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Date: Tue, 20 Apr 1999 19:58:43 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 10:25:57 -0400
From: "Drabkin, Jane S." <jdrabkin@pwcgov.org>
Subject: RE: Star Wars
We are planning our own alien invasion with a "Gateway to Another
Galaxy."
We'll make a maze from refrigerator boxes saved for us by an appliance
store. The kids will crawl through and will put iridescent stars in and
have aliens poke their heads through. The kids love crawling through the
dark maze. (We do this at Halloween, too.) Refreshments, naturally, are
served at the end.
Jane Drabkin
Chinn Park Library
Prince William, VA
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:27:57 -0500
From: Carol <erkens@home.com>
Subject: Re: question
Talk to them. Get to know them. These may be the 1st line for a teen
council in your branch/library. Ask what they would like to see happening
in the library then plan an afterschool program using some of those ideas.
Friendly, not subservient is the key. And don't hesitate to press the rules
when they are being blaitently(sp?) broken. These are just a few ideas off
the top of my head.
Carol Erkens
Omaha Public Library, Abrahams Branch
At 12:55 PM 4/17/99 -0700, you wrote:
>
>I am a library trainee and would like advice, opinions on how to serve
>teens in the public library who come in for the sole purpose of
>"hanging out."
> How can I help to get these teens interested in what we have to
>offer them. How can I help to take their energy and put it to useful
>and positive use.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:27:03 -0400
From: kskellen@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us (Kendra Skellen)
Subject: RE: computers & kids
In one of our branches, I do the storytime on a rug right in front of the
Kiddie computers. I turn the computer off right before storytime and turn
them back on after. The kids who had been on the computer seem to have
little problem shifting to storytime vs the computer. No one has
complainded that they were there strictly for the computers, not even the
parents.
Kendra Skellen
Librarian II - Programming and Outreach
Gwinnett County Public Library
1001 Lawrenceville Hwy
Lawrenceville, GA 30025-4707
770-277-6011
(fax) 770-822-5379
kskellen@mail.gcpl.public.lib.ga.us
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:17:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: carmel <carmel@ulysses.sebridge.org>
Subject: Re: Need info: Programs and Relationships in Community
There are 8 public libraries in Putnam County New York. All of them are
relatively small by city standards, but medium size relative to most
libraries in upstate New York. Putnam County is a very small county and
four of the libraries are in a 10 mile radius. Our library system deals
with a common card, so patrons regularly use several libraries. All but
two are automated with GEAC. Two have stand-alone circ systems but
dial-up access to both system patron and bibliographic databases. The
directors of the 8 libraries meet once per month for breakfast. Over the
years we have developed some standardized procedures to make it easier
for patrons going from one library to another, shared programs, and even
some innovative county-wide activities, such as "Summer Reading
Celebration", a very big event at the Carmel town park for everyone.
Cooperation has brought us many benefits. When the libraries in our
system decided to automate, we were able to work out a deal with our
county legislature that they would pay one-third the start up costs for
each library, if the individual towns paid one-third, and the libraries
paid one-third. This worked nicely and allowed some libraries that could
not otherwise afford it be able to automate. We frequently apply for
grants cooperatively and try to involve as many community agencies as
possible. Consortia... it's a beautiful thing! Marilyn Schlansky, Reed
Memorial Library, Carmel, NY
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 09:42:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "<Lesley Knieriem>" <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Safe Place
Would any librarian who has had their library designated a "Safe
Place" as part of the national movement (I know that libraries in
Connecticut are so designated) please get in touch with me? I have some
questions about the specifics of the process.
If there is enough interest I will post a summary of the project
to the list. Thanks!
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~ Lesley Knieriem ~
~ YA / Reference Librarian (516) 549-4411 ~
~ South Huntington Public Library fax (516) 549-6832 ~
~ Huntington Station, NY 11746 lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us ~
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~ "Years ago, when trying to invoke the mysterious forces of the ~
~ universe, you said 'Abracadabra.' Today you say, 'I think we ~
~ need to call tech support.'" -- Cecil Adams, THE STRAIGHT DOPE ~
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 11:50:23 -0400
From: ahendon@dorsai.org
Subject: Re: bins for picture books?
I have found that the picture book collection is not only used by
children - it's also used by mothers looking for particular titles on a
reading list, by staff looking for books for reserves, and by teachers
and student teachers and education students, looking for specific
books. Our picture books are shelved although not in order, just by
the letter. I'm working on it....
Alison
BPL
Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org
"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
- Sarah Williams, "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil"
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 07:17:38 -0500
From: Carol <erkens@home.com>
Subject: Re: censorship
Hi Susan,
We try to find the "clean" version of any music we order. If one is
not
available, we check the local and national trends, how our teens are buying
music in the community and if there is a parent's advisery sticker on the
item. We have all types of popular music in the YA collection. There is a
lot of spill-over into the adult collection (due to money), where we also
leave on the parental warning labels.
