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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 19:23:09 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #838
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:38:09 -0500
From: Amy Cline <acline@ci.sat.tx.us>
Subject: Filtering: A brief survey
The San Antonio Public Library is in the process of reviewing its Internet
policy. If your library uses filtering software, we would appreciate your
response with the following information:
The name of your library
The brand of filtering software your library uses
The pros and cons of your filtering software
Are all terminals filtered or just selected terminals?
Does your library have a designated YA section separate from the Children's
Department?
In the interest of time, please respond directly to me.
Thank you,
Amy J. Cline
Children's Librarian
San Antonio Public Library
acline@ci.sat.tx.us
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:02:32 -0400
From: Arnie Naiman <ragged@interlog.com>
Subject: Re: Public Library Programs for the Pre-Toddler
Hello, I'm new to this list, but I will dive right in. I do library
music programs for babies, toddlers, and pre-schoolers in 3 Ontario
libraries. Your queries about programs caught my interest.
My programs have been extremely successful. I had to add 2 more this
season to fill the demand [ I do 17 a week ] I think they are one of the
most valuable services that libraries can offer because they are a
child's first introduction to books and music and can foster a love that
will grow forever.
My classes are a mixture of music, singing games, finger plays, rhymes,
tickles and bounces. I leave the books for the Storytime programers.
I have many favourite resources that I think any programer would find
useful.
1. I'm a Little Teapot. Jane Cobb ISBN 0-9698666-0-7
2. This Little Puffin. Elizabeth Matterson
3. any of the Ruth Crawford Seeger collections
4. any thing collected by Peter and Iona Opie.
Sorry to advertise but my recordings Tickles and Tunes, More Tickles and
Tunes, and Say Hello to the Morning have a lot [35 cuts on each ] of
pre-school music games and activities. You could check them out on my
web site if you are interested.
I hope this is useful information
Kathy Reid-Naiman
http://www.interlog.com/~ragged/index.html
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 02:40:05 GMT
From: "Rebecca Smith" <rsps@hotmail.com>
Subject: re: citing listservs
Univerisity of Illinois's Library School Web Page has links to sites on
citation formats at http://alexia.lis.uiuc.edu/lrl/links/cite.html
*********
Rebecca S. Smith, MLS
San Diego Public Library
Branch Libraries Division
rsps@hotmail.com
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 21:36:40 -0500
From: "Maeleah K. Carlisle" <mkcarlis@map.com>
Subject: Internet and Teachers
I am working with several other people at the Springfield Library to put
together a workshop for teachers (6th-12th grade) in Springfield on the
Internet, incorporating aspects of how the Internet can be used with the
Massachusetts Frameworks. But I would like to tap into the collective
knowledge on this listserv. I was wondering if anyone knew of any
favorite web sites, as expressed by teachers or that you have used with
teachers? Also has anyone else done this kind of workshop of combining
the Internet and a state set of guidelines for the curriculum, and if
you have, do have any helpful hints?
We already know about Linda Braum's web site, AskEric, and Kathy
Schrock's web site, and some more common sites like the Multnomah
Homework Site, Bert's Best Sites and AskJeeves. Also we have sent out a
survey to the participants to get an idea regarding their expectations
and their levels of experience on the Internet.
Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated. I will gladly post a
summary of the web site suggestions. E-mail me at mkcarlis@map.com
Thank you.
Maeleah Carlisle, Children's Librarian
Springfield Library, Springfield, MA
mkcarlis@map.com
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 13:53:06 -0400 (EDT)
From: Shelley Chick-Gravel <gravel@noblenet.org>
Subject: Re: school library partners
I started a cooperative program this year. I am visiting first grades,
reading a story and talking about the library. Our Friends group
purchased some book bags and bookmarks which I am giving to the
children. This program has also encouraged teachers to bring groups to
the library and a few have already scheduled a visit.
