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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:01:52 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:31:27 -0700
From: torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us (Torrie Hodgson Children's Librarian)
Subject: Re: weight
Hooray!!! Thank you for the reminder to return to list topics, and
the concise summation of the issue at hand! I'm relieved that I do not have
to be the health police, and can return to diversifying my collection. (Is
diversifying a word--I hope so. I'm not sure I'm ready for another
digression. *grin*)
On the topic of weight, are there any recent updates to the J and YA
fiction offerings that are about or that touch on the matter of appearance
and self-worth? (These stupid computer problems are really eating into my
review-reading time.) I'm not just thinking about fat and skinny, and I
would like to have books that are good literature--thank goodness the
popularity of Sweet Valley High is declining here.
Some that come immediately to mind are (and these are older):
_Lizard_ by Dennis Covington
_The unlikely romance of Kate Bjorkman_ by Louise Plummer
or even
_Rosy Cole, she walks in beauty_ by Sheila Greenwald.
How about it? Any takers? Of course I'll post the finished bib
when I'm done.
Torrie 8)
Torrie Hodgson, mutant librarian from the center of the earth!
Burlington Public Library
900 East Fairhaven Ave
Burlington, WA 98233
Phone (360) 755-0760 Fax (360) 755-0717
torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:26:54 -0700
From: Susan LaFantasie <slafanta@pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: weight
For those of you who are confused about wether a fat person can be healthy
and fit please visit www.naafa.org for more information. There are also
some book recommendations at that site that might be useful to you.
Susan LaFantasie, MLS
slafanta@pcl.lib.wa.us
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 07:23:16 -0400
From: kskellen@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us (Kendra Skellen)
Subject: RE: New computer system organization
Our computers also access everything that the library has to offer.
In our branches we have 10 computers in the main area and two in the
childrens area. The two in the childrens area are set up on smaller desk
that make it harder for an adult to use. Their main menu screen is also
much simpler and I think that makes most of the adults think that all these
computers do are the kids learning game programs. We also have the kiddie
lan computers behind plexi so that the kids cannot play with the actual
computer. They only have access to the keyboard, mouse and monitor. And
yes, they will touch every knob they can.
Out of the 10 computers in the main area, two computers have signs on them
stating that they are to be use for no longer than 5 minutes. In other
words short searches only. They rest of the computers have signs limiting
the use to 30 minutes. This is only enforced when the branch is very busy,
and yes it is hard to monitor. We have found that the majority of the c
ustomers will work with us and will get off when asked. There are some who
will play the computer hopping game. When they know that they have been
close to 30 minutes, they will hop to another computer that frees up and
start their 30 minutes over. You just have to be more aware of who has
been on the computers when it is busy.
Kendra Skellen
Librarian II - Programming and Outreach
Gwinnett County Public Library
1001 Lawrenceville Hwy
Lawrenceville, GA 30025-4707
770-277-6011
(fax) 770-822-5379
kskellen@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 20:00:34 -0700
From: "Ann W. Spring" <awspring@pacbell.net>
Subject: Shelf Depth
Does anyone have a way of varying shelf depth so that items such as
video cassette cases, paperback books, books on tape won't shift around
to the back of the shelf?
I have put down strips of foamboard to act as "bumpers" as well as
putting some boxes filled with discarded books behind the items in an
attempt to keep everything from falling all over the place.
Ideas?
Ann Spring
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 00:08:16 -0400
From: Nancy Mohan <nmohan@adan.kingston.net>
Subject: Re: New computer system organization
At 10:45 AM 4/14/99 -0500, you wrote:
>
>We will be installing a new web based circulation and catalog system this
>summer. We have two questions that have come up during planning, and
>I would welcome opinions based on other's experience.
>
>
Hi Jane
Our library system has just introduced public internet access. In ourlarger
branches we have dedicated stations for internet and people have book time
to use the internet.
