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Date: Tue, 17 Nov 1998 12:37:11 -0500 (EST)
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:46:14 -0800 (PST)
From: Cynthia Bishop <cybishop44@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: toddler storytimes
Hi,
I've been doing story times for 18 years now and my experience has
been that having adults with 2 year olds seems important and
appropriate for the age, but that 3 to 5 year olds seem to do better
without accompanying adults.
My observation has been that 3 to 5 year olds can focus on being
with a peer group better when their parents are not present. I notice
that when a child's parent is in the room the child seems to have to
divide his or her attention between the peer group and the parent.
Often I find the children better behaved and more attentive when the
parent is not present.
There is no policy about this in our county system of 30 libraries.
We each do what we think works best.
There are always exceptions, of course. Some 2 year olds are more
mature than some 5 year olds. And then there are the differences
between parents and their relationships with their children. Some
parents need to be with their children and some children need the
reassurance of their parent's presence. That being the case, I tell
parents they are welcome to be present at first, as they both adjust
to what may be a new situation, and I also encourage them to let the
child come on her or his own as soon as they're both ready. I ask
parents to sit behind the children, out of sight, if possible.
Sometimes parents and children sit together for a session, then
separate for a couple of sessions with the child among peers and
parent behind.
I'm talking here about parents who value books and bring children
to story time as a matter of course. If you're dealing with young
parents or those who aren't comfortable with books, then it makes
sense to have the parents present. In this case, you're essentially
teaching the parents as well as the children. In a situation like
this I find it works better to have the parents sitting with their own
children rather than out of sight behind them.
Being flexible about the rules, and giving children and parents
some choice in the process seem to be key factors.
I hope your project goes well. Your conclusions would interest me.
Cynthia Bishop
Soule Branch Library
101 Springfield Rd
Syracuse, NY 13214
- ---"clifton.d.healy" <clifton.d.healy@MCI2000.com> wrote:
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> Hey all:
> I am a student at Louisianna State University. I am doing a research
> project on storytime for 3-5 year olds. The main issues I am
interested are
> the pros and cons of allowing parents into the room or not allowing
them in.
> There are some good arguments for both in regard to child
developement.
> But, I need to know what public libraries are doing and why. I am
very
> interested in whether or not you have a policy and how you derived it.
>
> anna
> clifton.d.healy@cwix.com
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:35:36 -0800
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@zelda.walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
Subject: Re: Parents at Toddler Times
We require parents or caregivers to stay; mostly because toddlers are too
young to beleft; also because the activities simply require an adult,
without any condescendingness implied.
Mary Ann Gilpatrick
Young Peoples' Librarian
Walla Walla Public Library
238 E. Alder
Walla Walla, WA 99362
509-527-4550
fax: 509-527-3748
magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us
opinions my own, not WWPL, etc etc
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 14:54:39 -0800 (PST)
From: Walter Minkel <walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us>
Subject: Re: Parents at Toddler Times
Ha ha. I'm kind of amused by this discussion about whether parents should
be allowed in storytimes. I'm not doing storytimes now, but when I did, I
_always_ invited the parents to join us and participate as well. When one
is a male who works with young children, one does not want to come under
the slightest suspicion of _anything_ by being in a room alone with young
kids.
Plus I felt I was modeling storyreading and teaching the parents songs to
sing with their kids, too. --W
Walter Minkel, School Corps Technology Trainer
Multnomah County Library, 205 NE Russell St., Portland, OR 97212
Voice (503)736-6002; fax (503)248-5441; walterm@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 15:00:50 -0500 (EST)
From: Gretchen A Krieger <gkrieger@acsu.buffalo.edu>
Subject: TOYS
I am a student working a paper (actually it is a page that will be
included on our professor's website) for a class I am taking -Selection
and Aquistion of Non-Book Material. My page is titled Toys. I am working
on the topic of toys as part of the collection of a library or libraries
that just deal with toys-toy lending libraries.
I was wondering if anybody on this list has had any experience with toys
as part of your collection. If so I would appreciate if you could share
your experiences with me -good,bad, advantages or diadvantages. Even if
you do not have toys as part of your collection (cataloged in the
ecollection) I would love to hear your thoughts on your topic.
Thanks!!!!!!!!!!!
Gretchen Krieger
CO-PRESIDENT OF ALA STUDENT CHAPTER
MLS GRADUATE STUDENT
SUNY at Buffalo
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* The little things are most worthwhile- *
* quiet word, a look, a smile. *
* -Margaret Lindsey *
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 10:40:39 -0800 (PST)
From: janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us (Jan Wall)
Subject: Re: Parents at storytime
I'm very encouregd to see so many libraries that welcome parents at storytime.
