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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Date: Wed, 8 Dec 1999 00:01:03 CST Subject: PUBYAC digest 16 PUBYAC Digest 16 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) chat room use by "children johnson city public library" <jcplkids@hotmail.com> 2) Re: why library? by Jodi Cohen <cohenj2@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> 3) MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs by PUBYAC <pyowner@pallasinc.com> 4) Golden House "Stumper" by Babette Wofter <wofterba@oplin.lib.oh.us> 5) stumper:Trapped by Beverly Kirkendall <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us> 6) BIB: books for group by "Jeanenne Reid Robinson" <jrrchild@hotmail.com> 7) Hi - low books by "Marty Staton" <mstaton@ci.poquoson.va.us> 8) Stumper: Too young to know by Rhonda Jessup <rjessup@whitbylibrary.on.ca> 9) Snow globe books by rebecca stutzman <rastutzman@yahoo.com> 10) Re: Stumper - Paula Fox by ahendon@dorsai.org 11) Christmas Puppet Scripts for Younger Children by "Heather" <heather@elgin.net> 12) Christmas Funnies by Wendy Pavelko <WPavelko@spl.lib.ar.us> 13) thanks by Nancy Bonne <bonne@noblenet.org> 14) Teaching Genre by Elaine Williams <williael@oplin.lib.oh.us> 15) Re: chat room use by ILefkowitz@aol.com 16) Re: chat room use by "Tamara Butler" <tamara_r_butler@hotmail.com> 17) RE: web classes for kids by "Kiefer, Curtis" <Curtis.Kiefer@ci.corvallis.or.us> 18) Re: chat room use by "Catherine E. Ingram" <ceingram@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us> 19) [Fwd: chat room use] by Bonnie Wright <bwright@aldus.northnet.org> 20) Re:MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs /response by hedy_harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us 21) Library Clip Art by "Joan Enriquez" <joane@ocln.org> 22) Juvenile cataloging by Kelly Jennings <kjennin@tulsalibrary.org> 23) RE: chat room use by BROWN@TLC.LIB.OH.US 24) Re: chat room use by Beverly Kirkendall <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us> 25) RE: Stumpers and Bibs by Vasilik <Vasilik@exchg1.palsplus.org> 26) Re: MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs by Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: "children johnson city public library" <jcplkids@hotmail.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: chat room use Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:44:51 CST I would like some input as to how other libraries handle patrons using chat rooms on the Internet. First of all, do you allow chat rooms to be used? If so, do you allow any age to use them? Do you moniter the chat room use? I appreciate any information about chat room use. Betty Cobb Johnson City Public Library bcobb@jcpl.net ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Jodi Cohen <cohenj2@scfn.thpl.lib.fl.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: why library? MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 10:59:42 CST
I am so glad to hear more discussion of libraries and literacy, particularly among youth services librarians. As a literacy coordinator who also works with kids, I think it's important for ALL librarians to understand that reading competence begins in the cradle. Infants who babble and finally say "Mama" are taking their first step not only to spoken words but to written ones. Language development is a precursor to preliteracy skills. All librarians need to know WHY we read poems, do tongue twisters, point to words, talk about color and left and right and all those things we teach kids (often unconsciously) in storytimes. Youth services librarians need to support literacy development in very simple ways. Hopefully, between us, parents and the schools, adult literacy programs will sometime be not needed. (I know, in your dreams.....) Jodi Cohen Principal Librarian Tampa-Hillsborough County Public Library System
------------------------------ Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 11:20:09 -0700 (MST) From: PUBYAC <pyowner@pallasinc.com> To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs Message-ID: <Pine.GSO.3.95.991207111815.14757R-100000@info.jefferson.lib.co.us> MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Dear PUBYACkers, As your moderator, I have noticed a marked increase of Stumper and Bibliography requests on PUBYAC in the last year or so. There are days when there are more Stumper requests than there are discussion items. I believe this is a cause for some concern, since the mission of PUBYAC is to enhance communication regarding issues affecting our daily work. While Readers' Advisory questions are always a part of our daily work, I must also say that I have noticed many Stumpers which should be able to be answered with a minimum of digging into standard Children's reference sources. I've