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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 20:48:10 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #832
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:41:06 -0500
From: P_MARIE@KCPL.LIB.MO.US
Subject: RE: pubyac V1 #829
I was reading James' definitions of the various phrases connected with
children's rights, pornography, etc. One of my staff walked by and
wondered "what in the world was I reading?". My...My...just goes to
show.mm
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:42:24 -0400
From: Ginger Armstrong <armstrongg@co.chesterfield.va.us>
Subject: Caldecott Contenders
Hi everyone!
Well, it's that time of year again. Our library is searching for titles
to supply our mock Caldecott election kits. Due to its popularity, our
mock Caldecott program has become an annual event. We provide kits for
elementary schools to check out that contain our Caldecott contender
titles, a master voting sheet, and information about how to conduct a
program with our kit. The students vote for their top contenders and
see how their choice matches up with the real thing. So put on your
thinking caps, and if you have any suggestions for us of Caldecott
contenders for the year, just let me know. I will post a list of all
suggestions that I receive to the list. To start people thinking, some
of my favorite picture books of this year so far are:
Black Cat by Christopher Myers
Come On, Rain by Karen Hesse with illustrations by Jon J. Muth
David Goes to School by David Shannon
Weslandia by Paul Fleischman with illustrations by Kevin Hawkes
and maybe Sector 7 by David Wiesner
Thanks for any suggestions!
Ginger Armstrong
Chesterfield County Public Library
P.O. Box 297
Chesterfield, VA 23832
e-mail: armstrongg@co.chesterfield.va.us
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:48:59 -0500
From: Andrew Finkbeiner <ANDREW@rockford.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: Children, Porn and the First Amendment (Long)
Finally, we're getting down to brass tacks. I was beginning to wonder if
anyone was going to answer Kirsten's excellent, pointed questions that she
submitted to the list September 7 about what constitutes harm. Especially
the last question that went something like this:
"Let's imagine that we - that is a sizeable majority of most Americans -
reached a consensus on what ... actually caused measurable damage - either
mental or emotional. What should we - as a society - do about it?"
That got me thinking about the "as a society" part. Because that's the
problem. We all have values--some we share, some we don't. But somehow we
do live in something called a "society." And "society" does
seem to be able
to create standards, such as "don't litter," or, perhaps more to the
point,
"we don't do that in public" (whatever "that" may be to
you). The main
point is, our society works because we have a tremendous amount of freedom,
as long as we don't cause anyone harm. And really, that idea of harm has,
when "good" manners are used, come to mean that we should cause no
"offense." Which, as we all know, is what gets libraries into hot
water all
the time, since that "offense" threshold is different for everybody.
But
are there things that are so offensive to so many that, as a society, we
determine not to go that way?
When James mentioned the anime sites, I did some searching and found a site
called "hentai FREE," a site mounting a quiet protest against
"perverted"
anime. The address of the mission page is
http://silvermillenium.simplenet.com/hFREE/mission . It presents an
argument that "hentai," or depictions of perverted acts, is harmful to
children. It does not do a very good job defining "perverted," but it
does
give titles as examples for those who want to scope it out. In the interest
of this discussion, I would encourage you to read this mission statement.
I'm referring to this site here as an example of what society would or would
not allow, and the reasons for it. Included in the group of people related
to the "hentai FREE" site are those who use porn but do not think it
is
appropriate for children. Hmmm. That seems to indicate to me that there is
a line to be drawn somewhere for some reason. That we can and should place
restrictions on children at the social level--not just at the parental
level.
Let me contribute another piece to the puzzle.
In order to establish social norms so that we can live and work together
freely, our society has, along with an unwritten social code called culture,
created a written code called "law." James, thank you for showing the
relevant section of your state's legal code. Here at Rockford Public
Library, we apply the state and city ordinace pertaining to obscenity when
"policing" the Internet. The definition of obscenity reads much the
same as
the one you posted.
