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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 18:41:45 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #830
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 08:32:54 -0700 (MST)
From: Marijo Kist <mkist@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us>
Subject: Re: uncirculating Harry
Well, we have holds on all three titles, but more were on Sorcerer's Stone
than the others. I have a sneaky theory that people read the first one(s)
and loved it and and they are buying them rather than use the library
copies. I hear kids talking about Harry a lot. My most frequent actual
requests have come, not from kids or even parents, but grandparents who
want to give as a gift, and want to read it first. I have a suspicion
that that is who the bulk of the holds are for.
Marijo Kist mkist@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us
Acacia Branch Library
(602) 262-6224
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:18:50 -0400
From: Su Epstein <SuE@gfacademy.org>
Subject: RE: Children, porn, and the First Amendment
I thought I'd jump in here... as a former Criminologist turned librarian
(I know it's odd.) An interesting element to this is that legally,
children are NOT granted the rights of the Constitution, it only applies
to adults. Children have a different legal status, and different rules
(laws) that effect them. So, legally, they definately do NOT have first
amendment rights, but.....
Su
Su Epstein
Director of Library Services
Greens Farms Academy
Greens Farms, CT
- -----Original Message-----
James Asbury said:
> Therefore, the question becomes:
> Do children have a First Amendment right to pornography?
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:49:42 PDT
From: "linda allen" <lindaallen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Bizarre stuff to make in your kitchen
A reference librarian in our library system discovered this great websit
with directions for making crystal gardens, cartesian divers, volcanoes,
etc. The website is http://freeweb.pdq.net/headstrong
Linda Allen, Sno-Isle Regional Library System
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 07:34:34 EDT
From: Rsponaas@aol.com
Subject: Materials reserve software
Help!
Our library (serving a population of about 370,000) has decided to make our
story kits available to the public. So far, they have circulated only to
daycares, preschools, and home school families. They have been successful,
and one reason for their success is that they can be reserved for a
particular advance date, so that teachers can reserve them for the week they
need them.
Our library uses DRA software, but we don't have the rights to the
"booking"
module. All our computer reserves are on a first come, first serve basis.
We have been using index cards to keep track of the kit reserves. This has
worked for the limited circulation currently allowed, but will be impossibly
clumsy when they become available to the general public.
DRA has told us that it will cost an additional $32,000 per year to add their
booking module. This is out of the question for a collection of 60 kits,
which
will probably never grow beyond 100. All the other booking and reservation
software I have found is tied in with large software packages - appointments
for medical clinics is tied to large medical business/database packages,
booking software is a part of airline and resort packages, etc. I have also
looked at some desktop calendar software, but what I have seen is set up for
an individual user. In other words, it assumes that one person (one kit) can
only be one place at one time. That's fine, but it would be as if 60 people
(not one) were all trying to keep their appointments using one small
appointment book with entry space for only one person.
Surely there must be something out there that we can use. It does not need
to be (and we're not dumb enough to even hope it would be) tied into the DRA
system. It would be run on a Window '97-loaded PC with oodles of memory,
very fast speed.
Please respond directly to me if you know of any such software, or if you
have any other ideas regarding this problem. And thanks in advance!
Send responses to : RSponaas@aol.com
Susan Sponaas, Children's Coordinator, Greenville County (SC) Library
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 12:45:39 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter
Just wanted to point out that the Harry Potter series now has the top
three spots on the New York Times Best Seller List as well as the #1 spot
on the Paperback list. Acording to "Time" there are some publishers
who
are annoyed that a "children's book" is on the list, but at this point
I
think it's more than children buying it. Heck, the third book is longer
than "Hanibal"
David erS
David Serchay
a013213t@bc.seflin.org
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 19:25:35 -0500
From: Dana Estes <de2345@tds.net>
Subject: Re: food for thought:violence in the media
But the point is that we are not perfect. Whether or not looking at dodgy
sites on the internet, seeing X-rated films, reading skin magazines, etc.is
sinful is in the eye of the beholder. I am also a Christian and have a
deep love for God. But I am not perfect nor should I pretend to be. We
have all sinned. We must strive to be the best person we can be in the
world today. And if seeing an x-rated film, internet site, or magazine
makes people sinners there are a whole lot of sinners out there. Human
Curiosity sometimes causes people to view this material not a sick,
perverted mind. And yes,I have told little white lies. As I have said, I
am not perfect.
