|
Date: Tue, 30 Nov 1999 11:32:43 -0500 (EST)
To: pubyac-digest@nysernet.org
Subject: pubyac V1 #897
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 12:18:59 -0700 (MST)
From: Marijo Kist <mkist@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us>
Subject: Re: Historical Fiction
Hello there. I would like to weigh in on this discussion. When a kid comes
in and asks for historical fiction I find out if it is for an assignment.
Then it doesn't matter *what* I classify as Historical Fiction, or ALA, or
even this august group. It is what the teacher calls HF. That's where my
biggest problem with HF comes in. To me it is more important to try to
figure out what the teacher wants. Of course, nine times out of ten,
either the teacher didn't make that clear, or the student didn't catch
that part. So help them pick out 3-4 titles and tell them they should show
t hem to the teacher before reading them, just to make sure the qualify
for the assignment. I personally define HF as any book where
the time period is important to the plot, such as Year of the Boar and
Jackie Robinson. I usually recommend the Betsy-Tacy books because the
descriptions of clothes etc really define the period. A book about a kid
whose father is sent to the Gulf War would be historical fiction (in my
world). A book that takes place during that same time period, that had
little mention of evnts that place it in history would not be.
But the bottom line as far as assignment goes, it is the teacher who sets
the boundries, such as do you include time travel.
Just my two cents.
Marijo Kist mkist@lib.ci.phoenix.az.us
Acacia Branch Library
(602) 262-6224
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:34:28 -0600
From: "Linda Schehl" <lschehl@sslic.net>
Subject: Re: Help for project
Hello Maggi ~
I am an adult services reference librarian at the Frankfort Public Library
in the Chicago suburbs.
My director has recently asked me do some outreach for the teen population
in our community: a neglected
user group at our library. I have held one program, I have 'researched' the
topic by visiting other libraries, I am preparing to organize a teen
advisory board and we are working to create a teen area in one corner of our
library. I am also in a Youth Services & Programming class at UIUC. I have
focused all my research on teen topics. This url, written by classmates,
describes the program I conducted during Teen Read Week at my library:
http://leep.lis.uiuc.edu/seworkspace/designers/teen.html
The following URL represents my research project (along with two others) on
the topic of creating a teen
space in public libraries:
http://leep.lis.uiuc.edu/seworkspace/designers/teen.html
Please feel free to email me any questions. lschehl@sslic.net
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:22:52 CST
From: "Youth Euless" <youtheuless@hotmail.com>
Subject: unattended children policies
Please excuse any redundancy or breaches of netiquette.
Could anyone share your unattended/disruptive children policies? This would
include "unattended" in the sense of children dropped off at the
library and
also in the sense of children left alone while adults use other parts of the
building.
Meredith McMannis
Youth Services Supervisor
Euless Public Library
Euless, TX
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 09:19:56 -0600 (CST)
From: Lola Teubert <lolat@evans.evcpl.lib.in.us>
Subject: Re: Historical date
Dear David and all,
When I was in Library School Margaret Hodges that great storyteller and
professor said 1850-'s " in the west was considered historicla,because
"the
west" was new to history. Only she said it much better than that!!
I hope this is what you meant.
Lolat
Lola Teubert
Evansville-Vanderburgh County Public Library
22 SE. Fifth St.,
Evansville,IN.47708
812-428-8229
fax 812-428-8215
lolat@evans.evcpl.lib.in.us
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 15:37:27 -0500
From: RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>
Subject: Re: home soil
This is something to be thankful and grateful for, not ashamed of. I would
rather hope for peace in other countries and than wish to share the devastation
they have experienced.
Tracy VanderPol wrote:
> Lorie,
>
> I should have clarified myself. I mean that we, the living american people,
> have never truely witnessed the devistation to civilian life and liberty
> that is sustained in modern warfare, e.g. Bosnia, Iraq, Vietnam. I am
> familiar with the vietnam war, but feel that my life has not been impacted
> by it in the same way as Ethnic ALbanians in Kosavo. I wanted to comment on
> how easy our life (especially under 30) in American has really been. We are
> often shield from the harsh reality, because it is ugly or unpleasent. IMHO.
>
> Tracy
>
> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: Lorie <odonnell@borg.com>
> Reply-To: pubyac@nysernet.org
> To: pubyac@nysernet.org
> Subject: Re: home soil
> Date: Fri, 19 Nov 1999 23:27:32 -0500
>
> Tracy,
> I have seen/observed the disney syndrome as well, but how can you say the
US
> has never seen war on its home soil? We have had several wars here, and
> many
> Americans have died on our home soil! Although we are a young country,
> comparatively speaking, the US has had its share of trauma, tragedy and
war.