In another section of the Illinois statutes is a section called "Harmful
Material." Kirsten, please note right off the bat that the section heading
implies that certain material is harmful. My question would be the same as
yours, probably, and it is one that I've been wrestling with since beginning
Internet service here--is there empirical evidence of harm caused by
children viewing material of a sexual nature? There's scads of evidence
about material of a violent nature--that acts are imitated, and harm can be
and has been done. Yet we continue to pump violence through the media into
the lives of our children with no statute that I'm aware of fobidding it.
There has been, since the mid-eighties, a growing number of studies that
correlate the use of porn with violent acts perpetrated against women. I do
not know of any studies involving children.
So what does the Illinois statute say? "Material is harmful if, to the
average person, applying contemporary standards, its predominant appeal,
taken as a whole, is to the pruient interest, that is a shameful or morbid
interest in nudity, sex, or excretion, which goes substantially beyond
customary limits of candor in description or representation of such matters,
and is material the redeeming social importance of which is substantially
less than its prurient appeal" (720 ILCS 5/11-21 b.1).
Consider, then, what follows:
"Nothing in this section shall prohibit any public library or any library
operated by an accredited institution of higher education from circulating
harmful material to any person under 18 years of age, provided such
circulation is in aid of a legitimate scientific or educational purpose, and
it shall be an affirmative defense in any prosecution for a violation of
this section that the act charged was committed in aid of legitimate
scientific or educational purposes" (720 ILCS 5/11-22 e.1)
And further,
"Nothing in this section shall prohibit any parent from distributing to his
child any harmful material."
So librarians can provide children access to harmful material if it's used
for educational purposes. And parents can provide children access to
harmful material regardless of the reason.
But can you imagine a parent bringing a child to the Internet computer in
the children's room at your library to "educate" them about the
existence of
porn? Or to use porn to teach about sex? Would this be a defensible use of
library resources? Do you need to see it to know that it exists?
I think a sizeable majority of Americans would say, "It's not
appropriate,"
even if it is legal, and therefore, not to be allowed. I think most people
would see it as "wrong idea, wrong place, wrong time."
Andrew Finkbeiner
Rockford (IL) Public Library
andrew@rockford.lib.il.us
Visit our website at http://www.rpl.rockford.org
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:35:48 -0400
From: Beverly Little <blittle@merrimack.lib.nh.us>
Subject: Re: Early Literacy Intervention
Hi,
I currently do little outreach. A couple times a year the local childcare
providers contact us to have their children come in for a story and tour. I am
hoping to do much more in the future. Could you pass on the information you get
to me or to the list in general?
Beverly Little
Head of Youth Services
Merrimack Public Library, NH
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 13:28:26 -0700
From: "Charlette Hines Poteat" <charlettehines@eudoramail.com>
Subject: Re: Bizarre stuff to make in your kitchen
Super website!!! I would also like to recommend a
wonderful book (especially for Halloween)that all
my teachers and kids just love....i could use multiple
copies....Monroe, Lucy.(1992)Creepy Cuisine: Revolting
Recipes That Look Disgusting but Taste Divine.New York:
Random House. ..."a freaky Fannie Farmer" says the
Bulletin of the Center for Children's Books.
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>with directions for making crystal gardens, cartesian divers, volcanoes,
>etc. The website is http://freeweb.pdq.net/headstrong
>Linda Allen, Sno-Isle Regional Library System
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:03:52 -0600 (MDT)
From: Virginia Carlson <vcarlson@ppld.org>
Subject: Written policy for lib. services to teachers?
Does anyone have a written policy to describe their services to teachers?
1. Do you have extended loan periods for teachers?
2. How many copies of one title may a teacher check out?
3. May teachers take all the books available on one subject?
4. How many books do staff look for at one time?
5. What is the turn-around time for gathering materials?
6. What have you done to foster a good relationship with schools
in a large city environment (500,000)?