Dana Estes
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 11:28:03 -0500
From: "Susan" <susan@grok.calcasieu.lib.la.us>
Subject: Re: teen mystery night
Our Book Club wrote and played the parts in our Mystery Night At the
Library.
The story had tons of plays on words. The character's names were
indicative of their personalities. The story went like this:
A rich woman, who is really losing her business, gave a lot of money to the
library to build a new wing. The story begins with the dedication of said
wing. Teens are invited to the dedication and required to dress up.
Champaign glasses of sparkling cider and fancy pastries were used on well
decorated tables for the dedication. At the dedication a jewelry theft
occurs. Present with the main benefactress are her husband, daughter,
son-in-law, assistant, a body guard, and a reporter (in the audience who is
also a former employee with a grudge). Everyone had a clue that told why
they might need the money but they also had a clue that said they why they
didn't ... all except one. At the conclusion the police took the accused
person off to jail and reported that the person was either released due to
insufficient evidence or was brought before the judge and pronounced
guilty.
Students were given the names of characters in YA novels. Students were
asked to locate the book that the character was from. Inside the book was
an envelope that contained differing clues to each character. Students
then shared their clues between each table group. The table that
discovered the true criminal first won. The true criminal was the
benefactress her self.
Hope this helps.
Susan Gerhart
Young Adult Coordinator
Calcasieu Parish Public Library
Lake Charles, LA
susan@grok.calcasieu.lib.la.us
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 12:09:16 -0700
From: Pam Carlson <ocploch@pacbell.net>
Subject: Public and School Libraries
As part of a task force on setting standards for school libraries from
elementary through high school, I'm looking for successful collaborative
ideas between school and public libraries. If you have some tried and
true tips, please reply directly to me.
Thanks.
Pam Carlson pamcarlson@hotmail.com
Orange County Public Library
Orangewood Children's Home Branch
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 10:42:52 MDT
From: "sharon morris" <sharmor@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter
I think this is happening more than we know. I asked my neice and nephew
about Harry Potter, and they had never heard of him. These kids who are
really in the know, so it surprised me. They live in a very conservative
area so public schools and libraries are avoiding any books with witches,
magic, etc. I think they don't even have the Captain Underpants books. Too
bad, because those are about the only books my nephew would really pick up
on his own.
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 15:28:06 -0400
From: Lorie <odonnell@borg.com>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter
Wow,
This is a tough one. It depends on how old the other daughter is, and how
strong a bad example your own daughter is receiving from this. Isn't this
what we've been arguing about all along? No one has the right to decide for
other people's children what is right and what is wrong. If a child came
into the library alone, I would give them the books they wanted. However, if
same child came into the library with a parent, and said parent forbade a
certain book or books, I certainly would not argue with the parent over what
is right for the child to read!
Just a judgement call, I guess, and we all have to use our own judgement.
Lorie
> On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Simpson wrote:
>
> > My daughter's best friend got Harry Potter #1 for her birthday and
loved
> > it. Her mom, who is super-religious Catholic and censors EVERYTHING,
> > banned her from reading any others. As I speak, the girl is upstairs
in
> > my daughter's bedroom finishing Harry Potter #2.
> > Does this make me a bad mother ? (Or merely a subversive?)
- --
***************
Lorie J. O'Donnell
odonnell@borg.com
"All that is comes from the mind; it is based on the mind,
it is fashioned by the mind. " from The Pali Canon
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 18:40:50 -0400
From: "Jan Gilgore" <jgilg@nioga.org>
Subject: Re: mother Daughter and boys
Hi
Great idea. How did you get it started? Was there a book that your group
has read that you felt really would make a god first book?
