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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Date: Tue, 14 Dec 1999 00:01:04 CST Subject: PUBYAC digest 19 PUBYAC Digest 19 Topics covered in this issue include: 1) Stumpers and Bibs by jvandcar@park-ridge.lib.il.us 2) RE: MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs by Melody Allen <melodyan@lori.state.ri.us> 3) Tin cans by "Karen Sonderman" <sonderka@oplin.lib.oh.us> 4) Re: e-mail, once more by LMP_SHANLA@hlc.actx.edu 5) Re: e-mail, once more by David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org> 6) computers & filters by AKnepp9754@aol.com 7) Re: Accelerated reader by "Earl and Kirsten Martindale" <earlmart@bellsouth.net> 8) Re: chat room use by Dawn Sardes <dsardes@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us> 9) RE: Limiting circulation by CCullum621@aol.com 10) Re: Index to Collective Biographies by LunarHunk@aol.com 11) Re: chat room use by HFL_LISA@stls.org 12) RE: Query re: Judith Viorst by JEANEAL@CRPL.CEDAR-RAPIDS.LIB.IA.US 13) Accelerated Reader by Peggy Carter <pcarter@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us> 14) Responses regarding Accelerated Reading Programs by Ellen Snoeyenbos <ellens@ocln.org> 15) Re: e-mail, once more by "Tamara Butler" <tamara_r_butler@hotmail.com> 16) Re: Music Collection advice needed! by Britt A Donohue <bad2@acsu.buffalo.edu> 17) Re: Accelerated reader by Mary Jackson <mjackson@neon.nlc.state.ne.us> 18) toilet paper rolls by Michael Crosby <mdcrosby@earthlink.net> 19) Collective biography index by Katherine Heylman <kheylman@apk.net> 20) RE: Acc Reader by deb bodner <d_bodner@yahoo.com> 21) author references by Steffens@libcoop.net 22) You, too, can do a fun science program by Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org> 23) Re: MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs /response by Lorie <odonnell@borg.com> 24) Stumpers by Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org> 25) Re: packaged reading lists by Jeanne Smith <jsmith@cromaine.org> 26) RE: Gender Role titles by "Look, Lin" <llook@city.newport-beach.ca.us> 27) Re: Gender Role titles by "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us> 28) Chat rooms by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us> 29) Re: Reading Incentive Programs by Dawn Sardes <dsardes@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us> 30) Index to Collective Biographies by "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us> 31) Christian fiction by Maryann Gelato <mgelato@infolink.org> 32) stumper:Fred and Ted by Mary Vanstone <mvanstone@tln.lib.mi.us> 33) Storytime Fingerplay by "Deb B." <debs4jc@yahoo.com> 34) Re: Acc. Reader by Merideth Jenson-Benjamin <mjenson-@lib.az.us> 35) RE: fun opener ideas by "Peggy Hagen" <phagen@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us> 36) Job Opening by Catherine Christmann <christmannc@home.com> 37) Re: Teen Read Week by Naughyde@aol.com 38) Re: fun opener ideas by Simpson <jsimpson03@snet.net> 39) Re: fun opener ideas by syosset public <sychild@yahoo.com> 40) shanachie stumper by Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org> 41) STUMPER by JoAnne Dearin <dearin@noblenet.org> 42) FW: Popular reading collections for juvenile hall patrons by Patti Lewis <plewis@sonoma.lib.ca.us> 43) Stumper answered by "Sarah Smith" <sesmith5@hotmail.com> 44) Re: fun opener ideas by Shannon Metcalfe <nfcl_lib@yahoo.com> ---------------------------------------------------------------------- From: jvandcar@park-ridge.lib.il.us To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Stumpers and Bibs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 14:37:19 CST At our library we use Microsoft Outlook for our email and so I send my PUBYAC mail into its own folder that I can read when I have the time. It also shows the first two lines of the actual message before I click on it so I can usually tell if I want to read the complete message or just delete it. With the recent PUBYAC change my postings starting coming as individual messages instead of a digest. I was going to 'fix' it right away but got busy and didn't get around to it. What I found out is that I like seeing the individual messages as they are faster to read and easier to delete or forward to a coworker. It is now much easier for me to delete all the comments and discussion on filtering and internet use and move on to the fun stuff. I enjoy the stumpers and bibliographies that are posted here and would miss them if they were gone. I agree though, we should all check our resources first and list where we have looked. Janet Van De Carr Park Ridge Public Library Park Ridge, Il 60068 mailto:jvandcar@park-ridge.lib.il.us ------------------------------ From: Melody Allen <melodyan@lori.state.ri.us> To: "pubyac@prairienet.org" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:52:16 CST I feel that I need to add to this discussion that many of the bibliographies posted which are compiled from what PUBYACers have submitted are just a starting place. They are neither comprehensive nor selective. Some of them are more working drafts than finished lists. It is certainly helpful to get suggestions from others, and I would be happy to see this aspect of PUBYAC continue. (Sorry for this underlining and what to me is red type which I can't seem to stop.) Melody Allen Melodyan@lori.state.ri.us ------------------------------ From: "Karen Sonderman" <sonderka@oplin.lib.oh.us> To: "PUBYAC" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Tin cans Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 15:58:14 CST A big thank you goes out to all the many(!) people who emailed me with = suggestions for where we could obtain smooth sided tin cans for our = Kreative Kids candlemaking project! I received a variety of suggestions = (Hershey's Syrup was our favorite as we liked the idea of eating all = that chocolate!). The suggestion that we are going with was empty paint = cans! I called our local Sherwin Williams store and they are giving us = quart paint cans. These will make nice candleholders (no ribs, label = residue or printing on them) and will be of a size that is easier for = the children to work on! Thanks to everyone! Karen Sonderman Taylor Memorial Public Library Cuyahoga Falls, Ohio sonderka@oplin.lib.oh.us ------------------------------ From: LMP_SHANLA@hlc.actx.edu To: pubyac@PRAIRIENET.org Subject: Re: e-mail, once more Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:01:18 CST Our library, in the Panhandle of Texas, went through a lot of grief before we even got the internet. We have to provide at least one filtered internet access and one unfiltered internet access. All children 18 and under have to have a parent/guardian's signature to even have access to the internet and their parent/guardian has to give them the say-so of which access they can have. We also limit our access to one hour at a time and only two hours a day total. In the past, we have had a lot of trouble with chatrooms and that is why we limit access to 2 hours a day. Otherwise, we feel that we do not have the right to restrict people from chatrooms and especially from email. This is only my opinion and not necessarily of my library. Shanla Brookshire lmp_shanla@hlc.actx.edu ------------------------------ From: David Serchay <a013213t@bc.seflin.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: e-mail, once more MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:04:30 CST