Carol Erkens
Omaha Public Library, Abrahams Branch
At 08:38 AM 4/16/99 -0400, you wrote:
> I am a student at Queens College. During our class we discussed
>censorship in YA libraries. I was wondering what policies there are with
>regard to rap music being made available in libraries
>
>Thanks,
>Susan Kahn
>Sukahn @aol.com
>
"I GOT to get me one of these!!" Will Smith - ID4
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:18:00 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@lcm.macomb.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Re: weight
Kim wrote -
This is all getting off-point, as someone recently mentioned, but I have to
say that I don't think it's the library's place to tell me what is best for
me.
> Chuck, playing devil's advocate, replies - "So if self-mutilation/scarrinig
> replaces pierciing as the next big symbol of rebellilon and some
> entrepenurial (sp) type comes out with a flashy magazine to promote it, are
> you going to buy it if you have patron interest?
C. Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:59:19 -0400
From: "Stow-Munroe Falls Library, Children's Room" <stowkids@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Star Wars
Hi. We are doing a Prequel Party here at Stow-Munroe Falls Public Library. It
will be a library-wide event on May 15 from 12-3. We will of course have a
costume contest, pictures with their favorite characters from the other movies,
a
big cake, trivia contest and other games I am still working on. It should be a
lot of fun. I guess I have to get working on my costume as time is going fast!
Lydia Gamble YA Librarian
georgi3@ix.netcom.com wrote:
> Is anyone planning to do any programs to tie into the release of the new
Star
> Wars movie? I'd be interested in hearing about them. I'd also be interested
> in hearing about any other sci-fi titles that young Star Wars fans
(children)
> would be likely to enjoy.
>
> Thanks,
>
> Georgi Lon-curcio
> East Islip Public Library
> Long Island, NY
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:27:47 -0400
From: Lesley Gaudreau <lesley@sealib.org>
Subject: Re: endings for mystery nights
Hi all,
Thanks to the 3 people who replied to let me know what endings were
successful with their group(s) in mystery nights. Here are their
comments:
The winner is based on the correct answer and the time turned into the
detective (me) Each group presents the answer - motive-opportunity etc.
Then the actors begin to fall back into their roles and reveal the
answer
by accusing each other. (lots of fun) At this point it is obvious who
won.
Carrie Eldridge
Every team wrote down their solution + a brief description of the
rationale. Yours truly in trench coat & hat as "Detective Osborne"
read them dramatically, allowing teams to comment, argue etc.
Then, when, as it were, all the votes were in, the teens playing the
various parts staged the ending. The "Security guard" came in with
cuffs
to arrest the murderer (Bob Klean) who wrestled with him (great fight
coreography BTW) fought him off, then ran to the wine glass w/the
"poisoned champagne" (ginger ale) tossed it back crying "You'll
never
take
me alive!" and died dramatically.
The security guard then explained to Det. Osborne how he "figured out"
that Bob was the murderer, Det. Osborne handed out prizes to the
winning team & the whole cast got a huge round of applause.
Kirsten (Edwards)
In the mystery kits I create, everyone (as teams or individuals) writes
down answers as to who did what, why, and what evidence supports the
conclusion. We judge them while kids eat and browse mystery and true
crime books on display. Then we announce the winner, and the winner
tells us her (his/their) answers. The second place winner(s) add
additional comments. Then there is a wind-up "newscast" at the end of
the 3 Anyone's Guess kits, and you can also act out the arrest of the
perpetrator. A phone call winds up InvestiCats #1.
Janet Dickey
lesley
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
The University is not engaged in making ideas safe for students.
It is engaged in making students safe for ideas.
- -- Clark Kerr, president of the University of California, 1961
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Lesley Gaudreau
Reference/Teen Librarian
Seabrook Library
lesley@sealib.org
lesley@seabrook.lib.nh.us
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:46:03 -0700
From: Anne <sailors@i-2000.com>
Subject: Re: censorship
Susan:
My library has rap music CDs available to its patrons. Once children
graduate from sixth grade and enter middle school, they are entitled to
adult cards which entitles them to borrow anything in the library. Some of
the rap CDs have parental advisory warnings on them, but we do not censor
them.
Hope this helps
Anne Weinlich Miltenberg
Sukahn@aol.com wrote:
> I am a student at Queens College. During our class we discussed
> censorship in YA libraries. I was wondering what policies there are with
> regard to rap music being made available in libraries
>
> Thanks,
> Susan Kahn
> Sukahn @aol.com
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 14:48:30 -0500 (CDT)
From: Meg Warren <mwarren@fones.cals.lib.ar.us>
Subject: Stuffed Animal Cleaning
During a recent carpet cleaning, we took all the stuffed animals/ puppets
out of the childen's area. Now the carpets are clean, but we'd like to
disinfect the critters before we put them back out. They have been well
loved for over two years.