If you will supply answers to any of these questions, please send your
information to vcarlson@mail.ppld.org and I will summarize for the
whole list. TIA
Virginia Carlson
Children's Services Supervisor
Penrose Library
Pikes Peak Library District
(719)-531-6333 ext. 2402
P.O. Box 1579
Colorado Springs, CO. 80901
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 17:27:51 -0700
From: Kami Krenz <kkrenz@lib.az.us>
Subject: Potter circulation
We only have one title, the first, so far. The funny thing is, that a lot
of adults are checking it out, more than the kids! We have a far greater
number of adults with visual and physical disabilities to qualify them for
our service than youth, but I'm just worried that as Harry is going on our
next youth bibliography from Arizona Talking Book Library, there will be no
copies left for the kids! If anyone has an "in" at the Library of
Congress
(National Library Service f/t Blind and Physically Handicapped), tell them
we really need some more titles!
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 16:58:02 -0700
From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter
Unfortunately, the kid is going to learn to be sneaky anyway. In this
situation, she has little choice. the pro-Potter mom is right not to censor
the girl in her (Mom's) own home. I also wouldn't advertise that.
Kirsten Edwards wrote:
> On Fri, 24 Sep 1999, Simpson wrote:
>
> > My daughter's best friend got Harry Potter #1 for her birthday and
loved
> > it. Her mom, who is super-religious Catholic and censors EVERYTHING,
> > banned her from reading any others. As I speak, the girl is upstairs
in
> > my daughter's bedroom finishing Harry Potter #2.
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 19:39:26 EDT
From: "laura bockwich" <laurabockwich@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter
Does anybody know when the fourth installment is due out?
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 18:33:43 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Joy S. Wong" <jwong@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Ideas for a Harry Potter after-school program
I am plannning to have a Harry Potter after-school program for elementary
school- age kids and I'm looking for ideas, Please e-mail me direct--
jwong@tln.lib.mi.us Thank you
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Date: Mon, 27 Sep 1999 20:49:42 PDT
From: "linda allen" <lindaallen@hotmail.com>
Subject: Bizarre stuff to make in your kitchen
A reference librarian in our library system discovered this great websit
with directions for making crystal gardens, cartesian divers, volcanoes,
etc. The website is http://freeweb.pdq.net/headstrong
Linda Allen, Sno-Isle Regional Library System
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 21:06:32 +400
From: "xena"<chrisben@bestweb.net>
Subject: Harry Potter
We have holds for all three Harry Potters; interestingly enough, half of the
reserve requests are made by adults. (We have also witnessed newfound adult
interest in the Chronicles of Narnia.
My son wants to be Harry Potter for Halloween (complete with Firebolt), but
he's afraid no one will know who he is...It appears many of his classmates are
more interested in the Pokemon books.
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:34:20 -0400
From: Molly L Chatt Crandall <chattcrandall@juno.com>
Subject: Thank you
I just wanted to thank everyone who responded to my request for ideas
about pajama storytimes and reptile crafts! Both programs went well,
thanks to all who helped! If anyone is interested in the responses,
email me at chattcrandall@juno.com. Once again, thank you!
Molly Chatt Crandall
Ontario Public Library
Ontario, NY
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 22:43:57 -0400
From: ahendon@dorsai.org
Subject: Re: Harry Potter
I had a little boy in the library today whose assignment required
him to read one fantasy book at third grade reading level, at least
25 pages long. I found him several and he dutifully looked at them
but he GRABBED Harry Potter (#2, just in, shiny new jacket) and
said 'I want to read THIS". His mother was making noises like, it's
too long, you'll never read it, etc. and I FORCEFULLY said - try it!
If you finish it, great, if you don't, just bring it back. And take one
of the shorter books for the assignment!
Alison
Brooklyn Public LIbrary
speaking only for myself
Alison Hendon
ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org
"Though my soul may set in darkness,
It will rise in perfect light,
I have loved the stars too fondly
To be fearful of the night...."
- Sarah Williams, "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil"
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:21:21 -0400
From: "Sylvia Leigh Lambert" <leighladidah@gurlmail.com>
Subject: Themes for storytimes
I'm a new Library Associate, hoping some of you will share with me some 'tried
and true' favorite combinations of stories, songs, videos, finger'plays' for
kiddos ranging from say a few who are 2 and 1/2 up to about four and 1/2. Most
of the kids are 3 and 4 yr olds in Head Start programs, visiting our inner city
library.