On Fri, 10 Dec 1999 SKS6HPS7@aol.com wrote: > > I feel I need to add my 2 cents worth on this topic. At our small public > library, we do allow e-mail [ we discourage the use of chat-rooms, as much as > possible...although they are not banned ]. Last year, we had two young men, > foreign exchange students, who came daily to the library to check their > e-mail. <snip> We have similer situations at my branch. A large group of South African exchange students just came to the area, and every day a bunch come to send e-mail. Same with vacationers. Heck, when I was visiting NYC I did the same thing. Even Epcot at Disneyworld has a place to do it. However, while I have no problems showing people how to get on, I should't be expected to hold thier hands the entire time they're there. I have other patrons who need me. David Serchay Deerfield Beach Library ------------------------------ From: AKnepp9754@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: computers & filters MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:07:47 CST There has been much debate in Michigan lately over filtering the Internet. I am curious how the libraries on this list handle this situation, do you or don't you filter? We are considering purchasing filters for just our children's area and I am not even sure where to begin. I am sure those of you that use filters could recommend some to me. If you could also tell me the pros and cons for the software I would really appreciate it. TIA ***************************************************** Amy Knepp Assistant/Technical Librarian 430 W. Eighth Street Mio, Michigan 48647 TEL: 517-826-3613 FAX: 517-826-5461 **************************************************** ------------------------------ From: "Earl and Kirsten Martindale" <earlmart@bellsouth.net> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Accelerated reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:11:45 CST Elaine, You may want to ask your school to provide your library with a copy of their AR book list. The AR list varies from school to school, even within one system, as they purchase tests for specific books according to their needs. They will, of course, add to their collection as well as deleting some titles over the course of time. You may want to ask them to update their lists once a year. Local schools provide lists in a three-ring binder to the library branch in our area. Each page is in a sheet protector, and the list is usually printed in at least two sort orders: by point value and by title. If a child is at the public library and wants to see if the book is in his/her reading range, s/he can simply check the list by title. If S/he needs to fulfill a reading contract, it's pretty simple to look down the list and choose some books that might be of interest. Not that this was Elaine's question, but some recent discussion about reading programs such as AR prompt me to add my two cents worth: Children are required to read off the list and within their reading range to ensure progress. In our school system, once a child's goal is met, he is free to choose any book he wants. Of course, at the public library, as I tell my students, you can check out ANYTHING your parents say is OK any time. I personally take the whole "AR requirement" issue as an opportunity to promote PUBLIC libraries. Kids who love reading won't need the incentive program and won't have any difficulties reaching their goal, but children who hate to read are, in my experience, highly motivated by such programs. Most schools also offer alternatives to testing for a book that is not included on the AR list. AR is just a tool, but used properly, it seems to make a sizable difference in the amount of reading that takes place in a given student population. Kirsten Martindale Buford, GA
> I work at a public library in a town where the upper elementary > school has bought into Accelerated Reader.... Does anyone know > if and when they update these lists? > > Elaine Loehmann > - ------------------------------ From: Dawn Sardes <dsardes@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: chat room use MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:14:41 CST
I agree that allocation of valuable resources is a valid concern, but in my system, a patron signs on and is guaranteed an hour of computer use time. In the event that we do not get busy, they can sit there and play games or email or chat all day. When we are full, we go to the person on the sign-up sheet who has been on the longest, and ask them to relinquish. After being asked to relinquish, a patron cannot sign back up for another hour. At any rate, regarding this use being an "allocation of valuable resources & "time & access" question. If a patron signs on and is guaranteed a specific time limit, then that resource is being used for that period of "check-out (not unlike a book)," I mean, really, how do I know that when someone checks out the "Collected Works of Shakespeare" that he is reading it? Maybe the leg broke on his coffee table, and he's going to use it to prop it up for three weeks (My niece called me once, frantic to borrow mine. I was so thrilled--until I found out that's why she needed it ;-). Now, a college student may come in the next day and need it, but the book is checked out and unavailable for three weeks while it sits under that broken table. Is it fair? No. Would I prefer to go over to the first guy's house and take the book and give it to the college student? Yes. Do I feel bad when I have to ask a person doing serious research to relinquish a terminal while the guy next to him is playing checkers online? Yes. But once I start making value judgements on a patron's use of ANY resource, I will have to be consistent about it and question every patron about how he is going to use every item circulated. Now I am acting inappropriately. Dawn Sardes Teen Services Librarian I ------------------------------ From: CCullum621@aol.com To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: RE: Limiting circulation MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:18:28 CST I would really like to know what other children's librarians do in their library when there is a rush for a particular subject by a number of children (Ex: American Indians, Explorers, Planets, etc.). Although I can't seem to get teachers to help me discover ahead of time what they would be sending their classes in for I have in the past tried to keep the first or second child coming to the library from wiping us out of all the interested topic books. As soon as I knew what the assignment was the children were limited to 2 books at a time and shown a collection of reference books they could also use in the library. For the most part this has worked in the past but I really get some awful parents who give my desk staff a very hard time about it and insist they want all 8 books NOW. Despite the fact that limited topics are posted on a board where they enter it still gets crazy. I have started wondering if it is worth limiting, especially now that we also have internet available and so many children have internet in their homes now also. BOTTOM LINE: What do you do in your library? Do you ever limit circulation for any reason? Thanks for your input. Carolyn Cullum CCullum621@aol.com ------------------------------ From: LunarHunk@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Index to Collective Biographies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:22:43 CST In a message dated 12/10/99 11:54:06 PM Eastern Standard Time, mschafer@tln.lib.mi.us writes: > Just curious if anyone knows of a source similar to Bowker's "Index to > Collective Biographies for Young Readers" that is current. Bowker > published its 4th ed. in 1988 and apparently has no plans to publish a 5th > ed. What (if anything) are