On Tue, 28 Aug 1956,
Karen Abarno wrote:
> Hello,
> To what degree do you partner with your local school librarians? What
> is the nature of the partnership?
>
>
Shelley Chick-Gravel, Children's Librarian
Abbot Public Library, Marblehead Massachusetts
gravel@noblenet.org
North of Boston Library Exchange
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 10:55:30 -0700 (PDT)
From: Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: Library web page policies
Pam: We're currently working on this as well--I'd
appreciate any input you get! now we have a Web
Implementation Team That oversees the develop of the
web pages. As Children's Manager, I have
responsiblity for the children's links. I started
with a small committee of children's staff who helped
me come up with many of the links--unfortunately they
have very little time and the staff that actually puts
the pages together has not been able to do that yet so
our links are not yet loaded. We will be discussing
who we are trying to serve, what we want this site to
do, etc at our next Children's Services meeting.
Bonnie Janssen bjafrm@yahoo.com
- --- Pam Henley <phenley@mtlib.org> wrote:
> Our library is wondering about policies governing
> web pages; specifically
> library home pages with links. If your library has
> a home page and you
> provide links to outside sources, how do you decide
> what is included or
> not? Who decides? Have there been any complaints
> when a link leads patrons
> to another site that may be questionable (at least
> in the opinion of the
> patron)? Any information would be greatly
> appreciated!
>
________________________________________________________
> Pam Henley, MLIS <phenley@mtlib.org>
> Children's Librarian, Bozeman Public Library
> 220 East Lamme
> Bozeman, MT 59715
>
>
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:29:37 -0400
From: bwilliams@brdgprtpl.lib.ct.us (Bina Williams)
Subject: RE: super-religious anti-Potter mom
Think of all the other possibilities of things that kids do at other
people's houses (or even their own....) Reading Harry Potter is pretty
tame. I think that the question is whether Martha physically handed the
book to the girl or whether she was just amused to observe the girl and her
daughter reading the book when she went upstairs... I used to go to my
friend's house because she had all the Nancy Drew books and we didn't. I
don;t think Mom disapproved, she just didn't spend money on them. I know
that reading them made me a more avid reader and a mystery reader at that.
I still remember my mental image of one scary scene in one of the books.
Bina Williams
Bridgeport Public Library
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 14:52:25 -0600
From: bstroomer@lafayette.lib.co.us
Subject: phonics materials (long)
Greetings all-
We are finding we have more and more requests for very basic phonics
materials to teach reading. Although we have some resources, including
Hooked on Phonics, Jane Belk Moncure's Sound Box series and the related
Alphabet Books set (combinations such as ig, at, og, and so on), we find
ourselves struggling to come up with enough of the VERY simple resources
parents are asking for. They seem to be looking for books with text limited
to (or very nearly) one or two letter sounds or blends. With this in mind,
I'd be interested to know:
- --We have pretty much decided to purchase the BOB Books. Do those of you
that have these sets circulate them as sets, or as individual books? Do you
find you need multiple sets to satisfy demand? I know they are small
paperbacks - we have a collection of little paperbacks for emergent readers,
from publishers such as Rigby, which are about the same size/type. We
process them minimally - no barcode - and check them out "in bulk"
with a
card at the desk called "uncataloged paperbacks", therefore counting
them
for stats but nothing else. We're wondering if it would work to circ the BOB
Books the same way, or if it would be frustrating for people who need the
"next" book their child is ready for not to have the entire set at
once.
- --Has anyone used the KinderRimes or Supersonics: Fun with Phonics
materials published by Rigby? I think they are fairly new to the Rigby
line.
- --What about the Hello Reader! Phonics Fun series or the School Zone Start
to Read! series? Are there other phonics reader series out there that seem
to fit the criteria of limited text and just a few letter sounds or blends
emphasized?