I am aware of _A to Zoo_ and must peruse it further. I also have access to _52
Programs for Preschoolers_ by Diane Briggs, but I'd really like to be influenced
by
'ya'll' as some of us say in the south.
Help me build my repertiore. Share some of your favorites (and your
kids' favorites--some 'crowd pleasers) with me please. Please respond
directly to me.
Thanks,
Leigh Lambert
leighladidah@gurlmail.com
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 23:35:48 EDT
From: Huec01@aol.com
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #830
In a message dated 09/28/1999 8:34:02 PM Central Daylight Time,
owner-pubyac@nysernet.org writes:
<< Always remember that just because a child CAN read on a 12th grade or
higher
level doesn't mean they HAVE to. At that age I was reading Anne Macaffrey
and The betsy Tacy Books and loving all of them.
Just imagine if as adults we always had to read at our grade level. I'd get
pretty sick of reading other peoples master's thesis and dissertations! A
good book is a good book if the story is interesting, and it's not presented
in such a way as to make the child feel like she's being talked down to.
>>
Absolutely. I was sick for a couple of weeks-not sick enough to be in the
hospital,but sick enough to have bedrest for a couple of weeks. I could not
concentrate on any of my favorite books nor on the book I had been reading
before I got sick (a Holocaust memoir). I discovered some of my old childhood
books in my closet-Beverly Cleary,Judy Blume,Frances Hodgson Burnett,Laura
Ingalls Wilder,etc. I really loved rereading them! A good story is a good
story,period. :-)
Jennifer
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 05:40:40 -0400
From: Steve and Kathy Kirchoefer <kirchoef@dclink.com>
Subject: Re: Puppets
LouAnne--
I recently purchased a cute little bookworm puppet from Folkmanis. Check
out their website at Folkmanis.com.
Kathy Kirchoefer
School Librarian
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 08:34:49 -0400
From: Su Epstein <SuE@gfacademy.org>
Subject: RE: Ideas for a Harry Potter after-school program
Note first, that I have not yet read the book, but....knowing he's in a
school for wizards and witchcraft - what about doing some "magical"
experiements - like basic chemistry - rock candy kinds of things that
can appear "magical" to the uniformed, but really have scientific
explanation. Just a thought
su
Su Epstein
Director of Library Services
Greens Farms Academy
Greens Farms, CT
- -----Original Message-----
From: Joy S. Wong [mailto:jwong@tln.lib.mi.us]
Sent: Monday, September 27, 1999 3:34 PM
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: Ideas for a Harry Potter after-school program
I am plannning to have a Harry Potter after-school program for
elementary
school- age kids and I'm looking for ideas, Please e-mail me direct--
jwong@tln.lib.mi.us Thank you
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 09:33:55 -0400
From: Catherine Quattlebaum <quattlec@mail.wilkes.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: super-religious anti-Potter mom
My daughter's best friend got Harry Potter #1 for her birthday and loved
it. Her mom, who is super-religious Catholic and censors
EVERYTHING,banned her from reading any others. As I speak, the girl is
upstairs in my daughter's bedroom finishing Harry Potter #2. Does this
make me a bad mother ? (Or merely a subversive?)
Well, since you asked...
If the tables were turned and her mother was helping your child sneak
around behind your back to do something, I imagine you'd be fuming. How
could you trust this woman with your daughter again, or even be civil to
her? After all, she just slapped you in the face and all but told you
that she doesn't respect or support you as a parent, right? And then,
never mind the bad blood between parents, EVERYBODY involved in this
little 'betrayal' learned that sometimes it's okay to sneak around, and
they learned it from an adult. Is that really any good?
Also, librarians are always telling everybody that what children read is
up to their parents and no one else. We can't subvert that b/c then we
don't have a professional leg to stand on.
If you gave this child that book against her mother's will, you're
helping her sneak around and lie, and it's TERRIBLE PR for librarians.
