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Date: Tue, 9 Nov 1999 11:09:08 -0500 (EST)
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Date: Thu, 04 Nov 1999 22:10:32 -0500
From: Sharon <centans@tampabay.rr.com>
Subject: Re: school media or public librarianship
Hello,
I have tried both school libraries and public. It depends on what you like.
School librarians have better hours, but often do more storytimes. They also
spend
time teaching technology and sometimes run the school computer network, computer
lab and staff development.
Public librarians, on the other hand, work nights and weekends as part of their
regular
schedule. But they do not have to take large classes of students on a regular
basis.
Most public librarians do the same things over and over, as there are lots of
people
in the same dept. But branch librarians get a chance to do more of a variety of
tasks,
similar to school librarians. If you work in a large public library tho, you are
assigned only
a few things to do and the rest is someone else's job. So it all depends on what
you like
and you might want to try both before you decide. I have tried both and I like
school libraries
best, so I am getting certified as a Media Specialist in the state of Florida so
that I can
be a school Library Information Specialist.
Sharon Centanne
USFLIS
Powderpuffs@aol.com wrote:
> Hello,
> I am interested in becoming a librarian but am not sure whether I would
> like to be a school media specialist or public librarian. Would I be able
to
> get some insights from anyone on the listserv? Please send any info on what
> steps I may need to take in making my decision. Thank you.
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 07:08:51 EST
From: Naughyde@aol.com
Subject: Re: NCBW
In a message dated 11/4/1999 7:46:27 PM Central Standard Time,
owner-pubyac@nysernet.org writes:
<< "Linda Peterson" <lpeterson@bloomfield.lib.in.us>
wrote:
I too would like to know what everyone else is doing for CBW.<
The Houston Public Library has three major program strands running for NCBW.
Each branch library and the Central Library will be hosting a visit by a
professional theater group during the month of November. During NCBW itself,
each branch will host a day with a costumed character such as Spot, Curious
George, etc. Finally, all the characters will come together for a big end of
NCBW celebration at the Central Library on November 20. For more information,
see our NCBW webpage linked from: http://www.hpl.lib.tx.us/
Patrick Jones
Manager of Youth Programs
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:38:59 -0500
From: Sally Jeanne Kappler <sjk@curtislibrary.com>
Subject: Re: Which Library Studies Program?
I would suggest your friend look seriously at San Jose State. Blanche
Woolls, Dave Loertscher and I all did doctoral work together and, although
their professional activities have been in the school library media field,
I can't imagine that they would be involved in a program that wouldn't be
very strongly youth centered.
Sally Jeanne Kappler
Coordinator of Youth Services
Curtis Memorial Library
Brunswick ME 04011
At 12:50 PM 11/4/99 -0800, you wrote:
>An acquaintance (a friend of my brother's) has expressed interest in
>becoming a children's librarian and wanted to know which library schools
>have especially strong programs in youth services. She doesn't want to be a
>school media librarian. The last time I thought about library schools was
>14 years ago, so I'm calling upon the collective wisdom/experience of this
>group. She's a Calif. resident, so San Jose State is a natural choice, but
>she said she's willing to relocate if another program is excellent.
>
>Thanks in advance,
>Lin
>
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 05:06:18 -0800 (PST)
From: "Bernadette A. Boucher" <balibra76@yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: school media or public librarianship
Hello there,
> But they do not have to take large
> classes of students on a regular
> basis.
Having worked in public libraries also, I'd agree with
almost everything that was said except the above
comment. I've found that the use of the library by
classes of students really varies from pl to pl. One
library where I worked was right down the street from
a large elementary school in a school system where
library services were largely lacking, so teachers
frequently took the public librarian up on her offers
of programing, book talks, etc. for the students.
Whole classes of students would simply follow their
teacher down the road to the library. Many public
libraries attempt (or should attempt) to address
community needs, so examining the individual community
that you'll be working in is an important part of
understanding the type of work you may be doing.
