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Date: Sat, 16 Oct 1999 11:56:52 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #852

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Date: Wed, 13 Oct 1999 22:02:11 -0500 (CDT)
From: a_long@ix.netcom.com
Subject: Inspirational fiction

Hello collective minds!

Every two months at my library, all of the reference librarians are asked to read a book
from a particular genre for reader's advisory. This month's assignment is
"inspirational/christian fiction." Can anyone recomend a few titles that would fall into the YA
catagory -- besides the LaHay "Left Behid" teen series. I am in the process of trying to get
that ordered.

Thanks!
Amy Long
Young Adult Librarian
Harford County Public Library (MD)
a_long@ix.netcom.com

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 11:00:11 -0400 (EDT)
From: Julie Ann Rines <jrines@ocln.org>
Subject: Books we want

I have just seen the SLJ December holiday book reviews and there is only
one Kwanzaa book on the list and once again it is an explaination of the
holiday. I don't need explainations I need stories for families who
already celebrate the holiday. Has anyone seen anything new? I'm pretty
sure we have bought anything published previously.
Julie Rines
jrines@ocln.org

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 09:24:54 -0700
From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>
Subject: Stumper solved: witch in attic

Thank you, thank you!

I hadn't even seen my original post before the answers started coming in!
It sounds like the title of the witch in the attic with a blueberry pancake
recipe is OLD BLACK WITCH by Wende and Harry Devlin. It is OP, but a PB
might be available. (You know how that is.)

Another suggestion was The Polka-Dot Witch, but I was unable to verify any
info on that title.

Thanks again - we'll get the book to the patron one way or another.

Jan Wall
Youth Services Librarian
Latah County Library District
110 South Jefferson Street
Moscow ID 83843
fax: 208-882-5098
janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:40:53 -0400 (EDT)
From: kay bowes <kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
Subject: Old Nursery Song Stumper

Hi all!
A patron is searching for the name of the song, rest of the words, etc.,
for an old nursery song. His mother was a nursery teacher and he is
probably in at least his late sixties, early seventies. This is what he
remembers:
"Oh, I'm a captain of a tidy little ship
A ship that goes a sailing on the sea. . ."
We looked in all of the books we had in our collection on favorite nursery
songs, etc. TIA.

Kay Bowes
Concord Pike Library
Wilmington, DE
kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:58:13 -0400 (EDT)
From: kay bowes <kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
Subject: Re: Bob Books

I lost the address of whoever asked me for info on the Bob books, so here
goes:
Bob Books, by Bobby Lynn Maslen ISBN 0590203738, $15.95, 1994
More Bob Books, ISBN 0590203746, $15.95. 1994
Bob Books Plus, ISBN 0590021711, $15.95, 1996
Hope this helps.
kay Bowes
Concord Pike Library
Wilmington, DE
kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 10:30:33 -0700 (PDT)
From: Carol Scheper <pearl_513@yahoo.com>
Subject: Stumper: M book

I have a teacher who came in and said that she once
took out a book about the letter M. I have looked all
over but found nothing. Maybe someone here could
help. Thanks!!!!

Carol Scheper
Children's Librarian Trainee
Queens Borough Public Library
Arvene Branch
Cscheper@QueensLibrary.org

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:09:02 -0500 (CDT)
From: Tanya DiMaggio <tanya@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us>
Subject: STUMPER SOLVED: THUMB

The book is Robert Littell's "Gaston's Ghastly Green Thumb." Thank you all
who wrote in with the answer. td

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Tanya DiMaggio
Children's Librarian
Slidell Branch
St. Tammany Parish Library
555 Robert Blvd.
Slidell,LA 70458-1600
504-646-6470 x17
504-645-3553 fax
tanya@mail.sttammany.lib.la.us

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 15:26:10 -0400
From: Robin Shtulman <shtulman@erving.com>
Subject: scary stories for the very young

Can anyone recommend scary stories for the first and second grade set?

I have a large group of children who want to look at genuinely scary books.
They are not fooled by stories of friendly ghosts and witches, such as
Georgie. The books, ideally, would have many pictures but not cross the
line into true horror.

Thank you!

Robin

R. Shtulman
Erving Elementary School
28 Northfield Road
Erving, MA 01344
shtulman@erving.com

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:14:02 -0700
From: Van Vranken Gail <GVanvranken@TORRNET.COM>
Subject: STUMPER!!