That's not the right way to show this mother the light, or to help
expand the mind of this child. And trust me, super-mom will find out
about this; after all, you and this child are now a couple of freedom
fighters for the same cause. There's no WAY that kid can sit on this
information forever, she'll absolutely have to rub her mother's face in
it eventually. Which all but guarantees that she'll never see your
daughter again, much less Harry Potter.
Just my two cents. I could actually say a lot more. The only thing I'd
say to the child, though, is "I'm sorry, sweetheart, but your mother
doesn't want you to read that book, and we both know that. Maybe she'll
change her mind sometime."
I'm sure you're a very good person. Your heart's in the right place.
Sorry I have to disagree with you...
catherine q.
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 10:52:38 -0700
From: Beth Coughlin <coughlin@noblenet.org>
Subject: Re: Pokemon???
I ordered one on Pokemon trading cards and one called the Pokemon
trainers survival guide. My 14 year old son helped me a little as he is
a fan and collector. Check with middle school boys or ask at a store
that sells video games if you are not sure. You may find reviews on
Amazon, too.
Beth Coughlin,
Swampscott Public Library, MA
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:00:07 -0400 (EDT)
From: Katja Ermann <kermann@rvcc.raritanval.edu>
Subject: Chapter Club
I know this has been covered before, but I can't find where I saved the
information, and as usual the archives are inaccessible. Can anyone who
has done an afterschool "chapter club" for elementary grades give me
advice and a list of books you've read? I'm going to be doing a six week
session of serializing a chapter book for grades 3-5 in November/December.
About how long does an average book take? What books have you found work
great for a mixed-gender group? Any pitfalls I should avoid?
I'm trying to wow them with a great book they haven't been overdosed on
for the first session -- I'm thinking of either the Pushcart War by
Merrill or From the Mixed-Up Files by Konigsburg but fear they may be too
long to finish in our time frame.
TIA
Katja
*******************************************
Katja Byrne, Children's Librarian
Somerset County Library, Hillsborough Branch (NJ)
kermann@rvcc.raritanval.edu
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:16:39 -0400
From: Ann Moore <SCP_MOORE@sals.edu>
Subject: Harry Potter
Regarding how well Harry Potter circulates--I work in 2 different branches
within the same system and have seen a big difference in interest and
popularity. At the upper-class, suburban branch, every Harry Potter book
has had numerous reserves, to the point where I finally purchased additional
copies. When I visited the elementary schools to promote the Summer Reading
Club, the 4th and 5th graders all spoke enthusiastically about Harry Potter,
having been introduced to him by their teachers and school librarians. The
issue of Time featuring Harry Potter was checked out immediately by a child.
Parents seem to be encouraging the Harry Potter phenomena in this area. On
the other hand, my second branch is considered "inner city." The only
reserves
we've had are from curious adults! Even the teachers at the nearby elementary
school seem clueless about Harry Potter. I would suspect that once a child
(or parent or teacher) is introduced to Harry Potter and becomes excited, the
news spreads by word of mouth to peers and ends up affecting a whole class,
grade, or school. Where there is no introduction, the opposite happens. I
have tried to push H.P. at this second branch but have gotten comments (from
teachers) like, "It's too long" or "It's too advanced for my
students." One
teacher wanted an author she was already familiar with (and ended up with
Roald Dahl). So depending what your clientele is like, I can definitely
picture H.P. not circulating without a great deal of effort on our part!
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:27:47 -0400
From: BAUMHOWER@TLC.LIB.OH.US
Subject: Pokemon Party
I am planning a Pokemon event for 6th-12th graders. I was wondering if
anyone has any ideas for this event. I wanted to stay away from the card
trading. Please respond to me--Baumhower@tlc.lib.oh.us Thank You!!
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 11:01:03 -0500
From: Rosemary Moran <rmoran@tulsalibrary.org>
Subject: Double Dog Press website
Does anyone have the web address for Double Dog Press? I'd saved it as a
bookmark, but when I tried to access it today it came up as something
completely different.
This is a place that produces mystery kits suitable for use with teens.
I'd like to check on what's available, but need the accurate address.
Thanks.
