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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 13:58:55 -0500 (EST)
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 11:27:37 -0500
From: Virginia Hoover <ginnie@lfpl.org>
Subject: RE: toddler crafts
When I was doing series of storytimes for 2's and under, instead of a craft,
I would have some sort of playtime where the parents could interact more
with their children, other children, and other parents. I made some toys
out of oatmeal boxes and pringles containers (put holes in the lids to drop
golf balls and non-spring type clothes pins into), and I also spent a little
money and bought some toys at Target (stacking cups, large blocks, etc.).
Some days I would put these toys out, some days I would put out our musical
instruments, some days we would play with stickers and paper, and every time
I would also have small crates with board books in it for them to
"play"
with. I almost always had music playing, and if I had used a flannel board
and/or puppets I left these out to for them to play with along with the
books I used. This would last for 20-30 minutes, and the parents loved it.
Look for other such ideas for toddlers and twos in resource books, and then
show the parents where to find them too. Sometimes, also, I would have out
on a table an open-ended art project, such as shaped sponges and water-proof
ink pads or just crayons and paper for those who wanted to do this. But not
many did.
Ginnie Hoover
Children's Outreach Department
Louisville Free Public Library
301 York Street
Louisville, KY 40203
ginnie@lfpl.org
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:51:18 -0800 (PST)
From: rebecca stutzman <rastutzman@yahoo.com>
Subject: Western-themed Summer Reading Clubs
Thanks to all who have sent messages to me regarding using a Western
theme. All had great ideas and I will try to e-mail for more info.
Rebecca Stutzman
Children's Librarian
North Tonawanda Public Library
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:54:20 EST
From: Evighet@aol.com
Subject: 10 pirates and seuss activities
Quite a few months ago someone (sorry, I've forgotten who) came
up with a really fun idea for a pirate fingerplay/flannelboard. Below is
how we adapted it for our upcoming SLP "Treasure your library".
If anyone can use it, please feel free to (if the originator doesn't mind).
Also, I sent all the Seuss-day activities to the list a week or two
ago, but lost some of my mail. Did it wake the list or should I
repost it?
Chris Jahnke
evighet@aol.com
Great River Regional Library
TEN FIERCE PIRATES
Ten fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One reached up to fly the pirate sign,
He got caught by a cannon ball and then there were nine.
Nine fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One stole some pieces from the first mate,
They made him walk the plank and then there were eight
Eight fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One fought buccaneers, they numbered eleven,
He decided to run, and then there were seven.
Seven fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One went up top, the main missen to fix,
He fell in the ocean and then there were six.
Six fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One saw some treasure and went for a dive,
He met a mean shark and then there were five.
Five fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One found a gold coin and went looking for more,
He found a booby trap and then there were four.
Four fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One fought another for the treasure chest key,
He lost, then he died, and then there were three.
Three fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One lost his footing when a hurricane blew,
To the ocean bottom he sank and then there were two.
Two fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
One stole some treasure, just for the fun,
The other found out and then there was one.
One fierce pirates sailed the seven seas,
Looking for rich vessels to seize;
The ship ran aground while trying to run,
He sank with the ship and then there were none.
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Date: 15 Feb 99 12:13:34 PST
From: Carol Exner <crexner@netscape.net>
Subject: Re: [YA book reviews]
Dear Chuck,
I'm not a Dan Quayle fan either. I prefer Howard Zinn, in fact. But I,
too, am distressed at the number of problems authors seem to be striving to
cram into their novels. Why is this necessary?
No, I don't want to return to the "happy-happy, joy-joy" novels of the
'50s. I grew up on those and have no desire whatsoever to return to them.
And yes, I do realize that families in the '90s can be in serious trouble. I
also realize that the author is inspired to follow wherever the story leads
- --- whether that be into rough waters or not.
I remember one of our adult patrons saying: "Why are there no novels with
strong fathers in them? They are either stupid, insensitive, grossly flawed,
or not there!" She wanted bibliotherapy of another kind: strong, positive
role models for her son growing into the teen years. Is this a crime? I'd
like to think not.
Recently, an award was proposed to honor books with a positive ending or
outcome. Immediately, I thought of _Hatchet_ by Paulsen, _Quake_ by
Cottonwood and _Honus & Me_ by Gutman. They are all great novels (not YA,
but
whose counting?) and have a positive ending. The families aren't perfect and
the kids involved are working through "problems." The award was
ridiculed
everywhere I read about it, and that's too bad. Kids need a reason to hope.
Now I'll step off MY soap box.
Carol Exner, Parkwood Branch
Durham Co. (NC) Library
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 14:04:57 -0500
From: vicki@saline.lib.mi.us (Vicki Ankrapp)
Subject: [none]
In the past few weeks, several people have mentioned Family Booknight =
programs. I would love more information about these programs. If you =
could email me..or drop a note via snail mail...I would greatly =
appreciate it! Thank you.