Just 2 cents,
Bernadette :)
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"It's alright to 'like books' but a librarian should like people."
balibra76@yahoo.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 08:15:07 -0500
From: Su Epstein <SuE@gfacademy.org>
Subject: RE: Literature related activities - help
An idea....
Gather a collection of misc. house hold items - thimbles, spools
of thread, paper clips - ANYTHING - and run an activity that is to
choose an item and think of how the borrowers (i.e. tiny people) could
(or did) use it to help their life. Parents working with their kids or
in small groups, for 15 min or so, then even making a list that could be
shared with the whole group.
Su
Su Epstein
Director of Library Services
Greens Farms Academy
Greens Farms, CT
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:14:34 -0500
From: Ellen Snoeyenbos <ellens@ocln.org>
Subject: Re:
For Children's Book Week in our area a group of librarians is setting up a
square of tables with displays at
our local mall for one evening. My contribution as a YA librarian will hopefully
be a video talk show
hosted by a group of girls from Duxbury. We are taping it at the cable studio
next week and will bring the
tape to run continuously throughout the evening at the mall on a TV in the
library display area. Their talk
show will feature segments on book, movie, and music reviews, a teen consumer
reporter, and a feature on
Japanese animation (one of the girl's favorite topic). This format (video) lends
itself to easy creation
and the result (a tape) can be played in many venues with parental permission,
of course. My permission
forms include permission for taping, permission to use the tape to promote the
library, and permission to
run the show at the mall CBW event. We've done something like this once before,
but I'm curious about how
the "talk show" will fly. Teens and video production are a natural
mix, though, I have found.
Ellen Snoeyenbos Duxbury Free Library, Duxbury, MA
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 08:54:20 -0500
From: Marcia Schaffer <schaffma@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: Frindle Booktalk
Hi! I am Marcia Schaffer, Children's person here in Carroll County. We
are starting this book in January with my 4th and 5th graders coming to the
library. I am planning on having the kids make up words and voting on the
ones we think are the most likely to succeed. Then, the classes will use
them at school and church, etc, and see if we can get a word or two added
to our local slang. It should be interesting! Don't know if it will work
but I'm looking forward to seeing the words!
Good Luck with your program.
At 03:39 PM 11/2/99 -0500, you wrote:
>Our book group is reading Frindle and I am looking for any activities that
>we can do for fun. (Ages 8-10) Has anyone used this delightful book in a
>group discussion and maybe have some ideas to share? Thank you. Anne Hall
>
>Anne & Roger Hall
>Berea, Kentucky
>
>
>
Smiles,
Marcia ;)
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:00:25 -0500
From: Kate McLean <mcleank@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: Re: New Year's/holiday storytime
I do a New year's party for young children at noon on the 31st. I've done
puppet shows and stories, we've leaped into the new year, we've run through
a paper banner that says the new date. A colleague has a countdown and
they drop a big book (not real). But my favorite activity is confetti
bags. The children tear up scrap paper into tiny bits (the samller the
better for your vaccuum), and put them in a paper lunch bag. Then we blow
them up and pop them! I also gave out "Serpentines" those curly
streamers
(about $1.50 at the local party store for 30). Last year we had a story
and just did the confetti bags because the kids had so much fun dancing
around in the confetti!
Enjoy!!
Kate McLean
Tucker-Reid H. Cofer Library
DeKalb County Public Libraries, GA
mcleank@mail.dekalb.public.lib.ga.us
"My opinions are my own."
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 07:59:52 -0700
From: Carolyn Groves Winkler <cgroves@will.state.wy.us>
Subject: Thanks for posting the Christian Harry Potter radio show commentary
Thanks for the useful information, Mark. I appreciate you taking the time
to share this with us all on Pubyac.
In case any of you missed it, it was a radio show commentary by Charles
Colson -- telling Christians why Harry Potter isn't so bad. It has some
great points to share with concerned parents.