WE have other PCs which have cd ROMs on a network so all the cd ROMs are
available at all the stations except the ones offering the internet.The
library databases are also available on these stations. At our main branch
we have about seven "link " terminals which only display the library
database but these are gradually being phased out in favour of the opac's
which give a wider range of options.
I think it is a good idea to keep some stations just for internet. You don't
want to run into the situation of having no computers available from which
to search your own libray catalogue!
As far as towers on the floor, we have had them on the floor and on the
table tops but have experienced little difficulty with them in either
location. An occasional child wanders by and turns off the computer but that
is not too serious as the computer just has to be re-booted. Good luck.
Nancy Mohan, Children's Librarian,Kingston, Ont. Canada. Library e-mail
nmohan@kfpl.library.on.ca
>
>
Nancy Mohan
R.R.# 3 Bath,Ont.
KOH 1GO
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:46:55 -0500
From: anthill@megsinet.net (Tanya M. DiMaggio)
Subject: re: weight
The following statement by Lesley Knieriem has promted me to add my two
cents to this discussion on weight and body size. I think this statement is
also an example of "size-ism". Young women who are exceptionally tall
and
thin- by their own unique genetic makeup, are not freaks. I'm not a great
supporter of the fashion magazine industry and I'm sure many of the young
women we see in fashion and teen magazines have unhealthly attitudes about
their bodies and engage in unhealthy activity to maintain a certain look. I
feel sorry for them and I certainly don't begrudge them. However, for those
young women who are very tall modeling has offered them a place where they
are not considered freaks. I have friends who are "model" thin
(downright
skinny) and live healthy lifestyles (which in our point of view includes
ice cream, cookies, butter on the popcorn...) They would die for some
cleavage and some curves, but it isn't going to happen. So, they wear a
size 4 and I wear a 14 and we all are naturally beautiful. I guess I'm just
trying to say, let's be careful of not referring to ANYONE as a genetic
freak.
> they are, to be brief, genetic freaks
>who lead an exceedingly UNhealthy lifestyle to keep up to a unnatural
>standard of beauty.
Look! A Toyota! Kool! --Palindrome of the Month
Tanya DiMaggio
and Gregory Fisk
anthill@megsinet.net
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:49:43 -0700
From: Susan LaFantasie <slafanta@pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: mother-daughter book club
For those of you taking an interest in the mother-daughter book club
discussions, I want to share the follow up activity idea I have for the
book The Midwife's Apprentice, by Karen Cushman. Because plants are an
important part of her book, we will be making bookmarks (to tie into books)
with dried plants and herbs. I will be pressing my own (for the first
time) as I have been wanting to do this, anyway. I have a book called
Keeping the Plants You Pick, by Laura Louise Foster. It has craft ideas as
well as explains how to press flowers. I am sure there are other good
books on the subject.
Susan LaFantasie, MLS
slafanta@pcl.lib.wa.us
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:59:30 PDT
From: "Susan Graf" <susangraf27@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: MONSTERS
If you can find a copy of the Oct/Nov 1997 "MAILBOX: The Idea Magazine
for Teachers-Preschool Edition" there is a great section on monsters.
Songs, fingerplays, art ideas, songs, etc. There's a separate section
with great ideas to use with Where the Wild Things Are, too.
There is also a reproduction of Where the Wild Things Are monster that
I used for a program. We copied all the "parts" on bright colors, let
the kids create their own monster, complete with feathers and sequins.
It was a lot of fun.
Susan Graf
Family Services Librarian
North Las Vegas Library District
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 15:13:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kelli Shimabukuro <shimabuk@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us>
Subject: Re: popcorn color
Is it to be edible? If so, I would make a lite Karo syrup mixture and add
paste food coloring to it (cake supply stores) then mix with popped
popcorn like you were making carmel corn or popcorn balls. If you add food
coloring to the oil, it will not soak into the kernel. If they are to be
inedible, spray with florist spray from a craft store.