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 9:34:48 -0800
From: JENNIFER PAWLAK <LIJMP@library.ci.anchorage.ak.us>
Subject: New Summer Reading Program Ideas?
It's that time of year again to start planning next summer's reading program,
and a few new ideas have cropped up. We're hoping to see if anybody has any
experience with the following program formats:
1. Group or family reading charts--mom, dad, brother, sister, grandparents,
etc. all keep track of their summer reading on one chart. Or, adult summer
reading programs that are run concurrently with the children's summer reading
programs.
2. Cooperative "prizes"--I know this has been done, but would love
specifics.
We're thinking of setting reading goals for the entire Summer Reading Program,
and if matched, specific community/library items (ideas include: park bench,
adopt-an-animal, new computers/software, fixing the library's fountain) would
be purchased "in the name of" the 2000 Summer Reading Program.
3. Automated reading program registration, using MS Access or similar.
I would love to hear any experiences--positive, negative, ho-hum--with any of
the above situations.
TIA--
Jennifer Pawlak, Youth Services Librarian
Anchorage Municipal Libraries
lijmp@library.ci.anchorage.ak.us
Z.J. Loussac Library
3600 Denali Street
Anchorage AK 99503
(907) 343-2853
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:45:49 -0500
From: Judy Stewart <stewartj@clpgh.org>
Subject: RE: World Veggie Month programs
Marsha,
re the World Veggie Month ideas, I assume you have the book "Vegetables
Rock"
which is a cookbook for vegetarian teens. We just bought it for our library.
I love your idea. Why not have a recipe exchange and/or a taste-testing of
various recipes - let the kids bring a favorite to share, you could make a few
from the book. Maybe someone, a nutritionist, could speak.
Judy Stewart
Community Library of Allegheny Valley
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:51:38 -0500
From: Judy Stewart <stewartj@clpgh.org>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter
I have had some experience with this also. At our Mother-Daughter Book Club
one strong Christian family read the book but did not like it a lot due to it's
sorcery aspects. I (a pastor's wife and a Christian) am sensitive to that
position and with why they are uncomfortable. But I did point out in a general
way that many of the really great Christian authors used fantasy, spells, etc:
two primary examples are CS Lewis in The Lion, The Witch and the Wardrobe. And
Madeline L'Engle in A Wrinkle in Time. Both have spiritual overtones which are
wonderful. I don't know if this argument made any difference, but it might
help some of you if the subject comes up.
Judy Stewart
Community Library of Allegheny Valley
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:17:09 -0400 (EDT)
From: "<Lesley Knieriem>" <lknierie@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Pokemon???
There are a couple of Pokemon graphic novel out from (I think) Viz
Comics. THE ELECTRIC TALE OF PIKACHU is the first. I found them dull,
poorly drawn, and very unrepresentative of what is truly good about manga,
but I can't quarrel with their popularity.
Besides, I don't really get the whole Pokemon thing anyway....
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 12:21:02 -0700
From: Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
Subject: Duplicating book covers
Our YAAC group does a monthly newsletter called Open Shelf. It contains
book reviews by the teens and is distributed not only in our library but
also in all the city's junior and senior high media centers. We are looking
to do some revamping on the layout and look of Open Shelf, and I have a few
questions I hope someone out there can help me answer. We would like to
copy pictures of book covers to place next to the reviews. Does anyone know
if copyright restrictions prohibit us from doing this legally? Do any of
you already do this sort of thing in your book review newsletters? Thanks.
Diane Tuccillo
Senior Librarian/YA Coordinator
Mesa Public Library
64 E. First St.
Mesa, AZ 85201
480-644-2735
Diane_Tuccillo@ci.mesa.az.us
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 15:37:52 -0400 (EDT)
From: Dianne Cloutier <diannec@ocln.org>
Subject: Timed computer security
Dear Folks:
We are opening a new library with secured computers that
have one problem, in using a password to gain access to the internet.
Once it is open, there is no software to time out the patrons use
to say one hour. We are looking for a security utility system that
has the ability to remind the patron that one hour has passed or
that the machine will stop patron from further access without putting
the password again.