also noticed an increasing number of requests for bibliographies or booklists about which entire books already exist. PUBYAC should not to be used as the first line of attack against a Stumper or a booklist request. In fact, your moderator will not post Stumper or Bibliographic questions from the "general public" because that is not at all the intent of this professional discussion list. The general public should start with their librarian. The librarian, after doing their research and homework, uses PUBYAC's collective brain when they have no avenues left. We have had this Stumper/Bib discussion before, when people were feeling overburdened by Stumpers. As your moderator, I've always tried to give the benefit of the doubt to posters, since all of our libraries are not funded or stocked to the same extent. I've only occasionally returned posts to people, when they've ignored ALL Netiquette requirements, leaving out not only their return address, but also a correct subject line, and most egregious of all (in my opinion) the sources they've already checked. Unfortunately, I've noticed that "sources checked" is the most seldom included piece of Stumper Netiquette. Why is that? Is it so much work to type in the titles you've done your homework with, to save your fellow librarians the duplication of checking that same title? If a Stumper is worth posting, isn't it worth the quality of informing us what you've already searched? If we made it an absolute requirement to add Sources Checked, would this cut down on the number of Stumper or Booklist requests? My intent in this message is to start some discussion on this topic, and to, of course, maintain a high quality dicussion list that will be serve the needs of its subscribers. You do a lot of your own self-policing. But the number of Stumpers and Booklist requests posted with lack of documentation has compelled me to bring this up. Yours faithfully, Shannon VanHemert PUBYAC Moderator pyowner@pallasinc.com ------------------------------ From: Babette Wofter <wofterba@oplin.lib.oh.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Golden House "Stumper" MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 12:50:20 CST I have a patron looking for a children's book in which a little boy sees a house of gold across the hills. He begs his father to take him there. He finally does and they discover that the house is not gold, but is just the sun shining on the house. Patron says the book is not too wordy, but doesn't recall if it was a picture book or not. Any ideas? Thanks in advance. Sincerely, Babette Wofter, Youth Services Coordinator wofterba@oplin.lib.oh.us Perry County District Library New Lexington, Ohio ------------------------------ From: Beverly Kirkendall <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: stumper:Trapped MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:06:54 CST Does this ring a bell with anyone? A book about a man whose car lost control, and he was stuck in a ravine with a broken leg for several days, maybe as long as a week. "Trap" or "Trapped" was included in the title (maybe all of the title). It was a new book when the woman remembers she reading it at about age 10. I thought she said that she was 23, so it would be from the mid to late 80's. She seemed a bit older, however, and has a 10 year old boy (who she thinks would like the book), so it might be from a little earlier. I looked in Best Books and Children's Catalog as well as our collection and my brain (we all know what that's worth!) and nothing came close. TIA for the help! Beverly Kirkendall Hurst Public Library bkirkend@city.hurst.tx.us ------------------------------ From: "Jeanenne Reid Robinson" <jrrchild@hotmail.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: BIB: books for group Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:17:38 CST
Thanks to everyone for their responses to my request for suggested titles for a 4th-6th grade discussion group. Here is the list of suggested titles by Pubyacers: Holes by Louis Sachar Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone by J.K. Rowling Witch Week by Diana Jones Secret of Platform 13 by Eva Ibbotson The Wish Giver by Bill Brittain Frindle by Andrew Clements Charlotte's Web by E.B. White Baseball Fever by Johanna Hurwitz Starting School with an Enemy by ? Mr. Popper's Penguins by Richard Atwater My Teacher is an Alien by Bruce Coville Summer Reading is Killing Me! by Jon Scieska The Pushcart War by Jean Merrill Dew Drop Dead by James Howe The Westing Game by Ellen Raskin Walk Two Moons by Sharon Creech I Left My Sneakers in Dimension X by Bruce Coville The Philadelphia Adventure by Lloyd Alexander Dear Mr. Henshaw by Beverly Cleary Island of the Blue Dolphins by Scott O'Dell The White Mountains by John Christopher Pinballs by Betsy Byars Ella Enchanted