> I do hope there are not people out there teaching this to children!!
>
> Lorie
>
> Tracy VanderPol wrote:
>
> > I found it offensive as well. I have heard it called the American
Disney
> > Syndrome- (A culture that has never seen war on its home soil, wants
to
> > assign it a happy ending). Once in college while discussing a Bruno
> > Bettlehiem essay, my professor mentioned that they had added happy
> thoughts
> > to the end of Ann Frank's diary for the movie to make it more popular.
> > Twisted? Yes, but a request is still a request.
> > IMHO.
> >
> > Tracy VanderPol
> > Young Adult Librarian
> > Brighton District Library
>
> --
> Lorie O'Donnell
> odonnell@borg.com
>
> "All that is, comes from the mind; it is based
> on the mind, it is fashioned by the mind." from The Pali Canon
>
> ______________________________________________________
> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:36:58 PST
From: "victoria vannucci" <vvannucci@hotmail.com>
Subject: holiday craft
Does anyone have any good holiday craft ideas for young adults age 10-13?
I am doing a homemade gift program for young adult girls, and I can't decide
on what to do.
It must be simple. Simple simple simple.
Please respond to the list, or to me directly at ya@euclid.lib.oh.us.
Thank you.
Victoria Vannucci
YA Librarian
Euclid Public Library
Euclid, Ohio
______________________________________________________
Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 09:36:16 -0800
From: Kati Golden <kgolden@ci.eau-claire.wi.us>
Subject: Program Name
Three times a year we have a YA Open Reading and I'm looking for a new name
for the program. "YA Open Reading" just isn't cutting it anymore. If
your
library provides a similar program, what do you call it? My mind is blank!
Thanks!
kati
***********************************************************
Kati Golden
Reference Associate & Young Adult Programming Coordinator
L.E. Phillips Memorial Public Library
400 Eau Claire Street
Eau Claire, WI 54701
(715)839-5004
(715)839-3822 (FAX)
http://www.eauclaire.lib.wi.us
kgolden@ci.eau-claire.wi.us
***********************************************************
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 11:29:02 -0800 (PST)
From: Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>
Subject: Re: uplifting Holocaust fiction
I want to add that I, too, found The Hiding Place very inspiring as a
teen. Although the setting was full of horror, I was impressed by how
the sisters made the best of it. I also realized that my own
frustrations were small compared to what others might be enduring. This
is an excellent read for an older teen.
Rosalie Olds, Fairwood Library, Renton WA
On Tue, 23 Nov 1999, Rosemarie
Grainer wrote:
> Dear all,
> I was a teenager when I read _The Hiding Place_ by Corrie Ten Boom, a
> Christian (?Catholic?) who was eventually put into a concentration camp
> for her efforts to smuggle Jews out of Nazi-occupied Poland. This book
> was really inspiring to me. I could identify with the girl when she
> started her story, but then it started to seem so "other-worldly"
to me,
> as if something like this could never have happened. To have people
> thanking God for the flea infestation, and then finding the infestation a
> blessing was truly amazing. I don't think I have ever been so moved by a
> story in my whole life. The most incredible part to me was that it was
> all true. It scared me and upset me, as well.
> Rosemarie Grainer
>
>
> Rosemarie Grainer, Reference/Young Adult Librarian
> Olean Public Library, 134 N. 2nd St., Olean, NY 14760
> 716/372-0200; casseri@juno.com
>
> ___________________________________________________________________
> Get the Internet just the way you want it.
> Free software, free e-mail, and free Internet access for a month!
> Try Juno Web: http://dl.www.juno.com/dynoget/tagj.
>
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 10:44:36 -0500 (EST)
From: Kris Bell <krjbell@indiana.edu>
Subject: Re: Program Name
I'm not sure I know what an Open Reading is? Could you explain what you
do and that may help some of us to brainstorm a new name?
Thanks!
Kris Bell
------------------------------
Date: Fri, 26 Nov 1999 01:39:57 -0500
From: "Randy Harnish" <ranharnish@parlorcity.com>
Subject: Re: home soil
Tracy
To Lorie you stated, "I should have clarified myself. I mean that we, =
the living American people, have never truely witnessed the devistation =
to civilian life and liberty that is sustained in modern warfare, e.g. =
Bosnia, Iraq, Vietnam."
