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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 20:09:01 -0500 (EST)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #895

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:08:02 -0500
From: "Heau, Karen" <KHeau@Queenslibrary.org>
Subject: chess books

Our library has been hosting a successful chess club for children and young
adults. A local chess organization has generously donated several hundred
dollars to be used to support chess programs for youth in the library. We
would like to apply the money to purchase reference books and beginners
books on chess. Since my knowledge of the game is woefully limited, do any
of you out there know of a good chess encyclopedia and other suitable books
on chess for upper elementary or junior high school level?

Thanks in advance --
Karen Heau
Flushing Library
Queens Borough Public Library

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:13:43 -0800 (PST)
From: Tracey Love <tcywork@yahoo.com>
Subject: program ideas needed--book-making

I will soon be doing a program with kids ages 4-7, in
which we will be making (writing, illustrating and
binding) our own books. I would love to hear about
any successful (and even unsuccessful) programs that
you've done on this topic. I will post responses to
the list if there is any interest.

Thank you in advance.

Tracey Dittoe
Lane Public Library
Hamilton, OH
tcywork@yahoo.com
dittoetr@oplin.lib.oh.us


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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:07:37 -0500
From: HFL_LISA@stls.org
Subject: RE: Pokemon programs

Children come to trade cards POKEMON CLUB. Children come to trade cards,
link gameboys and play etc. We had 487 children show up! It was
fabulous but it was crazy! We did not advertising, just one flyer given
out in town. We are part of a county and co op system and we did not
even send it to any of the branches and we still got that many kids. We do it
every 6-8 weeks now. Saturdays for 2 hours and have never had less than 300 children. They are very well behaved we do not put on extra staff-just 2 people
at circ and a couple to help out. But the kids are self contained-they know what they are doing and just hang out trading etc. We allow NO selling of
any merchandise or cards-trading only-you need to make that clear. We also
tell people to only bring what they are willing to trade or show because we
for lost cards etc. It really is a great time to promote your other programs.
deal with all the parents who come in etc. We have gotten great press
coverage, both TV and newspaper. Best of all we lure in the 10-12 year
olds who might not htink the library is so much fun anymore. So go for it-
but be prepared!

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 12:48:26 PST
From: "Dana Lubow" <danalubow@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: help needed

If you go to the Librarians' Index to the Internet
(http://sunsite.berkeley.edu/InternetIndex/) and search under Children's
Literature there are 26 listings, and a search under Kids brings up 74. Hope
this helps.
Dana Lubow
L.A. Valley College
danalubow@hotmail.com

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:27:07 -0500 (EST)
From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org>
Subject: Re: Historical Fiction

Continuing with this, what about a book written in say, the 1870s, which
is also set then. Is it now "historical"

David Serchay
Deerfield Beach Library


David Serchay
a013213t@bc.seflin.org


On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, RoseMary Honnold wrote:

> History depends on how old you are *HAHA* For my collection, I put
> historical stickers on all the fiction that had settings during or before
> the Viet Nam War. If you look at the subject headings inside the book, you
> can get an idea if the theme is historical.
> RoseMary
> Coshocton Public Library
>
>

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 14:12:35 -0500 (EST)
From: kay bowes <kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu>
Subject: Re: help needed

Mary,
I just went to a workshop about websites for children's librarians
presented by Dan Ream (sponsored by Palinet). I have some excellent
websites that were presented at that workshop.
Children's Book Council -- www.cbcbooks.org/navigation/teachers.htm
Kids Report -- kids.library.wisc.edu/
KidsClick! Web Search -- sunsite.berkeley.edu/KidsClick!/
LibraryLand -- sunsite.berkeley.edu/LibraryLand/cen/cens.htm
Librarians Only -- www.alltogethernow.org/hi/hi.htm
Children's Literature Web Guide -- www.acs.ucalgary.ca/~dkbrown/index.html
vandergrift's special Interest Page --
www.scils.rutgers.edu/special/kay/kayhp2.html
You are probably already familiar with most of these. Hope this helps.