by Gail Levine Sarah, Plain and Tall by Patricia MacLachlan Tuck Everlasting by Natalie Babbit Great Gilly Hopkins by Katherine Patterson The Fighting Ground by Avi A Time for Handrew by Hahn Number the Stars by Lois Lowery Out of the Dust by Karen Hesse Harris and Me by Gary Paulsen The Egypt Game by Zilpha Keatley Snyder Belle Pratar's Boy by Ruth White Wringer by Jerry Spinelli On My Honor by Marion Bauer Afternoon of the Elves by Janet Lisle House with a Clock in it's Walls by John Bellairs Suggestions from some Pubyacers about groups and choosing books: -alternate "heavy" titles with something a little lighter -booktalk other titles in genre -talk about author -try not to use books over 150; around 100 pages works best because kids have so many demands on their time
Thanks again for your help, Jeanenne Robinson ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: "Marty Staton" <mstaton@ci.poquoson.va.us> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Hi - low books Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:32:18 CST Hello, We are hoping to make available and identify books that are of high = interest but low vocabulary for those "at risk readers" in our = population. I would appreciate any suggestions of books that you = recommend and/or sources/publishers who carry a good selection of = identifiable books that these kids can and would enjoy reading. Thanks = for your time and effort. This is a wonderful source of information!! Respond to me and I'll post a bib. Marty Staton: mstaton@ci.poquoson.va.us=20 ------------------------------ From: Rhonda Jessup <rjessup@whitbylibrary.on.ca> To: PUBYAC <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: Stumper: Too young to know MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:45:54 CST I have a patron looking for a book she saw in a bookstore in Southern Ontario called "Too young to know" and it is about a Japanese girl who relocated to Canada during the war or she was a victim of a government-forced relocation within Canada. The patron is not sure of the details or if the title is correct. I cannot find any information. Any clues out there? Please reply to me personally at rjessup@whitbylibrary.on.ca Thanks. Rhonda Jessup, Coordinator of Children's & Adult Services Whitby Public Library Whitby, Ontario, Canada ------------------------------ From: rebecca stutzman <rastutzman@yahoo.com> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Snow globe books MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 13:56:47 CST To all the fans of stumpers out there- Has anyone ever seen a book with a snow globe contained in the story? A teacher is doing a snow globe craft with her public school class and wondered if there was something she could also read to the students. Checked usual sources. TIA, Becky rastutzman@yahoo.com
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Thanks, Alison Brooklyn Public Library Alison Hendon ahendon@amanda.dorsai.org "Though my soul may set in darkness, It will rise in perfect light, I have loved the stars too fondly To be fearful of the night...." - Sarah Williams, "The Old Astronomer to His Pupil" ------------------------------ From: "Heather" <heather@elgin.net> To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: Christmas Puppet Scripts for Younger Children Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:24:14 CST Many thanks to all who responded to my plea for Christmas puppet scripts = for younger children. Your suggestions were very much appreciated. I = will try to pass along the script suggestions that I received. If I can = fax one or more to anyone, please let me know. * version of "Brown Bear, Brown Bear" that can be done with stick = puppets (patterns accompanied fax). Many thanks Martha! =20 * script (title covered up. Sorry) with Santa, Snowman, Rabbit, = Cat, Dog and Bear and "The Best Christmas of All" with cat, dog, duck, = cow, turtle and rabbit. Thanks Mary! * Amy sent "Santa Cures a Cold" and "Santa's Reindeer" . * "The Forgetful Santa" from Jodi * Carol and Marcia suggested "Christmas Story for Jiggs" based on = "The Night Before Christmas" out of Dee Anderson's "Amazingly Easy = Puppet Plays" Carol says that she did the play on her lap with two = puppets and with a photocopy of the script inside an open Christmas book = from which one puppet "read" the poem. * Paula, Judy and Amy wrote that there are two Christmas plays in = Denise Anton Wright's "One-Person Puppet Plays" (Teacher Ideas Press, = c1990) * "Claude and Pepper" by Dick Gackenbach. Thank you Barb. * Pat Thomson's "A Band of Joining In Stories" has a play about = someone cooking that can be adapted to Mrs. Claus making candy canes. = Children participate by stirring, rocking etc. (from Carol) * Blair suggested the Christmas story in Lobel's "Frog and Toad