I love my parents/caregivers. They are such a positive part of the group
that I can't imagine what it would be like without them. (Realistically, I
can't be without them since we don't have a separate room and can't exclude
anyone. So it's a good thing that I like them being there!)
I love interacting with the adults as well as the children, and it's nice to
see them interact among themselves. After all, who brings the children?
Hopefully, there is something for the adults as well as the children, or
they might not make the effort to bring their children week after week!
I don't think I'm being cynical, but parents, garndparents, and other
caregivers have needs as well and I think we need to include them and make
them feel important in our programs.
Jan Wall
Youth Services
Latah County Library
110 South Jefferson
Moscow ID 83843
208-882-3925 fax: 208-882-5098
email: janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 17:55:13 -0600
From: "justin cooley" <jkcooley@ll.net>
Subject: poetry
Here's an idea I've done before that was really fun and enjoyed by all! =
I used Arnold Adoff's wonderful book, Love Letters and then had plenty =
of materials for participants to make their own "love letters" -the =
format of the book is so opened ended ... from tongue in cheek humor to =
ones that touch the heart - seems to open up creativity to everyone.. be =
sure and do some with them! Also, for a resource of writing poetry with =
kids of all ages - I love "Celebration of Bees" .. author's name
escapes =
me at the moment. Have fun! Kathleen
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:00:30 -0500 (EST)
From: Melissa Karnosh <emmelisa@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: Snow closures
Well, I'm working in the Fort Lauderdale, Fl., area, so we don't often
close for snow here! ;)
However, we DO close for hurricanes. Our usual procedure (much abridged)
is to go to a state of "watchful waiting" when we know one is headed
our
way. Once a Hurricane Watch is declared, we begin getting ready to close
up, but we wait for word from our administration to begin the full
shut-down process. This usually involves moving computers and other
delicate equipment to windowless "safe" rooms, covering book shelves
near
windows with plastic sheeting, taking down all decorations from the tops
of shelving and putting away (we have a large collection of stuffed
animals), and, ideally, removing all the books from the bottom shelves of
the bookcases in case of flooding. Those branches that have them put up
their storm shutters and close early on. Usually by the time we get to the
Hurricane Warning phase, we are nearly ready, and we shut down when the
word comes from Administration to do so. Signs are posted telling the
patrons that we are closed; the book drops are locked and signs put on
them telling patrons all fines will be forgiven--we don't want the
bookdrops full of books during the storm, since the wind will drive the
water right inside and ruin everything.
We do use a telephone tree for staff to keep in touch with one another;
department heads are responsible for knowing where staff are staying for
the storm, whether they plan to evacuate or stay home, etc. There are
specific radio and television stations that staff are instructed to tune
to for return-to-work information. The branch head calls the department
heads, and the department heads pass the information on to all their
staff when the return-to-work order comes out.
Usually, shutting down takes us four or five hours--and we are a big
branch. But opening up again! OY! It takes forever to put computers,
etc., back together.
Our hurricane season ends just when the blizzard seasons is beginning up
north, so we're all breathing sighs of relief while you northerners are
getting ready for the snow!
Melissa Karnosh
Broward County South Regional/BCC Library
Broward County, FL
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We have plenty of youth. What we need is a fountain of smart.
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 12:21:19 PST
From: "annie leon" <annie_leon@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: No meeting rooms for programs
You say your system is only considering it? I'd organize the Youth
Services people to bombard the powers-that-be with your big-program
summer stats as well as corresponding circ stats for those times! Tell
them to wave bye-bye to the numbers,--maybe that will wake them up
before they implement the change.
>
>Up until now, we have had meeting rooms at all our branches to do
>programs in for both the preschool programs and the summer reading
>club programs for the older children. Our systems is now considering
>getting rid of the meeting rooms and just having a small space in the
>childrens area for programs.
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 06:53:25 -0500 (EST)
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Subject: ADA
>
>Date: Thu, 12 Nov 1998 16:14:48 -0500
>From: espicer <espicer@accn.org>
>Subject: How would you respond to this patron?
>
>PUBYACKERS: I received this communication from a user of a library and
>was curious to how other librarians might respond to the following
>situation: (I've submitted this previously to PUBYAC but it was never
>posted??)
>
Fix the damned elevator! If one patron feels like this, forty others do
too, and haven't said anything to the library, but have said -lots- to
their friends. Isn't it -illegal- not to provide access, these days?
The wheelchair patron has every right to be angry, I think.
One suggestion I've made, which was ignored, at my library is to buy one or
two of those electric carts such as they have at supermarkets. We have no
steps, and I believe we're wheelchair accessible. But we aren't as
accessible to the frail and weak as I wish we were. Fiction and large
print are wisely placed near the front door, but nonfiction is about a
half-mile down the library. (Okay, so I exaggerate a bit.)