Kay Bowes
Concord Pike Library
Wilmington, DE
kbowes@tipcat.dtcc.edu

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:06:32 -0600
From: "Grace Slaughter" <gslaughter@bham.lib.al.us>
Subject: Pokemon program

If you want a craft for your program, there are directions for beadie
critters of all the Pokemon characters/critters:

http://beadiecritters.hosting4less.com/Pokemon.htm

...and also a craft using tp rolls at:

http://www.members.home.net/samthecat/pokemon.html

Have fun!

grace

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:40:48 -0700 (MST)
From: Maggi Rohde <maggi@intranet.org>
Subject: Re: Nursing area in the library

On Sat, 20 Nov 1999, Susan Anderson-Newham wrote:
> As a former nursing mother, I resented the idea of being expected to
> nurse in the bathroom. (Unless there was a separate area from the
> toilet.) We would never ask adults to eat while staring at the toilet,
> so why should infants have to? And most bathrooms are most
> uncomfortable for the mother. I think the idea of a small area that is
> somewhat private is wonderful, and very family oriented! Susan

Thanks for speaking up, Susan. I work as a doula (professional labor
support person) and have heard many unhappy stories from mothers who have
been asked to nurse "somewhere else" because the person isn't comfortable
seeing a mother nurse her child in public. Unfortunately, there seldom is
any place the mother can go other than the bathroom! (What a yucky place
to ask anyone to eat.)

I also think having a private area for mothers to nurse and care for
their children is an absolutely excellent idea for libraries. (Our church
has a soundproof area with a window where parents can retreat with crying
babies and still listen to the piped-in service -- something like that.)

-maggi

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:36:43 -0500
From: Rosemarie Grainer <casseri@juno.com>
Subject: Re: uplifting Holocaust fiction

Dear all,
I was a teenager when I read _The Hiding Place_ by Corrie Ten Boom, a
Christian (?Catholic?) who was eventually put into a concentration camp
for her efforts to smuggle Jews out of Nazi-occupied Poland. This book
was really inspiring to me. I could identify with the girl when she
started her story, but then it started to seem so "other-worldly" to me,
as if something like this could never have happened. To have people
thanking God for the flea infestation, and then finding the infestation a
blessing was truly amazing. I don't think I have ever been so moved by a
story in my whole life. The most incredible part to me was that it was
all true. It scared me and upset me, as well.
Rosemarie Grainer


Rosemarie Grainer, Reference/Young Adult Librarian
Olean Public Library, 134 N. 2nd St., Olean, NY 14760
716/372-0200; casseri@juno.com

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:15:05 PST
From: "Tracy VanderPol" <tvanderpol@hotmail.com>
Subject: Re: home soil

Lorie,

I should have clarified myself. I mean that we, the living american people,
have never truely witnessed the devistation to civilian life and liberty
that is sustained in modern warfare, e.g. Bosnia, Iraq, Vietnam. I am
familiar with the vietnam war, but feel that my life has not been impacted
by it in the same way as Ethnic ALbanians in Kosavo. I wanted to comment on
how easy our life (especially under 30) in American has really been. We are
often shield from the harsh reality, because it is ugly or unpleasent. IMHO.

Tracy


- ----Original Message Follows----
From: Lorie <odonnell@borg.com>
Reply-To: pubyac@nysernet.org
To: pubyac@nysernet.org
Subject: Re: home soil
Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:27:32 -0500


Tracy,
I have seen/observed the disney syndrome as well, but how can you say the US
has never seen war on its home soil? We have had several wars here, and
many
Americans have died on our home soil! Although we are a young country,
comparatively speaking, the US has had its share of trauma, tragedy and war.
I do hope there are not people out there teaching this to children!!