All = Year" One person reads the quoted lines in the story and the other = moves the two puppets from behind the screen. Blair recruits a parent = or someone else from the audience to be the narrator and sit in a chair = outside the puppet stage and read the lines that are not in the = conversation. * Catherine suggested "Something for Christmas" by Palmer Brown. As = she points out, it is a simple, very short story about a little mouse = figuring out what to give his mother for Christmas. It has lots of = slapstick as the baby mouse throws things in the air, searching his = possessions for materials to make the perfect gift. With appreciation, Heather Robinson, St. Thomas Public Library, St. Thomas, Ontario CANADA heather@elgin.net ------------------------------ From: Wendy Pavelko <WPavelko@spl.lib.ar.us> To: "'PUBYACER's'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: Christmas Funnies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:38:41 CST I need guidance and suggestions!! We need some funny Christmas stories, songs or flannelboards for our Family Storytime - ASAP Thank you!!!! Wendy Pavelko Wpavelko@spl.lib.ar.us ------------------------------ From: Nancy Bonne <bonne@noblenet.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: thanks Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 14:55:44 CST thanks to all of you who identified my stumper as "I am the mummy heb-nefert" by Eve Bunting. And further thanks to all who pointed out the new "Dear America" series of Royal Biographies...I want to look into these.nancy Bonne, bonne@noblenet.org Nancy Bonne Children's Librarian Beverly Public Library bonne@noblenet.org ------------------------------ From: Elaine Williams <williael@oplin.lib.oh.us> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Teaching Genre MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 15:17:33 CST Hi, Yakkers! I am looking for a fun way to teach third graders about genres and how to tell fiction from non-fiction. I have looked at the book bingo options I've seen on the list, but I am having trouble adapting the idea and incorporating the physical books. I do not need ideas for teaching the Dewey Decimal system. Thanks in advance for your help. Elaine Williams williael@oplin.lib.oh.us ------------------------------ From: ILefkowitz@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: chat room use MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:45:30 CST We do not allow anyone using our internet computers to participate in chat rooms. We also do not allow them to use or check email of any kind. If they are using the computers (which are very close to the reference desk) and we see them in either a chat room or an email program, we simply remind them that there is no chatting or emailing and ask them to finish up that item and close it out. They can continue using the internet just not chatting or emailing. Ilene Lefkowitz Youth Services Librarian Mount Olive Public Library ILefkowitz@aol.com ------------------------------ From: "Tamara Butler" <tamara_r_butler@hotmail.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: chat room use Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 17:58:05 CST Betty, When I worked as director of a public library, we had to ban chat rooms because groups of teenagers were taking over the computer area on chat rooms for hours. This discouraged adults and others from having computer access. We set time limits of an hour, but one teen would sign up for one hour, another for the next, and on and on. We finally had to ban chat rooms altogether. We allowed e-mail, games and anything else besides chat rooms and our problems declined significantly. Tamara Butler ------------------------------ From: "Kiefer, Curtis" <Curtis.Kiefer@ci.corvallis.or.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: web classes for kids MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:03:17 CST Hi Steven, We have just been doing Family Internet classes at the Library. We haven't done many of those. There really has not been great demand. We also do an introduction to the Internet for our STARS program at elementary schools that have computer labs. Since our public PCs offer unfiltered Internet access, we have focused on safety on the Internet and the resources on our homepage. Sorry I can't be of more help. Curtis L. Kiefer Youth Services Division Manager Corvallis-Benton County Public Library 541-757-6962 FAX 541-757-6918 curtis.kiefer@ci.corvallis.or.us ------------------------------ From: "Catherine E. Ingram" <ceingram@starbase1.htls.lib.il.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: chat room use MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:10:14 CST