Vicki Ankrapp
Saline District Library
555 N. Maple Rd.
Saline, MI 48176
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 06:34:22 -0500 (EST)
From: bf455@cleveland.Freenet.Edu (Bonita Kale)
Subject: computers and filters
You know, I thought when I read it that those Internet filters might be a
good idea. I don't see why you can't show the parents where they are,
while telling them that they aren't perfect. I did the "Avi" search
suggested and was impressed. If you have time (we don't, always), it might
be a good idea to demonstrate how to get to one of those search engines and
how to use the filter.
In our library, at least, there's no way parents can imagine we can monitor
their children. The internet computers are all visible from the desk, in
the sense that we can see the kids and tell them to keep all four legs of
the chair on the ground. But we can't see all the screens.
We're about to go over to a sign-up system. Damn. The half-hour limit was
too difficult to enforce without one.
I know what I want, but it doesn't seem to be a possible thing, at least
not the way we are set up. I want free access, but I want some kind of
card doohickey so that when you want to use a computer, a library person
runs the card through the slot. After half an hour, the computer stops
responding and (ideally) brings up a screen saying your time is expired.
Failing that, I'd settle for a button at the info desk. Just as pools are
cleared every hour, I'd throw everyone off the computers ever hour, whether
they'd been on for five minutes or thirty.
Bonita (holding fast to the idea that this is temporary, that soon
computers will be as common as VCRs, and no one will want to use them at
the library except for research).
Jeri Kladder writes
>I'm sorry but...if a filter can't be reasonably expected to filter out
>what you don't want in the way of internet access, aren't you opening
>your library up to all sorts of bad community reaction when a patron's
>child accesses a site they thought you had promised wouldn't be available?
> I would rather tell the parents that they need to be with their child
>while he/she is playing around on the internet than to mislead them into
>believing that I'll be sitting there to steer their child away from
>inappropriate sites. I can't be there. We aren't staffed at that level.
>And I have yet to see a filter that can do the job the parents seem to
>want done. - jeri
>
>
>On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Overmyer wrote:
>
><snip> She demonstrated the voluntary online
>> filters that can be toggled on and off at the Alta Vista and InfoSeek
search
>> engines. Each site clearly indicates when the filter is on, and the
user
>> must specifically agree to use them.<snip>
- --
Bonita Kale
bf455@cleveland.freenet.edu
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 10:17:38 -0500 (EST)
From: Agnes Bury <f600360k@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: YA book reviews
I must confess that I too am no "Pollyanna" and indeed acknowledge the
problems happening all too frequently around us, but I have found my YAs
as well as I personally prefer to indulge in glad fantasy, adventure and
humor.
I have to push the depressing contempory fiction and can't keep the fun
stuff on the shelf. I am not sure if it is the reviewers fault in this,
but I do wish more positive books were written (and not just the serials
types.)
Abby Hindulak
Wadsworth Public Library
Wadsworth, OHio
"What better school for manners than the company of virtuous women."
David Hume
A-
f600360k@bcfreenet.seflin.lib.fl.us
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 18:39:40 -0500 (EST)
From: Toni Grow <growtoni@metronet.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Knickerbocker glory recipe
Someone just asked about British dessert mentioned in a couple of books
and I managed to hit delete somehow, so I am posting this to the list.
Found the recipe with an altavista.com search. It is indeed a kind of
"glorified" sundae.
WARNING: this was a British site, so measures and terms may be strange.
KnickerBocker Glory
1 x 1 pint packet raspberry jelly
Melba sauce:
1 x 8 oz can raspberries
juice of 1/2 lemon
2 oz caster sugar
2 oz shelled hazelnuts, finely chopped
1/4 pint whipping cream, stiffly whipped
4 cherries (fresh or glace)
peaches
bananas
vanilla ice cream
Make the jelly according to packet directions, then leave to set.
Meanwhile, make the Melba sauce: put the raspberries, lemon
juice and sugar in a pan and heat gently until the sugar has
dissolved. Remove from the heat, then rub through a sieve into a
measuring jug. Measure 150 ml/1/4 pint puree, making it up with the
water as necessary. Mix the arrowroot to a paste with a
little cold water. Return the puree to the rinsed-out pan, stir in the
arrowroot paste and bring to the boil. Lower the heat and
simmer until the sauce thickens, stirring constantly. Leave until
cool. Chop the jelly roughly, then put 1 spoonful in the bottom of
each of 4 Knickerbocker Glory or sundae glasses. Put a few peach slices
on top of the jelly. Peel and slice the bananas, then put a few slices
on top of the peaches. Put 1 scoop of ice cream in each glass, then pour
over a little of the Melba sauce and sprinkle with nuts. Continue with these
layers until all the ingredients are used up, then pipe a whirl of cream on
top of each glass and top with a cherry - 'delicious'. Serve immediately.