HELP!! A patron remembers a book, a poem or TV cartoon about a character who
is walking down a road and comes to a fork. He takes one path and takes a
couple of steps but returns to go down the other path, but returns and
continues this until he realizes that he can't go down both roads because
all he will get is a split in his pants.

THANKS IN ADVANCE

Gail Van Vranken
gvanvranken@torrnet.com

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:50:52 -0500 (CDT)
From: Julie Linneman <juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us>
Subject: STUMPER: Star in the apple

Many of you may have heard about the oft-requested story about the star in
the apple. I know that it is often found in teacher resource guides or
collections of storytelling tales. However, we have a patron who already
has a copy of the story in a teacher resource guide, but she believes that
the story also existed as a picture book that she thinks she checked out
from us several years back. In her guide, the story is called "The Life
Story of the Apple," by Madge Bigham, although that may not be the author
or title for the picture book.

Can anyone help us with this one?


Julie Linneman
juliel@wichita.lib.ks.us

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Date: Fri, 15 Oct 1999 09:37:50 +1300
From: Ingrid Henderson <Ingrid.henderson@ncc.govt.nz>
Subject: Sun and Moon finger rhymes

Hello everyone,
I was hoping that those involved in storytimes for 0-3 year olds could help
out with ideas for finger plays revolving around the themes of the sun and
moon. We have some fantastic stories here for an upcoming SmallTime and I'd
love to hear of any new and exciting fingerplays along those lines.
Depending on responses I'll post a collection of these to the list after
I've complied them. Thanks in advance to all,
Ingrid

Ingrid Henderson
Assistant Children's and Young Person's Librarian
Nelson Public Library
Private Bag 41
Nelson
New Zealand
Ingrid.Henderson@ncc.govt.nz
+0064 03 546-0419

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 12:37:58 -0400 (EDT)
From: Amy Blake <ablake@kcpls1.vinu.edu>
Subject: Re:Stumper

Hello Yackers,

Thanks to all who responded to my 'Bubble Gum" song stumper. A few different
responses came back which were similar for the most part. The general
concensus was it is a Girl Scout song:

My mother gave me a penny to go and see Jack Benny
But I didn't see Jack Benny
Instead I bought Bubble Gum
A oompah, oompah bubble gum
A oompah, oompah bubble gun
Instead I bought bubble gum

My mother gave me a nickle to go and buy a pickle...
My mother gave me a dime to go and suck a lime...
My mother game me a quarter to go across the border...
My mother game me a dollar to go upstairs and holler...


If your interested in the other versions e-mail me personally and I can send
them to you.

Thanks again!

Amy
Knox County Public Library
Vincennes, IN 47591

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 14:44:43 -0500
From: "Marion \"Meb\" Ingold" <ingoldm@sls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Stumper

Oh, collective wisdom, help this poor librarian.
A patron was just in wanting the folktale about the boy who
follows his mother's instructions to the letter without thinking. He
puts the butter on his head and it melts on the way home. . . He drags
the bread behind him all the way home, etc.
I remember this story well . . . My mother read it to me when I
was little. . .I've read several variations of the story. . . One has
the boy with a very unusual first name. . . But can I remember the name
of it? NO-O-O-O!
Thanks for your help.
- -----
Meb Ingold, Children's Services Director
La Grange Park Public Library
La Grange Park, IL 60526

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 13:16:35 -0700
From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>
Subject: Stumper: Janet

Thanks again!

The unanimous vote re: "Janet from another planet" was "Interplanet Janet"
from Schoolhouse Rock.

Thanks to those who included the website or lyrics!

http://genxtvland.simplenet.com/SchoolHouseRock/index-hi.shtml

Other ideas - Janet from another planet on "All My Children" and Janet
Planet who was Van Morrision's girlfriend "during the astral years" (?)

I never would have gotten this one because I didn't have a TV during the
70s (my choice), but staff members can still sing some of the lyrics of the
Schoolhouse Rock shows!

(BTW, the patron is still "not quite sure" this is what she wants.)

Jan Wall
Youth Services Librarian
Latah County Library District
110 South Jefferson Street
Moscow ID 83843
fax: 208-882-5098
janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 16:13:27 -0700
From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>
Subject: RE: Tickle storytime (LONG!)

Thanks to all who responded to my questions about a tickle storytime.