Carolyn Groves Winkler, MLS
Teton County Library
Jackson, WY
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 10:13:14 -0500
From: Simpson <jsimpson03@snet.net>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter question
We have multiple copies of the Harry Potter books in the Children's
Dept, not YA. Altho that's figuratively speaking - currently a patron
needs to put the books on reserve because they are always checked out.
Teens ask for the books, and don't mind coming to Children's to ask for
them.
Interestingly, when the first Potter book came out, before the
phenomenon caught on, the on-line catalog would say the book (we owned 1
copy at the time) was on shelf, but we couldn't find it. We figured out
that the circ pages were filing it with the Adult new books, simply
because of the number of pages it had - they couldn't believe a book
that long belonged in Children's.
When the third book came out,- all 400 pages of it - instead of shying
away, kids are saying, "Oh boy - more Harry Potter to read!"
Martha Simpson, Stratford (CT) Library
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 09:08:25 -0800
From: Beth Coughlin <coughlin@noblenet.org>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter question
Cheryl McConnell wrote:
>
> In our library the Harry Potter books are part of our YA collection (5th
> through 12th grade). The Children's Librarian and I have discussed
> moving them to the juvenile collection but we are not sure if we really
> want to do that. I'm curious as to where other libraries keep these
> books. Are they part of the juvenile collection or Young Adult? I'ld
> appreciate any response.
>
> Cheryl
> mcconnc@mid-pen.lib.mi.us
We have most of ours in juvenile since we consider the Children's
room to cover up to grade 6. We did put one Paperback of first
Harry Potter in YA since some older kids are interested in it
too.
Beth Coughlin, Children's Librarian
Swampscott Public Library, MA
coughlin@noblenet.org
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 10:30:10 -0500
From: "Brenda S. Evans" <chroom@seidata.com>
Subject: Re: Literature related activities - help
How about making dioramas in shoeboxes using recyclable trash to make a
home for the Borrowers. The children could get creative using scraps of
wallpaper, old thread spools, etc. to make the furniture. I think it would
be fun for them.
Hope this helps.
Brenda S. Evans
Madison-Jefferson County Public Library
420 West Main Street
Madison, Indiana 47250
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:46:54 -0600
From: Andrea Johnson <ajohnson@cooklib.org>
Subject: RE: storytime themes
One of my colleagues sometimes does a storytime from what she calls the
"Surprise Box". She's got a box wrapped in wrapping paper, in which
she
puts a bunch of her favorite things, and just tells the kids, "Let's see
what the Surprise Box has for us today." She says the kids really love it,
and it works well when she's pressed for time and hasn't come up with a
theme.
Andrea Johnson
Children's librarian
Cook Memorial Library
Libertyville, IL
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 11:48:16 -0500 (EST)
From: Judith Albert <jalbert@ashland.edu>
Subject: Re: school media or public librarianship
Hello,
Comments on the last posting:
Do not go into school librarianship thinking you will have lots of free
time during the day, and good hours. The reality is that many school
librarians teach full loads, the same as classroom teachers. I have just
retired from a career as an elementary librarian. Here is an overview:
I taught 26-28 classes a week, depending on our enrollment. Each class in
the building, K-12, including pre-first and special education, was
scheduled for a 30-45 minute library period every week. During this time,
I presented a library skills lesson or story and the students selected and
checked out books. The classroom teacher was not present - I was his/her
prep period. In addition to this schedule, the library remained open at
all times when school was in session, for any other students or faculty to
use the resources. I was expected to be available at all times, excepting
a 30 minute lunch period.
I was the only staff person in the library. I did a full-time teaching
job, and a full-time library administration job - collection development,
acquisitions, cataloging/processing, circulation, collection maintenance,
budget expenditure, and other duties as necessary. I was fortunate to
have a very good crew of parent volunteers, but it took me at least five
years to develop that.