We had heard about Team Internet. Has anyone worked with that
if so how is it?
Thanks dianne cloutier
thayer public library
diannec@ocln.org
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 02:30:19 -0600
From: joslund@colosys.net
Subject: ? Bulk loans question
Hi,
My circulation department has asked me to find out if other
libraries are still offering bulk loans to teachers. We currently allow
teachers to check out 40 items at a time (but we now also allow
our regular patrons to have this many as well). However, teachers
with bulk loan privileges automatically get the books for 4 weeks
without having to renew after two weeks, and they don't have to pay
any fines if the books are late. They do have to be responsible for
lost or damaged books, of course.
Over time, we have seen a decrease in the number of teachers
using our bulk loan service, but an increase in home educators
wanting to sign up. We are evaluating our program, either with an
eye to discontinuation or to strengthening it by adding benefits.
Any comments or ideas?
Thanks,
Janet Oslund
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Janet L. Oslund
Youth Services Librarian
Montrose Library District
320 S. 2nd St.
Montrose, CO 81401
Voice: 970.249.9656
Fax: 970.240.1901
E: joslund@colosys.net
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 14:14:18 -0700 (PDT)
From: Nicolas Berry <nberry@spl.org>
Subject: Re: Children, porn, and the First Amendment
>
> Therefore, the question becomes:
>
> Do children have a First Amendment right to pornography?
>
Or, rather, do children have a right to the First Amendment? But even if
they do, in our rush to defend them, by aiding their access we are
breaking the law of providing access to pornography to minors. This
endangers our jobs.
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 20:07:23 EDT
From: Jilleebill@aol.com
Subject: books for hospitalized patrons
I'm working on putting together a "hospital kit" for children both in
the
hospital already
as well as for those who will be going in for surgery or illness. I'm looking
for suggested books and/or videos,pamphlets that will both teach the child
what to expect as well as show them that they are not alone. I also would
like to put together
(under separate cover) a kit for the parent. I'd like to do one for the
pre-schooler and one for the school-age child. Any help would be greatly
appreciated.
Along the same lines, I'd like to build up our library's collection on
chronically ill children, sibling issues and maybe find a website kids could
find e-mail "buddies" to write to who have the same illness or
condition.
Thanks for the help!
Jill
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 17:26:11 PDT
From: "children johnson city public library"
<jcplkids@hotmail.com>
Subject: large type YA books
Thanks to all of you who sent ideas about their teen volunteer program.
It's great to know this resources is here!
Now I have another question in which I need your expertise! I have the
opportunity to get on a standing order for large type young adult award
winning books. My dilema is whether teens will read large type books. I am
afraid they won't check these out, and I don't want to commit that much
money to books that won't be read. Have any of you had any positive or
negative experiences with teens about large type books? TIA!
Betty Cobb
Johnson City Public Library
Johnson City, TN
jcplkids@hotmail.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 01:13:48 EDT
From: Powderpuffs@aol.com
Subject: Re: Children, porn, and the First Amendment
Maybe I am just not understanding the difference between banning a book and
or setting restrictions on it. Actually, my question is, say there are a
couple of graphic how to sex books and or magazines such as hustler and
playboy. If the library carries them but restricts children from viewing or
checking them out, would that be considered the library is "not
violating"
their first amenment? And if the library pulls the book off the shelf
completely it is a violation? Maybe I am just a little slow but I don't see
the difference. Is it just because they discard it altogether that makes it
a violation, not allowing others to view them on account of the children or
what? I am sorry, but I am just a little confused. Please explain. Thanks
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 06:55:07 PDT
From: "Elizbeth O'Brien" <elizbetho@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fannel Board
Hello,
Does anyone have a fannel board for it looked like split milk? If so where
did you order it from?
Elizabeth O'Brien
QPBL-Flushing Branch
Flushing, New York
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 11:00:37 -0400
From: Karen Ricketson <ricketso@northnet.org>
Subject: Firefighter songs & fingerplays for Storytimes
Help! I know within the last few months I copied some great firefighter
songs and fingerplays from this list serv but I can't find my copy!
