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From: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

To: "PUBYAC: PUBlic librarians serving Young Adults & Children" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Date: Thu, 17 Feb 2000 00:01:08 CST

Subject: PUBYAC digest 70

PUBYAC Digest 70

Topics covered in this issue include:

1) Re: YS program stats

by Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>

2) Re: young adult non fiction

by RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>

3) Re: young adult non fiction

by VanOpdorp <vanopdor@sls.lib.il.us>

4) Re: sirs discoverer

by Karen Sutherland <ksutherland@bplib.org>

5) Re: after school crowd issues

by Karen Sutherland <ksutherland@bplib.org>

6) Re: Harry Potter programs

by HFL_LISA@stls.org

7) Re: young adult non fiction

by Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>

8) RE: Sports Encyclopedia

by Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>

9) FW: youth at the library

by "Therese (Therese Bigelow)" <therese@kclibrary.org>

10) Re: Does children's reference service demand more speed?

by Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>

11) Re: Harry Potter programs

by Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>

12) BJ Pinchbeck Homework Site?

by "Miriam Neiman" <Neiman@glasct.org>

13) RE: Does children's reference service demand more speed?

by Marie McColley <mccolley@jefferson.lib.co.us>

14) Magazines

by Claire Isaac <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>

15) Summer Reading and the Internet

by "Look, Lin" <llook@city.newport-beach.ca.us>

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From: Jan Wall <janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us>

To: PUBYAC@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: YS program stats

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:09:09 CST

Hello to all -

I'm posting this to the list because I think the question of the number of

YS programs brings up some interesting issues. It's not just programs that

are important when looking at work load - what about time spent on

reference/circ and collection development? It looks to me like Anne is very

busy, but what about these "behind the scene" type duties? How do they get

measured?

But the larger issue I see, and I've been around for a long time (don't ask

me HOW long!), is the issue of program burn-out. I see it in Youth Services

all the time. The sheer number of times we are asked to "perform" can be

daunting over the course of a career. Is it true that YS is "up or out"

type of librarianship? (What about those of us who don't want to do

either?!) And for those of you who have been there a long time, as I have,

how do you sustain that level of (quality) programming over the long-term:

15, 20, 25 or even 30 years?

I'm sorry if I'm diverting Anne's original question. I know there are valid

reasons for asking for those stats, and I've often been curious myself what

is reasonable to be asked to do. (And what is reasonable to ask YOURSELF to

do!) But I would like to hear from people who have been in the profession

long-term.

Please no cliches or sympathy - just an honest discussion. :)

My heart-felt thanks!

Jan Wall

Youth Services Librarian

Latah County Library District

110 South Jefferson Street

Moscow ID 83843

fax: 208-882-5098

janw@norby.latah.lib.id.us

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From: RoseMary Honnold <honnolro@oplin.lib.oh.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: young adult non fiction

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:15:20 CST

Pop culture nonfiction books get a lot of circulation.... video game books, how

to draw graphic novel style characters, musicians and bands, extreme sports. On

the school research side, I try to target biographies and social and health

issues and science fair books, American history, all 100-150 pages or so, so I

am not duplicating what can be found in the children's and adult collections.

Other topics are the paranormal, school and parent and sibling issues, dating,

diseases, poetry, drama... there are books aimed at young adults in almost every

area.

Kathy Eaton wrote:

> Hi. I am charged with developing the young adult area of the library and

> collection development is my first concern. I have been able to find endless

> sources for fiction but have had little success finding non fiction titles.

> If anyone can give specific sources/lists I can go to on the web or in print

> I would be grateful. I am also interested in knowing if there are standard

> subject areas I should concentrate on in NF and essentials I should include.

> Any advice is welcome. You can email directly to eatonkathy@hotmail.com or

> post. Thank you. Kathy Eaton, Grinnell Library

>

> ______________________________________________________

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From: VanOpdorp <vanopdor@sls.lib.il.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: young adult non fiction

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:22:26 CST

Amazon.com has a teens list of popular nonfiction. Things about t.v.

stars, will smith, 'n sync, teenguide to the real world , grossology...

