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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 17:41:17 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #834
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:54:18 EDT
From: CCullum621@aol.com
Subject: Re: Duplicating book covers
Duplicating book covers is still a violation of copyright law.
When I went to OfficeMax or Staples to try to copy these covers they were
very adimant about this and would not copy them without written permission
from the author or publisher.
Carolyn Cullum
Edison, NJ
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 21:38:10 -0500
From: James Asbury <jamesasbury@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Specialists vs. generalists
Kathleen Feeney Chappell wrote:
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm new to the list, so I apologize if this topic has already been
> discussed. I'm doing a (short) project in library school to contrast the
> system of using children's/YA specialists with the system of staffing a
> library with generalists. Do any of you have opinions to offer about
> either of these systems, how well they work, how they affect the level of
> service you are able to provide to youth?
>From my experience, if children and young adults do not have a strong
advocate whose sole responsibility that is, they get left in the rear of
the priority bus. I don't believe it is intentional. It is just the
nature of our society: that which is for children is less than that
which is for life. It is a youth librarian's job to make people see it
differently.
- --
"Berry"
jamesasbury@yahoo.com
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Date: Thu, 30 Sep 1999 18:01:06 -0700
From: "Carrie Eldridge" <celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Ideas for games for children's festival
I'm looking for game ideas that can be played at a up-coming children's
festival. These would be sit-down games at a table and the children would
be playing for leftover summer reading prizes.
Carrie Eldridge
San Juan Island Library District
Friday Harbor, WA 98250
360-378-2798
360-378-2706
celdridge@sanjuan.lib.wa.us
"I eat words wherever
I find them but am no wiser.
Keep your books under lock and key
or they'll be devoured by me!"
what am I?
-from "Riddle Road: puzzles in poems and
pictures" illustrated by Erik Blegvad
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Date: Wed, 29 Sep 1999 19:43:04 +0000
From: "Vicky Smith" <vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us>
Subject: Postscript: black characters in fantasy
Just in case you're interested:
Some of you may recall that last spring, I sent out a call for heroic
fantasy titles with black protagonists. This was for a paper I
wanted to write on the subject. Most of the responses ran along
these lines: "Gee, I really can't think of any, but let me know what
you find out!" One of the few books I did hear about was _The Legend
of Tarik_, by Walter Dean Myers.
I recently had the opportunity to talk to Mr. Myers, and quizzed him
on his opinions regarding the dearth of black characters in heroic
fantasy. He spoke of the tendency in the (mostly white) publishing
world to push black authors into writing historical fiction or
contemporary realism (mostly about inner-city problems). He
expressed considerable frustration about this, and great concern that
a figure such as he still has problems shopping manuscripts about
subjects not traditionally "black"--citing difficulties in getting
_Shadow of the Red Moon_ published a few years ago. If WDM is having
trouble, what does this say about the reception new black authors of
fantasy might be receiving?
He further stated that one of the appeals fantasy has for him, as a
black writer, is that it presents an opportunity to portray black
characters outside of what he sees as the "victim" role the
publishing world wants to see.
And, on a personal level, he loves _Legend of Tarik_.
Just thought those who helped me out last spring might be interested.
Thanks for the time.
Vicky Smith
Children's Librarian
McArthur Public Library (207)284-4181
270 Main Street http://www.mcarthur.lib.me.us
Biddeford, ME 04005 vjsmith@mcarthur.lib.me.us
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:09:48 -0400
From: "Capehart" <capehart@net1plus.com>
Subject: RE: super-religious anti-Potter mom
Catherine,
What you seem to have spaced on in your response to Mrs. Simpson's action is
that she was not performing her little act of subversion as a librarian, but
as a mother. It was her daughter's friend who wanted the book, not a library
patron. So there is no terrible PR for librarians. He original post even
ends with the question "Does this make me a bad mother?"
As Librarians I don't think any of us would do an end run around a parent's
wishes and supply their CHILD with something that their parent would object
to. However, the rules are different for young adults. Parents are not given
information on the materials their YA's check out unless that YA is present
(at our library). Were we to do that, we would be breaking state privacy
laws.
Although it might cause problems with the fanatical mother and disrupt her
daughter's friendship, I can tell you that that little girl will always
fondly remember Mrs. Simpson as someone who let her make her own choices.
Tim Capehart
Head Children's Services
Leominster Public Library
Leominster, MA
tcapehar@cwmars.org
http://www.ziplink.net/~capehart
"I just want to read a book that won't break my glasses if I fall asleep
reading in bed." -An elderly patron explaining why she reads YA fiction.