I am especially grateful to Karen Sonderman who pointed out that not all
child development specialists think that tickling is a good thing (isn't
always enjoyed by young children, can easily get out of hand, can lead to
inappropriate touching behaviors.) Some of us as adults hate to be tickled,
so I will emphasize "gentle tickling" and the ability (need?!) to say no
when you don't want to be tickled or have had enough! (Listen to "Tickle
Time" on RHINOCEROS TAP.)

Here are the reponses:

Books, rhymes:
TICKLEMONSTER AND ME- Max Haynes
PIGGIES - Audrey and Don Wood (fingerpuppets are available through
Lakeshore or Ingram - 17.95 ISBN# 0-15-201838-7)

Books from my original list:
THE TICKLEOCTOPUS - Audrey and Don Wood
TICKLE TICKLE - Helen Oxenbury
TOES ARE TO TICKLE - Shen roddie
IF YOU LOVE A BEAR - Piers Harper
PETE'S A PIZZA - William Steig
JESSE BEAR'S TUM-TUM TICKLE - Nancy Carlstrom
and a selection from PLAYTIME RHYMES - Marc Brown

(From Torrie Hodgson):
"Ickle me pickle me tickle me too" Shel Silverstein

There's lots of fingerplays that can involve tickling, like "This little
piggy went to market...," "Wiggle your fingers & wiggle your
toes..." could easily change to "Tickle your fingers & tickle your
toes...," I wonder if the "Doin' the Tenessee wiggle walk..." could
be similarly adapted....

(From Chuck Schacht)
try "Tickle my knees, then tickle my toes, tickle my ribs, then
tickle my nose,'till laughs come pouring out of me and I'm as tickled as
tickled can be...

(From Cindy Cristin)
Round and round the garden (draw circles on palm)
Went the teddy bear
One step, two steps (climb up arm)
Tickley under there! (tickle under arm!)

Same motions, different words:
Round about, round about
Went a little mouse
Up a bit, up a bit
Into his little house!

Another favorite:
Baby baby dumpling
Boil (her/him) in the pot (bounce child)
Sugar her, and butter her (sprinkle, then slather all over)
And eat her while she's hot! (tickle!)

(From Janet Kreason)
"The Puppy and the Kitty Cat"
Here is a little puppy.
(Hold up left fist)
Here is a kitty cat.
(Hold up right fist)
Puppy goes to sleep,
Curled up on his mat.
(Put clenched fist on table or lap)
Kitty creeps up softly,
(Move fingers of right hand slowly toward left)
Tickles puppy's chin
(Tickle left thumb with right index finger)
Puppy wakes up quickly!
(Lift left fist)
See the chase begin!
(Keeping fingers clenched, have left fist "chase" right in circles)
- --------Kidstuff

(From Theresa Gormley and PUBYAC)
Tickle the clouds
Tickle your toes
turn around and tickle your nose

Reach down low
and reach up high
storytime's over
so wave goodbye.


CRAFTS/ACTIVITES:

(From Susan Graf) - play Twister!

(From Torrie)
Make a rib-tickler:
It's easiest to make them from newspaper, but that's awfully
smudgy. Maybe your local paper can give you some tag ends or
trims from the blank paper rolls.

I use the recipe in Robert Lopshire's _How to make flibbers, etc._
The item in question actually *is* a flibber, which is sort of a long
tickle-lance.

In short, use three of the long pieces of newspaper overlapped
slightly at the ends, or about 5-6 feet off a roll of newsprint.
Roll these into a tube about the size of a small wrapping-paper
core.
Tap the ends to even the roll up, then tear from one end to about
1/3 of the way towards the other end. The tear should go all the
way through the layers. Repeat until you have four equal sections
torn 1/3 of the way down.
Poke your finger in the end with the torn sections, pinch one of the
centermost sections, and gently pull out while holding firmly onto
the untorn end of the tube.
It will look like a cross between an unhealthy palm tree and a
cheerleaders' pom pom -- perfect for distance tickling.

I tried it out with our kraft paper here, but the paper is too stiff and
wouldn't tear (it barely would cut through the layers.) The finished
product was also not really soft enough to be used as a tickling
implement.