As a faculty member, I was expected to be an active member of the faculty,
taking the same responsibilities as classroom teachers, including bus
duty,
supervising of students at special assemblies, service on professional
committees within the school building and within the school district,
being present for parent conferences, PTO meetings, etc.
Any teacher knows that the hours on paper look like gravy, but the reality
is that you arrive early, stay late, and take work home every evening.
Many week-ends are also devoted to projects which don't get done during
the week. One additional aspect of the library situation is that the
library facility itself becomes the meeting facility for groups and
committees. If such a meeting was held in the library after-hours, I was
unable to stay and work late.
I was fortunate to work in a good school district with wonderful kids and
parents. I do not mean to sound negative about the experience at all; I
just needed to show the "other side" of public education, as the
general
public truly thinks that educators have it easy. Anyone considering
entering the field needs to know the reality up front.
Judy Albert, Reference Librarian
Ashland University
Ashland, OH 44805
419-289-5427 (voice)
419-289-5422 (fax)
jalbert@ashland.edu
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 14:02:14 EST
From: ILefkowitz@aol.com
Subject: Re: Where to shelve Harry Potter
We have the Harry Potter Books in with the Juv Fiction. However, I do
believe that this is a case where it is a good thing to have in both areas.
Some YAs will want to read Harry but will never be caught dead going into the
children's room to get it. As a side note, our young women's book group
(formerly called the Mother-Daughter Book Group) voted to read Harry Potter
for their December meeting and open it up to all the boys too. The girls are
in grades five through eight.
Ilene Lefkowitz
Youth Services Librarian
Mount Olive Public Library
ILefkowitz@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 09:59:04 -0800
From: Laura Whaley <WHALEYL@santacruzpl.org>
Subject: RE: my school says no to harry
I'm truly sorry for your students Carol; and you. I'm hopeful that as the
millenium hysteria passes and we are all still here that "this get right
with your maker" mentality fades back to the personal arena and out of the
public. If its any consolation the same "morality mania" afflected
Europe
during the years just prior to 1000 CE.
Laura
Rem tene; verba sequentur.
Cato the Elder
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 14:56:03 -0500 (EST)
From: DEBORAH BRUCE <s_dbruce@MAIL.CLARION.EDU>
Subject: challenged books
Hi!
I'm a library student, and I'm writing a paper on books that were
challenged in a local library. I was hoping somebody out there would be
willing to tell me if they have also had problems with the books, and what
they thought of them personally. The books in question are "Where Did I
Come From?" and "What's Happening To Me?" both by Peter Mayle.
TIA
Deb Bruce
Clarion University
s_dbruce@clarion.edu
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:58:54 -0500
From: Bryce <Bryce@exchg1.palsplus.org>
Subject: RE: Which Library Studies Program?
St. John's University in Queens, NY has an excellent youth services program.
Marilyn Kaye, author of The Real Tooth Fairy and the currently popular
Replica series is one of the professors. I took 7 of her courses and all
were excellent! Hope this helps!
Richard Bryce
Senior Children's Librarian
West Milford Township Library
973-728-2823
"And it was always said of him that he knew how to keep Christmas
well...and
so as Tiny Tim observed, 'God Bless Us All, Everyone!'" (Charles Dickens'
"A
Christmas Carol")
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Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:37:49 -0600
From: "Hicks, Marcia" <MHardmon@ci.greenville.tx.us>
Subject: Date: Fri, 5 Nov 1999 15:37:49 -0600
CBW Celebration:
Each year we have a Bookmark Design Contest to promote Children's Book
Week. We award 1st, 2nd, and 3rd place prizes (new books) to the
winners. In addition, our local paper runs the winners' photos, and the
Friends of the Library pay to have the first place winner's bookmark
mass produced to be used as the official bookmark of the Children's
Library for the coming year. It has become very popular over the last
few years and is a lot fun. We also have the bonus of an "official"
bookmark for our department.