Well, since you asked...
If the tables were turned and her mother was helping your child sneak
around behind your back to do something, I imagine you'd be fuming. How
could you trust this woman with your daughter again, or even be civil to
her? <snip>
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 07:45:29 EDT
From: SusanR50@aol.com
Subject: Re: Newbery Award Poster
Hi
I am retired now, but the salesman from Follett, I think would give me a
set of both posters each year.
Susan Roscoe
Retired Librarian
Oakdale, New York
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 07:41:46 -0400
From: Bonita Kale <wfkale@n2net.net>
Subject: floppies
A question has come up about allowing patrons to download
information found
on the Internet onto floppy diskettes from the library's OPAC
stations.
Some of our staff are concerned about contacting viruses and want
all the
computers "locked" down. I'm more concerned with patrons in the
rural
branches who do not have access to the Internet at home and might
want to
save files that are longer than several pages. Have any of you
run into
this dilemma and how has your library handled it?
Many thanks,
Betsy Bybell
Well, we don't have that problem with our internet terminals (no
drive!) but someone managed to vandalize a word processing
computer in the adult room that way. We had no public word
processing for a -long- time.
I'd let them print out what they need. After all, it's their tax
money paying for those computers--they don't want to see them
destroyed on a whim, any more than you do.
Bonita
(at a secret site, somewhere in Ohio)
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Date: 1 Oct 1999 09:19:40 EDT
From: Steffens@libcoop.net
Subject: Written policy for lib. services to teachers?
We recently began a service in this area for teachers. Teachers must
fill out a request form and we will supply them with materials for 4
weeks for classroom use only. All items must be picked up and returned
to our library (instead of anyone in the coop)and cannot be renewed. We
don't guarantee individuul titles or high demand assignment topics.
Teachers are responsible for all materials. We have only had one
request, so we aren't sure how it works. Without the special teacher
courtesy card, teachers are restricted to the usual 2 books per
nonfiction topic that our small library requires. We have yet to see how
well this works and how popular it will be.
Susan
steffens@libcoop.net
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Date: Tue, 28 Sep 1999 15:59:37 -0700
From: Edmonds Library Youth Services <edm-youth@sno-isle.org>
Subject: Re: YA programming
Dawn Giordano wrote:
>
> I am looking for some ideas for art programs for my YA department.
>
> ______________________________________________________
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Dawn,
About two years ago, the Edmonds Public Library embarked on
a program to upgrade our YA area. The project has taken awhile because
we spent some time getting input from a teen focus group. One idea that
the teens brought up was having teen art hung in the YA area. This idea
went through some development and then last fall I approached the art
department at our local high school to design and construct banners that
would be hung in the YA Area.
The class worked for about 5 months on this project, and the end
product was that in June we had 5 colorful "teen-created" banners hung
in the library's YA Area. The project was a great success (I feel) and
really served to the area a "teen look", which is what we wanted.
The whole project took a while to get completed, but it was worth the
wait.
Tom Reynolds
A/YA Librarian
Edmonds Library
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:27:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Angela Christianson <achristi@prairienet.org>
Subject: Stumper: Easter bunny in the wrong season
Hello - A customer remembers a book that she read somewhere in the 1970s
about an Easter bunny who goes through the seasons trying to give the
Easter eggs away, such as on St. Patrick's Day. This book may also have
been made into a tv program that was animated. This is a long shot and
that is all the information that I have. If you can help, please respond
to me at
achristi@prairienet.org
or
achristians@cml.lib.oh.us
Thanks in advance for any help,
%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%
Angela Christianson
Children's Librarian
Southeast Branch
Columbus (Ohio) Metropolitan Library
www.cml.lib.oh.us
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:50:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: Sherry Rothberg <srothber@ansernet.rcls.org>
Subject: Snow Treasure, the video
Thanks to everyone for responding to my question about this video.
It was made in 1967 and it starred James (TV's "Mr. Novak") Franciscus.
The video is not available; it is out of print.
Sherry Rothberg
Children's Librarian
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:26:50 -0400
From: D P Stout <dpstout@ccls.org>
Subject: RE: Firefighter songs & fingerplays for Storytimes
Hey, I missed those completely and would love a copy of both
fireman/policeman/anything! PLEASE???!!!
Denise M. Pulgino Stout, Youth Services Outreach Librarian
Chester County Public Library
450 Exton Square Parkway
Exton PA 19341
610.280.2672
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:47:19 -0400 (EDT)
From: Zubiller <dzubille@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Timed computer security
Computers by design has implemented a security system that validates
libary cards and also times patrons and secures the computer. It is
called CybraryN. They have a website http://www.cbdusa.com
Danielle Zubiller
Islip Public Library
Reference Department
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:09:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: kay bowes <kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
Subject: Re: Dinosaur Songs, Rhymes, Etc.