Tracy, as I recall, a couple million living Americans have witnessed the =
devistation to civilian life in the conflicts you mention. Regarding =
Vietnam in particular, you say you are "familiar with the Vietnam war, =
but feel your life has not been impacted by it in the same way as Ethnic =
Albanians in Kosavo." Could the lack of impact possibly stem from the =
fact you were not one of the FEW MILLION LIVING AMERICANS who DID =
partisipate? If you feel the impact on Americans in your referenced =
conflicts was to a lesser degree having not been fought on home soil, I =
feel you are mistaken. In a period of military conflict resulting in =
devistation to civilian life, the ownership of real estate conflicts are =
fought on is of little consequence. In fact, partisipation in a battle =
in which your homeland is not in direct jepordy, adds it's own brand of =
devistation. It is much easier to use aggressive force in defending =
your loved ones on home soil, than to perform those same acts a world =
away in the name of a cause others proclaim is "the right thing to
do." =
You also stated, "I wan't to comment on how easy our life (especially =
under 30) in America has really been. "We are often shielded from harsh =
reality because it is ugly or unpleasent." I must agree with you on =
this point. I returned from the Far East 30 years ago possessing a =
zippo lighter with the following inscription: "FOR THOSE WHO HAVE FOUGHT =
FOR THEIR FREEDOM, LIFE HAS A FLAVOR THE PROTECTED WILL NEVER KNOW." =
Could this little expression possibly explain the lack of flavor, =
purpose and direction seen in many of our under 30 citizens of today? =20
I do believe a society (our under 30 population) who enjoys a shielded =
life of liberty and freedom, without having fought for it, is incapable =
of appreciating it fully, and is unfortunately at great risk of =
eventually loosing it. I certainly hope I'm wrong.
Randy
------------------------------
Date: Mon, 29 Nov 1999 11:11:45 -0700
From: "Renee J. Vaillancourt" <rvail@missoula.lib.mt.us>
Subject: Latchkey Children summary - LONG
[This message is being cross-posted to PUBLIB and PUBYAC.
Please excuse any duplication.]
Thanks to all who responded to my request for programs,
evaluation tools and PR materials for latchkey children. Several
people asked me to summarize to the list, so here it is:
[note: I am including excerpts from postings anonymously in
respect for the privacy of the individuals and institutions who shared
their experiences. I am very grateful to those who shared
information with me and would love to see them claim credit for
their postings if they so desire. Also, all information used in the
book will be credited appropriately.]
Hi,
You might be interested to know that in our library we don't have
"latchkey"
or "unattended" children as a group or individuals with different
needs,
policies, procedures, or anything else. We get plenty of afterschool
children, or children alone or with other siblings, friends, etc. All
children are expected to abide by the same standards of behavior
as all
adults, and we would take the same steps if the child's behavior
was
inappropriate: 1) asking them to leave 2) calling on security (at two
of
our ten sites) for assistance, 3) calling the police.
There are two exceptions: 1) if a child is wound-up after school and
will
respond to a "time-out" (some don't) they may be asked to leave
for ten
minutes or so instead of to just leave. (We would ask an adult to
leave.)
2) After closing hours we give a late parent one verbal and one
written
warning that their child is abandoned after the library closes and
that
we
will call the police rather than leave the child on the steps.
Incident reports are always filed when something happens for
documentation's
sake.
This sounds tough, but it does make everyone responsible for their
own
behavior. We have some small sites with two, three or four staff and
sometimes as many as 50 kids. Police very rarely are called but
the one
or
two times we've had a smart-alecky junior high kid a visit from a cop
certainly gets the message across. When daycares started
charging dollars
by
the minute for late pickups our own staff was affected, so we
needed to
stress to parents that our own staff have parental responsibilities
also.
The policy/letter doesn't say it that way -- instead it says that
a child left on the street without supervision is an abandoned child
and
that we will contact the police to pick them up.
For small children (yes, we do have children as young as two left all
day
with an older sibling during the summer) we try to send a verbal
message
home through the older child, the parent if we see them, or even the
food
program counselor that the library is a public place and not safe to
be
left
all day. (Unfortunately IMHO it is sometimes safer for the child than
the
home.) The internet (we have open access) has allowed us to
stress
parental
responsibility a great deal. In fact, our police will validate and have
said in public forums that a child is probably less safe alone in the
bathroom here at Central then surfing the net.
We don't advertise ourselves as afterschool daycare or a place to
hangout
without paying a daycare fee. Plenty of kids show up anyway! We
do have
some
afterschool programs such as tutoring, arts, and drama activities.
Very
recently the elementary schools in town have begun to receive
grants to
stay
open longer and provide recreational activities. Since we are the
school
libraries (across the street or across the park) for these schools,
children
can choose where they want to go, and they are beginning to have
more
options.
As the public library, we don't exclude anyone, regardless of age,
time
of
day, or any other arbitrary division. We don't know if the child alone
is
"latchkey", homeless, or has a parent over in the reference wing.
We
insist
on good behavior, and enforce what we say, and whenever we get a
chance
we
talk about public places and parental responsibility.
