideas I
would really really appreciate the input. Please respond to me at
famous99@aol.com
Thanks.
Esther L.
Brooklyn Public Library.
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 10:14:38 -0800
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@zelda.walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
Subject: Re: How would you respond to this patron?
Commiserate with him that the system is clearly NOT working, apologize, and
figure out how to meet his needs. Like, publish his letter in the paper to
get public works off their duffs to fix the GD elevators.
Mary Ann Gilpatrick
Young Peoples' Librarian
Walla Walla Public Library
238 E. Alder
Walla Walla, WA 99362
509-527-4550
fax: 509-527-3748
magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us
opinions my own, not WWPL, etc etc
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 14:57:30 -0600
From: "Mary J. Soucie" <mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: Getting teachers involved
Katja and Pubyackers,
Hi! When I was at my public library, I hosted the first "annual"
Teacher
Appreciation Dinner. The first dinner included administrators, early
childhood, kindergarten and first grade teachers. It was catered (for a very
great rate) by a local caterer. I sent out personalized invites and did
follow-up calls. We had a turnout of 18 out of 20 invited! Along with my
"spiel", I gave the attendees time to network with colleagues from
other
buildings/districts. I'm a strong believer in "If you feed them, they will
come"! It was really a succesful program. We intended to do 4 a year until
we had included teachers grades pre-k through eighth. Public and parochial
schools were included. I did not have a lot of money in my programming
budget, but felt this was worthwhile. I was unable to continue the program in
the Fall of the next year because I accepted a school position. I'm not sure
if my predecessor continued the program or not. I enjoyed it wholeheartedly
and it had a positive impact on my relations with the teachers. Hope this
helps.
mjs
Katja Ermann wrote:
> My department has decided to have a "teacher's tea" in January,
as part of
> our continuing efforts to get the school librarians, teachers, and
> principals to help us help them. We are trying to encourage communication
> with the schools (especially in the area of warning us about
> assignments!). Has anyone done anything like this, and how did it go? Any
> warnings or suggestions?
>
> TIA.
> Kat
>
> *******************************************
> Katja Ermann, Children's Librarian
> Somerset County Library, Hillsborough Branch (NJ)
> kermann@rvcc.raritanval.edu
- --
Mary J. Soucie
Youth Services Consultant
Heritage Trail Library System
815-729-3345 x110
mailto:mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:03:41 -0800
From: Thom Ball <ballt@pls.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Thanks for the responses on homeschooling
Dear Pubyacers,
Thanks for all your timely responses on the homeschooling questions that
I and several other culminators in our final phase of library school at
San Jose State put out on this listserv. Your thoughtful answers and the
minor dust-up it created were really interesting to obtain and observe.
In general, it seems that most of you are attempting to do outreach and
to meet the needs of this constituency which continues to grow. Since
most public libraries have as part of their missions to serve the
educational needs of their communities, then it follows logically that
this segment of the population needs and deserves attention.
Fortunately, what most of them need and want is not so esoteric that it
cannot fit into other patrons' needs as well, particularly library
tours, bibliographic instruction, reference workshops, classic
literature, storytimes at different hours, even year-round reading
programs which one library I read about found was easier to do than a
once-a-year push in the summer.
The literature is full of successful examples of service to
homeschoolers that do not require re-inventing library service and can
improve and enhance service to what can be most ardent supporters and
vocal proponents, especially when some legislative initiative or library
issue is on the ballot. The other critical element that has emerged from
this study is that homeschoolers are not a monolithic block of
disenfranchised religious fanatics - it now cuts across economic,
ethnic, cultural, and educational lines. Granted, they can also be
demanding, challenging, and virtually insatiable when it comes to new,
better, more-like-this ...
... but they are largely grateful and cooperative when we make the
slightest effort to provide what they need. They've made a tough choice
based on what they think is best for their children. If you sense some
defensiveness on their part, there's probably a reason - stepping out of
the mainstream is a risky business.
At any rate, that is some of what we found and thanks again for taking
the time out of your busy work lives to respond. It was invaluable.
Thom Ball
Peninsula Library System/SLIS Culminating Student
San Mateo, CA
ball@pls.lib.ca.us
650-377-4742
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:42:11 EST
From: Susan259@aol.com
Subject: shelving books
I want to make up some signs asking patrons to please not reshelve books--I
have seen some in other libraries but can't remember how they were worded.
Also, I was wondering if anyone had an idea about how to communicate this idea
to children who aren't reading yet?
Thanks,
Susan Byerly
Children's Librarian
Woodland West Branch Library
Arlington, Texas
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Date: Fri, 13 Nov 1998 17:55:09 PST
From: "Erica Sternin" <erica_sternin@hotmail.com>
Subject: Gift Making Story Needed
I am planning a program for children ages 5-12 called "Make it
Yourself"
We are going to learn how to make a bunch of different projects to give
as gifts, either at the holidays, or other times of the year.
I would like to start our program with a picture book or an oral tale
about the value of something that is hand-made. Any suggestions?
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 9:36:59 -0500
From: YA assistant <JDICKEY@ESCHER.dnet.cuyahoga.lib.oh.us>
Subject: RE: How would you respond to this patron?
In response to the disabled patron:
Apologize.
Identify with his anger. How dare this library not fix the
elevator!
Assure him, that, in light of the humiliating circumstance the
library has put him in, you and other staff are more than ready to
seek out any materials and even undertake wild goose chases for
him and others placed in this condition by the library's faliure to
meet ADA standards.
Offer him other avenues for his activism: the library board, state
and federal ADA agencies, etc.
Apologize again.
Janet
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