I can't thank all of you enough for the great responses I got. The list
is very long -- really too long -- to post but if you are interested send
me your fax number and I can fax it to you. It's several pages. I got
some great ideas. The "Kidstuff" issue (Nov/Dec 1992) is chock full of
great songs, etc. Thanks, again. I will have more than enough for
storytime.
Kay Bowes
Concord Pike Library
Wilmington, DE
kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 11:29:59 -0400
From: Marcia Schaffer <schaffma@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Latchkey Programs
Help! We have a large number of latch key children in our community. Most
of them are stopping in at the library after school for 2-3 hours. We, ok,
I am glad they are coming here instead of hanging out downtown or being
home alone, but we need to do something with them. We are doing programs
with them, but are running out of ideas, mainly because they are such wide
age ranges. Do any of you have any suggestions for programs? We have done
some limited book discussions, (hard because of the ages) and some crafts.
You can reply to me and I will post replys or respond to the list.
Thanks!!
Smiles,
Marcia ;)
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 09:32:28 -0500 (CDT)
From: Kathryn Prestidge <kprestid@owlsnet.owls.lib.wi.us>
Subject: Re: American Youth Corp
We have received their product for a couple of years and it is fine. My
only objection to the information on the materials was that ideal weight
charts were very out dated.
Kathy Prestidge
Wisher, Liar, Magic Bean Buyer
New London Public Library
406 S. Pearl St./New London/WI 54961
kprestid@owls.lib.wi.us
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Bonnie Janssen wrote:
>
> Has anyone worked with this group that can give me any
> feedback about their product? Apparently they provide
> bookcovers for distribution at local libraries. These
> are funded by the local advertising that they obtain
> to be a part of the book cover. The catch is that you
> do not know what advertising will appear until the
> bookcovers are produced. Information about the local
> library also appears on the cover. Sounds worth a try
> to me. Just thought I'd ask in case someone out there
> has had any experience with them to share! thanks
> Bonnie bjafrm@yahoo.com
>
> =====
>
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 09:41:41 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: super-religious anti-Potter mom
I think the daughter in question has a right to read Harry Potter if she
wants, but I think it would not be seemly of you to openly fly in the face
of her mother's wishes by providing her with a comfortable haven in which to
do so; maybe you should have had your daughter suggest to her that the world
is full of reasonably quiet public places - like the library - where one is
free to feed one's mind with whatever legal media one is inclined to. This
way you're not actively involved, but the girl still gets to be the captain
of her own ship. I have a hard time getting enthused about supporting
tyrants - parental or otherwise. Just my opinion, of course, not my
institutions...
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
Catherine Quattlebaum wrote:
> My daughter's best friend got Harry Potter #1 for her birthday and loved
> it. Her mom, who is super-religious Catholic and censors
> EVERYTHING,banned her from reading any others. As I speak, the girl is
> upstairs in my daughter's bedroom finishing Harry Potter #2. Does this
> make me a bad mother ? (Or merely a subversive?)
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 10:45:44 -0400
From: Emily Kubash <Emily@cmpl.org>
Subject: Pokemon Books
After fielding MANY requests for "books about Pokemon" we consulted
Amazon.com and discovered a few titles were available. We purchased a few
chapter book titles that are now housed in our Juvenile Fiction collection.
Although, I don't think the books have touched the shelves once since they
entered our library! Some kids had already placed holds on the books and
the remaining few were quickly snatched up.
As for the quality of said books...I've certainly seen better, but that's
not my primary concern in this case. The masses have spoken here and they
want Pokemon! I respond and say reading anything is better than watching
cartoons or playing video games incessantly. If Pokemon really irritates
you (and I fully admit it's not my favorite either) take comfort in the fact
that this is a trend and will probably be fairly short-lived. Eventually
the kids will get bored and you, the librarian, will have your chance to
jump in assist them in locating good, quality titles to enjoy.
Here's the info on the books we've purchased:
West, Tracey. Pokemon I choose you. ISBN#:0439104645
Island of the giant pokemon. 0439104661
Attack of the prehistoric pokemon. 0439135508
Just my thoughts on the subject,
Emily Kubash
emily@cmpl.org
Clinton-Macomb Public Library
Clinton Township, MI
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 10:07:28 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: John Berry III editorial: We "Protect" Free Expression
Mr. Berry has a grand old time here defending the "right" to free
expression as a cherished American absolute, but I believe he will find
that when such expression has involved placing the public at risk ie
shouting FIRE in a crowded theatre or exposing minors to pornography,
the law has traditionally been considerably less than enthusiastic about
protecting the expressor. As well it should be. Once again the issue
here is clouded by people who persist in confusing apples with oranges;
placing age restrictions on access to certain images in public is not
at all the same as censoring ideas, and we do our public image damage by
insisting that they are.
