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Date: Fri, 22 Oct 1999 11:13:03 -0400 (EDT)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #859

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:07:05 -0400 (EDT)
From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: harry p tatoos

I think it's Time-Warner who owns the rights.

David



David Serchay
a013213t@bc.seflin.org


On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, Laurie Cowgill wrote:

> On getting tatoos from Scholastic: I called the rep in Oympia, WA who told
> me that the rights to Harry Potter had been purchased by . . . did she say
> Paramount . . . I can't recall. At any rate, they cannot send out
> lightening bolts or other items specific to Harry until they sort out what
> is public domain and what isn't. So that is the story I got anyway.
> Laurie in Kenai, AK
>
>

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:08:43 -0400
From: "Denise P. Stout" <dpstout@ccls.org>
Subject: RE: library newsletters

Robin and others! Please check out our library website at www.ccls.org;
click on About the Library; scroll down a bit and click on The Storyteller.
It's our monthly newsletter for outreach services. Please let me know what
YOU think. It's only our 4th or 5th issue and I could always use
suggestions! It's audience is day care centers, nursery schools, elementary
schools and our district children's librarians. More for people who work
with children and books.

Denise M. Pulgino Stout, Youth Services Outreach Librarian
Chester County Public Library
450 Exton Square Parkway
Exton PA 19341
610.280.2672

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:28:58 -0700
From: Jill Patterson <jpatterson@ci.glendora.ca.us>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter

So far, even in our conservative community, we have not received a
complaint about these books. I read the Harry Potter article on the FFL
site yesterday. IMHO, these books of fantasy are not so different from any
other fantasy title in its themes BUT because they are on the best seller
list (and it sure warms my heart to see them taking up the first 3 slots on
the NYT Best Sellers!) they are attracting enormous amounts of attention.
And thus, they are frightening parents who prefer to tightly control their
children's reading. I'm not ready to make a statement on FFL's points about
Harry Potter. I did look at the appended brief list of recommended titles
(and was disappointed that none of the Betsy-Tacy books by Maud Hart
Lovelace was listed) and, while many of the books are worthwhile, it is a
VERY limited list.
I can only say that I am very grateful my parents let me read whatever I
wanted when I was growing up.



At 02:40 PM 10/19/1999 -0500, you wrote:
>Have any of you had a problem with patrons asking for the removal of Harry
Potter books? I understand the concern is that the books seem to promote
death - hate - lack of respect and sheer evil. I have read all three of
the books and although I agree that these aspects are in each of the books,
I didin't have the feeling that these were the primary theme of the books.
>
>Dorothy@peabody.whitleynet.org
>
>
>
>

Jill Patterson jpatterson@ci.glendora.ca.us
Glendora Public Library 140 S. Glendora Ave. Glendora, CA 91741
Tel: 626/852-4896 FAX: 626/852-4899

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 11:55:48 -0700
From: Jean Hewlett <nbclsref@sonic.net>
Subject: Books like Harry Potter

This has been posted to pubyac before (not by me), but it is worth
saying again. People who like Harry Potter will probably also like these
books by Dianna Wynne Jones: Witch Week, Charmed Life, Lives of
Christopher Chant, Ogre Downstairs.

When I read the first Harry Potter book, I was immediatly struck by its
resemblance to the world Jones creates in her books. I think she must
have been a major influence on Harry's author. Although I love Harry, I
still think Jones' books are far more thought provoking and creative. At
present, most appear to be out of print in this country, but I hope the
Harry Potter craze will bring them back.

You might also try "A Wizard of Earthsea" by Ursula Leguine (sp?). It
has a wonderful description of life at a school for young wizards, very
different from Hogwarts and yet very similar.

Jean Hewlett
North Bay Cooperative Library System, Santa Rosa CA
nbclsref@sonic.net

All opinions are my own, and do not represent those of my employers.

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:32:45 -0400
From: "Candace E. Deisley" <deisleyc@uhls.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Harry Potter -- Readers' Theater

Do I remember correctly? Did someone have a Harry Potter play for
readers' theater??

