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Date: Tue, 8 Jun 1999 14:24:44 -0400 (EDT)
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Subject: pubyac V1 #714
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 19:23:08 -0400 (EDT)
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Date: Fri, 04 Jun 1999 18:29:15 -0700
From: michael crosby <mdcrosby@earthlink.net>
Subject: Post Office Internet Tax
Post Office Internet Tax
Dear PUBYAKERS:
Please read the following carefully if you intend to stay online and
continue using email. The last few months have revealed an alarming
trend in the Government of the United States attempting to quietly
push through legislation that will affect your use of the Internet.
Under proposed legislation the U.S. Postal Service will be attempting
to bill email users out of "alternate postage fees". Bill 602P will
permit the Federal Government to charge a 5-cent surcharge on every
email delivered, by billing Internet Service Providers at source. The
consumer would then be billed in turn by the ISP. Washington D.C.
lawyer Richard Stepp is working without pay to prevent this
legislation from becoming law.
The U.S. Postal Service is claiming that lost revenue due to the
proliferation of email is costing nearly $230,000,000 in revenue per
year. You may have noticed their recent ad campaign "There is nothing
like a letter". Since the average citizen received about 10 pieces of
email per day in 1998, the cost to the typical individual would be an
additional 50 cents per day, or over $180 dollars per year, above and
beyond their regular Internet costs. Note that this would be money
paid directly to the U.S. Postal Service for a service they do not
even provide.
The whole point of the Internet is democracy and non-interference. If
the federal government is permitted to tamper with our liberties by
adding a surcharge to email, who knows where it will end? You are
already paying an exorbitant price for snail mail because of
bureaucratic efficiency. It currently takes up to 6 days for a letter
to be delivered from New York to Buffalo. If the U.S. Postal Service
is allowed to tinker with email, it will. Mark the end of the "free"
Internet in the United States.
One congressman, Tony Schnell (R) has even suggested a "twenty to
forty dollar per month surcharge on all Internet service" above and
beyond the government's proposed email charges. Note that most of the
major newspapers have ignored the story, the only exception being the
Washingtonian which called the idea of email surcharge "a useful
concept who's time has come" March 6th 1999 Editorial). Don't sit by
and watch your freedoms erode away!
Send this email to all Americans on your list and tell your friends
and relatives to write to their congressman and say "No!" to Bill
602P.
Kate Turner
Assistant to Richard Stepp,
Berger, Stepp and Gorman Attorneys at Law
216 Concorde Street, Vienna, Va.
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Date: Fri, 4 Jun 1999 22:53:01 EDT
From: Pisces0243@aol.com
Subject: Re: Classics with offensive language?
Mary Johnson raised the issue of weeding or keeping Jonathan Kozol's
"Death at an Early Age" despite its outdated and possibly offensive
language.
>From a collection management point of view, I think it is reasonable to keep
*Death at an Early Age*, in a library collection with a "substantial
education section". It would be problematic if this were the *only* of
Kozol's
books in your collection, but I'm assuming you have many of his later works,
including *Amazing Grace* (which I believe should be in any YA collection!).
It could be a very interesting YA program to discuss Kozol's works, and
trace the evolution of his thought (and use of language) over 3 decades!
I'd suggest examining the cataloging though, to see if the
subject headings which were assigned when it was acquired provide
the most appropriate access now. If your copy was catalogued pre S.B.
(Sandy Berman, we already miss you!), the access points may be more
offensive than the book!
Now, returning to *My Heart is on the Ground*:
I think it is interesting that there has been a flow of dialogue regarding
the Kozol book (well deserved!), while the dialogue over Rinaldi's book
fizzled. hmm... I think the Rinaldi book bares many serious
dilemmas, with which some of us might prefer not to face:
* about the extent to which we rely on *our* professional literature
reviews,
often without even looking to the subject field literature reviews.
* relatedly, about how *our* professional publications farm out and manage
reviewing
* about buying into the "well known author", "successful
series" and "major
publisher" thing -- along the lines of "well, it will be a popular
series
from an
influential publisher, so we have to have it."
* about the tricky genre of historical fiction, especially "targeted"
to
children
and young adults to support learnin'
I'd like to see us pick up the Rinaldi/My Heart thread again.
thom stuart
St. Cloud, MN
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 10:31:47 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: policeman fingerplays
One could have a very interesting time writing more verses about the specific
duties of law enforcement officers ie "I'd arrest a lot of
malefactors...", "I'd
save folks from scary stalkers..." etc.
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romoeo, MI.
Ann Moore wrote:
> #2
> If I were a policeman, policeman, policeman,
> If I were a policeman, this is what I'd do.
> I'd drive in a police car, police car, police car,
> I'd drive in a police car, that is what I'd do.
> additional verses--blow my whistle; stop the traffic; wave to children;
etc.
> Can be sung to "Did You Ever See a Lassie"
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 11:11:08 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: Conservativelib List
Calls to mind that grand old rhyme beloved for eons by young paranoids ,
"Nobody likes me, every body hates
me, I'm going to go eat worms..."