Does anybody have any ideas?
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Meg Warren
mwarren@fones.cals.lib.ar.us
Phone: 501 851 2551
Fax: 501 851 2633
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 15:41:29 -0400
From: "Deborah Brightwell" <dbright@ci.coppell.tx.us>
Subject: Re: Library School
I definitely believe that what I have learned about being a librarian I learned
on the job and not at school! I worked in a library while going to college
(page, clerk and library assistant) and then went straight into my first
professional job after graduating. While the classes I took on children and
young adult literature were very helpful, as well as some of the
technical/computer and cataloging training I got from some of my classes, no
class can train you or give you the experience you need to deal with the public,
city officials, find and hire professional entertainers, how you go about doing
a storytime, plan and implement a summer reading program and the thousand other
things you do on this job, EXCEPT doing it! More classes on the type of
librarian you plan to be would be helpful, but can this be taught in a class?
That is why I love this listserve, my local resource sharing meetings with other
children's librarians, and going to various training meetings on topi!
!
!
cs dealing with my job. I find I gain a lot of useful tips and info from these
types of things that I can use in my day-to-day career. I don't want to get into
a discussion of whether a degree or master's degree is necessary to do my job,
but I will say that I feel that having a degree shows a certain level of
competence and commitment to our field.
Debbie Brightwell
Children's Librarian
Coppell Public Library
Coppell, Texas
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:12:13 PDT
From: "Elaine Moustakas" <elainem9@hotmail.com>
Subject: trains, turtles, and openers?
hi all--
anyone have any great ideas of fingerplays/songs/etc... for the theme
or trains or turtles?
also, some ideas for "openers"...a song or fingerplay to begin each
storytime with?
thank you!
elaine
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 13:35:04 -0500 (CDT)
From: Carol Leeson <cleeson@nslsilus.org>
Subject: Re: weight and ice cream
Was I the only one struck by the juxtaposition of the discussion about
healthy lifestyles, eating habits and body size with the suggestion for a
storytime song (made by Chuck, I believe) that states "The more we all
eat ice cream the happier we'll be?"
Now that I too have been pulled into this thread I have to share a little
of my story. I have been overweight most of my adult life. Besides
being overweight I suffer from clinical depression and some form of
hormonal imbalance similar to PMS. I have a very problematic
relationship to food. I have recently thrown away our bathroom scale. I
reiterate to myself everyday that "It is not about weight, but about
making healthy choices." I am exercising everyday, I have a pretty good
control developed over what I drink, water, with a limited amount of
juice and milk, but no caffeine or sugary drinks. I am still struggling
with food choices. I face the problem decision by decision, if I faced
it day by day it would be too easy to have a sausage sandwich in the
morning and since I have blown it today I'll eat what I want and start
tomorrow.
I can remember my parents or grandparents telling me, "Eat more or you
will dry up and blow away." I also have a very emotional relationship
with food that I'm sure comes in part from the society attitude, "Have a
cookie it will make you feel better." I also have a strong memory of my
mother on various diets struggling with her own weight. The emphasis was
always on how much she weighed and how long it would take her to be able
to go on a "maintenance diet" so that she could eat more like the rest
of
us.
Now back to the original point. I think that telling kids that a certain
food or more of a certain food can make them happy is much more damaging
than letting them see that not everybody that is acceptable to be in
pictures etc. has to be thin and shapely.
By the way one of my favorite magazines for adults, Cooking Light, is
making an effort to portray people of different sizes engaged in healthy
activities.
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
Carol Leeson
Head of Youth Services
Mount Prospect Public Library
10 S. Emerson
Mt. Prospect, Il 60056
(847)253-5675
cleeson@mppl.org
The opinions expressed here are my own and do not reflect those of the Library.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:21:14 -0400
From: "Susan R. Hawk" <hawks@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: Re: bins for picture books?
>2. In all the discussions of whether to put picture books in perfect
>alphabetical order or generally only by letter, almost everyone mentioned
>the ease of browsing a collection that isn't in perfect order. I don't see
>how it is any easier to browse a collection this way, but much harder to
>find a specific book. I know that I could shelf read my picture books every
>day and they would never be in perfect order, but at least they are close.
>When I use other libraries in my state I am always annoyed with out of order
>picture books.
I think that the question of to shelve in perfect alphabetical order or to
have a loose filing system for picture books is dependent upon who is/how
many are responsible for shelving. When I used the Leroy Collins-Leon
County Public Library, I was amazed that they were able to keep their
picture books in such absolute order. One must remember that LCPL has a
magnificent team of volunteers on hand to be sure that the books are in
such good order.