Everyone under the age of 14 must have a parent sign our form in order to use the Internet. We do not monitor Internet or Chat room use at all. Further, one of the best uses of chat rooms in my library are a number of Albanian refuges that use an Albanian chat room to talk to other kids, IN ALBANIAN. I would have no way to monitor that anyway. If a person (any age) is using a chat room that keeps crashing our computer we ask them to use a different chat room. Because of our security (Fortress) some of the chatrooms do not work because they require a download. Catherine ----------------------------------------------------------------- | *opinions are my own* | | Catherine E. Ingram, M.L.S. Joliet Public Library | | Young Adult Librarian 150 N. Ottawa St. | | ceingram@htls.lib.il.us Joliet, IL 60432 | | phone: 815-740-2660 http://www.joliet.lib.il.us | ----------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------------ From: Bonnie Wright <bwright@aldus.northnet.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: [Fwd: chat room use] Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:16:06 CST Our library does not allow the use of chat rooms. We have a written policy and that is in it. Chat rooms can be harmful to children and teens, who might try to meet a "pal" in them-and I'm talking about a child molester posing as a teen-that sort of thing. So, first of all, we don't have them to protect kids. Second of all, we don't have chat rooms because we've found them to be time- consuming in terms of the patrons. We allow an hour exclusive use of our public computers;two hours if no other patrons want to use them. We've found people who were in chat rooms were the most difficult to ask to "vacate" the computers-they tended to get angry and to want to stay on them-even if we were about to close the library. Or, they wanted to "just finish this conversation". So, secondly, we decided not to have chat rooms because of the amount of time the patrons take who use them. Third, we decided that we didn't want to make patrons wait who needed to do some serious research-MEDLINE or a school report, for example. We felt, that as a public library, procuring information had to be our first priority. So, third, we felt that chat rooms were better left to home computer users. ------------------------------ From: hedy_harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re:MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs /response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Description: "cc:Mail Note Part" Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:21:17 CST Thank you, Sharon Van Hemert. I thought that I was being too picky or judgmental regarding these stumpers. I am in favor of citing sources checked before offering the question for a stumper. This is similar to the procedure we use in our MCLS reference searches. Also, we could all use a lesson or two in transporting voluminous information, such as bibliographies, by e-mail attachment. my 2 cents worth... Hedy L. Harrison Children's Services Librarian Cerritos Public Library hedy_harrison@ci.cerritos.ca.us ------------------------------ From: "Joan Enriquez" <joane@ocln.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Library Clip Art MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-transfer-encoding: 7BIT Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:27:48 CST Hello , I hope you will share with me some of your favorite sites for library clip art. I am looking for art that is useful for adults and also children. Thank you. Joan Enriquez joane@ocln.org ------------------------------ From: Kelly Jennings <kjennin@tulsalibrary.org> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Juvenile cataloging Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:40:21 CST We received a wonderful large grant to start a Hispanic resource center which means lots of new Spanish children's materials. We have 2 vendors that we work with that will provide the juvenile materials we want. Now to catalog them. Because of the amount of material, we cannot do all of this inhouse. The vendors can provide cataloging, but one outsources the cataloging of Spanish materials to another company and this is proving to be unsatisfactory. Suggestions? We need Library of Congress subject headings. Thanks for your assistance! Reply to me. Kelly Jennings Tulsa City-County Library 400 Civic Center Tulsa, OK 74103 918.596.7970 (office) 918.596.7913 (fax) kjennin@tulsalibrary.org (e-mail) <http://www.tulsalibrary.org> ------------------------------ From: BROWN@TLC.LIB.OH.US To: pubyac@prairienet.ORG Subject: RE: chat room use Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:50:53 CST Our Internet User Policy doesn't prohibit patrons from using chat rooms. Given that some people seem to spend the entire day moving from PC to PC, Main to branches, chatting away the whole time --makes me wish that we COULD limit some