Lorie

Tracy VanderPol wrote:

> I found it offensive as well. I have heard it called the American Disney
> Syndrome- (A culture that has never seen war on its home soil, wants to
> assign it a happy ending). Once in college while discussing a Bruno
> Bettlehiem essay, my professor mentioned that they had added happy
thoughts
> to the end of Ann Frank's diary for the movie to make it more popular.
> Twisted? Yes, but a request is still a request.
> IMHO.
>
> Tracy VanderPol
> Young Adult Librarian
> Brighton District Library

- --
Lorie O'Donnell
odonnell@borg.com

"All that is, comes from the mind; it is based
on the mind, it is fashioned by the mind." from The Pali Canon




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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 15:47:22 -0800 (PST)
From: Ruth Shafer <shafer@fvrl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: Re: school book club

Hi folks,
I've been asked to do a cooperative book club (after school thing) with
one of our local elem. schools. The book club is for 3-5 grade (not great
readers). Do any of you have great ideas for topics or format?
Thanks in advance

Ruth Shafer
Vancouver, Washington

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 17:12:03 -0800 (PST)
From: Carolyn Grant <cgrant@tpl.lib.wa.us>
Subject: YA ideas

I have been watching all of the information on PUBYAC about different
types of youth activities. I have been running a Team Read for 5 through
8th graders, done with the help of volunteers.
This program is getting too expensive for us to continue and we are
looking for ideas.
I would very much like to know what others are doing. My hope is to
attract high school students also to this new club.
What I would really like to know is how you attract kids to your
activities, how often do you meet, what activities are they allowed to do,
what kind of help do you have to run your clubs.

My ideas include newsletters to be posted in the library and possibly on
the internet, reader's advisory, assigned reading and reporting to group,
etc.

Please e-mail me directly. I have my first meeting next month to decide
what kind of changes will be made and would like to include as many ideas
as I can at this meeting.

Thank you

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 08:35:22 -0800
From: David Burt <dburt@afo.net>
Subject: Re: She Said Yes

"Loney, Stephanie" wrote:

> Librarians need to be aware that the authenticity of Misty's answer and
> final moments has been called into question by a survivor of the shooting.
> Misty, it seems, was not the girl who was asked that question. Another girl
> close by was, answered it, survived the shooting and now witnesses a slight
> fabrication make the bestseller list.
> People magazine ran an interview with the girl a few weeks after the book
> was published. I wonder would the book have been published if the truth had
> been known? Just a thought.
> Stephanie Loney
> Chula Vista Public Library

Not exactly. There are differing accounts of what happened, as this news story
describes:

Bernall's Family Recount Efforts to Achieve Accuracy in Book
By Art Toalston
CNS News from BP
29 September, 1999

Littleton, CO (BP) -The parents of Cassie Bernall have recounted their efforts
to achieve accuracy in a book about their
teenage daughter who was internationally called a martyr after being killed at
Columbine High School.

The book by Cassie's mother, Misty Bernall -- "She Said Yes: The Unlikely
Martyrdom of Cassie Bernall" -- was challenged in
several media accounts in late September suggesting that another Columbine
student, Valeen Schnurr, had actually voiced the
now-famous "Yes" to a student-gunman's taunt of whether she believed in God.

Chris Zimmerman, an editor with Plough Publishing House which released the book
Sept. 10, said in a September 25 news
release: "Misty Bernall's description as printed in 'She Said Yes' is based on
interviews with numerous survivors of the library [at
Columbine, a prime scene of carnage in the April 20 tragedy] and takes into
account their varying recollections."

Schnurr, 18, who survived a shotgun blast in the library where 17-year-old
Cassie also was slain, was interviewed twice for the
book while it was being developed, Zimmerman said, and indeed her story is
different from Cassie's.

"We interviewed teens who heard both conversations," Zimmerman said, noting
that Schnurr's story is included in the book.

Misty Bernall, in the news release, said she was well into writing the book
when notified of differing accounts of her daughter's
death. "At that point we stopped work and reinterviewed several witnesses,"
Misty Bernall said. "We strove to tell our daughter's
story as honestly as
we possibly could."

The Bernalls, in a statement quoted in the Denver Post, recounted similarly,
"It was five or six weeks after Cassie's death and
well into the book when we were notified of the differing accounts. At that
point, we stopped work [and] reinterviewed witnesses,
and upon their reconfirmation, added in the book's front a note from the
publisher acknowledging the differing accounts and then
continued our work."

The Bernalls added in their statement, "April 20 was a small part of the book.
Our intent was to share Cassie's story in an effort
to encourage parents and teenagers ... . If any of our actions have hurt or
offended anyone, we sincerely apologize."