See you are a presider at NYLA. I won't be down much do to staff problems,
but hope to get in Thursday afternoon and Friday morning. I had your
session circled.
Take Care
Jan Gilgore
Youngstown Free Library
Youngstown NY 14174
jgilg@nioga.org
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 11:26:30 -0400
From: janebu@ccfls.org (Jane Blaguszewski)
Subject: YA room discussion archives
Never thinking I'd need reference materials on this subject, I have
deleted all the past discussions about what makes the best YA area in a
library. Well, joy of joys, I've now been asked to put together a
proposal for our library. Has anyone saved such postings. I am unable to
access the archives. I'd love to hear suggestions for reference
materials on the subject, or simply what's worked and not worked for
you. Please e-mail me off list at: <janebu@ccfls.org>
Thanks!
Jane Blaguszewski
Meadville Public Library
Meadville, PA
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 00:04:14 EDT
From: Powderpuffs@aol.com
Subject: school media or public librarianship
Hello,
I am interested in becoming a librarian but am not sure whether I would
like to be a school media specialist or public librarian. Would I be able to
get some insights from anyone on the listserv? Please send any info on what
steps I may need to take in making my decision. Thank you. Please reply
directly to me.
From: Powderpuffs@aol.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 12:25:06 -0400
From: Julie Pfeiffer <JPFEIFFER@mail.mpl.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: uncirculating Harry
>Pamela Stack wrote:
>I've been reading all the messages about the Harry Potter books >and
finally decided to purchase for our library. However it has >yet to go out!
Has anyone else had this happen?
Last week I might have been surprised; however, while our multiple copies are
circulating like crazy, I had a fifth grade class visit on Friday and I was all
ready with a booklist and booktalk of "If You Liked Harry Potter..."
and their response was "Who's Harry Potter?". The entire class
including the teachers had never heard of this series of books. Guess not
everyone is on the bandwagon. But I suppose that's what I'm here for, to inform
and connect!
Julie Pfeiffer
Youth Services Librarian
Middletown Public Library
Middletown, OH
jpfeiffer@mail.mpl.lib.oh.us
!
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!
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:19:23 -0700
From: Charlotte Gerstein <cgerstei@snap.lib.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Youth Internet Training
I haven't spent any time looking at it, but Lycos has a CyberSafari site
that might be fun.
http://www.cybersurfari.org/
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Charlotte Gerstein
YA Librarian
Benicia Public Library
150 East L Street
Benicia, CA 94510-3281
(707) 746-4345
(707) 747-8122 (fax)
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mschafer@tln.lib.mi.us wrote:
> Hello!
>
> For those of you who conduct Internet training classes for youth
> (3rd-6th grade), have you ever used a scavenger hunt type activity
> to teach kids how to browse, search, etc? We are moving from a
> lecture type class to a hands-on format (yeah!) and I'm looking for
> some fun activities to use with the kids. Any suggestions would be
> greatly appreciated!
>
> TIA
> **************************
> Mindy Schafer mschafer@tln.lib.mi.us
> Assistant Dept. Head
> Youth Services
> Novi Public Library
> Novi, Michigan
> *************************
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 18:33:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joy S. Wong" <jwong@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Ideas for a Harry Potter after-school program
I am plannning to have a Harry Potter after-school program for elementary
school- age kids and I'm looking for ideas, Please e-mail me direct--
jwong@tln.lib.mi.us Thank you
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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 1999 21:35:38 -0500
From: James Asbury <jamesasbury@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Children, porn, and the First Amendment
"Minkel, Walter (Cahners -NYC)" wrote:
> James Asbury said:
>
> > Therefore, the question becomes:
>
> > Do children have a First Amendment right to pornography?
>
> I notice that he asks the question but doesn't attempt to answer it.
Actually, I did. Sorry. Perhaps I wasn't clear. I don't believe they do.
The threshold for obscenity for children is so low as to include almost
all pornography. I'm not saying that it is necessarily illegal for them
to look at it. That depends on local and state laws and is a different
issue. I'm saying that they do not have a constitutional right to it. If
they did, then various state laws against pornography for children would
be unconstitutional.
