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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 22:04:38 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #795
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:03:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: RE: NRA INSIGHTS
On Tue, 24 Aug 1999, Capehart wrote:
> Soap box alert: While I support my fellow Americans' rights to make
> decisions for themselves, I do think guns in general are a bad idea. Not to
> draw fire (pun intended) but when our forefathers wrote that little clause
> into our constitution, it was to ensure that we could protect ourselves
from
> outside forces. Now it is being twisted to justify our being gutted from
> within.
Just a note, but if you read the Federalist papers and do a little
backround reading, (say on the level of an AP History class :-) you'll
find out that our founders provided the second ammendment to ensure we
could protect ourselves from *inside* forces: i.e. a tyrannical
government. The idea being, of course, to balance the armed might of the
government with the armed might of the citizen.
Now, they may have been quite wrong - I'm not a big fan of
revolutionaries, myself - but that's what was originally intended.
Kirsten Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 21:32:57 +0000
From: rdhall@mail.cinetwork.com
Subject: Harry Potter Book Talk
I would like to have a book discussion group and have never done one before
and need your suggestions. Do we read the first chapter (s) together,
discuss them and then finish the book at home? Or do we give the books to
kids, have them read them at home and then meet to discuss it? I am
wanting to start a group and thought Harry Potter would be a good
beginning. Do you have problems getting the kids to return for the next
program? Any suggestions on follow up type of activities to this book?
Right now, I am thinking about having a magician come teach kids some magic
tricks. Also, do you limit the number of students? Any words of wisdom
would be greatly appreciated.
Anne Hall
Anne & Roger Hall
Berea, Kentucky
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Date: Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:57:23 -0500
From: Andrew Finkbeiner <ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us>
Subject: RE: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
I'm going to line up with Chuck on this one. I remember vividly the
newspaper account of the eyewitness at Columbine that said that, after
pointing his shotgun at pointblank range in Isaiah Shoels' face and pulling
the trigger, the shooter said, "Cool."
Why? Because the shooter had fed and fed and fed and fed violence into
himself, constantly pulling the trigger of his own customized splatter game
until he was quite practiced, quite ready to kill, and curious.
I am not at all in favor of government censorship. I am all in favor of
people saying, "Enough!"
Since Dana invokes the Bible by citing Cain and Abel, I would direct your
attention to another relevant passage in 2 Timothy, chapter 3 (verses 1
through 4): "But understand this, that in the last days there will come
times of stress. For men will be lovers of self, lovers of money, proud,
arrogant, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,
inhuman, implacable, slanderers, profligates, fierce haters of good,
treacherous, reckless, swollen with conceit, lovers of pleasure rather than
lovers of God..." Clearly as things have gotten bad, they will get worse.
I plan to uphold life and nurture children as I do my job of acquiring and
providing them relevant information.
These are my own convictions, and not an expression of my library's
policies, though they are not inconsistent.
Andrew Finkbeiner
Rockford (IL) Public Library
andrew@rockford.lib.il.us
Visit our website at http://www.rpl.rockford.org
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 9:23:06 -0400
From: YA assistant <JDICKEY@ESCHER.dnet.cuyahoga.lib.oh.us>
Subject: RE: censorship
I agree with Dana! I think a lot of the most influential violence
is what happens close to home: how mom and dad treat each other and
how they treat their kids. Does anyone know of a study that looks
for a correlation between domestic abuse and future violent
behavior?
There is also a warning for kids and how they treat each other. The
Columbine shooters were supposedly outcasts. Now schools at least
are talking about peer abuse, cliques, *talkin' trash*, etc.
Finally, I always liked Dr. T. Barry Brazelton's three rules for
parenthood: 1. Example. 2. Example. 3. Example. Which apply to
librarians, too, don't they?
Janet
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<jdickey@cuyahoga.lib.oh.us>
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 21:45:58 -0400
From: Lynda Gamble <lyndage@lori.state.ri.us>
Subject: choking hazardous books?
I ordered several board books about trucks. Either I missed the fact that
the books actucally had wheels on them or it wasn't in
the reviews. Our catlaoguer noticed the warning on the books stating they
are not for children under three years old. Has
anyone else had experience with these type of books? Should we put them in
our board book collection? Are we responsible if
a wheel comes off and some one puts it in their mouth? Help!
South Kingstown Public Library, Peace Dale Library
http://204.17.98.73/SkiLib/
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:10:21 -0400
From: "Robin Benoit" <rbenoit@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: RE: library card stickers
I got stickers from the Jan Way corporation (800-877-5242).. They have a
large selection of standard artwork to choose from, and will also include
your library's name. You can get a wide variety of colors for both the
sticker and the ink, and when I need more, I just call them up and they have
saved the original and I can get them really fast.