Zimmerman, in the Plough news release, stated: "Questions about the particulars
of what transpired in the library do not detract
from the crux of [Misty] Bernall's book, which is Cassie's transformation from
a troubled teen who at one time entertained
murderous fantasies to a young woman ready to face both life and death with
confidence."

The book recounts various tough-love steps the Bernalls took to rescue their
daughter from drugs, alcohol use, witchcraft and
similarly wayward peers in Littleton, a Denver suburb. The only activity the
Bernalls allowed for Cassie was involvement in the
youth group at Littleton's West Bowles Community Church.

Schnurr, in a separate wire report, meanwhile, said she has no idea whether
Bernall was asked the same question she (Schnurr)
had been asked about whether she believed in God.

"I don't want to be famous or deemed anything," Schnurr, now a college student,
was quoted as saying. "I said I believed in God
out of respect for myself and respect for God. That's it." Schnurr was active
at Littleton's St. Francis Cabrini Catholic Church.

According to the news account, Schnurr, after being struck by a shotgun blast
by one of the two student gunmen, pleaded, "Oh my
God, oh my God, don't let me die," and was then prodded by one of the gunmen
whether she believed in God, and she said yes.
Schnurr said she crawled away as the gunman reloaded and was not shot again.

The story additionally reported that police have recounted that a student who
aided authorities in retracing the chaos in the library
became sick when he realized it was Miss Schnurr's table, not Miss Bernall's,
that he was pointing out in describing the exchange
between the gunman and the
victim.

"We have conflicting witness statements from several kids who were in the
library," sheriff's spokesman Steve Davis was quoted
in the story as saying. "But this is not something we're out to prove or
disprove. It's not really a part of the investigation we're
doing."

The varied and changing accounts from teenagers who witnessed the library
carnage are not surprising, Davis told the Denver
Post. "That's why we do more than one interview,'' he said. "They remember
things one way right after, and a different way later
on. We just try to corroborate what we can and piece it all together.''

Columbine student Emily Wyant, for example, who was said to be hiding near
where Bernall was gunned down, was interviewed
for Misty Bernall's book and never disputed the original accounts of Cassie's
death, the Plough news release recounted. Now,
however, Wyant has said she doesn't believe Cassie ever exchanged words with
her killer.

"We are surprised by Emily's new account," Brad Bernall, Cassie's father, said
in the Plough release. "It is inconsistent with the
one we received from her and her parents earlier." Because of the trauma from
the carnage and chaos in the library, Zimmerman
added, "It doesn't surprise me
that she [Wyant] doesn't remember any conversation."

Wyant's mother, Cindie, told the Denver Post, meanwhile, "That's her memory.
That's her truth. She doesn't want to stir anything
up, but that's how she remembers it.''

Joshua Lapp, another of the students in the library, has not changed his
account of Bernall's witness for her faith, according to a
report in the Denver Rocky Mountain News carried by Reuters news service.

Cassie Bernall and 11 other students and a teacher were killed April 20 at
Columbine when two gun- and bomb-wielding
classmates, Eric Harris and Dylan Klebold, staged their siege before taking
their own lives, also in the library.

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 13:44:39 -0500 (EST)
From: McLean <kmclea@suffolk.lib.ny.us>
Subject: Re: Pokemon programs

A librarian where I work had a Pokemon film festival on a Saturday
afternoon that lasted about 4 hrs. The library had a really great turnout.

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* Kimberly McLean *
* Children Services *
* Longwood Public Library *
* 800 Middle Country Road *
* Middle Island, New York *
* 11953 *
* (516) 924-6400 *
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On Fri, 19 Nov 1999, Banner, Helen wrote:

> We are looking into setting up a Pokemon event. Has anyone tried this
> and if so do you have any advice or know of any unforeseen problems we
> might run across? Please send responses to hbanner@ci.greenville.tx.us.
> Thanks!
>
> Helen Banner
> W. Walworth Harrison Public Library
> Greenville, TX 75401
>

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:25:42 -0600 (CST)
From: "Catherine E. Ingram" <ceingram@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us>
Subject: Re: She Said Yes

For those that are interested...