Bonita
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:25:25 -0400
From: "Lorie J. O'Donnell" <odonnell@borg.com>
Subject: Re: poetry ideas?
Esther,
You could try something like the magnetic poetry kits. You could even
make your own for each teen. Just make sets of small flash cards with
one word to each card. All different kinds of words. Then have the
kids put them together to make poetry.
Anothe idea - You start a poem with a word, and have each kid add a word
to make a poem..Or have each kid add a line.
Hope this help! Could you post all of the responses, or send to me at
odonnell@borg.com? Thanks!
Lorie
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odonnell@borg.com
"All that is comes from the mind; it is based on the mind,
it is fashioned by the mind. " from The Pali Canon
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Date: Sun, 25 Oct 1998 02:04:46 +0000
From: "Diane Adams" <DIANE@monmouth.chemek.cc.or.us>
Subject: Re: poetry ideas?
Last January I had two local poets come and do a program for a child
and adult combinations. I had children between the ages of 6 and 14.
But I definitely some of the activities would work for older kids as
well. One of my favorites, each participant was given a sheet of
paper from a magazine, newspaper or ad. They were to go over the
page writing down any words that stuck out to them. Following this,
each person took the words they had written down and created a poem
using as few additional words as possible. There was some wonderful
stuff created. Another similar exercise was to go into the library
and browse, writing down words that you found and then come back and
create a poem from those. A third possibility is to to acrostics.
Take a word that has some kind of meaning to them and create a poem
using each letter of the word as the first letter of each line.
Diane
Diane Adams Youth Services Librarian
Monmouth Public Library (503) 838-1932
P.O. Box 10 fax: (503) 838-3899
168 Ecols St. S. diane@monmouth.chemek.cc.or.us
Monmouth, OR 97361
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Date: Sun, 15 Nov 1998 14:02:56 -0500
From: Pfeiffer <JPFEIFFER@mail.mpl.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Augustus Stumper - Thank You
Thanks to all who responded to my query about a character named Augustus who
went on a series of adventures.
It appears what we were looking for is a series written in the 1940's by LeGrand
Henderson, published by Bobbs-Merrill and Grosset and Dunlap. There are at least
12 titles.
The answer was found in sources called Children's Fiction Series: A
Bibliography, 1850-1950 by Philip H. Young, published by McFarland & Co.,
1997, as well as, Fiction, Folklore, Fantasy & Poetry for Children,
1876-1985. I don't have these books, but se
ems they sure would have been helpful to me in this case.
Thanks again,
Julie Pfeiffer
Youth Servies Librarian
Middletown Public Library
Middletown, Ohio
jpfeiffer@mail.mpl.lib.oh.us
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Date: Sat, 14 Nov 1998 19:19:00 EST
From: Cbtd@aol.com
Subject: Re: good places to get an MLS
Hello Kelley,
The only school I can think of is Simmons College, and it has a small offering
of classes for librarians hoping to serve children. It is very close to
Emerson and has many great libraries surrounding it. I have learned quite a
bit at Simmons and am willing to chat with you about it if you're at all
interested. I am a Children's Librarian at a public library and that
experience has been essential to my success in Library School. Good Luck!
Cheryl
Cbtd@aol.com
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Date: 14 Nov 98 16:59:26 PST
From: Carol Exner <crexner@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [How would you respond to this patron?]
Dear PUBYACers,
My husband is in a wheelchair and on supplimental oxygen, a sufferer of
Post-polio syndrome. In spite of that, he has gotten both his MIS and is
finishing up his MLS. Only recently has he taken disability.
The barriers he has run into have been equaled by the caring and concern
of the people he has met everywhere: at North Carolina Central University
where we both went; at NORTEL, where he used to work; and at the Durham County
Library where he has been asked to speak as an expert on the use of
wheelchair-friendly facilities.
His experience is unusual. I don't mean that people go out of their way
to be cruel; they just don't have a clue about how limiting and frustrating
life is in a wheelchair. Thankfully, he doesn't mind speaking up and asking
for things AND expecting that he will get them. Handicapped people are
laboring under several burdens, only some of them physical. There is a moral
component our culture places on handicapping conditions and it is sorely felt,
if the PPS Support Network is any indication.
What I would suggest, in addition to all the other wonderful suggestions
already offered, is a sensitivity training session at your next staff day.
Get people with handicaps to come in and talk. But give staff a chance to see
what it is to maneauver in a wheelchair or put blinders on and feel their way
around "blind." It can be quite enlightening. And get that elevator
fixed!
The library is out of compliance and open to an ADA suit! EXCELLENT
advertising for the library, eh?
Carol Exner
Children's Librarian, Parkwood Branch
Durham Co. (NC) Library
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