others using? Thanks! While this is probably not the easiest project to get started, it is fairly easy to maintain once you have it established. We maintain our own index of collective biographies that we have. We use an index card for each person and list all of the books he or she is in. We keep the index in an index box. Aaron J. Coutu Reference Assistant Greenville Public Library Greenville, RI 02828 ------------------------------ From: HFL_LISA@stls.org To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: chat room use Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:33:38 CST I am having a problem with this endless discussion from supposedly educated people who keep referring to the sleaze in the chat rooms, the fact that they are personally 'protecting' our children from everything that is out there etc. Where do you get this idea that a 14 sitting down and chatting in a room with another 14 year old is only discussing something you personally find to be morally reprehensible in some way. Maybe they are all chatting about the Backstreet Boys-and so what-is it really any of our business? Most computers are in libraries now as acess to the internet, etc. NOT as private reference sources to only look up material we deem worthy. I do not hunt and find guns a horrifying thing-but I certainly check out plenty of gun manuals, hunting books etc in this rural area-and do it with a smile. I think if you tell a patron they can have 1/2 (or whatever) on the net it is not your call as to how they use it. Otherwise you need to extend that judgement to all the other materials you allow them access to. ------------------------------ From: JEANEAL@CRPL.CEDAR-RAPIDS.LIB.IA.US To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: RE: Query re: Judith Viorst Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:39:08 CST Try Kid Stamps. I had this catalog at my old job, but do not get it anymore. They may even have a web site, but I haven't looked for it. Jeaneal Weeks jeaneal@crpl.cedar-rapids.lib.ia.us ------------------------------ From: Peggy Carter <pcarter@ncsl.dcr.state.nc.us> To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Accelerated Reader Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:42:25 CST The elementary and middle schools in our county started using the Accelerated Reading program several years ago. In response to patron requests, our library undertook an Accelerated Reader collection development project. We received a grant to complete the project. We have copies of all the schools' AR lists available for our patrons, and we have tagged our Accelerated Reader titles with reading level and point value tags. While I agree that there are a number of problems associated with the Accelerated Reader program, I am convinced that overall the program does encourage children to read for enjoyment. It does this by encouraging children who perhaps had little incentive to read outside the classroom to read more books. And by reading more, children begin to understand the magic of good literature. Children can't learn to love books if they don't read. Most children who came to our public library before AR programs were initiated in their schools were already readers. Now we are seeing children (and their parents) who had not previously established a reading habit come to the library. Even with the obvious drawbacks of this type of reading incentive program, I believe the overall effect is worthwhile and positive. Peggy Carter, Youth Services Librarian ------------------------------ From: Ellen Snoeyenbos <ellens@ocln.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Responses regarding Accelerated Reading Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:45:52 CST Here are the responses I got regarding the Accelerated Reader Program. It was GREAT to hear the variety of options and suggestions from you all. Thanks! Ellen Snoeyenbos, Duxbury, MA Dear Ellen-- While it may be true that the schools in your town don't use AR's nonfiction titles, it's not true that there are none! Here our local elementary school's list is full of True Books, and the Seymour Simon NF, etc. AR in general has two sides: while I think that it encourages kids to read books only because they are on the list and are worth so many points, its also true that those lists sometimes lead children to treasures. My ten-year-old and I were having this discussion last week (her fourth-grade teacher used AR extensively; her fifth grade teacher doesn't) and she said "But if it hadn't been worth 20 points, I never would have read Cheaper by the Dozen, and it's one of my *favorite* books!" Hard to say how it balances out... Ann Perrigo, Director Allegan (MI) Public Library espicer@accn.org Yup! I've been frustrated about the AR program for about 7 years now, in two different libraries and two different school systems. We keep AR lists here for the local schools and remind them that we do have the lists here. I don't like AR, both as a librarian AND as a parent, but I can't fight it so I do what I can to live with it and make it work to our advantage. I'm getting the impression that the interest in AR is waning a bit in some of the schools. We haven't had as many requests for "AR" books, but then again maybe it's because I'm not doing something right or because the school libraries now have a lot of AR books. Just my 2 cents. I could go on and on bout AR . . . . Cathy Chesher Adrian Public Library Adrian, Michigan cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us Ellen, Would you please consider either posting responses to the list or at least send them along to me. I am in the middle of a huge knock-down drag out confrontation with librarians (from our system) and school officials about this very topic. It is stated that our mission is to support not provide the curriculum matter for the school. Most schools don't bother although all of the ones involved use the scores from the accelerated reading tests and a large part of the children's reading grade!!! I am flabbergasted. What happened to teaching reading and SSS like you said and someone reading for the sheer joy instead of for a test score? Now the branch librarians want me to purchase all these books (some very marginal indeed) for survival. So they don't have to say no to the patrons... I don't like saying no either... BUT And the board and director don't seem to understand "what the big deal is". I just don't think I need to have multiple copies of yucky books hogging up valuable space and sucking up valuabel resources. Thanks so much for asking these questions and allowing me to vent with you. I am just so frustrated on this topic. I'm looking for answers here and if I get any, I'll write back. Thanks again. Traci Welch Moritz Youth Services Coordinator Putnam County District Library Ottawa, OH 45875 Ellen: Our school is just beginning with the AR program after a great deal of research, particularly on the part of our principal. Our list does contain a number of non-fiction books and our teachers are encouraged to keep up with the new offerings. Our 5th grader teacher was encouraged to have her high readers (7th-9th grade level) continue to read 5th and 6th gr. level books since they are good books that all 5th graders should read, i.e. don't move them up too soon. Hopefully this will give you a different perspective. Maybe you can encourage the schools in your area to include non-fiction since the tests are available. MartiAlt <alt.1@osu.edu I have been associated with a school that has had AC Readers for about five years now. The school librarian has always given me the books that they currently tests for. I agree that it is a little out of date at times but the children are using this and my library a lot more than when we just had SSR. The ACreader does have tests on non-fiction books maybe not as many as it would but with everything there are draw backs. I suggest that you talk with the school media specialist about this and see if you can look over the materials and the tests. Our school has now carried the AC reading program through the 12th grade. The students would like to take tests here during the summer, and I'm going to check into it. Please try working with the schools as we need each other to succeed. Karen Holz easternlibrary@smithville.net ------------------------------ From: "Tamara Butler" <tamara_r_butler@hotmail.