Marcia Hicks
Children's Librarian
W. Walworth Harrison Public Library
Greenville, TX 75401
mhardmon@ci.greenville.tx.us <mailto:mhardmon@ci.greenville.tx.us>
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 17:39:59 -0600
From: "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>
Subject: CD ornaments
Just found a wreath made of CDs at the following...
http://www.makestuff.com/cd_wreath.html
grace
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Date: Fri, 05 Nov 1999 17:57:14 -0600
From: "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>
Subject: CDs
Found another couple of ideas...
http://www.geocities.com/SoHo/Gallery/2476/craft5.htm
http://www.theideabox.com/ideas.nsf/craft?OpenView&Start=59
grace
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 10:25:18 -0500
From: MCCREIGHTB@charleston.lib.sc.us
Subject: RE: pubyac V1 #873
re: Children's Book Week
...which is also Nat'l Education Week, and also Nat'l Storytelling Week.
We have the posters and paraphernalia per usual at the Library, and we
are conducting a Mock Caldecott that Friday, too, besides the regularly
scheduled progams (Wee Reads, Time-for-Twos, Pre-School Storytime, Outreach).
In addition to that, several of us from The Storytelling Troupe of Charleston
will visit area school to tell tales to various grades throughout the week.
I have four schools ranging from grades K-6. That weekend of 19-21 Nov.
also will be the worldwide event called "Tellabration!" of some 350 or
so
sites around the world (and probably one near you) where tellers of all kinds
will be spinning yarns for adults as well as children. In fact, the emphasis
is on the adults to come listen to the age-old art of storytelling, because
after all, storytelling IS NOT JUST "entertainment for children". To
find
out more on "Tellabration" go to: storynet.com If you're looking to
have storytellers at your library or school, then coordinate this same week
into Children's Book/Education/Storytelling. ...just one man talking...
Brian McCreight, Children's Librarian, Charleston County Library
"Lowcountry Liar" & Yarnspinner, with no strings attached!
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:29:18 CST
From: "Jennifer Bromann" <bromannj@hotmail.com>
Subject: Fairy Tale Chapter Books
Our Children's Book Week theme is Fairy Tales, and I would like to display
fairy tales for all ages, including chapter books. They can be legends or
folk tales, too. Here is what I have so far. Please let me know if you
have any other fairy tale suggestions that are chapter books or for older
readers.
(Authors)
Jane Yolen
Gail Carson Levine
Donna Jo Napoli
Robin McKinley
(Books)
Tales from the Brothers Grimm and the Sisters Weird (Vande Velfde)
I am Mordred (Springer)
The Thief (Turner)
The Squires Tale (Morris)
Thanks
Jennifer Bromann
Prairie Trails Public Library
Burbank, IL
bromannj@hotmail.com
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 11:08:53 -0500
From: Catherine Quattlebaum <quattlec@mail.wilkes.public.lib.ga.us>
Subject: stumper--Mouse follows directions
"A picture book where the main character (maybe a moose, maybe not)
receives a package with parts to assemble. Several of his friends help
him, and then create several different objects..a car, a boat...In the
end
they read the instructions and assemble the pieces correctly"
I think this is NO PROBLEM by Eileen Brown. It's really cute. Fuzzy
little woodland creatures try to help Mouse put together a gift he got
in the mail. Shrew finally figures it out by following the directions.
Hope this helps! catherine q
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Date: Sun, 24 Oct 1999 00:20:04 GMT
From: "Rebecca Smith" <rsps@hotmail.com>
Subject: ffl article
On Thursday 21 Oct 1999, Kirsten Edwards wrote:
>On Wed, 20 Oct 1999, Don Wood wrote:
>>Family Friendly Libraries Book Report: Should "Harry Potter"
Go To
>>Public School?