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
David Burt wrote:
> There's a brand new list for that species hunted to the brink of
extinction, the conservative librarian.
>
> Sign up at http://onelist.com/viewarchive.cgi?listname=Conservativelib
>
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> David Burt, President
> Filtering Facts
> www.filteringfacts.org
> phone/fax 503 635-7048
> 210 S State Street, Suite 7
> Lake Oswego, OR 97034
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 09:07:03 -0700
From: Laura Whaley <WHALEYL@santacruzpl.org>
Subject: RE: rocking chairs
We have two rocking chairs next to the woodstove -an adventure in itself :)-
which is near the circulation desk. From the amount of vigorous rocking
(banging into the wall and the occasional flip over) I wouldn't recommend
one in the kids room. The adults love ours, nothing better than to curl up
in a rocker near a fire, but the kids tend to use them as toys.
Laura
Boulder Creek Branch
Santa Cruz, CA
- -----Original Message-----
From: Jan Gilgore [mailto:jgilg@nioga.org]
Sent: Thursday, June 03, 1999 2:23 PM
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: rocking chairs
Hi
Does anyone have a rocking chair or gliding chair in the children's =
room. A family is very interested in donating one as a memorial. I am =
a little worried about pinched fingers . Has any one any pros or cons? =
Is there a certain kind that is best?
Thanks in advance
Jan Gilgore
Youngstown Free Library
240 Lockport Street
Youngstown NY 14174
jgilg@nioga.org
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 12:31:12 -0500
From: Clare Withers <withersc@clpgh.org>
Subject: postings
While I value greatly the ability to connect with my children's librarian
colleagues online, I have become increasingly frustrated by the absence of data
that puts the information into context. With the many issues facing us, too
often there is a posting that states a viewpoint, but no information that puts
the statement into a meaningful context. I'm trying to think of an example
that won't put anyone on the offensive--I just want to illustrate that we're
shortchanging ourselves by not carrying on full discussions. Here's just one
example. We're all looking at pros/cons of filters, internet use. What I
never know from a posting is: what is your patron base? Do you have kids on
their own or usually with some adult or older sibling? How many computers do
you have available to the public? (If the discussion gets to monitoring, then
I'd like to know whether the poster has 5 or 15 computers to oversee.) How
busy is your library? (Average daily children's circ stats or some agreed upon
tools to point toward usage patterns and staff availability. If you circ 1,000
books a day and have an average of a program a day and only 1 or 2 librarians,
that's important information to place experience/opinion within that context.)
For many of the issues--summer reading club, program ideas, internet
use--I think that our comments would be more valuable if we extended a quick
thumb-nail bio. Yes, it's more to read, but if we just offer opinions and
don't get even a glimpse of context, we just end up with 2 or more camps
flaming each other (at worst) or an idea that's hard to evaluate (at best).
It may sound Pollyanna-ish but maybe if we understood one anothers
positions, we could communicate more effectively.
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 13:19:24 -0400
From: Susan Steffens <steffens@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: Secret codes
Cathy,
I don't know the extent to which you need the codes, but I used a page from one
of the dinotopia books last summer and had the kids decipher the code to figure
out the message.
Susan Steffens
steffens@libcoop.net
Catherine Chesher wrote:
> Help!
> I'm doing a secret codes, ciphers program this summer and am having trouble
finding literature-based activities (stories, poems, etc). Any suggestions or
ideas would be greatly appreciated. I will compile and post suggestions. Thanks
>
> Cathy Chesher
> Adrian Public Library
> Adrian, Michigan
> cchesh@tc3net.com
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Date: Sat, 5 Jun 1999 13:51:30 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mazzafero <bmazzafe@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Secret codes
Catherine,
I do not have a list of books on hand as I am replying to this message but
I will forward one at a later date. However, I do have a CD-ROM program
entitle Top Secret Decoder which is accompanied by a "secret" comb for
deciphering messages. The program is cross-platform (Windows/Macintosh)
and was ordered through Crimson Multimedia Distribution Inc. at
www.crimsoninc.com.
Bonnie Mazzaferro
Childrens' Services
Cutchogue-New Suffolk Free Library
Cutchogue, New York
On Sun, 30 May 1999, Catherine Chesher wrote:
> Help!
> I'm doing a secret codes, ciphers program this summer and am having trouble
finding literature-based activities (stories, poems, etc). Any suggestions or
ideas would be greatly appreciated. I will compile and post suggestions. Thanks
>
> Cathy Chesher
> Adrian Public Library
> Adrian, Michigan
> cchesh@tc3net.com
>
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Date: Sat, 05 Jun 1999 13:52:28 -0700
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
Subject: Re: The Wringer
I'm afraid the elementary school librarians here all pulled it; I can't
understand that, myself, since the book is so patently anti-violence. I
think your teacher is out of touch with 1o year old boys.