Thanks in advance for sharing your experience and wisdom! BTW - if you
reply to me personally, please type or copy my email address (below) into
your message - a glitch in our system (fixable, but not fixed yet!)inserts
an improper character in my address if you use the reply key, and your
message will bounce. Thanks.
Betsy
Betsy Stroomer
Lafayette Public Library
Lafayette, CO
bstroome@lafayette.lib.co.us
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 12:12:02 -0500
From: "Sean P. S. George" <sgeorge@stcharles.lib.la.us>
Subject: Re: Duplicating book covers
Having worked at a Kinko's before being a librarian, I can tell you that copying
services like Kinko's, OfficeMax, etc., will always require some sort of
official clearance or a form explicitly stating the circumstance that qualifies
them for "Fair Use." This hard line approach stems from a few
multimillion dollar lawsuits brought against Kinko's in the 80's, because of
their practice of making "class packets" for university professors.
On the other hand, since I have been a librarian, I have contacted publishers,
etc., for permission to reproduce things for storytime, booktalking, or other
promotional purposes. The response I have invariably gotten is that they are
happy for us to copy book covers or content for activities that promote the
book, especially when we have already purchased copies of the book and/or it is
out of print. They look on it as additional marketing. But they have also always
expressed their appreciation that I took the time to call and ask.
<><><><><><><><><><><><>
Sean George
Youth Services Coordinator
St. Charles Parish Library
sgeorge@stcharles.lib.la.us
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 01:20:51 -0400
From: kfrees01 <kfrees01@cwpost.liu.edu>
Subject: YA specialists
I am curious to know to what extent children and YA librarianship overlap. In
many of the conversations pertaining to teen sections it seems as though they
are combined with the children's department and have at least one staff member
dedicated to YA reference issues. However, in most of the libraries I've been
in the YA section is located in the adult section with the children's section
being far removed from both and teen questions have been fielded by
generalists who did their best. Is there a separate specialization for YA?
Are they more commonly associated with the adult or the children's
departments?
I am a library student who enjoys working with teens but am not particularly
skilled with groups of younger children. I am therefore very interested in
learning to what extent specialized YA services are run from the adult vs. the
children's departments of public libraries (and, for that matter, if anyone
feels this difference impacts on the quality of a department).
I would appreciate any input you can give me. My e-mail is
kfrees01@cwpost.liu.edu if you want to send mail directly to me instead of
posting it.
Thank you in advance!
K. Freese
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 10:16:39 -0700
From: "Suzanne Smithson" <Ssmit@ci.carlsbad.ca.us>
Subject: Harry Potter info
Hi everyone!
A little addition to the HP discussion ...
The Barnes and Noble in Escondido, CA did a Harry Potter Release party for the
release of book 3 in September. They hung golden snitches from the ceiling with
fishing line at various heights. They made them from sparkly gold Christmas tree
ornaments with gold "angel wings" hot-glued on. They found the wings
in the doll section of a local craft store. ( I asked, of course!) They also had
a drawing contest in which children submitted pictures a week before the party
(so they could be judged and hung up). The contest had three age ranges and the
participants were asked to draw a character from the books. Each of the three
winner got a copy of the 3rd book.
They did more, too, but mostly things that have already been mentioned.
HTH
Suzanne Smithson
Carlsbad City Library
ssmit@ci.carlsbad.ca.us
(760) 602-2041
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:37:09 -0500
From: Peggy Northcraft <mdu002@mail.connect.more.net>
Subject: Dynix and Internet filters
To All
A freind of mine needs to know of libraries who are running Dynix with
Internet filters that reside on the PCs rather than the server. Anyone out
there? He is doing a workshop for CODI and could use some input.
Let me know who you are and I will put you in touch with him.