Beth Van Opdorp

Woodridge , IL

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From: Karen Sutherland <ksutherland@bplib.org>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: sirs discoverer

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:28:36 CST

It is a great source for full text articles on children's topics.

Anna Healy wrote:

> hi again,

> our library is currently taking a look at sirs discoverer deluxe on the web

> for future use in in the children's department. i would like to know if

> any other libraries are or have used it and how well it meets their needs.

>

> anna

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From: Karen Sutherland <ksutherland@bplib.org>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: after school crowd issues

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:35:31 CST

Our board has made a rule that no children can be left in the library

after three pm unless they have a parent in the library

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From: HFL_LISA@stls.org

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Harry Potter programs

Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:41:26 CST

Sometimes programming must fall into the end to justify the means catagory.

I have had Pokemon programs here at our small library since August last

year. We added the books and videos to our collection. We had over 400

children and their parents at one program alone! Would I rather it had been

for a book program? Yes...but and it's a big but....it was wonderful to get

that many 8-12 year olds in the library! We gave them information on

other programs, showed off our collection and what services we provide.

Parnets who hadn't been here in years started coming back. Kids don't

whine as much about coming to the library now. It's that place they have

fun and see their friends and find books on snowboarding and look up

stuff on the Internet now. It has become another place they feel welcome.

It is not my place to judge the HArry Potter books-I work in a library-not as a

book critic(I enjoy them by the way as do both my children)> We had an enormously successful HP Day with brooms and the Scholastic play etc. It gets kids

in the door and shows off everything you have to offer-not just the program

of the moment. Isn't that the point of programming-not to just highlight

what we personally think they should read?

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From: Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: young adult non fiction

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:47:46 CST

Kathy,

I started as a YA librarain last summer, but have been doing reference

with teens for the last 6 years. Several subject areas that I think are

essential are information on health (sexuality, puberty, mental illness,

drug abuse, alcoholism etc.), career/college planning information,

readers advisory information and literary criticism, and plenty of

biographies that meet young adult interests. Of course having plenty of

resources for homework needs is also essential. This often takes time to

develop as you become familiar with your community's particular

curriculum.

On Tue, 15 Feb

2000, Kathy Eaton wrote:

> Hi. I am charged with developing the young adult area of the library and

> collection development is my first concern. I have been able to find endless

> sources for fiction but have had little success finding non fiction titles.

> If anyone can give specific sources/lists I can go to on the web or in print

> I would be grateful. I am also interested in knowing if there are standard

> subject areas I should concentrate on in NF and essentials I should include.

> Any advice is welcome. You can email directly to eatonkathy@hotmail.com or

> post. Thank you. Kathy Eaton, Grinnell Library

>

> ______________________________________________________

> Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com

>

Rosalie Olds, Young Adult Librarian

King County Library System

Fairwood Library

Renton, WA

Life's too short to read bad books or drink bad wine!

 

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From: Bonnie Janssen <bjafrm@yahoo.com>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: RE: Sports Encyclopedia

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 21:53:55 CST

Yes that was a good one! I understand that they are

no longer around and there is not an updated version.

Bonnie

--- lori <lmorgan@jefferson.lib.in.us> wrote:

> The Lincoln Library of Sports Champions, was a good

> source. I'm not sure if

> they are still in business. We could use a new

> updated set.

>

> > Anyone out there aware of a good current sports

> > encyclopedia that includes sports figures? Thanks

> > Bonnie Janssen bjanssen@aclibray.org

>

>

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From: "Therese (Therese Bigelow)" <therese@kclibrary.org>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: FW: youth at the library

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:00:24 CST

I have been sharing the postings with some of our branches. We have

discovered the key to being loved by young teens -- computers and have had

both positive and not so positive consequences. Staff in general are very

pro-kid and one of them asked me to post this response

Therese Bigelow

Kansas City Public Library

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From: Rosalie Olds <rolds@kcls.org>

To: PUBYAC <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Re: Does children's reference service demand more speed?

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:06:41 CST

Lu,

I think you are absolutely correct in noting this difference. Usually I

find it to be the result of a due date looming ahead and kids and/or the

adult just wanting it to get done. Adults are often pursuing a personal

interest that is not framed with a deadline.