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: e-mail, once more Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:51:24 CST I totally agree. Many people cannot afford to have a home computer or a laptop to take on the road. The public library may be their only access to learn how to use e-mail and the Internet. E-mail is a very useful tool and should be available at public libraries that provide Internet access. I was a public library director in a small, undereducated town with a poverty level of over 70%. For many senior citizens and children, coming into the library and learning to use all these wonderful technologies helped them keep from falling so far behind the folks from higher socioeconomic levels. It is wonderful to see a grandmother coming in weekly to read and send e-mail to her grandkids hundreds or thousands of miles away. I found that e-mail was not a problem, and most people respect time limits. I allowed up to one hour per day of computer time whether it was word processing, Internet searching, or e-mail. Chat rooms are where people sometimes got carried away. Tamara Butler ----Original Message Follows---- From: SKS6HPS7@aol.com R I feel I need to add my 2 cents worth on this topic. At our small public library, we do allow e-mail [ we discourage the use of chat-rooms, as much as possible...although they are not banned ]. Last year, we had two young men, foreign exchange students, who came daily to the library to check their e-mail. I thought it was a great method for them to "talk to their friends". ------------------------------ From: Britt A Donohue <bad2@acsu.buffalo.edu> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Music Collection advice needed! MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:53:52 CST Rebecca, I feel that I have to reply to this, simply because it's such a "sticky situation." It's really difficult to choose music for children nowadays, and I personally have a real problem with the parental warning labels. I felt really strongly about what you said regarding your purchasing radio edit versions of music. I think that I understand your reasoning for choosing these, but isn't it really just censorship? Besides compromising the integrity of the music, these edits are simply forced self-censorship (or even worse, record label censorship without consent from the artist.) I think that it's important to realize that censoring music is no different than censoring reading material. Britt A. Donohue School of Information & Library Studies SUNY Buffalo 534 Baldy Hall Mailbox #76 14260-1020 On Fri, 10 Dec 1999, Rebecca Domonkos wrote: > I try to order Teen CD's which are popular AND receive good reviews. I have > Korn and Limp Bizkit in the collection, but I ignored requests for Kid Rock > and Eminem because the critics panned their albums. I don't know if it's > ethical or not, but sometimes I order the radio edit versions of CD's. > > Rebecca Domonkos > Boca Raton Public Library > rebeccadomonkos@hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Mary Jackson <mjackson@neon.nlc.state.ne.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Accelerated reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 16:57:23 CST Hi, A couple of years ago I evaluated this program for a school librarian. The books on the list are generally lesser-known books by award-winning, well-known authors - perhaps because they are not in demand and it is simple to get permission to reprint. But teachers who have heard of the authors feel assured that they are exposing kids to classic literature. In my opinion, it is not a program that a public library who wanted to develop a timely, quality collection would support. In addition to the fact that it limits kids' choices to 'also-ran' books, the mini-test that kids take after reading the book is mundane, detail-oriented and doesn't encourage kids to think of the larger issues that children's literature can foster. I agree that USSR is a more creative program, however, lots of teachers and media specialists really love Accelerated Reading. Mary Jackson Nebraska Library Commission ------------------------------ From: Michael Crosby <mdcrosby@earthlink.net> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: toilet paper rolls MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:01:01 CST This is a strange request but then Children's Librarians are used to strange requests. One of the most beloved materials in storytime crafts is the toilet paper roll. I've been collecting rolls, I've put out the word for rolls, and I've even looked in craft magazines for rolls. Does anyone know of a distributor of toilet rolls? Yours "TP'ed" Michael Crosby La Canada Flintridge Public Library mdcrosby@earthlink.net ------------------------------ From: Katherine Heylman <kheylman@apk.net> To: pubyac <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Collective biography index MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:03:05 CST In response to Mindy Schafer's query about a collective biography index, I'd like to suggest creating a computer program that would enable individual libraries to create their own CB Index. About ten years ago, I made a very crude one for the children's department of a library where I worked as a substitute after my retirement. Using an AppleIIe (! can anyone remember?) I had to keep swapping 4 discs back and forth. The result: you looked up the subject's name, which referred you to a 3-letter code, which you then looked up to get the citation for the book. Actually, it was very handy and much used. By now it is hoplessly out of date, with many of the books missing and no way to update it. I envision a computer program that would allow for quick and simple entries of information, including subject headings. It would also allow for global deletions when the book turns up missing. I've experimented a little with Microsoft Access, but to take full advantage of MS Access's sophistication, the project would need a leader with more computer expertise than I possess. I'd love to work on it, though. Anyone interested? Kay Heylman kheylman@apk.net ------------------------------ From: deb bodner <d_bodner@yahoo.