TIA
Peggy
Margaret "Peggy" Northcraft
"Librarians give safe harbor to the thoughts and dreams, knowledge and
aspirations of humankind." Me
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 11:54:51 -0500
From: "Doriene" <doriene@bgpl.lib.in.us>
Subject: super-religious anti-Potter mom
I don't have the original post any more, but I was wondering if the =
librarian mom actually GAVE the Potter book to the friend, of if she =
just knows that the friend is reading her daughter's copy, and is =
choosing to pretend she doesn't know it? That makes a really big =
difference, in my opinion, and I don't think she actually said she did =
give the book to the friend, only that the friend was reading it!
Doriene Malloy
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 16:09:55 -0400 (EDT)
From: EH <helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us>
Subject: Seventeen - shelves of shame
Just for fun --
Check out the "lovely" images of librarians from the teen point of
view
in the TRAUMA-RAMA sec of the November SEVENTEEN - pg. 30 & 32. Too bad
there weren't any "and then the really cool YA librarian saved the
day!"
ERIN
@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@*^@
{/}{/} {/}{/}
{/{}/} Erin V. Helmrich, M.L.S. {/{}/}
{/}{/} Youth Services/Young Adult Librarian {/}{/}
{/{}/} {/{}/}
~*~*~*~*~*~* ~*~*~*~*~*~
Royal Oak Public Library
222 E. 11 Mile Rd.
Royal Oak, Michigan 48067
PHONE 248.541.1470 / FAX 248.545.6220 / E-MAIL helmrich@tln.lib.mi.us
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 09:58:41 -0400
From: Catherine Quattlebaum <quattlec@mail.wilkes.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: Re: pubyac V1 #835
> Date: Fri, 1 Oct 1999 14:02:01 -0700 (PDT)
> From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
> Subject: RE: super-religious anti-Potter mom
>
> On Fri, 1 Oct 1999, Capehart wrote:
> Catherine missed the parent/vs.librarian role but she was on target with
> the actual ethical objection.
I'm sorry, what point did I miss?
- --catherine
>
>
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 15:11:23 -0400
From: Toni Buzzeo <buzzeocyll@mix-net.net>
Subject: Caldecott buzz?
Hello all,
My friend and colleague, Laurel Parker at the Windham (ME) Public
Library, were talking today about 2000 Caldecott buzz. Neither of us
has heard much and we wonder which titles you all might be thinking
about as potential Caldecott candidates this year?
Best,
Toni
Toni Buzzeo, MA, MLIS
Maine Library Media Specialist of the Year
Longfellow School Library
Portland, ME
Co-Author: TERRIFIC CONNECTIONS WITH AUTHORS, ILLUSTRATORS, AND
STORYTELLERS : REAL SPACE AND VIRTUAL LINKS (Libraries Unlimited,
November 1999--Prepub Discount Flyers available from the authors)
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 15:09:26 -0400
From: Alice West <AWEST@mail.mpl.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Storytime Evaluations
At our library, several of us do storytimes. Our policy is that for the two-year
old and three-year old storytimes, parents remain in the room. I have been doing
three year olds. (What cuties!)
I am thinking of giving my storytime parents evaluations to fill out at the last
session of my storytime (that is, if I think I can handle the abuse!)
Does anyone have any experience with doing storytime evaluations? Have you found
the feedback helpful? I am especially interested in suggestions for what the
evaluation should include. I have some ideas already, but would like to know
what you have found most/least helpful.
Thanks,
Alice West
Children's Librarian
Union Township Library
West Chester, Ohio
awest@mail.mpl.lib.oh.us
!
!
!
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Date: Mon, 04 Oct 1999 16:56:53 -0400
From: Rachel Hyland <rhyland@farmington.lib.ct.us>
Subject: YA oriented Dewey Numbers?
Hi yackers!
I am thinking of posting a YA specific guide to Dewey with my growing
Teen Non-Fiction collection. My non-fiction is mostly fun stuff
(astrology, sports, comics, crafts etc...) and hot topics for teens
(puberty, drugs, eating disorders), along with some curriculum related
topics. I was wondering if anyone was aware of a model I could use?
Thanks for your help!