Toni Grow
Adult Reading Librarian
Baldwin Public Library
Birmingham, MI
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Date: Tue, 16 Feb 1999 09:35:00 -0500 (EST)
From: Katja Ermann <kermann@rvcc.raritanval.edu>
Subject: Stumper: back of the merry-go-round poem
I have a patron looking for a poem about a black boy who is looking for
the back of the merry-go-round. Obviously this is a civil rights-era
piece, and I'm guessing it is by an African American poet, but I havent
been able to find the author or title in the usual poetry sources
(Poemfinder, Grainger's, etc.).
Sound familiar?
Katja
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Katja Ermann, Children's Librarian
Somerset County Library, Hillsborough Branch (NJ)
kermann@rvcc.raritanval.edu
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:41:47 -0800 (PST)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: YA book reviews
On Sat, 13 Feb 1999 schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us wrote:
snipped: VOYA reviews presume the majority of teens have (1)
dysfunctional families (2) active sex-lives & (3) Deep Angst.
> about it. Wouldn't it be nice to feel as though you could read
> reliable reviews without being constantly aware of the sound of axes
> being ground in the background? (And no, I am not a Dan Quayle fan...)
> Having vented for the morning I will now step off my soapbox.
In fairness to VOYA, even Vicky (RING OF ENDLESS LIGHT) and myself
(reasonably happy family, no teen sex-life) had loads and loads of #3. I
think it goes with the territory. Zenna Henderson (no bleak writer) wrote
"touch a tween [teenager], touch a tender spot."
But your complaints about (1) & (2) are fair - but not just for VOYA.
There is a type of error - it's been around since the middle ages - that
goes: Because reality includes: Hatred, ulcerated colons, vomit,
flesh-eating bacteria, betrayal, slime-mold[*], tooth-decay, incest,
pimples &etc. it does not also include: Love, delicious meals, hyacinths,
symbiotes, faithfulness, octopi[*], warm kisses, loving families soft skin
&etc. Hence books which focus on the former are "realistic", while
those
that focus on the latter are "phony".
Most reviewers are rather like Wise Wit [**] except that they've lost
their daytime eye.
Kirsten Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org
[*] I actually think both are pretty cool.
[**]c.f. THE GLASSBLOWER'S CHILDREN / Maria Gripe.
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 12:21:05 -0600
From: "Jim Maroon" <storypage@usa.net>
Subject: Re: Internet filters
>I'm sorry but...if a filter can't be reasonably expected to filter out
>what you don't want in the way of internet access,
There are filters out there that can, so it is a moot argument.
- --Jim Maroon
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:31:52 -0500
From: LEVERNEM@spart.spt.lib.sc.us
Subject: toddler opening and closing songs
How many of you use an opening and closing song? Can you post your favorite?
- -
Leverne McBeth, Branch Assistant
Tri-Pacolet Branch
390 W. Main St. (864) 474-0421
Pacolet, SC 29372 Levernem@spart.spt.lib.sc.us
"Any opinions expressed are those of the individual
and may not reflect the opinions or policies of the Spartanburg
County Public Library."
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 13:51:34 -0800 (PST)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: Internet filters
On Sun, 14 Feb 1999, Jeri Kladder wrote:
> I'm sorry but...if a filter can't be reasonably expected to filter out
> what you don't want in the way of internet access, aren't you opening
> your library up to all sorts of bad community reaction when a patron's
> child accesses a site they thought you had promised wouldn't be available?
snipped - not enough staff to hand-hold every child...
Jeri,
I agree with what you wrote about patron expectations, but I'm still
intrigued by:
> On Tue, 9 Feb 1999, Overmyer wrote:
>
> <snip> She demonstrated the voluntary online
> > filters that can be toggled on and off at the Alta Vista and InfoSeek
search
> > engines. Each site clearly indicates when the filter is on, and the
user
> > must specifically agree to use them.<snip>
Doesn't that approach the ideal? The patrons who want filters (never mind
our opinions about their actual usefulness) can have them without
innconveniencing the other patrons who don't want them. I'm not morally
opposed to filters per se & this seems to offer a good compromise.
Kirsten Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org
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Date: Mon, 15 Feb 1999 20:59:27 -0700 (MST)
From: Rebecca Dyer <rflewell@du.edu>
Subject: Re: Stumper: Shel Silverstein
Hello all -
I remembered my dad pointing out Shel Silverstien's name on a Dr. Hook
album to me when I was little, so I went looking for more info on the web.
At www.tunes.com they have a short biography of him stating, "He
originally gained fame as a cartoonist and satirist for Playboy magazine".
They go on to say he wrote numerous songs including Johnny Cash's "A Boy
Named Sue", Loretta Lynn's "One's On the Way", and many Dr. Hook
songs,
including "Cover of the Rolling Stone".
They don't even mention his children's books!
I never knew any of this, so I thought I'd pass it on...
Rebecca Dyer
rflewell@du.edu
University of Denver Library Science Program
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