Hope these ideas are somewhat new ones for you, and I or my
staff would
talk
to you any time about them.
________________________________________________________
I have a brochure entitled "Enriching Your Child's Library
Experience." In
it we list expectations the library has for parents and chidren,
including
"We expect all children under the age of 7 to be accompanied by
an adult
or a responsible sitter while visiting the library."
________________________________________________________
The Kid Spot 1 hour once a week. After school during March-May
> > and September-November. In tandem with Family Story Hour
(Ages 2-6) one
> > afternoon a week during June-August.
> > Our promo copy in our quarterly newsletter read:
> > Something new & different--every week. Ages 6-12 (we
changed it
> > 7-12 over the summer to clearly separate Kid Spot from Family
Story Time.
> > The idea was to have a "hanging out" kind of activity that
wasn't
> > too time consuming to plan--sort of pull out all those great
program ideas
> > or interests to try again. We wanted it to be low key. One of
our goals
> > was to give kids an organized something that was looser than
school, fun,
> > and would lead kids to reading through the back door....and to
highlight
> > areas of the collection that they didn't know about. The
themes will
> > follow in the next e-mail so it doesn't become too long.
> > The summer attendance was decent and many kids and
parents came
> > specifically to Kid Spot. After school at Main Library, the kids
are just
> > too busy doing homework or cruising the net to come to a
program. We
> > discontinued it as of the end of November and the end of our
Fall
> > calendar.
> > For some kids, like the noisy, bored,
> > staying-at-the-library-too-long kids, this did give me an
opportunity to
> > become a fun, friendly face rather than a Shhhh-ing authority
figure.
> > Sometimes the kids I had established contact with became
helpful or at
> > least more pleasant, stopping by the Information Desk to chat,
claiming me
> > as a friend rather than a faceless library policeman.
> > At the Main Library this was not overwhelmingly successful in
> > attendance. But I have great faith that this could work
wonderfully in a
> > neighborhood branch that is often used as an after-school
> > hangout/latch-key site. The trick is to find things you can have
fun with
> > and have fun. Let the kids sort of lead the way...and maybe
don't expect
> > them to sit still and listen after sitting still and listening all day
at
> > school.
________________________________________________________
Renee, I am so happy you are doing this. I am moderating a panel
on Unattended Children and have had a
difficult time locating relatively recent resource material. Would you
mind sharing your resources list with me? Here is what I have so
far:
Bibliography:
Connect for Kids -- Guidance for Grownups: 3 related documents:
1. "Serving Latchkey Children" by Frances Smardo Dowd
<http://www.connectforkids.org/content1553/content_show.htm?doc
_id=8147&at
trib_id=318>
2. #89. The last safe place: libraries as family centers
<http://www.connectforkids.org/info-url1564/info-
url_show.htm?doc_id=8913>
3. Urban Libraries Reach Out to Youth: Model Program Files
<http://www.connectforkids.org/content1553/content_show.htm?doc
_id=8006&at
trib_id=318>
"When Your Child Visits the Library Alone"
http://www.ed.gov/pubs/parents/Library/Alone.html
In: U.S. Department Of Education, Office of Educational Research
and
Improvement. Helping Your Child Use the Library, by Kathryn
Perkinson
LATimes, State and Local Edition, February 10, 1999
"Libraries Struggle in Role as Child Care Providers" by Richard
Winton.
(no longer online)
Public Libraries as Partners in Youth Development (DeWitt
Wallace-Reader's Digest Fund)
Challenges and Opportunities
http://www.ala.org/plpyd/dwtoc.html
Programs for School-Age Youth in Public Libraries Report of the
Survey
http://www.ala.org/plpyd/alatoc.html
Latchkey Children in the Public Library; Resources for Planners.
Public
Library Association, 1988. 75 pg.
_______________________________________________________
Thanks again to all who helped out! Check out the final product in
Latchkey Children in the Public Library to be published by ALA
(PLA/ALSC) early next year!
*****************************
Renee J. Vaillancourt
Assistant Director
Missoula (MT) Public Library
rvail@missoula.lib.mt.us
*****************************
------------------------------
Date: Thu, 25 Nov 1999 22:53:35 -0500
From: zoe <voellm@ix.netcom.com>
Subject: Re: Historical Fiction
Historical Fiction is fiction written about the past by a writer who was
not living in the time period the story takes place. Technically
speaking, if you write about world War II now, you are writing
Historical Fiction, but a book about World War II written at the time it
was actually happening, even though it is history for us now, is not
considered Historical Fiction. This is how it was explained to me by
one of my professors.
------------------------------
End of pubyac V1 #897
*********************
|