I believe that can be extended to the library. If I ban, say, Where the
Wild Things Are due to its scary content, pulling it from the shelves
and keeping it from children, I am violating their First Amendment
rights. If, however, my library carries Hustler and I set a policy that
children may not check it out or even view it, then I am not. Likewise,
if I block a site that contains graphic pornographic images (and if you
don't know what that is I'll be happy to attach a couple to an e-mail
and send them to you privately) to keep that from children, then I am
not violating their First Amendment rights.
Does that make my position a bit more clear?
- --
James "Berry" Asbury
jamesasbury@yahoo.com
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:52:38 -0400
From: "Hudson, Sarah" <shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us>
Subject: RE: Teen cafe
Hi,
I just came back from North Carolina Library Association. The Forsyth
County
Library hosted a reception at its main branch in Winston Salem.
They used black and silver to decorate the library-sort of a millenium
theme.
They hung old CD Roms on the bannisters, and used white "Christmas
Tree"
lights to decorate silk plants. I believe they used black table cloths
(paper), and small white votive candles in clear glass holders.
They also used silver package trims to decorate around the votives.
I really liked that theme. It looked very nice.
I thought that would look very nice for a YA program.
Sarah
Sarah Hudson
Information Specialist
Independence Regional Library
Public Library of Charlotte and Mecklenburg County
shudson@plcmc.lib.nc.us
These opinions are my own and do not reflect those of the library
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 09:48:09 -0600
From: Carolyn Groves Winkler <cgroves@will.state.wy.us>
Subject: YA art projects
We've had success with doing a "pre holiday" craft in early December -
we
billed it as "Retro Crafts" and had them make Jute (i.e. hemp) jewelry
(I
bought a kit and blew up the instructions) and picture frames - the jute
jewelry took a lot of time (over 1 hour), and some kids had trouble with
the knots...but the results were really cool!
The picture frames were from a book called "Crafts for Girls" by Sally
Seamans - 1995. They took just about an hour and were a big smash. I had
the teens bring in magazines to cut up to add pictures and phrases to their
frames. Frames were donated by a local framing shop (thier "discards"
and
extra pieces of mat board - I cut them at our local art association...) I
can fax the instructions to you if you'd like!
On a final note...we had snacks at the craft (and have them at almost all
of our YA functions!) - it does seem to help attendance! I think at the
crafts we had Jolly Ranchers and sodas...
Carolyn Groves Winkler, MLS
Teton County Library
Jackson, WY
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 19:31:33 GMT
From: "Rebecca Smith" <rsps@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Help me find books for this child.
Always remember that just because a child CAN read on a 12th grade or higher
level doesn't mean they HAVE to. At that age I was reading Anne Macaffrey
and The betsy Tacy Books and loving all of them.
Just imagine if as adults we always had to read at our grade level. I'd get
pretty sick of reading other peoples master's thesis and dissertations! A
good book is a good book if the story is interesting, and it's not presented
in such a way as to make the child feel like she's being talked down to.
*********
Rebecca S. Smith, MLS
San Diego Public Library
Branch Libraries Division
rsps@hotmail.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 07:37:10 -0700 (PDT)
From: Linda Nelson <l_nelson45@yahoo.com>
Subject: Mother Goose query--Who is Dr. Foster?
My 16 yr. old son remembers being terrified by the
idea that "Hot Cross Buns" and "Doctor Foster" were
staring at him through his bedroom window. I remember
...One a penny, two a penny, hot cross buns" and it
certainly wasn't malevolent. But does anyone know who
this nasty guy Doctor Foster is? He obviously left an
impression.
Thanks,
Linda and John Nelson
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 17:29:31 -0500
From: Phyllis Davis <pdavis@htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Board books and baby games in Spanish
Does anyone have a good source for board books in Spanish? I have been
hunting around and most of my favorites are now out of print! We are
starting a Spanish language Lapsit and are looking for appropriate board
books and tapes with baby games and rhymes. I have been able to find lots
of picture books, but only one very short list of board books that are in
print.
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