Only the ones, on policemen - wouldn't you know! So much for
organization! :) Would those who sent before be so kind and re-send?
Please send directly to me "ricketso@northnet.org". The storytime I
need them for is next Wednesday October 6th. I'll be happy to compile
and post to the list if there is an interest? Thanks for any help you
can give! PUBYACERs are great and a wealth of knowledge!
I look forward to your ideas!
Karen :)
P.S. Any idea when the archives will be available again?
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:) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :) :)
Karen Ricketson
Children's Services
Plattsburgh Public Library
19 Oak St.
Plattsburgh, NY 12901
(518) 563-0921 (ext. #5)
email: ricketso@northnet.org
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:43:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Martin Sicard <sicardm@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us>
Subject: Filmstrip Viewer (Not a Projector)
Hi All,
Just wondering ... can you still get Filmstrip Viewers (not a
projector)? {Viewers are self contained similar to a micro-film reader}
Do they still make them?
Any leads on where to get one or two?
Thanks!
Martin
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Martin F. Sicard (aka Mr. Martin)
Youth Services Librarian - Port Tampa City Library
Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library System
4902 Commerce St. Tampa, FL 33616
(813) 301-7000 - Fax (813) 301-7008
e-mail address : sicardm@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 10:57:25 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>
Subject: American Youth Corp
Has anyone worked with this group that can give me any
feedback about their product? Apparently they provide
bookcovers for distribution at local libraries. These
are funded by the local advertising that they obtain
to be a part of the book cover. The catch is that you
do not know what advertising will appear until the
bookcovers are produced. Information about the local
library also appears on the cover. Sounds worth a try
to me. Just thought I'd ask in case someone out there
has had any experience with them to share! thanks
Bonnie bjafrm@yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 14:11:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Kathleen Feeney Chappell <kfeeney@wam.umd.edu>
Subject: Specialists vs. generalists
Hi all,
I'm new to the list, so I apologize if this topic has already been
discussed. I'm doing a (short) project in library school to contrast the
system of using children's/YA specialists with the system of staffing a
library with generalists. Do any of you have opinions to offer about
either of these systems, how well they work, how they affect the level of
service you are able to provide to youth? Also, I'm not sure if much has
been written about this topic (my preliminary literature search didn't
come up with much), but if any of you know of articles, manuals,
books, etc that discuss the benefits of either system, I would appreciate
hearing about them.
Thanks,
Kathy Chappell
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 11:44:13 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>
Subject: Jr High Programming
We find ourselves in a challenging situation as part
of a joint grant with the public library, the school
district and the recreation department. The library's
part is a weekly visit for one hour after school to
the Jr Hi. The visit takes place in the multipurpose
room. There about 40 or 50 kids. THe library visit is
from 3:30 to 4:30 towards the end of a long day and
apparently the kids do not have to stay for it and
sometimes waunder in and out. We have some ideas of
activities we could introduce to capture the kids
interest but need more--Part of the challenge is that
the grant included SAN coverage for the time spent at
the school, but not for the preparation-- so we need
scintillating activities that do not take much
preparation and that are somewhat cirriculum oriented.
Not just crafts but a craft that has a scientific
principle involved. Any ideas you might have would be
greatly appreciated. THANKS Bonnie Janssen
bjafrm@yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 12:04:41 -0700
From: Betsy Bybell <bbybell@norby.latah.lib.id.us>
Subject: Downloading onto floppies from OPACs
Good morning everyone,
A question has come up about allowing patrons to download information found
on the Internet onto floppy diskettes from the library's OPAC stations.
Some of our staff are concerned about contacting viruses and want all the
computers "locked" down. I'm more concerned with patrons in the rural
branches who do not have access to the Internet at home and might want to
save files that are longer than several pages. Have any of you run into
this dilemma and how has your library handled it?
Many thanks,
Betsy Bybell
Branch Coordinator, Latah County Library
110 S. Jefferson, Moscow ID 83843
208-882-3925, fax 208-882-5098
email: bbybell@norby.latah.lib.id.us
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