Chuck Schacht
Romeo District Library
Romeo, MI.
Don Wood wrote:
> by John Berry, III, October 1, 1999
>
> We "Protect" Free Expression
> http://www.ljdigital.com/articles/views/editorial/editorialindex.asp
>
> ________________________
> Don Wood
> American Library Association
> Office for Intellectual Freedom
> 50 East Huron Street
> Chicago, IL 60611
> 800-545-2433, ext. 4225
> Fax: 312-280-4227
> dwood@ala.org
> http://www.ala.org/oif.html
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Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 11:17:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: "Mary Johnson (amk)" <mjohnson@wlsmail.wls.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Children, porn, and the First Amendment
My understanding is that, if you allowed all adults and all children
*who had their parent's permission* to view "Hustler", you would be
violating no-one's right to information even if you kept it behind the
circ. desk and required a library card. I do understand opinions differ
on this. However, sometimes we keep items behind the circ desk and ask
for a card not to keep them away from patrons, but to make them
accessible! Example: In our library, the Sunday "Times" was
continually
stolen. So we had to keep it behind the circ desk and ask for a card in
order to keep it available to all patrons, not just the thief. Are we
violating our patrons' right to information by doing this, or are we
protecting it? I'd say we were protecting it, for we're ensuring the
Sunday Times is available to all. I hope this helps.
Mary Johnson, YA librarian, North Castle Library, Armonk, NY
mjohnson@wls.lib.ny.us
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999 Powderpuffs@aol.com wrote:
> Maybe I am just not understanding the difference between banning a book and
> or setting restrictions on it. Actually, my question is, say there are a
> couple of graphic how to sex books and or magazines such as hustler and
> playboy. If the library carries them but restricts children from viewing or
> checking them out, would that be considered the library is "not
violating"
> their first amenment? And if the library pulls the book off the shelf
> completely it is a violation? Maybe I am just a little slow but I don't see
> the difference. Is it just because they discard it altogether that makes it
> a violation, not allowing others to view them on account of the children or
> what? I am sorry, but I am just a little confused. Please explain. Thanks
>
>
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Date: Fri, 01 Oct 1999 10:25:23 -0400
From: Amy Lilien <alilien@flvax.ferg.lib.ct.us>
Subject: Re: super-religious anti-Potter mom
Just to play devil's advocate, what if a child comes into the library and
asks for books on parents who drink, or parents who abuse? Do we allow the
parent to know what the child is reading and arbitrate whether or not the
child may take out the book? Or to be even more subversive, what if the
child wants a book on safe sex?
I agree that generally speaking it is the parents who must make decisions
about what their children learn and do, but what about when a child NEEDS a
book that the parent does not want them to have. Whose rights come first?
Personally for me, I would say the childs.
I admit that this is comparing apples and oranges, and I do not necessarily
agree with what this mother did (allowing a child forbidden to read Harry
Potter to read it in her home) but I think we need to stop and really THINK
before we make ANY kind of blanket statements.
Snip:
>Also, librarians are always telling everybody that what children read is
>up to their parents and no one else. We can't subvert that b/c then we
>don't have a professional leg to stand on.
>
>If you gave this child that book against her mother's will, you're
>helping her sneak around and lie, and it's TERRIBLE PR for librarians.
>That's not the right way to show this mother the light, or to help
>expand the mind of this child. And trust me, super-mom will find out
>about this; after all, you and this child are now a couple of freedom
>fighters for the same cause. There's no WAY that kid can sit on this
>information forever, she'll absolutely have to rub her mother's face in
>it eventually. Which all but guarantees that she'll never see your
>daughter again, much less Harry Potter.
>
>Just my two cents. I could actually say a lot more. The only thing I'd
>say to the child, though, is "I'm sorry, sweetheart, but your mother
>doesn't want you to read that book, and we both know that. Maybe she'll
>change her mind sometime."
>
>I'm sure you're a very good person. Your heart's in the right place.
>Sorry I have to disagree with you...
>
>catherine q.
>
Snip
- --Amy Lilien-Harper
alilien@ferg.lib.ct.us
The statements above are my own and have no reflection on my library
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