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:33:34 -0400
From: "Candace E. Deisley" <deisleyc@uhls.lib.ny.us>
Subject: interfiling j and ya fiction

We're considering interfiling j and YA fiction in our new YOUTH SERVICES

room, since both collections are housed there anyway. We'd put stickers

on the Young Adult titles. Has anyone tried this? How did the kids
like it?

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:48:14 EDT
From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
Subject: Re: harry p tatoos

We are hopefully going to do some type of Harry Potter activity here and we
were thinking if we can't get our hands on the tattoos that we might have
someone who is artsy face paint them on the kids. Just another idea.

Ilene Lefkowitz (who is not artsy at all)
Youth Services Librarian
Mount Olive Public Library
ILefkowitz@aol.com

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 14:50:51 -0500
From: Karen Sutherland <ksutherland@bplib.org>
Subject: YA

Hi!

Our library board has asked that we poll other small public libraries
and get answers to
these questions. Can anyone help us?

Do you have a YA program?

What ages do you include?

What types of programming work best? What programs are most
well-attended?

Do you have an advisory board?

Do you use YA volunteers?

Do you have a separate staff member for Young Adults?

Is your YA collection housed in a separate place?

I would appreciate any response that you can give me. Thank you very
much. I will post synopsis of answers if there is interest. Thanks.

Sincerely,

Karen Sutherland
Bedford Park Public Library

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:24:36 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: nonprofessional vs. professional

>

A woman after my own heart; let's hear it for obfuscation! Language worth using is
language worth playing with. CBS

>
> Kirsten Edwards (Not sure of the value of all this heirarchy,
> kirstedw@kcls.org but always ripe for linguistic games)

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:30:09 -0400
From: Charles Schacht <schachtc@libcoop.net>
Subject: Re: In search of a wonder

Marilyn - this whole thing is more complicated than it would appear; one
wants something very appealing, hopefully up ini the air a little, cozy, but
which does NOT invite death defying leaps and give one's insurance company
nightmares. I will indeed post the end result of our ruminations and the
winner of the Hagen Das if such there be...

Chuck

Marilyn wrote:

> I saw a small conastoga wagon in one library & they said the children
> love to crawl up there & read. Another library has a series of
> birdhouses (child size, of course), but they left the tops off & the
> children can climb through them which is not a very safe. We have a
> fire engine with seats that our fire dept. made for us. I always
> thought a 'tree house' would be so much fun...not high, of course, but
> just a little off the ground with the illusion of being in the treetops.
> I think children like a cozy perch...I did as a child.
>
> Can't wait to hear all your suggestions & your final choice so I hope
> you keep us informed.
>
> Marilyn
> Mansfield Public

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 15:02:00 -0700
From: BOGART Debra S <dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us>
Subject: FW:How to Order Harry Potter kit

see below
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From: CustServ@Scholastic.com
To: dbogart@ci.springfield.or.us
Cc: bbogart@efn.org
Subject: RE: Comments and Suggestions
Date: Wednesday, October 20, 1999 2:16PM



IMPORTANT! If responding to a message from Customer Service, please make
sure previous correspondence is included in your reply.

Thank you for your recent inquiry. We would ask that you please request the
Harry Potter Activity Kit via mail. The materials are free of charge, and
will be shipped upon request. Please forward your request with a self
addressed adhesive label, and send to:

Harry Potter Activity Kit Offer
Attn. Sonya Bundridge
Scholastic, Inc.
555 Broadway
New York, NY
10012-3999

Please visit our Harry Potter web pages for more exciting Harry Potter
stuff! Please point your web browser to:
http://www.scholastic.com/harrypotter .

Please do not hesitate to contact Customer Service with any additional
questions or concerns you may have. And as always. . .Thank you for
choosing Scholastic!