> >http://www.fflibraries.org/HPRNo3.htm
>Someone within the framework of the Christian faith needs to write these
>people a kindly letter describing the difference between (1)
"real" >aka
>modern wiccans and neo-pagans and (2) the make-believe, fairy-tale >ones.
NOT that either is fair game to the censors, but they seem to have
>confused the "not promoting" a specific religions in the classroom
with
>reading a fairy-tale or fantasy adventure.
Or better yet, get a practasing wiccan to explain that Harry Potter is NOT
worshipping their Goddess
*********
Rebecca S. Smith, MLS
San Diego Public Library
Branch Libraries Division
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:17:13 EST
From: Susan259@aol.com
Subject: Re: Harry Potter Programs and demand
I have been told the same things--so I am saving all the wonderful ideas for
programs and waiting. . .
Anyway, I think perhaps this way, many more will have read the books and want to
attend!
Susan Smith
susan259@aol.com
Children's Librarian
Woodland West Branch
Arlington Public Library
Arlington, Texas
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Date: Sat, 06 Nov 1999 09:18:45 -0800
From: "Karen Delshad" <Karen-Delshad@CI.SANTA-MONICA.CA.US>
Subject: Re: Frindle Booktalk
I had great time discussing FRINDLE with a group of about 10 kids ages 8-10. We
purchased some inexpensive "frindles" to hand out to each participant
before we began our discussion. We made up our own words, talked about tradition
and standards, conformity, curiosity and creativity, the power of the media and
commerce - this little book brought out many issues! We were all moved by the
character of Mrs. Granger and spent a good deal of time discussing our reactions
to her. Everyone enjoyed the book for its humor and ideas and especially having
a chance to write their own invented word on a blackboard and proudly share its
meaning.
Hope this helps. Have fun!
Karen Delshad
Santa Monica Public Library
Santa Monica, CA
>>> <rdhall@mail.cinetwork.com> 11/02/99 12:39PM >>>
Our book group is reading Frindle and I am looking for any activities that
we can do for fun. (Ages 8-10) Has anyone used this delightful book in a
group discussion and maybe have some ideas to share? Thank you. Anne Hall
Anne & Roger Hall
Berea, Kentucky
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 12:47:36 -0800
From: hedy_harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us
Subject: Re:my school says no to harry
Reply to Carol Thornton:If you have been there for 11 years and now they don't
trust your judgement it may be time to move on. But that is not always the
answer!
I am a Christian but do not always agree with the religious right. Are there
other parents that can back you up in your efforts? If you have parental
support that you can document and present it to your library director it will
make a BIG difference. Did you read the excerpts from last week's Harry
Potter discussion...I printed it out for my staff to read. I tried sending it
directly to you but the e-mail bounced. Good Luck!
Hedy L. Harrison
hedy_harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us
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Date: Sat, 6 Nov 1999 16:44:47 -0500 (EST)
From: Mark Gochnour <gochnm@mont.lib.md.us>
Subject: Re: Harry Potter Programs and demand
Why create a further demand for those who are unable to get the books
right away? However, are we depriving those who have read the opportunity
to gather and celebrate some good stories?
I have decided that we won't be doing anything here where I work for
awhile and have gotten the idea with 200 plus holds on each book that its
not a good idea for the system right now. I don't think anyone else is
planning anything yet.
Mark S. Gochnour <gochnm@mont.lib.md.us>
Children's Librarian
Poolesville Library
Montgomery County (Maryland) Dept. of Public Libraries
The opinions expressed do not necessarily reflect those of my
organization.
On Wed, 3 Nov 1999, Lewenstein, Esther wrote:
> I was wondering, with the great demand for Harry Potter books, are people
> hesitant to program around the books? My supervisor felt it was unwise to
> do a Harry Potter program, since we have no way of keeping the books on
> shelf and couldn't circulate the books at the program or guaruntee that the
> patrons would be able to get at the books.
> I was just wondering how people felt about it.
> Esther Lewenstein
> Brooklyn Public Library
>
>
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