Kelli
Kelli Shimabukuro, Assistant Branch Manager
East Columbia Branch
Howard County Library
6600 Cradelrock Way
Columbia, MD 21045
(410) 313-7708
shimabuk@nitnoi.howa.lib.md.us
On Wed, 14 Apr 1999, Kelly Richards wrote:
> Try putting food color in the oil
>
> Pamela Stack wrote:
>
> > I am trying to make lilacs with popped popcorn. Does anyone have an
idea
> > how to color popcorn without making it soggy? Thanks for your help!
>
>
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 08:38:55 EDT
From: Sukahn@aol.com
Subject: censorship
I am a student at Queens College. During our class we discussed
censorship in YA libraries. I was wondering what policies there are with
regard to rap music being made available in libraries
Thanks,
Susan Kahn
Sukahn @aol.com
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:39:00 PDT
From: "Susan Graf" <susangraf27@hotmail.com>
Subject: RE: pubyac V1 #667
I have had great success with THe Bossy Gallito (Lucia Gonzalez). My
assistant did beautiful felt creations of the animals, and the
children enjoy my bilingual approach, learning the names of the
animals and other participants in the cumulative tale.
Also, I tried a craft with Cucu/Cuckoo by Ehlert. I cut lots of shapes
of bright colored card stock with the paper cutter. I gave out those
brads that look like a bronze tack, with two pieces of metal that fold
out and hold papers together--and a few paper punches. The children
created their own animals out of the shapes, like those in the book.
Although my Spanish is extremely limited, the children (and parents)
enjoy using both languages for the stories.
Susan Graf
Family Services Librarian
North Las Vegas Library District
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:57:46 -0500 (CDT)
From: georgi3@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Star Wars
Is anyone planning to do any programs to tie into the release of the new Star
Wars movie? I'd be interested in hearing about them. I'd also be interested
in hearing about any other sci-fi titles that young Star Wars fans (children)
would be likely to enjoy.
Thanks,
Georgi Lon-curcio
East Islip Public Library
Long Island, NY
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 11:46:18 -0700
From: Susan LaFantasie <slafanta@pcl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: Fat
Chuck, I am glad that you are interested in this subject; however, the
snippet below is not mine, it came from someone else.
However, I posted a good site for resources earlier today--www.naafa.org.
There was an article published in JAMA (I believe) retracting the idea that
being overweight meant being unhealthy, but I have been unable to track it
down due to time constraints (I thought the citation was in the NAAFA site).
If you want to start another discussion, we could talk about how health
care professionals are trained (or not) regarding health and fat people,
wether health insurance companies benefit from maintaining the idea that
fat is unhealthy, diet industry benefits, and the difficulty for fat people
to obtain adequate health care. Let's not mention standard height-weight
charts and who is responsible for determining those? Does the fitness
industry have a vested interest in showing us that in order to work out and
be fit you must be some size other than you are?
However, none of these relates to libraries so I haven't brought them
up:-). Take a look at your children's collections and young adult
collections and decide for yourself wether there is a bias. How many
positive images of fat people to you see in your easy readers, easy picture
books, etc?
Susan LaFantasie, MLS
slafanta@pcl.lib.wa.us
(OF COURSE my opinions are my own!)
At 10:40 AM 4/12/99 -0400, you wrote:
>>
>>
>> Oh, Chuck--you're buying into all the myths about fat
people.("Fat," by the
>> way, is not a dirty word) Please read "Fat? So!" by Marilyn
Wann. Also
>> "Life in the Fat Lane" by Cherie Bennett for an excellent
look at what it's
>> like to be a fat teenaged girl in America today.
>> Why should everyone be thin?
>
>Susan - Who said anything remotely suggesting that everyone should be
thin? I
>suggested that from what I had read excess weight is not good for you in a
number
>of ways, but fat and thin are not the only choices - most of the world falls
>somewhere inbetween, and inbetween should be within the reach of nearly
all of us
>as far as I can see. Diversity is great as long as it's not harmful
>physically/socially/spiritually and doesn't restrict future options. If
behaviour
>patterns are harmful I don't think we ought to feel obligated to encourage
them.