of them. But we don't. The User Policy is concerned more with graphic displays than with text, and nobody wants to look too closely at what's passing back and forth--unless patron behavior becomes unruly. I have, occasionally, tried to lead some kids away from the seedier sites, helping them find places where they're actually likelier to find other kids instead of adults, or at least direct them to hobby and similar interest sites. Our Library recently instituted a policy requiring parental permission slips for INET access, with special cards issued that have to be displayed. I think that helps limit some problems. The only real limitation on chatrooms is time limits on most PCs: as I said, that at least encourages migration. Greg Browm/Sanger Branch Toledo Lucas County Public Library ------------------------------ From: Beverly Kirkendall <bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: chat room use MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 18:57:37 CST Funny you should ask this today--we are having meeting to hopefully finalize the revamping of our computer/Internet use policies this afternoon! We do allow people, regardless of age, to use chat rooms. In the Youth Media Center (for anyone under 16), I have observed that some chat rooms are blocked by our filter (Cyberpatrol). I don't know if this is because of the general content, language, or host web site (if any) associated with the chat room. We don't moderate chat room usage per se in Youth Media (and I am fairly certain they don't in Adult Media), but if I know someone is in a chat room, I have a tendency to find a reason to head that way on occasion, especially if the kid(s) are getting a little rambunctious. I don't overtly (or covertly, for that matter) read their conversations, but I do a quick check to make sure they aren't violating any other rules for computer use. To date we have had little problem with kids and chat rooms, but we still tend to be a little cautious; I would rather err a bit on that side than have it become a major issue after the fact. Beverly Kirkendall Hurst Public Library bkirkend@ci.hurst.tx.us children johnson city public library wrote: > I would like some input as to how other libraries handle patrons using chat > rooms on the Internet. First of all, do you allow chat rooms to be used? If > so, do you allow any age to use them? Do you moniter the chat room use? I > appreciate any information about chat room use. > > Betty Cobb > Johnson City Public Library > bcobb@jcpl.net > > ______________________________________________________ > Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
------------------------------ From: Vasilik <Vasilik@exchg1.palsplus.org> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Stumpers and Bibs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:04:47 CST Shannon and Pubyaccers - While personally I enjoy being able to answer a stumper, I do sometimes wonder if some of us don't sometime resort to the listserve as the easiest way to answer a question. Of course, on the other hand, sometimes with the information a patron gives us it is almost impossible to find an answer to a stumper unless you just happen to know the book. I don't mind the stumpers, but I'm also happy to be able to "listen" and sometimes contribute to a professional discussion. I would add to Shannon's list of etiquette yet another reminder for people who are asking for bibliographies and stumpers to include their personal e-mail address in their signature at the end of the request. Depending on your type of e-mail the original e-mail address is masked by pubyac's and sometimes I just don't reply because the address isn't there! Pat Vasilik Children's Coordinator Clifton Public Library Clifton, NJ vasilik@palsplus.org ------------------------------ From: Jeri Kladder <jkladder@gcfn.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Tue, 7 Dec 1999 19:10:41 CST Shannon, I too am sometimes aggravated by the stumper and bib requests. But, my goodness, there are people out there that think they can find 70 year old fiction in A to Zoo and site that as a source they've checked. There are people out there who really need help. As far as the bib's go, I think that sitting at home brainstorming a story hour is not sufficient research before posting a question for others to solve. Maybe a periodic reminder that people should do their homework, so to speak, before posting might be a help. And those people who ask the same question that's been asked and answered six times in the past year.....grrrr! - jeri Jeri Kladder, Children's Librarian & Storyteller jkladder@freenet.columbus.oh.us Columbus Metropolitan Library Columbus, Ohio ------------------------------ End of PUBYAC Digest 16 *********************** |
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