- -- Mary Ann
"Brenda S. Evans" wrote:
> Dear Pubyakers,
> A retired education professor from a local college has challenged the
> notable book, Wringer, by Jerry Spinelli. She is concerned that there
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Date: Sun, 6 Jun 1999 10:32:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Jodi Cohen <cohenj2@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Re: rocking chairs
We have had a rocking chair in the children's area for several years.
We've never had an accident or pinch. In fact, it's a wonderful
reading retreat for many kids.
Jodi Cohen
Principal Librarian
Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library System
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 08:31:39 -0400
From: "Carolyn Noah" <cnoah@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org>
Subject: Re: test scores/library usage study
Rebecca,
On August 15, 1998, the Library Research Service in Colorado
released a study by Keith Curry Lance called "Library Media
Specialists and Technology Linked to Higher CSAP Test Scores".
It found that students with strong library media centers scored 5 -
10 points on standardized tests.
Though the study is Colorado based, it may be of value to you.
Find the Library Research Service at http://www.lrs.org/.
The study is available as a "Fast Facts" report in .pdf format.
Carolyn Noah
> Does anyone know of a study, dissertation, or report that shows a
> correlation between children's test scores or grades and library usage?
> Please include full citation.
>
> TIA!
>
> **************************************************
> Rebecca Higgerson
> Youth Services Librarian
> Sacramento Public Library
> 828 I Street
> Sacramento, CA 95814
> rhiggerson@sacramento.lib.ca.us
>
>
>
* * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
Carolyn Noah, Assistant Regional Administrator and Consultant
Central Massachusetts Regional Library System
CMRLS, 8 Flagg Road, Shrewsbury, MA 01545
tel: 508 757-4110 fax: 508 757-4370
e-mail: cnoah@cwmarsmail.cwmars.org
http://www.cmrls.org
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 09:17:48 -0400 (EDT)
From: Mazzafero <bmazzafe@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: young author program
We are offering a young author program this summer and are
having difficulty locating "blank books", size 8 1/2 x 11
I have found a company that makes 5" x 8" but would prefer
the larger size.
If you know where I can order these from, please advise.
Incidentally, thanks to a previous STUMPER question by
someone else, I was able to "reconnect" with a book I have
been searching for since I was quite young (about 35 years
ago).
Thanks in advance.
Bonnie Mazzaferro
Children's Services
Cutchogue-New Suffolk Library
bmazzafe@suffolk.lib.ny.us
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 10:34:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: theresa robinett <theresart@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: rocking chairs
For the past several years we have had a "regulation" maple rocker in
the Children's Room that was donated by one of our families. To date
there have been no mishaps with any body parts or even close calls. It
is very popular, so much so that we have had to repair it twice, and
gets moved all over the room. One of my co-workers uses it for effect
when she does storytime.
Enjoy!
Theresa Robinett
Children's Librarian
Glendale Public Library
Glendale, CA
- --- Jan Gilgore <jgilg@nioga.org> wrote:
> Hi
> Does anyone have a rocking chair or gliding chair in
> the children's =
> room.
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Date: Mon, 7 Jun 1999 12:40:42 -0700 (PDT)
From: Gayle Richardson <grichard@spl.org>
Subject: Re: rocking chairs
My branch library (well, lots of our branches had them) had one to go
along with its intergenerational "Rock and Read" Program. (Retirement-
aged readers did NOT take children up onto rocker along with them...)
Our biggest problem was broken spindles with sharp edges, on the
back of the Windsor style rocker--don't recall a single case of pinched
fingers ever; kids of any age--did not seem to be hugelyinterested in
sitting in it or rocking. They were more likely to set one of our great big
stuffed bears in it.(Though I guess they did fool around on the rocker
enough to break the spindles several times!) We ended up retiring it.
Hope this helps. Gayle Richardson
On Thu, 3 Jun 1999, Jan Gilgore wrote:
> Hi
> Does anyone have a rocking chair or gliding chair in the children's =
> room. A family is very interested in donating one as a memorial. I am =
> a little worried about pinched fingers . Has any one any pros or cons? =
> Is there a certain kind that is best?
> Thanks in advance
> Jan Gilgore
> Youngstown Free Library
> 240 Lockport Street
> Youngstown NY 14174
> jgilg@nioga.org
>
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Date: Mon, 07 Jun 1999 18:26:20 -0500
From: Belinda Sakowski <sakowski@grayson.edu>
Subject: Card registration
Hi All,
My Director has requested I seek the opinions of the collective wisdom.
She would like to know your requirements for issuing cards for patrons
under 18 years of age. Do you require that a parent or other legal
guardian sign for the card or can any relative ie. grandparent do it? Do
they have to present ID such as a driver's license? Do you send the
applications home or must they fill out the application in person?
At the present time we only allow a parent or legal guardian to get a card
for a minor and we do not send the applications home. Please e-mail me
directly at sakowski@grayson.edu
TIA
Belinda Sakowski E-Mail: sakowski@grayson.edu
Sherman Public Library Phone: (903)892-7240
421 N. Travis Fax: (903) 892-7101
Sherman, Texas 75090
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