I suppose green paper would even look a bit like a really spindly
Christmas Tree.
P.S. Also in Steven Caney's KIDS' AMERICA

(From Pat Vasilik)
"Hugs":
Maybe this idea will fit -- we used it to show a hug, but you
could I think stretch it a bit. We had the kids make a paper plate face and
to that we attached (on the back of the paper plate down toward the bottom)
a long strip of paper (we used a 2" wide strip of construction paper about
20 inches long -- like you would use to make a headband). At either end we
had attached some cut off "hands". We folded the strip over the front of
the plate. The strip was long enough so that it had we could also fold the
ends with the hands attached to them back again. Once it was folded flat,
the hands and part of the strip sort of covered the mouth and "chin" of the
paper plate face. The kids could pull the hands open to make the "arms"
(the strip of paper) long again to show arms open out into a hug)
It's much easier to show than to explain.
I thought the idea might work, since it had those "tickling" fingers
at the ends of the long arms, and the smile on the face would be hidden
until you opened up the arms.

(From Ann Minner)
"Tickle sticks":
you could make what we make at holiday parties: the tickler.
use any diecut shape you like, staple it onto a chenille stick (long
colorful pipecleaner that is indispensable in craft time) and there you have
it! Kids can color the shape, add glitter or even feathers. It's simple but
the kids think it's cool.

(From Jenny Collier)
You could make a tickle stick -- use a Popsicle stick or dowel stick and
glue feathers to the end ... you could wrap ribbon around it and have some
trail off the end ... tie a bead to the end of each one ...

(From Penny Peck)
For a craft, it would
depend on the age group, but the kids could trace their hands (an important
skill for a 3-year-old to learn!), or make an octopus out of four
pipecleaners cut in half and glued to a puffball (similar to the popular
spider craft). Or make an octopus out of paper, or a Jesse Bear paperbag
puppet, or decorate a paper pizza (based on "Pete's a Pizza") with styrofoam
peanuts for cheese.

I hope I haven't forgotten any of the wonderful ideas that were sent my
way. Thanks to all!

JAn Wall

Youth Services Librarian
Latah County Library District
110 South Jefferson Street
Moscow ID 83843
fax: 208-882-5098
janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 17:54:10 -0500
From: "Katy Grant" <imzadi@thepoint.net>
Subject: RE:stumper-goblin poem

My apologies for the recent incorrect post. I checked with my Mom and she
set me straight on this poem.
James Whitcomb Riley is the author and the poem is "Little Orphant Annie."
The line the patron quoted is actually the last line of the poem. The full
poem is available at the following website:

http://almanac.mpr.org/poems/poem032.htm

Sorry for the confusion.

Katy Grant

- -----Original Message-----
From: Katy Grant [mailto:imzadi@thepoint.net]
Sent: Wednesday, October 13, 1999 10:02 PM
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: RE: pubyac V1 #846


I think you're patron could be looking for "Little Annie Rooney" by Walt
Whitman. I couldn't put my hands on a copy today but should be able to
tomorrow. Walt Whitman was an Indiana poet and I remember several
storytellers who used to come at Halloween for programs and they shared it
with us. I also remember hearing my Mom repeat several lines from this poem
when I was a kid.

Katy Grant
_______Original Message_____________________
Date: Mon, 11 Oct 1999 07:03:09 -0700 (PDT)
From: Ruth Shafer <shafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: stumper-goblin poem

Does anyone out there know where we might find the poem with the line:
The goblins will get you if you don't watch out.....

WE ahve a patron who remembers his father reading it to him in the early
1970's. He says it was in a book with lots of poems, not all goblinesc.

Would love some help.

THanks
Ruth Shafer
Vancouver WA

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Date: Thu, 14 Oct 1999 19:44:31 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: RE: nonprofessional vs. professional

On Tue, 12 Oct 1999, Su Epstein wrote:

I think it is sad, especially for librarians in a
> information focused field that we focus on the illusions of education
> rather than the realities.

Well, I've always thought ALA should get out of the accrediting-library
schools business and into the state-by-state "Librarian Exams". If you
pass, you pass, if you fail you fail - you may have the degree, but if you
didn't get the education, it won't do you any good.

Kirsten A. Edwards "It's 1999, of course they have a list of them
kirstedw@kcls.org on the Web, everything's on the Web these days,
when I was in school, we would have had to walk
to the LIBRARY and find a bunch of DEAD TREES
glued together on a DUSTY SHELF, and it would
have been OUT OF DATE ANYWAY!" - C.K. Davis

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