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: RE: Acc Reader MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:05:20 CST I generally 'lurk' and learn quietly, but for some issues it is hard not to respond. I hesitate to add my two cents worth because I am completely opposed to the AR program. So I'll try not to rant. Happily I have not been swamped (yet)by parents demanding AR books although most of the schools in my area subscribe. I have a folder of the lists from the various schools available for parents, but I do not sticker my books. No two schools have the same list and I would end up with an unattractive sticker on the spine of most of my books. I whole heartily agree that great new fiction is being overlooked in favor of an older title worth 5 points. I am further frustrated by the inclusion of 1 or 2 titles in a good series but not all the titles, so the student won't read beyond those listed. (While all of the titles of Sweet Valey are included!) It is also disappointing to see special sections for the AR books in the jobbers catalogs. If there are teachers or media specialists in PUBYAC-land, tell me, whatever happened to reading for it's own enjoyment. deb [the above is strictly a personal opinion] ===== mailto://d_bodner@yahoo.com "Why sometimes I've believed as many as 6 impossible things before breakfast." the white queen in Through the Looking Glass, Lewis Carroll __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Steffens@libcoop.net To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: author references Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:07:13 CST I have heard Margaret Haddix speak at a conference when she recieved an award. She was adressing children's librarians, not children, but based on her presentation and personality, I think she would be great. Susan Steffens CHesterfield Twp. Library Chesterfield, MI steffens@libcoop.net ------------------------------ From: Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: You, too, can do a fun science program MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:09:08 CST I just want to tell all of you about a program we just did at my library. It was a big success. We used the Eyewitness Books and some of the stuff we got in a packet and hosted a science program. First we talked about science and I asked how many and what kind of experiments they had already done. Then we looked at the Eyewitness books and I asked them how they would describe the books to others and how they used the books. Then we did five tables of experiments including easy stuff like tying a string to a spoon and listening to the bell sound it made to excavating chocolate chips from cookies to show how to dig fossils. We made lemon fizz with lemonade and baking soda and volcanoes with vinegar and baking soda plus some food coloring. The kids loved making crystal wine glasses sing and watching what happens when you put celery into colored water. We did alot of other experiments as well. We usually get more girls than guys at our programs but this one was heavily attended by boys and we felt we had done a good job of making some new library lovers! This program was labor-intensive and it helps to have some volunteers but it wasn't expensive; I brought a lot of stuff from home. I hope some of you will try a similar program or e-mail me directly if you have other good ideas. We'll definitey do something like this again. Kim Flores kimf@mail.orion.org ------------------------------ From: Lorie <odonnell@borg.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: MODERATOR ASKS: Stumpers and Bibs /response MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii; x-mac-type="54455854"; Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:12:40 CST Hi everyone, I wasn't going to get into this, as I saw many others respond along my own line of thought. However, with the mention of attachments, I have to put my vote in for NO attachments. Many people cannot open attachments at all, and many others (like me) cannot open attachments produced with certain platforms. Also, I will not open an attachment at all if I do not personally know the place of origin. Call me paranoid, but I have remained virus freee this long, and will take any steps necessary to remain so. Since I am writing, I vote YES to stumpers and bibs as long as proper labeling in the subject line and proper documentation and netiquette are all followed. Thanks for listening! Happy Holidays all. Lorie -- *************** Lorie J. O'Donnell odonnell@borg.com "All that is comes from the mind; it is based on the mind, it is fashioned by the mind. " from The Pali Canon ------------------------------ From: Kim Flores <kimf@mail.orion.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Stumpers MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:14:53 CST When I joined this group I was happy to have a place where I could get help when all else failed. I have seen people address stumpers to the "collective brain" and I love that. I agree that we should do everything in our power to locate an item on our own. The few times I've asked for help were times when I'd tried every possible source in our extensive collection and on the internet. Two of the four times I asked for help, no one else knew the answer (or didn't mail me) either so I don't think I abused the system. Please don't make us give up the chance to ask for help. I will be sure and list the places I've looked from now on. Kim Flores ------------------------------ From: Jeanne Smith <jsmith@cromaine.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: packaged reading lists MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:17:04 CST Just a personal note, my son (who is not a great reader and stresses a lot!) had AR at his junior high last year and had to take the tests. After a difficult time of being sick, etc he remembered he was no where near done with his book and the test was to be taken the next day, my daughter (older and wiser) said "fake it" and he did. He had not read but a few pages of this title, he took the test and passed it with a 9 out of 10. Not only do I not like these reading lists as a professional echoing all the other comments I have read lately on this listserv, but I think it is a waste of time and money as a parent! Jeanne Smith Head of Youth Services Cromaine District Library Hartland, MI jsmith@cromaine.org ------------------------------ From: "Look, Lin" <llook@city.newport-beach.ca.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: Gender Role titles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:19:09 CST Julie Linneman wrote: >> I know that sexism in children's books was a big issue in the late 60's and early 70's, and that we saw many corrections to that in the 80's and 90's (e.g., The Daddies Boat, Daddy Makes the Best Spaghetti). But I am curious if anyone knows what the current spin on this issue is. Isn't it a form of reverse stereotyping to assume that men/women are "supposed" to be in one place or another and then try to find books that show them doing something else? Maybe I've missed something....<< It's possible that the instructors are trying to prove that there is still stereotyping going on in children's books. Several years ago, in another job, we had students (maybe RAs?) coming in for a Children'sLit instructor. They were looking at all the Newbery and Caldecott winners and determining how many had male leads, how many had female, what roles they played, etc. I said that N & C's were not necessarily representative of literature as a whole, and as I recall, the students replied that was true, but because they were representative of the 'most distinguished children's literature,' they were taken as a sampling of the literature trend as a whole. (Wonder if committee decisions would be different if they knew that!) I felt there was a fatal flaw in that logic, but never confronted the instructor (actually, never even saw her in our library). Lin Look llook@city.newport-beach.ca.us ------------------------------ From: "Cathy Chesher" <cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Re: Gender Role titles MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:21:15 CST We get that question in Michigan as well (along with books on divorce and separation) After getting asked this question for about the 5th or 6th time, I