>If I have been misinformed about the whole health aspect here - Lord knows
I've
>been wrong before - I would be very open to being enlightened. Anybody have
>access to a good summation of WHAT THE LITERATURE SAYS? When excess weight
>severely restricts the ability to be active I have a hard time iimagining
how it's
>not going to contribute to poor health since excercise is so important.
Feeling
>as thought it's time to get back to focusing on other things - Chuck
>
>
>
>
>
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 12:55:48 -0700 (PDT)
From: charles curtopelle <curtopelle777@yahoo.com>
Subject: question
I am a library trainee and would like advice, opinions on how to serve
teens in the public library who come in for the sole purpose of
"hanging out."
How can I help to get these teens interested in what we have to
offer them. How can I help to take their energy and put it to useful
and positive use.
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 21:50:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: "<Lesley Knieriem>" <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: weight
Andria Amaral ever so politely reminded me that I was also guilty
of size-ist assumptions -- not all very thin women are "genetic
freaks",
as I put it, and metabolism has as much to do with body shape as
lifestyle, healthy or otherwise. I do apologize to all I offended --
it's a subject which tends to arouse my passions.
Nonetheless, I stand by my main point -- if a library is to model
any sort of behavior or philosophy, we would do much better standing for
our traditional role of diversity of opinion than to push -- even by
the absence of alternatives -- any one lifestyle or look, no matter how
healthy we might think it to be. I think that the most transforming thing
about the great use of the Internet is that it is creating a
cyber-community that by definition overlooks distinctions of size, or
color, or age, or any other superficial character!
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~ Lesley Knieriem ~
~ YA / Reference Librarian (516) 549-4411 ~
~ South Huntington Public Library fax (516) 549-6832 ~
~ Huntington Station, NY 11746 lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us ~
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:13:17 -0400 (EDT)
From: trinita@email.com
Subject: Re Youth Participation in libraries
In our graduate library class, we have been discussing the issue of youth
participation in public libraries; and how they can be involved in decision
making processes and or services to themselves or others. We have also discussed
how essential it is to have administrative support for such youth involvement.
Can anyone report on their own experiences with youth participation in their
particular library and how successful such experiences are? Many thanks. Diana
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 1999 19:42:42 -0400
From: Steve and Kathy Kirchoefer <kirchoef@dclink.com>
Subject: Re: bins for picture books?
Bins? Ack! From a child's standpoint, bins are great--easy to see, easy
to reach all those fantastic picture books. From a librarian's perpective,
well . . .I started my career as a children's librarian last year at a
rather large branch of an urban library system. One of the first things
that my supervisor said to me was that perhaps I could come up with some
way of organizing the bins. At the time they were very loosely arranged by
author's last name which meant when a phone call came in for a title, you
had to flip through almost an entire letter's section to find the requested
book. We had the books facing forward so that when children looked in the
bin, the cover of the book was facing them. Fine for the kids, terrible for
us. I turned the books on their sides with the spines facing upwards. Not
as convenient for the kids who are now looking at the backs of the books,
but fine for the librarian's who can now tell from the spine who the author
is and what the title is AND we were able to arrange the books in fairly
strict alphabetical order. However, the bins are still quite accessible to
the children who stick books wherever and they quickly get out of order.
At any rate, as you can tell, bins are not my favorite shelving option!
Kathy Kirchoefer
Children's Librarian
PGCMLS--Oxon Hill, MD
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:44:55 -0500 (CDT)
From: georgi3@ix.netcom.com
Subject: children's advisory board
An interesting question was raised in my Services to Youth in the Public
Library class with Mary K. Chelton this week:
Would it be feasible to have a children's advisory board for the children's
department?
Or would it be too difficult to deal with children in this way? Have any of
you tried implementing such a board? If so, I would appreciate hearing of
your efforts, and I believe others on PUBYAC may also be interested.
Thank you.