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Date: Mon, 4 Oct 1999 14:20:37 -0400 (EDT)
From: Elizabeth Thomsen <libmgmt@world.std.com>
Subject: Pokemon books
I've been reading the messages about the Pokemon books with interest. It
seems to me that there is one simple answer to why we buy these-- because
they are popular, and our patrons want them. I don't know why we always
have to justify popular material by reciting the mantra, "at least they
are reading" and expressing the fond hope that maybe they will eventually
discover better literature. Some of the Pokemon people will, some won't,
some already have. Their other reading interests, present or future,
don't seem particularly relevant to filling this particular request. And
we don't do this with our adult patrons-- supply them with plumbing books
and gardening books and series mysteries in the fond hope that eventually
maybe they'll read Tolstoy. Practical and recreational reading by adults
is simply accepted and supported for what it is.
The real trick with Pokemon books and the endless succession of other
fiction and nonfiction fads is to forget things like reviews, jump on the
bandwagon early, buy enough to satisfy the demand, and to not be afraid to
discard the books (or what's left of them!) when the demand is over. This
is actually the *cheapest* way to buy them as well-- the earlier you buy
them, the more chance they have to circulate before the fad passes. In
terms of cost per circ, you'll find these fad items are probably far less
costly than most of the items that you buy.
And remember: every kid who doesn't get his Pokemon books at the library
has no trouble getting them from the competition: Borders, Amazon, etc.
- ---
Elizabeth B. Thomsen
http://members.tripod.com/ethomsen/
"Rethinking Reference: A Reference Librarian's Practical Guide to
Surviving Constant Change" Neal-Schuman, Fall, 1999
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Date: Tue, 5 Oct 1999 15:55:47 -0400 (EDT)
From: kay bowes <kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
Subject: Re: Dinosaur songs, etc.
The response was overwhelming for the list to be faxed so I will be doing
a posting to the list soon. It is a wonderfully long list so as soon as I
can. I had great success with some of them yesterday. Thanks a lot.
Kay Bowes
Concord Pike Library
Wilmington, DE
kibowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu
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Date: Tue, 05 Oct 1999 09:48:10 -0400
From: Catherine Quattlebaum <quattlec@mail.wilkes.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: kids rights v. parents rights
Keri wrote:
I just had a question about the message you posted. I understand that
the mother doesnt want the child to read that particular book and it
should be her
responsiblity. But if a child asks for a book no matter what type, is
it part of the child's Freedom of Information for you to get that book
for the child. In other words would we ever have the choice to stand
with the mother on the way she feels?
Keri,
It's not about choice; it's about whether or not we're serious when we
say that we shouldn't/won't/can't take over the responsibilities of
parenting. If we're serious, we'll remember that disapproval of Harry
Potter is not a crime. It's silly and paranoid and no fun, but that's
honestly the worst we can say about it. Re: Freedom of Information,
the rights and privileges accorded to children are different than those
of parents and other adults, and sometimes parents make decisions that
don't agree with our own. It helps me to remember how enraged I'd be if
I found out someone was siphoning my child a steady supply of NRA
propaganda, or sneaking religious materials behind my back to
"witness"
to my child, or doing anything else that conflicts with my rights to
raise my child according to my values. Never mind that the
aforementioned violators have the best of intentions, because they think
they're right. That's hardly the point.
Re: the post concerning children of alcoholics wanting information
about alcoholism--are you serious? Something like that is not even on a
par with Harry Potter. Now we're talking about elemental right and
wrong, and since the inherent wrongness of letting a child languish in
an alcoholic home shouldn't even be a debatable point, I question why
it's been pulled in to a discussion about books. At that point, we're
not talking about books, we're talking about whether or not to involve
the authorities. I know it's just a hypothetical example, but it's not
the right way to address the issue. There's no such thing as a Harry
Potter emergency.
Are we still even talking about Harry Potter?
- --catherine q.
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