asked one of our patrons for more info. This particular patron was taking early childhood classes and seeking National certification for early childhood education. I'm a little fuzzy on the exact details and wording of the certification, though. The gist of it is that it is National certification and that the patron had to get the certification to teach at Head Start. Part of the certification entails developing a portfolio which includes some very specific information. For example, list 10 children's books published within the last 10 years that show nontraditional gender roles. Identify x number of books dealing with divorce and/or separation. As I understand it, those seeking this certification must meet with "someone" and show that person the portfolio. I'm sure there is more to it than that. I didn't go into details with the patron but she did have book that told her what she needed for her portfolio and these were the only 2 "book" components that I have been asked about. Now that I think about it, there may be a question or two about multicultural songs because I have been asked that question frequently without really knowing why. I realize this post doesn't help anyone find these gender role titles, but I thought it might answer questions for those wondering where this is coming from and why this question is being asked across the country. Cathy Chesher Adrian Public Library Adrian, Michigan cchesher@monroe.lib.mi.us ------------------------------ From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Chat rooms MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:24:12 CST Before you read this, please make a promise not to blast me. Our policies were set by the administration, with input from staff at the time. I know this flies in face of ALA recommendations. When we first started having public Internet terminals, our administration, which was very conservative, wanted a policy that included no interactive use allowed - no e-mail, chat, games, telnet, usenet, purchasing, etc. We have since started allowing e-mail use. Several factors influencing this restrictive policy were: We were not the post office or phone center - people couldn't mail letters here, we have a public phone, and people generally do not use it for hours on end. We do not allow patrons to play games such as cards, checkers or chess - if they can't play games on the tables, then virtual reality games are out, too. Chat was banned as much for the time it would supposedly take up - which I don't agree with - as for the perception of the danger that chat rooms have, being a cover for pediophiles and other people with criminal sexual tendencies. Purchasing was banned for several reasons - security, and we are not the mall. We are at the point where we will be adding terminals all over the building which will be both PAC and Internet accessible, and we will not be able to monitor Internet use. So, things will change. In discussions with the reference staff, questions still came up about parent's complaints about unfiltered Internet access, the danger of chat rooms, patrons fighting over access to terminals because others won't share, etc. As you see, this is still something we are struggling with. But still, we go on. I don't know if this helps or not. I would like to see chat allowed, simply because teens are one of the largest groups of users of chat rooms, and I don't like to see them discriminated against, but the possiblity of child stalkers raise fears in everyone. Becky Tatar Unit Head, Periodicals/Audiovisual Aurora Public Library 1 E. Benton Street Aurora, IL 60505 Phone: 630/264-4100 FAX: 630/896-3209 e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us www.aurora.lib.il.us ------------------------------ From: Dawn Sardes <dsardes@clsn1269.cumberland.lib.nc.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Reading Incentive Programs MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:26:16 CST IMHO, I also detest these programs. What ever happened to reading for the pleasure of reading? Kids who attend schools with these programs do not grow into lifelong readers. They read because they're getting something for it, and when the incentive is gone (high schools seldom have the program at that level), they stop. When my daughter was in middle school, they had such a program, and I refused to allow her to partake in it. At home, she was limited to one hour of television viewing a night. I bought the TV Guide, and she had to highlight her two half-hour programs or on 1-hour program the week before. Afterwards, she had nothing to do but read. Now in grade ten, she still loves to read. When we go to the store, the first place she heads is the book section. When I taught, I saw with my own eyes the detrimental effects of these programs on my students' love of reading for its own sake. I heard the phrase, "I hate to read" so much more in schools with programs than in schools without. Proponents state that their circulation stats are up, so that proves the programs work. The tests the kids take are simple, multiple choice, literal-level tests. They require simple rote memorization to "pass." I tested this once, by printing out a number of tests, and telling kids basic facts about a book. They were able to able to pass the tests more often than not. Educators who think the kids are not remembering and sharing the test questions and doing this are out of touch. This program does not measure anything on the higher levels of Bloom's taxonomy, and many children have devised ways to beat the system and gather points wiithout reading a thing. AR is one of the many reasons why I both stopped teaching, & decided to not become a school library media specialist. Dawn Sardes Teen Services Librarian Cumberland County Public Library North Regional Branch Fayetteville, NC 28311 Phone: (910) 822-1998 ext. 231 On Wed, 8 Dec 1999, Ellen Snoeyenbos wrote: > I'm annoyed at having to support these lists with my collection and not > being able to steer folks to the great new fiction and non-fiction that > is out there. Anyone else experience this frustration? > Ellen Snoeyenbos ellens@ocln.org > > ------------------------------ From: "Tatar, Becky" <bltata@aurora.lib.il.us> To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: Index to Collective Biographies MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:28:12 CST I don't know of another title, but for juvenile, young adult, and short adult titles that circulate, we put the list of the people covered in the book in the computer catalog bib record as part of the subject. This way, if someone wants biographical information about Marie Curie, and all of our single biographies are out, we can do a keyword subject search to see if she is included in any collective books on women, women scientists, scientists, etc. With juvenile, YA and short adult collective biographies, there usually aren't that many people included in the book. However, I should also say that this is what we do for sound recordings - we list every song title - pop or classical - in the bib record. Makes looking for "My Blue Heaven" a breeze! Of course, this means a lot more work for your catalogers, and doesn't help with what you have in the collection now, but it is an alternative to an index. It also doesn't help if the book is out of print, or you don't have it. Becky Tatar Unit Head, Periodicals/Audiovisual Aurora Public Library 1 E. Benton Street Aurora, IL 60505 Phone: 630/264-4100 FAX: 630/896-3209 e-mail: bltata@aurora.lib.il.us www.aurora.lib.il.us ------------------------------ From: Maryann Gelato <mgelato@infolink.org> To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: Christian fiction Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:40:50 CST Thanks to everyone for the information about Christian fiction. I t will really help! Thanks again Maryann Gelato Young Adult Librarian West Orange Public Library ------------------------------ From: Mary Vanstone <mvanstone@tln.lib.mi.