Georgi Lon-curcio
Children's Librarian
East Islip Public Library
Long Island NY
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Date: Thu, 15 Apr 1999 14:17:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Charlene Noll <hslkids@yahoo.com>
Subject: computers & kids
It appears that children are being introduced to computers at a
younger and younger age. With this in mind, is there anyone finding a
direct link with this and the behavior of children during storytimes?
What are some of the problems being experienced and how are you
coping? Any suggestions on what can be done?
Thank you for your candidness. It is greatly appreciated. You can
respond to me at hslkids@yahoo.com
Dot Reciniello
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 12:16:17 -0500
From: Steph Fruhling <stephanie.fruhling@uni.edu>
Subject: Need info: Programs and Relationships in Community
Hello,
I am looking for information/descriptions about various relationships
libraries have within the community. I am specifically looking for
relationships and projects with other agencies, foundations, local
governments and institutions. I am also interested in relationships
with other libraries. What creative approaches to using the public
library as a vital center of the community are going on out there?
Much thanks!
Stephanie Fruhling
Library Assistant
Hudson Public Library, Hudson, Iowa
Fruhling@uni.edu
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 13:16:30 -0400
From: "Capehart" <capehart@ziplink.net>
Subject: Storyline machines
Hello All,
Our old storyline machine has decided not to accompany us into the new
millennium. Does anyone out there have a source for such machines? We have
been using an answering machine, but we would like to get something designed
for "storylines." Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thank you in
advance!
Timothy Capehart
Head Children's Services
Leominster Public Library
Leominster, MA
tcapehar@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
"I just want something that won't break my glasses when I fall asleep
reading it in bed."-Elderly patron on her reasons for reading young adult
fiction
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Date: Sun, 18 Apr 1999 11:13:29 -0400
From: Andrea Rappa <grappa@erols.com>
Subject: Re: Library School
I just graduated from Library School. I'm amazed at how little I learned
there that would help me on my job. I worked in a library for several
years before I went to library school. I learned how a library runs
from that experience and not from my education. I don't think a
master's degree is necessary to become a librarian. To answer your
question, I think there should be more courses on your particular field
of interest. I also believe hands on experience is the best so I would
recommend that students do an internship.
This is only my personal opinion.
Andrea
Camden County Library
Voorhees, NJ
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 18:34:09 -0400
From: "Charm Net" <jamiew@charm.net>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #669
Responding to two discussions:
1. Since we only have 3 (!!!!!!) Pc's in my very busy branch library we
have designated them 1 for catalog use only and 2 for Internet use. We take
a sign up, 30 minutes a day, for Internet usage; otherwise they would be
monopolized for sure.
2. In all the discussions of whether to put picture books in perfect
alphabetical order or generally only by letter, almost everyone mentioned
the ease of browsing a collection that isn't in perfect order. I don't see
how it is any easier to browse a collection this way, but much harder to
find a specific book. I know that I could shelf read my picture books every
day and they would never be in perfect order, but at least they are close.
When I use other libraries in my state I am always annoyed with out of order
picture books.
Just my 2cents.
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Date: Fri, 16 Apr 1999 17:05:51 -0400
From: Babette Wofter <wofterba@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Lullaby Concert
I just had to share my delight with the program idea I stole from this
listserv as suggested by the folks at Tippecanoe County Public Library
in Lafayette, Indiana.
Last night, in celebration of National Library Week we hosted a Lullaby
Concert. It was a family program especially geared to the very young
child. A trio of "flutists" played before, during and following the
program. They played lullabies and other children's music. The
"program" portion contained stories, nursery rhymes and fingerplays to
go along with the bedtime sort of theme. One of the books we did was,
If You Were My Bunny by Kate McMullan. It contains five animal
lullabies within the context of the story that are sung to familiar
tunes. Everyone was provided with the words and sung along as the
flutists played. Following the program the trio continued to play and
we served dainty little cakes, truffles, mints, and punch.
It was truly a unique program. Thanks so much Tippecanoe for sharing.
We loved it!
Babette Wofter, Youth Services Coordinator
Perry County District Library
New Lexington, Ohio
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