Sincerely,
Douglas Robertson
Scholastic Customer Service
1-800-SCHOLASTIC

ATTENTION EDUCATORS! You may now check the status of your Scholastic Book
or Software Club orders online! From there, you will be able to see when
your order should arrive, what was actually shipped, where the order was
shipped to, shipping methods, as well as other important information. To
get started, all you need is your Customer Number. Don't know what it is?
>From our NEW Order Status web site, you can request your Customer Number, or
contact Customer Service with any questions or problems you may have.

Simply point your web browser to: http://service.scholastic.com/orderstatus

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:25:40 EDT
From: Susan259@aol.com
Subject: Re: ALA Removes Farrakhan Website After FF Notifies ADL

The difference is in the fact that ALA has stated guidelines for what will or
will not be considered for inclusion in this section of their website--I
don't have it in front of me, but if you read their selection policy
statement and look at the website in question, you can understand what
happened.

Susan Smith
susan259@aol.com
Children's Librarian

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 17:50:55 -0500
From: JEANEAL@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us
Subject: RE: Harry Potter

I have not had patrons who objected, but a librarian did. She thought it was
too bad that everyone is so excited about a book about witches and wizards. I
don't think she had read any of them. I think they are wonderful and am
anxiously awaiting the next one.

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 18:31:14 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: FW: Nation of Islam Link Removed because of Content.

On Tue, 19 Oct 1999, James Asbury wrote:

> This is one I agree with Jim Casey on. I had resisted calling it
> censorship until I read the reasoning behind the removal. Now, I don't
> see what else you can call it. It is censorship because an access point
> was removed due to disapproval of content, based on its point of view.
> Caroline Ward admitted as much. This is no different from taking a book
> like Heather Has Two Mommies out of the children's section and placing
> it in the adult section, or worse putting it behind the circ desk
> requiring parental permission to check it out.

:::smiling::: You vastly overrate both the power & prestige of
ALA. Nonetheless, having criteria for lists - be it booklists on paper or
lists generated as computer records - is not censorship. Even if the
criteria include making (gasp!) an ethical judgement, it is still not
censorship especially since those criteria are made explicit.

The beauty, freedom and yes, danger, of the internet lie in just such
actions as ALA took in modifying it's list of "recommended children's
websites" in response to compelling argument that the site did not match
the stated criteria. Only someone who for some reason chose to limit his
or her choices to what the ALA did or did not recommend is affected. And,
of course, only if they want to be.

I agree with the poster that confusing actual censorship with imaginary
wastes time and energy better employed in coping with the real thing.
Reality, unfortunately, is not optional [1]

> I resent David Burt using this issue as a crowing point, but just
> because he does doesn't mean it isn't censorship. We need to do
> something about it, not pretend it isn't what it is.

I don't resent this, I find it vastly amusing that he doesn't see the
irony inherent in doing so.

'Tchau!

Kirsten Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org

[1] Thank you Thomas Sowell! I'm currently making my way through his
CONQUESTS & CULTURES - even better than GUNS, GERMS & STEEL

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Date: Wed, 20 Oct 1999 23:28:13 -0400
From: "Sylvia Leigh Lambert" <leighladidah@gurlmail.com>
Subject: Goodbye Songs

Hi ya'll

Please share how you 'wrap up' your storytimes. What sort of 'Goodbye'--or 'see ya real soon' song(s)/activities do you use?

Thanks,
Leigh Lambert
leighladidah@gurlmail.com


get your free gURLmAIL at http://www.gURLmAIL.com

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 09:09:39 -0500 (CDT)
From: Maria Wegscheid <mwegsche@libby.rbls.lib.il.us>
Subject: teen readers' advisor

We have just started a new, temporary position of a teen readers' advisor.
The position was written to be filled and has been filled by a teen. I'm
having a news conference this afternoon and am still scrambling to get all
the information that I think they might want. To that end...

Does any public library that you know of have a teenager in a paid
position to do reader's advisory? Please respond ASAP, and thank you very
much.

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Maria J. Wegscheid
Bettendorf (IA) Public Library
2950 Learning Campus Dr
Bettendorf IA 52722
319-344-4188
mwegsche@libby.rbls.lib.il.us
Views expressed by the author do not necessarily represent those of the
Bettendorf Public Library.