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: stumper:Fred and Ted MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: TEXT/PLAIN; charset=US-ASCII Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:44:08 CST We had a couple second time parents in here yesterday looking for a series of books that they read with their children about 17 years ago. The main characters are dogs, named Fred and Ted. One is skinny and tall, one short and fat, mentioned colors alot. They want to read them to their new child, but can't find them. the six members of our children's staff are stumped. Does this ring a bell? Sources tried: Best Books for Children, A to Zoo, and did a few key word searches on our catolog, no luck. Even tried Amazon.com which is usually of great help. Saw a Fred the Ted series but it gave no information other than it was out of print. Please respond directly to me. mvanstone@tln.lib.mi.us ------------------------------ From: "Deb B." <debs4jc@yahoo.com> To: elainem9@hotmail.com Subject: Storytime Fingerplay MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:51:24 CST
Here's a fingerplay that I found in Totline. Good Morning, Good Morning How are you today? You've come to the Library To laugh and sing and play Let your hands go clap, clap, clap Let your fingers snap, snap, snap close your eyes and fold your arms Shhhhh! Be very quiet. Roll your hands fast, fast, fast Let your wrists shake, shake, shake close your eyes and fold your arms Shhhhh! Be very quiet. I usually repeat the second and third verses. The "Good Morning" can be changed to "Hello" or "Good Evening". I draw out the roll your hands line to be really slow at first and then suddenly fast. The kids love it! __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Merideth Jenson-Benjamin <mjenson-@lib.az.us> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Acc. Reader Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:56:08 CST
> Another problem we have run across, (not very often thank goodness) is >conflicting reading levels and points. One list has a book listed with one >level and another list has the same book with a different level. This is a problem we have run into also, although not with different lists. We have cases were the publisher information places the book at one reading level, the AR list places it at another, and our software to assess reading level (Microsoft Word) places it at another level. Does it seem to anyone else that the reading levels on the AR lists are kind of arbitrary? Does anybody know how these companies assess reading level? We use the accelerated reading lists to create grade level bibliographies for parents. However this has proven to be problematic as many of the AR books are dated, out of print, limited to certian genrews or just plain boring. Our solution is to go back and recreate the bibliographies using our software to assess reading level (this is a long term project).
Merideth Jenson-Benjamin Young Adult Librarian Glendale (AZ) Public Library mjenson-@glenpub.lib.az.us ------------------------------ From: "Peggy Hagen" <phagen@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us> To: <pubyac@prairienet.org> Subject: RE: fun opener ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 17:58:04 CST Here is one I use with my Toddler group: (Sung to the tune of "Twinkle, Twinkle" Welcome, welcome, everyone, Now you're here we'll have some fun. First we'll clap out hands just so, Then we'll bend and touch our toe. Welcome, welcome, everyone, Now you're here we'll have some fun. I found this somewhere on the web, unfortunately I can't cite my sources. The kids like it, tho, and it is easy for them to learn. Peggy phagen@mcls.rochester.lib.ny.us ------------------------------ From: Catherine Christmann <christmannc@home.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Job Opening MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:00:15 CST Charleston County Public Library Charleston, SC Librarian III/Children's Services - Main Library Full-time position. Assists Children's Services Manager in planning, organizing, and maintaining the main library's children's department; develops and implements a wide variety of children's programs; provides reference and reader's advisory service to children; supervises children's services staff. Other duties as assigned. Evening and weekend work included. Must be computer literate. Must possess excellent communication and interpersonal skills. Must have the stamina for periods of walking, standing, sitting, reaching, bending and stooping. REQUIREMENTS: ALA accredited Mater of Library Science degree with three years of experience in a public library. Knowledge of current trends in library service to children; ability to work with children of varied backgrounds and ages; knowledge of materials for children. Must be self motivated and able to exercise initiative and independent judgment; ability to communicate pleasantly and effectively with public and library staff. Eligible for or hold South Carolina State Library certification. Salary: $32,323.20 annually Pay grade 208 Closing date: Open until position position is filled In order for your application to be considered complete, all applicants must submit an application indicating position applying for and three letters of reference. MLS applicants must include a copy of their college transcripts. All information is submitted to: Jennifer Rodgers, Human Resources Manager 68 Calhoun Street Charleston, SC 29401 Human Resources job line: (843)805-6811 or visit our web site at www.ccpl.org
Cathy Christmann Children's Services Manager christmannc@ccpl.org ------------------------------ From: Naughyde@aol.com To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: Teen Read Week MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:02:17 CST TO: YALSA-L; YALSA-BK; PUBYAC; YA-URBAN; TXYAC Check out the December issue of American Libraries (p27) for a great picture of a teen poetry slam, just one of the many activities held at the Houston (TX) Public Library to celebrate Teen Read Week. If you like what you see and want to be the person to plan next year's Teen Read Week for the Houston Public Library, then consider joining us in our newly created YA Manager position. Join the Houston Public Library which has in just over one year more than doubled the number of cards with library cards, won Texas Library Association's Project of the Year, been awarded $500,000 from the Carnegie Corporation for youth programming, seen dramatic increases in its youth materials budghet, had its after school program named by YALSA as one of the top five in the country and has increased juvenile circulation by 20%. Interested? Want to know more: http://www.hpl.lib.tx.us/youth here's the scoop - ============= Houston Public Library Librarian III (Young Adult Manager) PN# 75907 DESCRIPTION OF DUTIES/ESSENTIAL FUNCTIONS Under the direction of the Manager of the Bibliographic Information Center, directs the Central Library's services to young adults (ages 12 - 18). Major responsibilities include the planning, development, implementation, and evaluation of young adult services at the Central Library. Duties include creation and development of a young adult area, providing tours and library instruction to middle and high