In the library where I currently work, the majority of our picture book
shelving is done by a very small group (initially a trio, now a duo) of
special education students from a local high school. We participate in the
school system's vocational-based training for students with disabilities.
Last year, our picture books were organized by the first two letters of the
author's last name. This year, due to patron demand, the picture books are
shelved by the first 3 letters. Our patrons would love it (and so would I)
if the books were in absolute alphabetical order. This is not a possibility
due to the abilities of the students. One of the two has a very difficult
time just getting the first letter right, let alone the second and third.
And once the books are in order on the cart, they still have to file them
on the shelves. This may seem like a simple task to most of us, but for
teenagers with mental disabilities, the task is a great feat, which can
sometimes lead to great frustration.
So, we shelve by the first 3 letters only. Patrons have come to understand
our situation.
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Susan R. Hawk, Youth Services Librarian
hawks@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us
Redan-Trotti Library (DCPL)
1569 Wellborn Rd.
P. O. Box 709 PHONE: (770) 482-3281
Redan, GA 30074 FAX: (770) 482-3285
Opinions expressed are my own and do not necessarily
represent those of the DeKalb County Public Library.
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:20:32 -0500
From: Mary Driscoll <driscoll@scls.lib.wi.us>
Subject: Unattended Thank you!
Thanks to all you responded to my question about what age you allow
unattended children in the library. Because of your wonderful response, I
was able to convince our board to raise our age from 6 to 8 (many were
shocked that parents would allow their 8 year old to be alone!).
I received many responses from around the country, and the average age was
8. I would be happy to forward responses if anyone else out there is
struggling with this issue.
Thanks!
Mary
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 16:45:37 -0500 (EST)
From: Cory Michael King <cormking@indiana.edu>
Subject: teens in the library
What to do with the YAs? I am graduating from Indiana University SLIS
this semester and entering as a YA librarian. To me, the book _Connecting
Young Adults and Libraries_ by Patrick Jones (Neal-Schuman, ISBN:
1555701086) is the authority. Of course, it depends considerably on the
resources of your library, but there are lots of ways to reach this group.
I wouldnt jump to conclusions about teens just "hanging out" because
that's a big part of being a teen. I dont claim expertise in this area
because Im just starting out. But if they find some interesting
opportunities at the library, volunteer opportunities, programs, etc, or
there are some good resources, books, music, games, etc, and they are
treated with fairness and respect then you're on the right track.
Dont take my word for it, read the Jones book. Hope this helps.
- --Cory
Cory King
School of Library and Information Science
Indiana University
http://php.indiana.edu/~cormking/resume/reshome.html
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 12:06:11 -0600 (MDT)
From: PUBYAC <pyowner@pallasinc.com>
Subject: PUBYAC Archives back
I am happy to report that the PUBYAC archives are back online, at least
for now, and again accessible from the Nysernet gopher. Either point your
gopher to
gopher://nysernet.org:70/1m/ftp/listserv/pubyac/
or click on this as a web page. Note: Do NOT use http://
Please note that although the search engine says "Search 1997 PUBYAC
Postings by keyword Link", it really means Search 1997-1999 Postings.
You can also get to the PUBYAC gopher via the Search page on the PUBYAC
web page: www.pallasinc.com/pubyac
Shannon VanHemert
PUBYAC Moderator
pyowner@pallasinc.com
PUBYAC Web page: http://www.pallasinc.com/pubyac
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Date: Mon, 19 Apr 1999 18:07:06 -0500
From: "Mary J. Soucie" <mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: Library School
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Dear Pubyackers (and LM_NETters),
Hi! I wasn't going to chime in on this one but after the last few posts c=
ouldn't help myself. (grin!) I received my MLIS in August of '98 after t=
wo years, year round, of working in a library full time and taking my cla=
sses. I also have a BS of Education (Elementary). I think there is a dif=
ference between taking an ALA accredited program and having a degree in a=
different but related field, especially for public libraries. There are=
definitely things that you learn on the job, but the groundwork for that=
knowledge is laid in library school. I am very glad that I pursued my M=
LIS. I would love to get my Doctorate in Library Science also but so far=
have been able to find very few programs that offer one, none of which a=
re in my state. I will probably pursue a Doctorate in Education so I can=
teach college at some point. However, I wouldn't feel competent to teac=
h LS classes if I didn't have my MLIS!! The person who accepted my posit=
ion when I left my school library last year has
the 18 hour endorsement on her certificate. She is still calling me with=
basic questions! I think we need to advocate (and educate) as a profess=
ion to ensure continued recognition of the importance of and quality rece=
ived for ALA MLIS degrees!
Thaks for letting me share my quarters worth! 8-)
- --
Mary J. Soucie
Youth Services Consultant
Heritage Trail Library System
815-729-3345 x110
mailto:mjsoucie@htls.lib.il.us
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