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 11:35:33 EDT
From: LaceyDport@aol.com
Subject: Popular YA reference books?

Greetings, PUBYAC folks,

I'm a library student working on a project and would be *extremely* grateful
for any feedback from YA librarians about which reference books are most
popular among teens--for browsing and/or usefulness. Are there any books that
are regularly pulled off the shelves by teens for entertainment or
ready-reference?

I guess most people agree that Guiness Book of Records is a hot one. If
anyone can confirm that any of the following are popular too, that would be
helpful. Or if there's another book on the same topic that works better for
teens?

Guinness Book of Records
Panati's Extraordinary Origins of Everyday Things (and other Panati books)
Famous First Facts
World Almanac and Book of Facts
The New Rolling Stone Encyclopedia of Rock & Roll
Bartlett's Familiar Quotations (or are the books organized by subject more
fun for teens? like American Heritage or Columbia Dictionary?)
New York Public Library Desk Reference

Any suggestions are welcome for a Biography reference book, Film/Video guide,
Sports, History, Geography or any hot Dorling Kindersley reference books...

Thanks in advance! Please repond to me (Rebecca) directly at
LaceyDport@aol.com and if there is interest, I'd be happy to post a summary
of replies.

Rebecca Smith
Simmons GSLIS student

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 14:38:48 -0700
From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>
Subject: Children's books in Finnish?

Oh Wise Ones :)

Does anyone know of a source for children's books in Finnish? A publisher
that translates English/American imprints into Finnish? I've checked the
internet, InfoTrac and Ebscohost (in case there were articles written re:
Finnish sources.)

I saw some sites on the internet that MIGHT be what I'm looking for, but
since I can't read Finnish, I just don't know...

Thanks for any help you can give me.

Jan Wall
Youth Services Librarian
Latah County Library District
110 South Jefferson Street
Moscow ID 83843
fax: 208-882-5098
janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 15:52:04 -0600
From: "Amy Shelley" <AShelley@larm.lib.wy.us>
Subject: Re: Book topics

Archery and rugby





Amelia J. Shelley
Manager, Children's/Young Adult Services
Laramie County Library System
2800 Central Avenue
Cheyenne, WY 82001
(307)634-3561, ext. 151
ashelley@larm.lib.wy.us

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 18:04:58 -0700 (PDT)
From: Kirsten Edwards <kirstedw@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: Family Friendly Libraries Book Report: Should "Harry Potter" Go To Public School?

On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Don Wood wrote:

> Family Friendly Libraries Book Report: Should "Harry Potter" Go To
> Public School?
> http://www.fflibraries.org/HPRNo3.htm

Someone within the framework of the Christian faith needs to write these
people a kindly letter describing the difference between (1) "real" aka
modern wiccans and neo-pagans and (2) the make-believe, fairy-tale ones.
NOT that either is fair game to the censors, but they seem to have
confused the "not promoting" a specific religions in the classroom with
reading a fairy-tale or fantasy adventure.

By this standard, NO fairy-tale or fantasy is permissable in a class-room
setting.

Blech!

Kirsten Edwards
kirstedw@kcls.org

For a truly unhappy bit of irony, read on the the books that should
be read "instead of" Harry Potter...

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Date: Thu, 21 Oct 1999 16:41:30 -0500
From: "Don Wood" <dwood@ala.org>
Subject: Freedom to Read Foundation announces new web address

Freedom to Read Foundation announces new web address:

The Freedom to Read Foundation home page can be found at

http://www.ftrf.org/index.html

The site includes the Foundation's history, people, and projects;
information on legal issues regarding libraries; the First Amendment;
and more.

Please update your bookmarks and links to FTRF.

Also included is the new GIVE button, which allows FTRF to accept
online donations through a secure, third-party browser, using any
major credit card.


________________________
Don Wood
American Library Association
Office for Intellectual Freedom
50 East Huron Street
Chicago, IL 60611
800-545-2433, ext. 4225
Fax: 312-280-4227
dwood@ala.org
http://www.ala.org/oif.html

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