Who said "Yes"?
http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/09/30/bernall/index.html

On Tue, 23 Nov 1999 BROWN@TLC.LIB.OH.US wrote:
> Did anybody see the recent online article in SALON that disputes the factuality
> of this popular, uplifting but politically manipulable tale? The writer

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 17:23:52 -0500
From: "Bob & Dian Borek" <borek@home.com>
Subject: SUMMER READING CLUBS

This may seem a little early, but we are planning our Summer
Reading Club for the Summer of 2000. The theme is Year of the
Community. Has anyone done this before, and if so, would you be
willing to talk about what you did?

Cheers!



Dian Borek, B.A., M.I.St.
Children's Librarian

http://members.home.net/borek/homepage/MAIN.HTM

"That's the duty of the old," said the Librarian,
to be anxious on behalf of the young. And the duty of
the young is to scorn the anxiety of the old."
Philip Pullman


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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 11:53:53 -0800
From: "torrie" <torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us>
Subject: Goodbye, all!

I have enjoyed this listserv so much in the past several years. You
guys have got to be the nicest bunch on the net. Regretfully, I
need to say goodbye to you all for now.

I have taken a new position in the public sector, and will be leaving
Burlington Public Library on December 1. I'll be working for an
automation vendor in Redmond, WA (no, not Microsoft) and will be
working on my System Engineer certification!

Please also watch for this position opening, to be posted any day
now. This is a terrific community, wonderful staff, and I would
wholeheartedly recommend working as their children's services
librarian.

If anybody wants to contact me directly, please feel free to email
me at torrieoreo@hotmail.com. Bye bye!



Torrie 8)



Torrie Hodgson, Mutant librarian from the center of the earth!

Burlington Public Library
900 E Fairhaven Ave
Burlington WA 98233

(360)755-0760 phone
(360)755-0717 FAX

torrie@ci.burlington.wa.us

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 10:02:06 -0500
From: Ginnie Hoover <ginnie@lfpl.org>
Subject: RE: Babies and Books

In regards to the issue of older siblings in Baby storytimes, I have
always told parents to have their older child bring a baby doll, and act as
the "parent" for the doll, doing all the things the mom and real baby are
doing. The has worked very well with older-than-toddler aged siblings.

Ginnie Hoover
Louisville Free Public Library
ginnie@lfpl.org

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 09:32:36 -0600
From: Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org>
Subject: Uplifting Holocaust books

I just read my last five pubyac e-mails and was surprised that so many
people jumped on the teacher who wanted uplifting Holocaust books.
Folks, if you don't think that surviving the most heinous oppression
with your faith intact is uplifting, then I don't know what to make of
you!
Kim Flores

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Date: Tue, 23 Nov 1999 20:28:03 -0700 (MST)
From: Carol Janoff <cjanoff@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us>
Subject: polar Animals

Help!
Mary someone asked for resources for a storytime starring polar animals,
especially penguins. I typed a very long response and sent it to what I
had written down as her address: mcr42@yahoo.com, but the mail was
returned. So I must have the address wrong. Unfortunately after I typed
my answer I deleted her query. So if you see this message, Mary, e-mail
me and I will forward my goodie-packed response.
Carol Janoff
cjanoff@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us

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Date: Wed, 24 Nov 1999 07:25:57 -0800 (PST)
From: Anne Heidemann <wordgrrl7@yahoo.com>
Subject: Teen Zine query

Please forgive cross-posting.

I am hoping to start a Teen Zine in my library in the
coming year and am looking for any insight anyone
might have to offer on such an endeavor.

Some of the questions I'm facing include:
How often do you publish?
Who does the copying and who covers the costs?
How widely is your zine distributed?
What did you find out in the process that you
wished you'd known to begin with?
Any other words of wisdom?

Please respond directly to me at WordGrrl7@yahoo.com
and I'll be happy to post the results in one message.

Thanks in advance,
Anne Heidemann

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WordGrrl7@yahoo.com ICQ#: 28531435 fax: (603) 807-5866
http://www.angelfire.com/mi/anneland

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