school students, and developing bibliographic instruction materials in a variety of formats. Other duties include providing direct reference service, outreach, collection development, and after-school programming. Completes reports and communicates within the system regarding young adult issues. Works with various units of Library Administration (Youth Services, Marketing and Development, Training, etc) to develop quality young adult services. Some evening/weekend work required. WORKING CONDITIONS Ability to communicate effectively orally and in writing. Must be able to use a computer to access/input information. Position requires stooping and bending; light lifting up to 20 pounds. Must be able to move freely throughout the library to file/retrieve library materials. MINIMUM EDUCATIONAL REQUIREMENTS Master's degree in Library Science from an ALA accredited school. MINIMUM EXPERIENCE REQUIREMENTS Three (3) years professional librarian experience are required, including one year of management experience. PREFERENCES Customer/Public service experience; preferably working with youth. Current computer skills including Microsoft Windows 95 and Microsoft Office 97 (Word, Excel and Access). SALARY INFORMATION Factors used in determining the salary offered include the candidate's qualifications as well as the pay rates of other employees in this classification. The minimum to midpoint of this salary range is: $40,300 - $ 46,852 Annually OPENING DATE December 15, 1999 CLOSING DATE Open Until Filled Applications are accepted and must be received by the Human Resources Department during posted opening and closing dates shown, between 9:00 am to 4:30 p.m. Monday through Friday at 611 Walker, Garden Level. First preference will be given to those applications with a resume attached. Successful candidates will be notified of their application status. All new and rehires must pass a pre-employment drug test and are subject to a physical examination and verification of information provided. OUT-OF-TOWN applicants may submit a cover letter and resume to: Patrick Jones Youth Services Coordinator Houston Public Library 500 McKinney Houston, TX 77002 ph. 713/247-1634 fax 713/247-3531 e-mail: pajones@hpl.lib.tx.us Please reference PN# 75907 in your cover letter. An Equal Opportunity Employer ------------------------------ From: Simpson <jsimpson03@snet.net> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: fun opener ideas Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:05:13 CST Elaine- I made up ne opening & closing songs last month because I needed something simple and easy to learn. Both are to the tune of "Twinkle, Twinkle Litte Star": Welcome to our library Storytime for you and me We'll sing songs and have some fun Lots of smiles for everyone. Welcome to our library Storytime for you and me. Now our storytime is through I had fun; hope you did too. I was glad to make a friend Won't you please come back again? Now our storytime is through I had fun; hope you did too.
Martha Simpson, Stratford (CT) Library ------------------------------ From: syosset public <sychild@yahoo.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: fun opener ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:08:00 CST Elaine: This is an opening rhyme I use for many storytimes: Sometimes my hands are at my side, Then behind my back they hide. Sometimes I wiggle my fingers so, Shake them fast, Shake them slow. Sometimes my hands go clap, clap, clap, Then I rest them in my lap. Now they're quiet as can be, Because it's storytime you see.
>Pam Martin Children's Librarian Syosset Public Library Syosset, New York __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ From: Christine Hill <chill@willingboro.org> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: shanachie stumper Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:09:44 CST A patron is looking for information on shanachies, or traditional Irish storytellers. We have checked: 1. Funk and Wagnall's Standard Dictionary of Folklore 2. A Handbook of Irish Folklore by O'Suilleabhain 3. The Folklore of Ireland by O'Sullivan 4. A Treasury of Irish Folklore by Colum An internet search is clogged by Shanachie Records, even using the boolean NOT. A keyword search of amazon.com yields nothing. Thanks. Christine M. Hill Willingboro Public Library One Salem Road Willingboro, NJ 08046 chill@willingboro.org My new book! Robert Ballard: Oceanographer Who Discovered the Titanic, Enslow, 1999 ------------------------------ From: JoAnne Dearin <dearin@noblenet.org> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: STUMPER Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:11:35 CST Hi...had a patron request a book for her husbanc (probably written in the 40's or 50"s???? It is about a penguin-he sends a post card from all his adventures - she thinks his name is Richard? Does this sound familiar to anyone???? Checked our data base, etc and found nothing. THanks in advance. JoAnne Dearin, Children's Librarian Peabody Institute Library, Danvers Massachusetts dearin@noblenet.org North of Boston Library Exchange ------------------------------ From: Patti Lewis <plewis@sonoma.lib.ca.us> To: "'PUBYAC@prairienet.org'" <PUBYAC@prairienet.org> Subject: FW: Popular reading collections for juvenile hall patrons MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:13:58 CST
-----Original Message----- From: Patti Lewis [SMTP:plewis@sonoma.lib.ca.us] Sent: Friday, December 10, 1999 3:27 PM To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Popular reading collections for juvenile hall patrons
We have a dedicated volunteer who is developing a small collection for children incarcerated in our county's juvenile facilities. Age range is 12-18, with a wide variety of reading levels, and boys outnumber girls 8 to 1. We have given her a variety of popular reading lists for teens, web sites, and bibliographies, but we have not found anything that specifically addresses the reading needs of incarcerated youth. She is seeking more information about developing the collection from professional or volunteer librarians working with incarcerated youth. Please send suggestions to me, or directly to her at kmesa@aol.com. thanks! ------------------------------ From: "Sarah Smith" <sesmith5@hotmail.com> To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org Subject: Stumper answered Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:17:03 CST Sorry I haven't responded sooner. For some reason, my e-mail was removed from the listserv. Anyway, thank you to all of the people who responded to my stumper about a series of books about a Jewish family. They are indeed the All of a Kind Family series by Sydney Taylor. Sarah Smith Harrison, Michigan ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com ------------------------------ From: Shannon Metcalfe <nfcl_lib@yahoo.com> To: pubyac@prairienet.org Subject: Re: fun opener ideas MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Date: Mon, 13 Dec 1999 18:19:01 CST
Hi Elaine, To begin Story Hour we sing, to the tune of Row, row, row your boat: Read, read, read with me Come and read with me. Open the pages and open your eyes, Come and read with me. We use appropriate hand motions. I know it sounds simple, but the kids love it.
===== Shannon Metcalfe, Librarian New Florence Community Library New Florence, PA 15944 __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Thousands of Stores. Millions of Products. All in one place. Yahoo! Shopping: http://shopping.yahoo.com ------------------------------ End of PUBYAC Digest 19 *********************** |
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