Rosalie Olds, Young Adult Librarian

King County Library System

Fairwood Library

Renton, WA

Life's too short to read bad books or drink bad wine!

 

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From: Mary Ann Gilpatrick <magilpat@walnet.walla-walla.wa.us>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Re: Harry Potter programs

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:13:15 CST

The kids are gonna read any Pokemon books you buy. If you don't like them,

do not force yourself to think up programs. I have a wonderful school

librarian who did a Harry program which made the front page of our paper,

and I am going to hit her up to replicate it in July (Harry Day. What a good

idea.) What I am doing, besides buying a few Pokemon paperbacks, which are

cheap and will wear out long before the craze is over, is looking for good

material on Japanese Anime, which is not a temporary craze and will be

around.

Mary Ann Gilpatrick

Rita Hunt Smith wrote:

> > Denise I. Matulka wrote:

> >

> > ..... And I am ecstatic of that kids love HP. What I object to

> > is the attention the books get when THEY DON'T NEED ANYMORE!! Other

> > lesser known books need special programs, read-alouds, and parties to

> > introduce kids to them!!

> >

>

> The question then becomes, "why do we do programming?" Do we have

> programs to inflict our values on children or do we provide the

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From: "Miriam Neiman" <Neiman@glasct.org>

To: <PUBYAC@prairienet.org>

Subject: BJ Pinchbeck Homework Site?

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:19:20 CST

In trying to post a recent library newsletter, I encountered a problem accessing BJ Pinchbeck's Homework Helper website (http://www.bjpinchbeck.com/ ). The message is that the server can not be located. Does anyone know whether this is just a temporary problem or if the site has been discontinued? I hope it's not the latter!

Thanks,

Miriam

 

 

The opinions expressed do not necessarily represent those of my employer.

Miriam Neiman

YA/Reference Librarian/Web Page Mistress

Welles-Turner Memorial Library

Glastonbury, CT

http://www.wtmlib.com

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From: Marie McColley <mccolley@jefferson.lib.co.us>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: RE: Does children's reference service demand more speed?

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Lu,

I think you are absolutely right. I believe it is all a part of our rushed

society in general.

I have worked in academic as well as public libraries and I can tell you

that many people stop you just as the search is beginning. I have worked

with children and adults and it does seem worse in the children's

department.

I am not sure what the solution is.

Marie McColley

Temporary Children's Librarian

Jefferson County Public Library

Villa Branch (Colorado)

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From: Claire Isaac <cisaac@rpl.regina.sk.ca>

To: pubyac@prairienet.org

Subject: Magazines

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:32:53 CST

 

My libarary is looking at adding some new magazines to the youth section.

We would like to get children's magazines on Dance, Dinosaurs,

Gymnastics/Figure Sakting, karting.

Also teen magazines on Science-Fiction and Cars.

Does anyone have any suggestions. We have checked local magazine stores

and Katz's "Magazines for Libraries."

Thanks

Claire Isaac

REgina Public Library

Regina, Saskatchewan

 

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From: "Look, Lin" <llook@city.newport-beach.ca.us>

To: "'pubyac@prairienet.org'" <pubyac@prairienet.org>

Subject: Summer Reading and the Internet

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Date: Wed, 16 Feb 2000 22:39:02 CST

My boss is looking for ways to integrate the Internet into our Summer

Reading Program. Has anybody done this in any way, shape or form? The

easiest would be to scan our game board as a print-out, but I think we're

looking for something more. Does anybody do kid reviews, games, etc?

Our summer reading usually has kids following a game board (tchotkes awarded

every 5 books or so) and collecting stickers for reading a book in specified

genres. When they reach the magic number of books read (40? 50? I forget),

we put their first name up on the bulletin board (Maybe their name posted on

web site? Check w/ City Attorney...)

We have about 700 kids sign up at the central library, and about 400 total

in the branches.

I've already printed out Lynn Barnes' posting re: SRP & e-mail (thanks!).

Lin Look

llook@city.newport-beach.ca.us

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