Robin Benoit
Fairport Public Library
1 Village Landing
Fairport, New York 14450
716-223-9091
rbenoit@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us
- -----Original Message-----
From: owner-pubyac@nysernet.org [mailto:owner-pubyac@nysernet.org] On Behalf
Of Cheryl Marcotte
Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 3:48 PM
To: PUBYAC@nysernet.org
Subject: library card stickers
Hello! I was wondering if anyone out there knows where I can obtain some "I
got my library card today" or similar stickers. I would like to give these
to children when they sign up for cards. Please email to my personal
address. Thank You!!! :)
fuschia27@hotmail.com
Cheryl Marcotte
Youth Services Librarian
Dewitt Public Library
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 10:09:26 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
Cathy - if all I did was provide information I wouldn't find my job nearly as
rewarding as I do now. I labor under the impression that Public Librarians
exist to serve the public, and I believe my public hopes for a little more from
me than solely performing the informational function. Sometimes opening a can
of worms is a better choice than your other options, though it without a doubt
tends to liven things up...
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
Cathy Ormsby wrote:
> Beautifully said, Carol, I couldn't agree more. Once we try to get into the
> business of "protecting children, nurturing them, providing safe
places,
> teaching them how to grow, et." we open a can of worms, and eventually
fail
> at our unique mission of providing information, as you stated so well.
>
> Cathy Ormsby
> cormsby@ci.sat.tx.us
>
> > ----------
> > From: edwarc@mx.pon.net[SMTP:edwarc@mx.pon.net]
> > Sent: Monday, August 23, 1999 7:55 PM
> > To: pubyac@nysernet.org
> > Subject: Re: Free Expression Network: An Appeal to Reason
> >
> > Well, I've usually disagreed with you on the protective stance and
kept my
> > mouth shut about it, I think this time I have to interject something.
> > Libraries are not in the business of protecting children, nurturing
them,
> > providing safe places, teaching them how to grow, etc. We may hope
that
> > some of this occurs as the result of our activities, but it is NOT our
> > business.
> >
> <snip>
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:13:05 -0400
From: Wendy Davy <wdavy@cromaine.org>
Subject: Cinderella versions
Dear Barb,
There are several good web sites with fairy tale info. This one has a
good list of Cinderella stories!
http://www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~dkbrown/cinderella.html
Hope this helps. :-)
Wendy Davy
Youth Services Assistant
Cromaine District Library
Hartland, MI
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 13:52:50 MST7MDT
From: "Bridgett Johnson" <BRIDGETT@lewis-carnegie-library.org>
Subject: Flannelboard thankyou
Thank you to all who responded to my request for flannelboard resource books and
favorite titles. I have passed them on to the teacher who is absolutely
thrilled.
I apolgoize for not putting a subject heading on the post. It was the second one
I
did and I missed the subject. Sorry.
Bridgett Johnson,Youth Services Librarian
Lewistown Public Library, 701 W. Main, Lewistown, Montana 59457
(406) 538 - 8559 bridgett@lewis-carnegie-library.org
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 16:26:17 -0400
From: Judy Keesan <jkeesan@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us>
Subject: three billy goats gruff puppets
I'm looking for the three billy goat puppets for an upcoming puppet show.
I've looked in several catalogs to no avail. Can anyone suggest a good
source to find these? please respond directly to me:
jkeesan@mcls.rochester.ny.us
TIA,
Judy Keesan
Children's librarian
Penfield Public Library
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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 15:46:57 -0500
From: Jennifer McQuilkin <hzz006@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: weeding Fairy tales?
Fellow Pubyacers--
Between SRP and school starting I am weeding our Juvenile (4-8 gr.)
nonfiction. I am a ruthless weeder, but when it comes to folktales,
fairytales etc. I am a wimp. We are a small one site location and don't
have space for the collection we have. Any tips, guidelines, suggestions?
Let me add that for the past year we have done displays, tie ins with
movies, bookmarks to daycares,
teachers and the local storytelling guild. We even put a fairy tale
castle up hoping to draw kids attention. These puppies are not moving--but
as a storyteller each one is a gem to me. Any ideas for moving them either
circulating them or weeding ? I am using children's catalog.
Jennifer
Jennifer McQuilkin Children's Librarian, Joplin Public Library
300 S. Main St. Email hzz006@mail.connect.more.net
Joplin, MO 64801-2384 (417)623-7953 phone, (417)624-5217 fax
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